Funny thing, I watched your video a little while ago. Today I went to a gun show and picked up this same model but with a 32 S&W conversion in it. Best $170 I've spent in a long time.
I wish the video had shown the bullet placement on target as well as the distance recommended for this caliber. Informative as always and i enjoy your expertise with firearms. Thank you.
Hi Mike, I recently purchased both the Uberti 1849 and 1849 Wells Fargo. Both guns needed work to be reliable. Both are terrible cap suckers. However, after doing some work on them, I'm now very happy. I bought Taylor 32 S&W conversion cylinders for them. The Wells Fargo produces 1/2" 32 S&W groups from 7yds with a two hand hold. While not the most powerful handguns I own, they are the cutest by far. Thank you for your excellent reviews. Regards, Richard
After .32 S&W dried up in my home town. I am having to relearn how to shoot my pocket revolver in it original configuration. I love these lil guys. There fun once you tune them up. Also thank you for the FFFF idea. It works much better then the FFF loads I have been using. I am going to miss having .32S&W on hand though. Made quick trips the range easer.
I've never fired one of Sam Colt's pocket revolvers. I use a of Remington model 1863. I've been thinking about making some of the combustibles for it. As they would hasten the charging of the chambers. Anyways, another great video. I always enjoy watching and learning from them. You act like you've fired black powder weapons a time or two, lol.
I prefer Uberti. The 1860 Army is also a fine choice. I personally prefer it to the Navy, but I think the Navy in .36 caliber is a good gun to start with.
Taylor just got my FFL, of course they were out of what I really wanted a 5-1/2" blued 1858 Rem but I did get a 1849 I however went with the loading lever model just had a better look for me, also got the Runnin' Iron Deluxe 3-1/2" 45 LC blued on the way love the short barred 45 LC have a Colt SAA 4-3/4", and a conversion cylinder for my Ruger Old Army 5-1/2" Thanks for the video the last 4 shots fired were really cool!
They make the 1849 pocket without the loading lever.. I didn't know that. I was thinking this was the baby dragoon 1848. But it doesn't have the square trigger guard. I learned something today. Thanks...good video,
Joe Baker he used a colt 1849 in outlaw Josey Wales, and Remington model 1863 in The Pale Rider. However all his guns were converted to fire blank cartridges.
Yeah Eastwood and his costars always used converted pistols. They were supposedly meant to be powder pistols in Josey Wales as it takes place during the civil war and also Lee Van Cleef had a percussion Remington in Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. They were converted guns for the actual shooting then swapped back to percussion for scenes when they were not actually shooting. Only the new True Grit remake and a couple other modern westerns use actual black powder guns. The series Hell on Wheels is one that uses real black powder guns.
Just so you are aware Mr. Beliveau, black powder does not require oxygen between the grains of powder. Blackpowder has potassium nitrate in it to provide oxygen. It still combusts in an oxygen starved environment. The grain size has more to do with the surface area of the grains of powder than the air pockets between them.
Mike - I'm a subscriber and I enjoy your videos, and appreciate all the time and effort that goes into making them. I hope this doesn't come off as being overly critical - it's your obsession with "five beans in the wheel" (or in this case 4 beans). If you were going to carry the thing, I see the point - I get it. However if all you're going to do is load it and walk over to the firing line and shoot it you are NOT being unsafe. Seriously, I appreciate you Mike. Take care and God bless.
#0 (.320) lead buckshot balls work perfectly in these little .31 cap & ball handguns - much more economical and easier to get a hold of than .36 or .44 caliber balls!
Sir, you are the only other person I know that recommends 4F powder for small pistol calibers…. I personally think this is the reason uninformed shooters are disappointed with the small cap and ball revolvers because they are using the wrong powder.
I've only fired black powder once and that was a flintlock but I'm very interested in cap and ball. My understanding is that you should rotate the pistol to vertical as you cock it to let the fired cap fall free. Also, black powder doesn't need oxygen around it to burn, it needs space for the flame front to propagate and smaller grain size = greater surface area for the flame to propagate onto hence faster burning.
Pointing the revolver up to cock it, won't hurt, but anybody who did that in a gunfight would be fertilizer in short order. You are right about smaller grained powders burning faster due to more surface area. That works up to a point. the smaller grains pack tighter, which slows the progress of the flame through the load column. But, for the small charges used in revolvers, that isn't an issue.
I use 2F in my Dragoon and my Walker, but never thought about using it in .45 Colt. I'm going to try it in my next batch of reloads and see how it does at softening the recoil of my '58 Remington with a conversion cylinder.
What diameter ball are you using in your little 31? Picked up a lightly used San Marco repro Baby Dragoon today. I`m guessing a ball diameter of somewhere between .320 and .330 would give a good seal.
