IIT prof's advice to school students dreaming of JEE/NEET

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  • čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
  • In this video I discuss two big mistakes which high school students make regarding:
    1. How they learn mathematics and problem solving
    2. How they go about acquiring language skills
    Both of these are extremely important and are of immense consequence for higher classes, for entrance examinations, and later for college life.
    Website: www.facweb.iitkgp.ac.in/~jeeva...
    GitHub: github.com/jeevanjyoti4
    Twitter: / jeevanjyoti
    Blog: jchakraborty.wordpress.com/
    Disclaimer: I am a faculty member in the Mechanical Engineering Department of IIT Kharagpur. However, the views expressed in this video are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my Department or my Institute.

Komentáře • 673

  • @pyazkachori123
    @pyazkachori123 Před 8 měsíci +1088

    I think in schools, faculties must involve in teaching the first principles properly. There's no alternative to that. Teaching tricks is the worst ever thing one can do.

    • @Madhav2609
      @Madhav2609 Před 8 měsíci +69

      i agree , altho tricks are useful for solving when time is limited but first teacher should explain the question with a long and proper solution then he should aslo show from where that trick is originated

    • @tauseefahmad9253
      @tauseefahmad9253 Před 8 měsíci +8

      It needs alot of time .

    • @Madhav2609
      @Madhav2609 Před 8 měsíci

      @@tauseefahmad9253we have a lot of time , if school teach every thing perfectly then there would be no need for coachings till 10th

    • @Spirit365
      @Spirit365 Před 8 měsíci +18

      yea instead of directctly solving the adv questions 💀💀☠️

    • @Spirit365
      @Spirit365 Před 8 měsíci +20

      ​@@tauseefahmad9253that's why students(nerds) start preparing even before they born

  • @gauravh4337
    @gauravh4337 Před 7 měsíci +405

    There is an issue with the curriculum as well. The level of difficulty changes drastically from class 10 to class 11.
    That forces parents to opt for the early coaching...

  • @marengreen
    @marengreen Před 8 měsíci +463

    Very well said sir
    1. I used to read a lot till class 10th and as a result despite not having prepared for entrance since class 9 I was able to interpret questions better than most of my fellow batchmates enrolled in such coachings prior to me
    2. Till class 11 I had teachers who used to make me strictly mug up methods and I started hating the subject . But in class 12 I got a teacher who used to give most questions for brain storming and thanks to this I started loving the spirit of math again and aced math in advanced

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +91

      There is value in the classical way if doing things.

    • @etcetera1674
      @etcetera1674 Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@Prof_JC classical as in, the natural way of doing things or the convenient way?

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +32

      @@etcetera1674 Classical.

    • @Spirit365
      @Spirit365 Před 8 měsíci +4

      where are you now bro

    • @Gandiya_fad_deb
      @Gandiya_fad_deb Před 8 měsíci +5

      if you aced jee adv , then you must be in some good IIT with a decent branch, may i have the pleasure of knowing 'em ? please.

  • @bbbbbtgggg
    @bbbbbtgggg Před 8 měsíci +137

    I love the fact that now CBSE taking this fact seriously and introduced competency based questions

    • @malathyvasudevan6710
      @malathyvasudevan6710 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Well said.but we have a long way to go.parents have not embraced it properly

  • @ypfilmsypfilms1630
    @ypfilmsypfilms1630 Před 8 měsíci +240

    I'm currently in 10th,now i realize how important are language skills.Actually,i would always face a problem when reading science fiction books to cope up with the language used in books but now thanks for awakening me and i will also work on problem solving skill.Thank you sir 😃😃😃

    • @anonymousownerr
      @anonymousownerr Před 8 měsíci +4

      Physics book is much much harder to read by ncert in 12th 😢 facing that without coaching and dummy student yt student

    • @ypfilmsypfilms1630
      @ypfilmsypfilms1630 Před 8 měsíci +1

      woh tab hota hai jab aap usko ek burden leto ho toh,i believe tht physics and mathematics will never be a burden for me yes it's hard at some points like rotational mechanics and calculus but u must love facing hard things 🙃🙃😕

    • @anonymousownerr
      @anonymousownerr Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ypfilmsypfilms1630 brother, right now you are at the lowest level of basics, come in 11th will get small heart attack 11th physics is much harder than 12th as an experienced student

    • @_souradeepdebnath_
      @_souradeepdebnath_ Před 8 měsíci

      Let's see what happens to this optimism in two years.

    • @ypfilmsypfilms1630
      @ypfilmsypfilms1630 Před 8 měsíci

      @@_souradeepdebnath_ ok

  • @straightforwardchad
    @straightforwardchad Před 8 měsíci +116

    I do regret a bit about how I used to give so many olympiads from early ages (from 1st to 7th) and heck even went to state level for the examinations. The skills that I learned through these examinations were so helpful to me and I had that genuine love/curiosity for the subject but from high school, I only focused on exams and relayed on that rote learning method, and now I'm currently in 11th but luckily our Maths, Chem faculty are superb in making that creative problem-solving skills, bless him! but now I've realized the only skills that matter in competitive exams are the problem-solving skills that I lost fortunately enough there is still time to implement this change. Thank you professor for opening my eyes

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +24

      All the best! You are indeed fortunate to have such great teachers.