This little pocket model. I have two of them (Sam Houston gave me the one Colt 'sent' him. He was pissed at Sam). Anyway, I have made for myself a wonderful work around to the no lever bisiness. I can load it without removing the barrel. I resize the elongated balls so that I can press the balls into the chamber with heavy thumb pressure. I then run a formed oak dowel rammer down the bore and seat the balls firmly. I then oil the loaded balls. It fires with v e r y adequate force, the other balls do not dislodge from recoil and there is no communication of fire between chambers causing multiple discharges.
THANKS MIKE. One of my favorites. A question for you. I've been told that 00 buckshot is an acceptable replacement for for .31balls if you find yourself low on ammo? ;-) Oh and a second question. Does the Howell conversion for the Remington .31 have the safety notch?
Some have remarked about not loading all the chambers. One observation is to load all, but leave one uncapped. Not good! Cap and powder blast can enter and chain fire the sucker.
The Lyman 1st edition black powder manual has 4f loads for these small caliber weapons.I have used the data for years.The "only use 4f for priming" thing is a modern lawyer junk science you will shoot your eye out mentality.The 31/32 caliber guns are a hoot!
Which revolver would you recommend for a first cap and ball? I'm getting interested in them since a friend asked me to clean his Tranter-Adams 1851 self-cocking revolver
Mike, you seem to fight these replicas a lot to get them to shoot smoothly through multiple shots. Is this chiefly because the workmanship is not as "finished" as the originals?
Hey Mike so I have one more questionsorry to always be posting questions in your comments sections but you are the most knowledgeable that I've seen in answering questions that I can't find online . I just purchased another one of these Wells Fargo models for my girlfriend because she took a really big liking to mine after she seen it and I would like to put custom grips on it for her before I give it what model grips would fit these 18-49 is because searching grips for 18-49 pocket revolver yields nothing
@@duelist1954 okay sir thank you very much I'm sure you haven't seen the last of me I'll be trolling you're video on the Capt Schaeffer .36 I just purchased one and I trust you're opinion more than any other
Can you set the hammer between the cylinder cones as on the '51 Navy or are we compelled to leave a chamber empty? And thanks for responding to my other query.That's quite a charge coming out of that little pistol!
I have always wanted to know how powerful is a 31 black powder revolver, could have the same stopping power than a "modern" 32 acp? Or maybe closer than a 22lr? In any case I love muzzle loaders.
would the .31 mini ball be accurate out of this? I bought them for my Crockett rifle and found the round ball to be a choice for squirrels. I was thinking of getting one of these as a companion sidearm so I don't have to carry different ammo
I am in between buying a pistol with a loading lever or one without. I am not sure how easy it is to load without the lever. I watched the video but unfortunately, someone fired a shot just as you mentioned what tool you used to load the chamber. Can you let me know how you did it?
Question I have the same gun I am going to follow you're practice to using 4f powder to get a bit more velocity is the 12 grains you put in about max of what can go in or can I squeeze more in? Also could 777 be another solution for obtaining as much velocity as possible?
Hey Mike I have a brass CVA 1851 Wells Fargo and I have a problem with the caps not clearing or being tight against the frame. Does it have incorrect nipples or is it something common with the CVA?
I have an original to 1861 Colt pocket revolver. I would like to have it preserved and a couple repairs done. Probably not looking to fire it so much as just have it not broken. It's been in the family since new. Can you recommend a gunsmith able to do the work?
Isn't there a safety pin protrusion on the back of the cylinder on these so that you can safely load all 5 cylinders and keep the hammer from moving to a live cylinder? My 1851 and 1860 Colt replicas have this safety feature. Thanks.
What would you think about using 4F in a .36 1851 navy, and a Patterson? I have been using 3F at 25-30 grains but I am not really impressed with the velocities.
Do you have any other ideas for something that will give it a little more speed? My pistols are shooting at the same speed as a .44 but with less than weight. The club I shoot with shoots steel and it has to make an audible ring to count as a hit, but I have found that my 36 will not ring many of the targets. (10-50 yards)
Triple Seven 3F will give you more "ooomph" per grain than basic black powder. It may give you more velocity thereby making the steel "ring" a little louder.
deciding between the 1848 baby dragoon and the 1849 pocket model. not counting the loading lever which would you pick and why? are the cylinder stops on the 1848 bad? thanks.
this may sound like a dumb question, but if people carried these everyday how did they keep the balls from falling out. I have no experience but I would think that riding a horse or whatever they did to get around, the ball would shake loose from the cylinder
+Paul D The bullets used here are slightly oversized compared to the chambers of the cylinder. They have to be _wedged_ inside when loading, which creates a seal tight enough to prevent them from shaking loose. (On his other videos you can see a thin ring of lead stripped away from the ball by this process.) =)
Paul D they put an over sized ball in them say you have a 44cal you would put a .454 ball to keep it from coming out it makes it where the powder don't get wet from rain as well
Im confused, you said larger powder like 3 and 2F burn quicker and make more power, but chose 4F because it gave more power in this littler gun. Wouldn't 2F give more power per space?