    • @straightforwardchad
      @straightforwardchad Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@Prof_JC yes sir!, tysm

    • @Madhav2609
      @Madhav2609 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@straightforwardchad there are no REAL olympiads in class 1 to 7 , ig u are talking about sof ones , those are fake and rely on formula and pattern based questions

    • @straightforwardchad
      @straightforwardchad Před 8 měsíci

      @@Marvel173 local hain and yes im preparing for jee wbu

    • @nubtonoob152
      @nubtonoob152 Před 7 měsíci +3

      exactly bro the point of jee is to understand
      what the hell is this question trying to say
      thats it you just need to understand that

  • @bleedphysics117
    @bleedphysics117 Před 8 měsíci +58

    Respected Sir! This is extremely fundamental. This should be labelled as the zeroth lesson of every subject/coursework available in the realm of academics at any level. Thank you so much Sir for these words. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @miss_anonymous856
    @miss_anonymous856 Před měsícem +3

    Sir, you really gave me a reality check in my academics. I'm fresher in 11th grade and started my syllabus 2 months before only, but now when I'm watching your video after video , I've realised that I was just trying to find a similar pattern in mathematics really forgetting that what the subject fundamentally demands- 'THINKING'. The points you mentioned in your videos are very precisely significant. Being confronted with a new question which demands an altogether new approach and not being able to solve that on the basis of my previous knowledge- or maybe knowledge of 'PATTERN'{usually provided by coaching institutes} , gave a lot of mental stress and self-doubt. Now, I'M REALLY GETTING MY ANSWERS.

  • @dheerajmishra5592
    @dheerajmishra5592 Před 7 měsíci +28

    It is truth ! Many Coaching teachers tell the solution methodology ,but they dont discuss the basics ,using that basics we can solve any problems in the life .!! Thank you Prof for Open Ideas that must spread among all so that Student can start focusing on self realisation of problem solving .

  • @merovingiean
    @merovingiean Před 7 měsíci +32

    Very well said prof. For context I was lucky for math I never memorized anything from childhood and derived almost all the formulas from furst principles. I used to create my own problems and try to solve them myself for fun. This I think developed a lot of independent thinking in me that enables me to solve challenging problems in my career now. The usual excuse is it takes time to solve things by urself without looking at formulas, but this time spent really helps u to learn. For context, I have a PhD in Electrical engineering, have some 200+ granted patents ( US/international) and now working on Autonomous Driving research, that is pretty challenging and u dont find a formula to solve it in any book. We have to build innovation ourselves, and definitely learning problem solving skills at a young helps later in ur career. I didnt study at an IIT but I think I am doing decent. It is ok if you dont get into a great school, but learning good problem solving skills is more important.

    • @apix417
      @apix417 Před 5 měsíci +3

      That's really inspiring! Where did you get your PhD from?

  • @swapnilpandey2270
    @swapnilpandey2270 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Salute to you sir......
    Today I actually understood the meaning of a teacher in IIT.....

  • @harshguptaxg2774
    @harshguptaxg2774 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Well said sir !
    These days the school teachers don't even care if you can do problem solving through various approaches they just give us algorithms to solve and get the answer
    Thankyou for addressing this

  • @TheGuruNetOn
    @TheGuruNetOn Před 7 měsíci +10

    Writing out your thoughts helps one to organise, evaluate and clarify them. Reading comprehension helps in building logic and analytical ability and problem identification and problem statement. It also develops imagination to fill in the missing pieces or identifying assumptions built into problem.
    I've found it extremely useful to use a private wiki to jot down my initial thoughts on a topic and incrementally add, subtract, modify and most importantly clarify my thoughts by finding gaps in my thinking.
    Basically it's like being able to observe and inspect one's thoughts objectively and critically as a third person would. It allows one to extract the core essentials from the incidental.
    Kind of like the Pensieve used by Dumbledore in Harry Potter where he brings out different memories and stirs them and isolates the essential ones from the incidental ones.
    Many of the important works done by cutting edge scientists was done in the form of pen and paper letters for long distance communication. I think this really helped them to focus and concentrate their mental faculties and review their line of thinking/approaches while explaining to others half formed ideas or intuitions or identify missing pieces or faulty reasoning or backtrack to a branch not taken.
    Similar techniques are used in AI to generate decision tree and prune dead end branches and evaluate/backtrack different options/branches in depth wise or breadth wise manner.

  • @user-cl2rv3oq4r
    @user-cl2rv3oq4r Před 8 měsíci +12

    Respected, professor. You said that a person needs to realise if he or she is good enough for jee or neet or not, but there have been innumerable cases where people who were not good enough for a very long time, but they worked hard to reach at the pinnacle in the scientific field. Lately, one of the fields medalists "june huh" is one such example. I believe, everyone can do anything, but i agree with your thoughts on developing the intuition by practicing.

  • @amitpanda777
    @amitpanda777 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Your point is perfect sir.... Due to this language problem i face major problem in class. 11th now as a neet aspirant i trying to solve this.

  • @pratiksaha7699
    @pratiksaha7699 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very well said sir. Really appreciate this video. Loved it. This actually the truth of our society, not from today but from many years.

  • @deepdatta2052
    @deepdatta2052 Před 7 měsíci +26

    Hello sir,
    I am a masters student in physics in IItg... I remember my math tuition teacher used to write a problem on board and asked us to solve it by ourselves ... We used to love trying that question in the beginning mostly we could not but one day suddenly we did solve it on our own... That happiness used to be precious. I used to think of that problem whole day and night.. It used to be great
    Ig students will not understand how to study or learn at a young age by themselves so we need more good teachers who should make them understand
    Thank you

  • @TanmayGhonge
    @TanmayGhonge Před 8 měsíci +92

    I realized what mathematical problem solving intuition meant only in my first year in college - and this was through my room mate. He solved Math problems like I solved Physics problems. Interestingly, he never went to a coaching institute. Explains a lot.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +39

      So great to see you here, Tanmay! We do have such gems in every batch, don't we?! :)

    • @TanmayGhonge
      @TanmayGhonge Před 8 měsíci +13

      Great to see you making genuine and helpful videos, Jeevan Da. I binged watched so many of them :) Great work :)

    • @bhargavsai8014
      @bhargavsai8014 Před 8 měsíci +6

      I can absolutely relate on the intuition part in solving physics problems

  • @agnivaghosh1310
    @agnivaghosh1310 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Respected Sir, I totally agree to whatever you have said. Spoon-feeding during JEE prep was deeply disturbing. Fortunately, I had a few Excellent teachers who encouraged me to approach problems independently. Over the past 2 years in UG at IITG, I truly realised the importance of this, and why critical independent thinking is so important, especially in engineering.

  • @riddhivasu.studies
    @riddhivasu.studies Před měsícem +1

    Thank you so much sir! This is deep, yet subtle.

  • @vickyk2588
    @vickyk2588 Před 4 měsíci

    This was so needed.. my son has been studying on his own and I always pushed him to apply his mind rather than giving him solutions.. sometimes the insecurity of FOMO drives us mad but then there are guys like you who provide a perspective.. thanks
    And your point on language skills is so spot on..Just yesterday as mybson was prepping for his final math exam, he mentioned to me that someone who understands the language better, will be able to solve problems better..

  • @jahnvisingh8015
    @jahnvisingh8015 Před 8 měsíci +43

    Considering the language skills development part, I feel the best way I have learnt it by being the editor of my school magazine and participating in literary activities like debating, or even simply giving a speech. These things are usually ignored as wastage of time, but seriously, with the right efforts can be extremely rewarding. This might just as well be an anecdote, or probably a good communication/ language development strategy, who knows ?

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +4

      It is a very good way to utilize one skills in practice. But then one needs to have a certain threshold quality of skills to become the editor of a school magazine in the first place!

    • @sudhirchandra9790
      @sudhirchandra9790 Před 8 měsíci

      Language is the key to the treasure of knowledge

    • @jeetendrachawla7077
      @jeetendrachawla7077 Před 4 měsíci

      Studying same text again n again is enough!!. You can get familiar with any alien language even without having any relevant knowledge if you study it repeatedly and consciously.
      by 3rd or 4th time you will capture the formulas and pattern of that language. You be able read between lines , figure out patterns and even solve questions effectively without practicing. But that can be little frustrating and require somewhat more dedication.

  • @swastik3423
    @swastik3423 Před 6 měsíci

    Currently in class 9 and going to coaching, didn't ever think of this all. Thank you very much for saving us students in nick of time.......

  • @robinsir
    @robinsir Před 7 měsíci

    Very true Sir. Students often are not even sure on which chapter a particular problem is based on. Thus problem solving is very crucial.

  • @aaravarora3520
    @aaravarora3520 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I highly agree sith you sir, especially with the language skills part. Funny thing, my 9th and 10th went in lockdown and I barely studied anything, 11th and 12th were taken away by dummy school. Luckily, my teachers till 10th were very good that I'm able to do/did almost all the things that u mentioned, Sir. Having good hold over language skills acts like a bridge between one's thoughts and expressing it to the world. Thanks for this video.

  • @ckverma02
    @ckverma02 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You have nailed the problem. Problem solving is a skill that is useful not only in Mathematics, all subjects of learning and the whole life at large. Those who follow your advice will be able be able to negotiate successfully the complex problems that life throws at you. I commend you for voicing these ideas so lucidly. A small supplement to your ideas. Learning to listen / understand and to comprehend fully what is being conveyed to you is very important before anyone venturing a response.

  • @Eduvisionsachin
    @Eduvisionsachin Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you so much sir🙏🙏💯💯💯for exposing reality of coaching industries.

  • @ajay01dimri
    @ajay01dimri Před 8 měsíci +2

    Thank you Sir for this eye opening session 🙏🙏♥️

  • @ahindrabiswas642
    @ahindrabiswas642 Před 8 měsíci +92

    I was lucky enough as my parents did not force me to take tuitions. I have always relied on self study and have always pperformed quite decently in olympiads and IIT Jam.
    I can relate this with your words of wisdom❤❤❤❤

  • @footballnewscr
    @footballnewscr Před 7 měsíci +6

    Proffesor , I am a student just passed class 12th this year and a dropper preparing for JEE . Sometimes I also think of it that, Mathematics is the language developed by humanity which co-relates and defines the working mechanism of nature and the universe (also making a new subject physics ). With its upcoming problems we definitely need solutions , but in schools and tutions i think in most cases we actually learn the given sets of problems and its given sets of solution as you said in this video . here i think the issue is the word GIVEN we directly learn the solution of the question we face and remember it by practicing it to a level instead of thinking about the solution for the question without minding how much time it would take .as many people already solved the question before using there time and came up with varios methods to solve it . i think we should learn the way to solve how we can do the problem properly at school and tution. but nothing we can do since we need to develop to learn many things sooner and also as examinations have a time limit for which we need to cope up with it . therefore we feel difficulty in preparing for examinations like jee and advance since we need to think to how to solve it before remembering the likely solution like in board examination. guide us the proper way using time in mathematics problems pofessor.

  • @2ndaccount433
    @2ndaccount433 Před 8 měsíci

    Couldn't have said it better. Thank you.

  • @Easypeesyy
    @Easypeesyy Před 2 měsíci

    Sir you dont know how much I feel relaxed while watching your videos. It seems real and motivative.

  • @shubhamhatkar8880
    @shubhamhatkar8880 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm happy to be pointed out by these mistakes, I understood the solution of language skills, but I'm still confused about the solution of problem solving.

  • @devendersinghattri4654
    @devendersinghattri4654 Před 7 měsíci

    You are absolutely right! Children are not allowed to think independently. Problem solution entails lot of discussion between child and parent/ teacher- and its here the that the independent thinking is stiffled. Parents have their own constraints and teachers their own. Evrn in most of the cases children are discouraged to do so by parents and teachers alike. I was very poor in maths since beginning. But somehow I could fancy that circumference of a circle should be equal to- the length of the circle converted in to a straight line- but neiyher the teachers told this nor I could muster the courage to ask . After retirement, one day to clear my doubt I took a scale & measured a length of thread equal to 5 cms, joined the thread with fevistick , ruoghly made a circle, using the formula mugged up in school , I found myself to be correct. My son studied Mech. Eng. in UK, he was told by an engineer from the same Univ. that in school days they were never taught the Pythagorean Theoram in the class room , rather they were taken out in the open , shown a tree or a pole and asked to measure a angle and distance. This is the how independent thinking is developed.

  • @sonalilahiri9976
    @sonalilahiri9976 Před 4 měsíci

    I am a language coach and yes you are right that language is critical to the learning process.All subjects are dependent on this learning

  • @rajeshwarirnaik4338
    @rajeshwarirnaik4338 Před 7 měsíci

    Thankyou so much professor for enlightening us😊

  • @foru3400
    @foru3400 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Absolutely agree with you sir , same thing 3idiot movie had also delivered to audience ......The thing you said is absolutely true and this was the most pricking pain of mine throughout my whole school time period, that where they're teaching problem solving, they just throwing solutions and methodology not the mindset and philosophy to think , i always used to think does newton , einstein , etc geniuses also mugged up like this...not at all , bcoz they created these things by observing nature and with their own philosophy and will power.. i think teacher should teach mindset to the children of thinking not the methodology.... But at the end i concluded that most of the teacher in the school (almost more than 95%+) themselves don't know this thing, they also mugged up it from somewhere and transferring it to the next generation... this is one of the biggest reason why we lack in Innovation and solving real world problems.

  • @suyashpandey1058
    @suyashpandey1058 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Blessed to have studied from Amit Gupta sir jee physics
    He helped me tu learn how to study physics rather than learning jee physics.
    The most crucial aspect of him was he anways emphasized on writing first and thinking twice 🎉

    • @nanda1281
      @nanda1281 Před měsícem

      which coaching were you in

  • @divyeshbhattacharya3875
    @divyeshbhattacharya3875 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Thank you so much sir. I recall my introducing puzzles both numerical and non-numericals to my son hoping that sequential thinking will develop. Today he has made some strides forward in maths. Till class 9 he never needed a tutor and has always topped the class year on year. Each word from you resonates so strongly that I found it necessary to write this long. Thank you once again. ❤

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +3

      I must commend you on taking such care for your son's proper education.

  • @saptadeepnath5664
    @saptadeepnath5664 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I can relate to this situation. Up to class 8, we were taught maths to just be a mechanic and to correctly assign correct methodology to the correct question. It was in class 8 that due to the CZcams algorithm I was able to access an expanded world of mathematics. From various foreign college professors to Olympiad guides, I developed better problem-solving skills, ways to decide how to approach a problem.
    In the following year, I was doing the same to Physics and Chemistry, thanks to my dad's friend who then recently became a tuition teacher; unlike in schools where all the emphasis was on mugging up definitions.
    I was an ardent story-based gamer upto class 9th and that helped me enrich my English skills. After that I switched my interest to computer history and programming-debugging and studying from magazines, communicating with people on forums helped.

  • @AmitKumar-er3dx
    @AmitKumar-er3dx Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you sir, for giving guidance to the village student . This type of guidance we don't get from school, coaching or to hear from sinear. Now somehow I am a college student, but please bring this type of guidance video so we can improve our self.

  • @jayantijoshi708
    @jayantijoshi708 Před 7 měsíci

    The way you adressed the problem solving part it was very nice sir
    I can also say that bhannat maths channel does exactly what you wanted a teacher should do.

  • @KoushaniS
    @KoushaniS Před měsícem

    I feel so bad that I discovered you so late sir!And you weren't on this platform when I was in high school😓but no worries because "Jab jaago tabhi savera",I will work on my problem solving skills from now on

  • @prithujsarkar2010
    @prithujsarkar2010 Před 8 měsíci +14

    Well said, I recommend you suggest people to do something called "olympiads" conducted by HBCSE. Although this is popular in case of physics and chemistry (also due to coaching) but for maths it's not as common as the other two subject reason being very few people actually teach it. The problem solving mentality you develop by doing olympiads is insane and will most definitely help you in the future.

    • @madhavgupta5810
      @madhavgupta5810 Před 8 měsíci

      No its popular this time over 90k+ students gave IOQM

    • @prithujsarkar2010
      @prithujsarkar2010 Před 8 měsíci

      @@madhavgupta5810 prmo is ok but studying little bit of actual olympiad math helps more

    • @madhavgupta5810
      @madhavgupta5810 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@prithujsarkar2010what you mean ioqm is fake? Or you mean IMO shortlist problems

    • @Arch009
      @Arch009 Před 7 měsíci

      @@prithujsarkar2010 What is actual? RMO problems? Most people will feel dejected after seeing the RMO paper! It is simply waaay to hard for them!

  • @akashthebot7265
    @akashthebot7265 Před 6 měsíci

    It will help me a lot.thanks for your advice sir❤❤❤

  • @soumendusarkar849
    @soumendusarkar849 Před 5 měsíci

    I am very glad to know about the fact you explain in your video and reading lots of comments in this case . The teacher who changed your view about mathematics in class 10 or 9 was able to do it because of your maturity in mathematics. Teaching anything is such a thing you have to have to follow known to unknown. When you are in 6-8 in standard syllabus are can not allow to make something you advise, when you look on mathematics book in every chapter we see the main aspects is exercise, when we talking about mathematics we say practice maths is the best thing to make you perfect, at the age 10 to 16 if you say anybody to think over a problem over 5 min and then solve it , you must be joking. Because our hormone doesn't support to doing such things for a normal man . That is where a bigger part of people love and respect mathematics but not able to come up to the mark. If you a good student of mathematics you are blessed, and you must be fond of this subject before you enter your adolescence period, through out this period, and fall in love when you are well matured to love it. My dear friend world is a chaos and mind of a man much more complex than it the best way to teach is make your self believe that there is no exact way . May be l am wrong but may be .

  • @IsEqualToNavneet
    @IsEqualToNavneet Před 8 měsíci +10

    From the days of Macaulay, Indians have been trained to be clerks...IITians/IAS may be called glorified clerks...We are trained to serve the Master... Independent thinking, Exploration is simply not an Indian trait, dear professor... There may be few exceptions, but largely we as a nation pursue Security rather than Uncertainty...Most of our Start-ups are copied... We shun and shudder from Failure...Columbus could never have been born in India... I understand your point, but sadly it won't amount much....
    Thanks for all your work🎉... it's always a pleasure to listen to you

  • @shashanksinghdeo9137
    @shashanksinghdeo9137 Před 3 měsíci

    Sir thanks for the vast knowledge you gave, these habits will surely help to ease my 10+2 .. Thank you sir

  • @aratipatil2096
    @aratipatil2096 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree with you. I really appreciate in future also if you share your advice that will really help parents like me. Thank you once again.

  • @physics20246
    @physics20246 Před 7 měsíci

    Great awareness, you have told all hidden facts in the failure of the system .

  • @profamitgupta
    @profamitgupta Před 8 měsíci +39

    Good advise. I have had this perpetual complaint that students nowadays do not spend any time with a course/subject book. Unless that level of devotion is there, learning remains very shallow and superficial. I also ask students to read fiction/non-fiction to also develop reading habits and understand how sentences are constructed. Again, this advise falls on deaf ears.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +7

      Only few people truly appreciate the powers that reading confers on them. If it could somehow be demonstrated with irrefutable evidence, we wouldn't need to keep advising them.

    • @ireneisahuman
      @ireneisahuman Před 7 měsíci

      ​true
      really understanding it is quite literally the best thing that could possibly happen to one

  • @shivanikumbhavdekar3154
    @shivanikumbhavdekar3154 Před 4 měsíci

    You are absolutely right Sir.

  • @adityanikam1786
    @adityanikam1786 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yes sir our teachers vikas gupta sir build a out of box thinking we are able to a problem by 2 -3 method

  • @darpan5552
    @darpan5552 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I left tuition in 7th and never went again
    i never regret and in future also not

  • @Mr_ST_720
    @Mr_ST_720 Před 4 měsíci

    Big effort by you . Thanks very much..

  • @btbbbiologythebrainbuffer6012

    Important video of this era of coaching institute ❤🎉🎉❤❤🎉

  • @Deshbhakt7
    @Deshbhakt7 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Sorry sir main aisa keh raha hoon, jhoonth nahi bol raha but ekdum similar aapke jaisa hi lagbhag-lagbhag mera bhi thought tha, aaj aapke video ko dekhne ke baad mujhe thodi aur clearity ho gayi. A huge thanks to you sir, aaj mujhe lag raha hai ki shaayad meri bhi thinking ability kaafi achchhi hai. Agar bhavishya me mujhe kabhi Indian education system ko badalne ka mauka mila to main aap jaise professors ki salaah jaroor loonga and mera end goal isi ko aquire karna hai and isi ke liye main jee ki preparation kar raha hoon.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Thank you. I wish you all the very best in this noble aspiration. You will have to be really in a great position yourself in order to able to improve the system.

    • @Deshbhakt7
      @Deshbhakt7 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@Prof_JCsir wo mujhe pataa hai ki ise kaise karna hai bas aapki blessings chaahiye.

  • @kartikmahajan4405
    @kartikmahajan4405 Před 7 měsíci

    exceptionally good, thanks a lot for this.

  • @surajitsen5005
    @surajitsen5005 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent Sir especially the second part about language skills

  • @jebakumari2814
    @jebakumari2814 Před 7 měsíci

    You are very correct sir.developing originality rather than practising

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 7 měsíci

      Actually, in a subsequent video, I have emphasized the importance of practice. Originality is important but that is at a higher level which cannot be reached without first practising. And, this is backed by research by cognitive scientists.

  • @RohitKumar-bp7bb
    @RohitKumar-bp7bb Před 7 měsíci

    Great efforts to explain each and every thing very politely and clearly..!!

  • @TheShubShow
    @TheShubShow Před 8 měsíci +4

    I am currently in 11th and i agree with all of your points ❤

  • @denialyt1953
    @denialyt1953 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Literally sir u rock it 💪💪❤

  • @Rahul_razz13
    @Rahul_razz13 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yeah i perfectly agree with your concern school makes our base that would be help to solve some basic leval q ❤❤❤

  • @us005
    @us005 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Sir, you really saved me.. I've a habit of reading even a small box item from my textbook of Physics or any other subject some times i thought that it is useless cause everyone said solve questions as many as you can and not everyone focuses on the every text of ncert which i thought is good to read. And I really don't like the competative environment offered by coaching institutes.
    Therefore, I've avoided coachings and tuitions since my 7th class one of region was corona. Now, I really don't want to go to coachings as they only focuses on question solving abilities and exams which I can not handle😢

  • @abdulraqeeb462
    @abdulraqeeb462 Před měsícem

    Very thought provoking, insight full, podcast really an eye-opener.You come across very sincere person who wants to pass on your knowledge from your personal experience which is invaluable.May god bless you

  • @Indian-forever-always
    @Indian-forever-always Před měsícem +1

    Thank you very much sir

  • @jitendramisra722
    @jitendramisra722 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Self study is very important and provides imagination and language skills help a lot.

  • @saketkumar5457
    @saketkumar5457 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I scored decently in class 10th and used to think I am good at maths only to realise later that at root level I used to just mug up(or say practice to hide it) the entire Book and memorizing the approach of problems and proofs I didn't understand. I never questioned my approach cuz it was working for me, I wish the school would have taken exams on more of a conceptual approach like they do in 11th and 12th.

  • @sanjaykmishraprobingphysic5796

    Good books and skilful teachers, both are rare simultaneously.

  • @EdFalco-Academy
    @EdFalco-Academy Před 4 měsíci

    Exactly problem solving isn't about just knowing 3-4 ways of doing it.

  • @Iam__Kaustav
    @Iam__Kaustav Před 8 měsíci +7

    Thank you sir for making this video on my request. It's really helpful for students like me who are dreaming of JEE.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +4

      It's my pleasure. Thank you for asking in the first place.

  • @subhambasuroychowdhury9698
    @subhambasuroychowdhury9698 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very good video, on teaching students how to learn....

  • @yashasgamer6599
    @yashasgamer6599 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very well articulated....tution or coaching classes now a days teaches different kinds of format of questions....and students simply learn these formats...so there is no development of problem solving skills....probably because of this reason the quality of IIT graduates is not the same that we used to get 40 years ago...
    No offence to current gener of IIT..

  • @rakeshsingh5875
    @rakeshsingh5875 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Bitter truth sir told by you thanks!!!!

  • @parthsavyasachi9348
    @parthsavyasachi9348 Před 6 měsíci

    Thats so true. Luckily for me i was always problem solving guy. The main learning came when i was solving irodov for physics and we had no solutions available that time

  • @jkmitter550
    @jkmitter550 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very well analyzed and advice sir :-). Most schools in India are regimented through syllabus and never encourage students to think out of the box. Most students in India are wired to learn how to commit and then vomit (memorize and then spill) in exams, therefore no chance of actually learning and problem solving methods. I am generalizing of course, there are exceptions. Has anyone ever wonder that out of 1.3 billion people in India, why there are only handful of Nobel prize winners???

  • @PRADHUMAwa
    @PRADHUMAwa Před 6 měsíci

    Sir first time i realizw that i am not wasting time in using phone Before meet you i was listen song but today lisyening your speech is our Passion 😊😊😊❤❤

  • @nedakhan4790
    @nedakhan4790 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You are right sir right now I'm in class 10th and i do go to maths tution not because i want but my parents want and all i do there is to sit by my self and solve by my own i told them that i don't need a tution for maths but they Just don't listen. This have become some sort of ritual to send your child to coching and tution even if they don't need them

  • @sayori-b
    @sayori-b Před 7 měsíci +1

    My maths tutor during high school would always explain the concepts and ask us to solve all the problems by ourselves with all that were taught. He wouldn't show us how to approach a single problem unless we got stuck doing one. Even he asked us to not go through the given example problems as well. I haven't landed in IITs or NITs due to my lack of motivation and laziness but atleast I am grateful to him for teaching me how to approach problems without the mindset of looking up for solutions.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 7 měsíci +1

      You were fortunate in having a teacher who valued independent problem solving.

  • @Question-Research-wj5wr
    @Question-Research-wj5wr Před 7 měsíci +3

    RESPECT TO YOUR HARDWORK AND CONTRIBUTION ❤

  • @dhruvii111
    @dhruvii111 Před 5 měsíci

    What an informative video Prof JC! It was a completely different perspective. I'm a student of grade 10 and going to opt for pcm in grade 11. I haven't been a bright student in mathematics ever since my childhood despite continuous efforts in understanding the subject. I'm still somehow managing to score decent marks by mugging up different methods and just cramming the problem solving procedures as I thought this was the only way I could ace the subject, by practicing! I realised that my statement was wrong! I'm glad I got to come across such an ideology. But I'm afraid that it's too late to begin from a fresh start with a holistic approach towards the subject! I faced math fear, & since it's still not completely gone, it makes me realise the importance of real problem solving skills! Please guide me how can I not fall off the cliff in grade 11 and actually excel in Maths? what steps do I have to take? I'm willing to put the efforts but please enlighten me?

  • @minectaft5905
    @minectaft5905 Před 6 měsíci

    ALL the time ,l from the time I remember till June of class 10th all I was doing was fulfilling dreams of other - mugging up things like formulae, stories and practicing those same question time and again. Running behind marks as the school education system wanted me to do . Hence I almost completely lost interest in studies. Thanks to you sir for igniting the curiosity and love towards actual learning with the right approach. I have come back on track now.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 6 měsíci

      I wish you all the best in this new way of studying.

  • @sagulucky7245
    @sagulucky7245 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I believe even overthinking was also a key for me to acquiring these language skills 😐

  • @btw_imohit.1
    @btw_imohit.1 Před 8 měsíci +1

    In my class 10th an senior class math teacher Started to taight us after half yearly believe me that was the reason we all scored good in maths and some just even passed that might have failed .
    He said that he dont care about the copy maintaining and he taught the whole concept first and then the examples and then we were the one doing questions alongside.Thats the reason i chose maths in 11th as if he wasnt there we were dead in maths . Also every once in a week when we said sir we dont want to study he said lets talk then, we were talking about our study and he was the one giving us higher knowledge and different strategies or planning how to be disciplined etc.

  • @happygolucky9595
    @happygolucky9595 Před 7 měsíci

    Absolutely great 🙏🏼

  • @theworldofphysics2709
    @theworldofphysics2709 Před 3 měsíci

    I never had tution till class 12 . Self taught. Though I was from one of the best school in Nation . But believe me sir your approach of problem solving and methodologies was unconsciously followed by me. Thanks for the beautiful message.🙏

  • @Mangohawk124
    @Mangohawk124 Před 8 měsíci

    I though there is something that gives me my kast hope for a week...
    ❤now its saved❤❤❤

  • @user-os9jx9qp4k
    @user-os9jx9qp4k Před 5 měsíci

    I am currently in 11th and i recently realised the importance of these skills

  • @anushkaranigupta1
    @anushkaranigupta1 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I am currently in class 12th, will be having my pre boards most likely in the last week of November, practicals from January 1st and board exams from February 15th. And i mentioned all that unnecessary information because I had to acknowledge the fact that how unprepared I am at the moment. I came across your video don't know how though I'm thankful that I did, and i realised one thing that everything you said about a student being in the phase from 6th to 10th standard, everything, I felt holds true for me. At this point I am not even sure if whatever I went through, whatever happened to me, whatever I did to myself is regrettable. One thing I'd like to add is that I never took proper tutions or coachings till I was in 10th grade. I had to take coaching for 2 months before my 10th board exams because I was not so good at math but I wanted a good report card so that my family might give me some value or consideration that yeah she isn't all dumb, we could invest in her. I secured an aggregate of 92% overall from cbse board, and I'm mentioning cbse so that one can understand that it's not that big of a deal.
    I have the same typical aspirant story where till 10th you're bright, good at sports, performing arts, extra curriculars as well as studies and then you're introduced to this competitive exam world mainly JEE/NEET. I cannot say that I was forced into it by anyone, in my case there was no peer pressure, no family pressure nothing of that sort. So I went for it, opted for PCB joined coaching, did offline in 11th and hell it was hectic. In 12th i switched to online so that I'm able to save some time and put that time into more useful things. Due to not having the proper problem solving and mathematical abilities, I became a flunking student in both my 11th & 12th. I've heard "when you're trying to do something you do not care about, you're going to be stressed" but the thing is that in my case I was sure that I wanted to do this, and yet why do i doubt myself? The frequency of these doubts have only increased with time, now I get these thoughts too much, thoughts like "am i in the wrong place"? Or "is this even made for me"?
    As a person, it completely changed me because I am able to analyse the kind of person I was until this NEET exam was introduced to me. I became introverted, silent, sometimes too chaotic on the inside, anti-social and so on. Now, these changes are both positive and negative. I try to perceive them in a positive way. So anyways, this video was a good one I mean i could relate to almost everything you discussed about. However, now that I'm able to understand the things you said, it's too late and I can only imagine a 6th grade student, if was shown this video would understand anything you're talking about at all. I can only say this on my behalf, i would not be able to understand the things or relate to the things you talked about in this video when i was in 6th standard or even 7th/8th. So my point is that by the time I'm ready to comprehend these issues, I've already been a part of the issues.

    • @anushkaranigupta1
      @anushkaranigupta1 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Marvel173 I don't find myself qualified enough to advise aspirants because I myself am one at the moment, but alright. There could be two scenarios, 1st that you're financially able that your parents can afford offline coaching and 2nd is that you cannot. So if you can, join Allen or Akaash (tbh it's not all coaching, it's your habits that'll decide how your preparation is gonna be and that'll ultimately decide your results). But if you want to go for online, there are various options. Few I'd go for are NEETprep, eSaral, maybe PW. Allen digital is good too.

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think I can understand what you are trying to say here. My suggestion is that to not being despondent. I am sure there are parts of the science syllabus which you feel comfortable with, perhaps even feel that you have a certain strength in. Try to identify those. Perhaps you can think seriously about going into BSc into that subject ... and slowly specialize in your area of strength. That would be a more fruitful approach rather than arbitrarily joining some professional degree course and not doing well.

    • @anushkaranigupta1
      @anushkaranigupta1 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Prof_JC Thank you for the suggestion, sir. 🙇🏻‍♀️

  • @topper8228
    @topper8228 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you sir for this usefull video
    Sir please make video on how to improve our problem solving skills

  • @pawankumarsahu1527
    @pawankumarsahu1527 Před 7 měsíci

    Cab maths and problem solving skills be improved in later stages of life. I really miss my Maths and Statistics classes and I’m scores the highest in Business Mathematics during my undergraduate course.

  • @shivay8026
    @shivay8026 Před 8 měsíci

    Be simple precise and to the point

  • @rajatshuvrasaha8788
    @rajatshuvrasaha8788 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well said, the distinction is apparent in iiser and niser, where research is the main scope. There is a quantum leap in the standard of boards/coaching and the one needed for original thinking.

    • @pkgamer910
      @pkgamer910 Před 8 měsíci +1

      elaborate

    • @i....-__o__-....i
      @i....-__o__-....i Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@pkgamer910looks like someone didn't focus on language skills in school 😂😂

    • @pkgamer910
      @pkgamer910 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@i....-__o__-....i I was from a government school till 10th why r u making fun of me

  • @bharathchandrapanasa7997
    @bharathchandrapanasa7997 Před 6 měsíci

    Completely agreed sir!

  • @Jasmita-8
    @Jasmita-8 Před 8 měsíci

    not me having stopped studying during covid so i had to discover problem solving during grade 9 . but i think problem solving is much easily developed when doing physics cause of sheer amount of imagination in it . where as imagination in maths is rather tough so using physics as a stepping stone is gd .

  • @nitroso001
    @nitroso001 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Thanks to my school ,I was never forced to learn so called welldefined answers from my class notebook.They very well accepted the answers written by own language skills and vocabulary.And did not hesitate to give marks for my answers. Thank You sir .

    • @Prof_JC
      @Prof_JC  Před 8 měsíci +1

      You are indeed fortunate to go to such a great school and have such great teachers. It is a privilege.

  • @Forthelove_of_chemistry
    @Forthelove_of_chemistry Před 5 měsíci

    Hi sir
    I am preparing for JEE in Kota, this is my drop year. The teachers who teach the lessons here focus on solving very short M&O fixed pattern questions.
    I have no interest in this type of education.
    This year I am preparing for graduation and in the future I want to become a professor like H.C Verma sir.
    I am fortunate that with the blessings of Mother Saraswati, I understand the facts by reading books and there are people like you who are inspiring students to shy away from book reading.
    You inspired me.
    thank you sir 🙏

  • @sreejaupadhyaya7159
    @sreejaupadhyaya7159 Před 8 měsíci

    You are very right sir...

  • @mathmagic199
    @mathmagic199 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm currently studying MSC in mathematics and when i was in my bsc i faced this same difficulty regarding problem solving and similar kind of circumstances happened in my case adress by the professor . The thinking ability to solve a particular problem is very important and it then happen when you done this by your own.