+Chris Collins But then you wouldn't have room for that much powder due to the larger size of the granulations. You need a balance between the size of the granulations themselves and the space around them that the flame will travel through.
Doesn't one of the lugs on back of the cylinder have a notch you can rest the hammer down on, and it locks it in place? That way you can still load 5 but not have the hammer on a live cap. Maybe that was only introduced in the later version with loading lever.
Can you tell me what size round balls you were using? I have an Uberti 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver with the loading lever. I have a .319 Lee round ball mold and these seems slightly too small. No ring of lead was shaved off. It still seems like they made a semi-decent seal. They would not roll right out or anything like that. Thanks! Love the videos!
I just purchased one of these and the cylinder over rotates a lot of the time. What is the issue I'm experiencing and how do I fix it or should I just send it back?
Kristopher Myers It is exactly as you would think. The hand is soft, so it won't damage the cylinder ratchets, just use a file and take a little off the top of the hand, while maintaining the original angle. Take off just a tiny bit, re-assemble the gun and try it. Repeat until there is no over-rotation. It is tedious, but not difficult
Funny thing, I watched your video a little while ago. Today I went to a gun show and picked up this same model but with a 32 S&W conversion in it. Best $170 I've spent in a long time.
This might well be my next gun. Iv been shooting large guns for a long time , thinking about going small for a change. Be a decent purse gun.
I was kinda thinking the same thing .
Many years since you've done this but I still have to thank you for all the information you deliver.
Very cool, I love pocket pistols and this one is no exception. Great video sir
God those are such beautiful little revolvers!!
I have always enjoyed your videos.
I wish the video had shown the bullet placement on target as well as the distance recommended for this caliber. Informative as always and i enjoy your expertise with firearms. Thank you.
Inside seven yards, drawn from concealment, is what this weapon is best suited for.
Just ordered mine from Midway with overnight shipping can't wait
Beautiful video and beautiful revolver.
Thanks for the knowledge you have and continue to pass on
Excellent information. Much appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to explain everything hey what don't like them but I love the stories and the history
Love the video series by the way!
Hi Mike, I recently purchased both the Uberti 1849 and 1849 Wells Fargo. Both guns needed work to be reliable. Both are terrible cap suckers. However, after doing some work on them, I'm now very happy. I bought Taylor 32 S&W conversion cylinders for them. The Wells Fargo produces 1/2" 32 S&W groups from 7yds with a two hand hold. While not the most powerful handguns I own, they are the cutest by far.
Thank you for your excellent reviews.
Regards,
Richard
awesome video thank you for taking the time to make it!
awesome little pistol.great vid. thx
I used a .32 caliber muzzle loading short starter.
Thank you for your vids. Mike!!!!!!
After .32 S&W dried up in my home town. I am having to relearn how to shoot my pocket revolver in it original configuration. I love these lil guys. There fun once you tune them up. Also thank you for the FFFF idea. It works much better then the FFF loads I have been using. I am going to miss having .32S&W on hand though. Made quick trips the range easer.
Enjoyed the video, thanks
Yes it does
Cool. Another great vid. Thanks
Colt is my beloved thing. Oh yeah👍
Dear, Mike.
Just sayin i really njoy guns of the old west magazine! especially your articles!
Thanks for the video.
I’ve always wondered about these. Thanks for the video. #8-)
You get to tinker with the coolest stuff! Great little revolver... the chiefs special or KelTec P32 of its day!
Great info! Never considered using a ball starter to load off the gun. That seems to work very well.
I've never fired one of Sam Colt's pocket revolvers. I use a of Remington model 1863. I've been thinking about making some of the combustibles for it. As they would hasten the charging of the chambers. Anyways, another great video. I always enjoy watching and learning from them. You act like you've fired black powder weapons a time or two, lol.
Thanks again,
Josh
great overview I hope I can get this pistol
@shouldibehere Yes. You are right about that. The hand needs to be shortened a little.
I prefer Uberti. The 1860 Army is also a fine choice. I personally prefer it to the Navy, but I think the Navy in .36 caliber is a good gun to start with.
Taylor just got my FFL, of course they were out of what I really wanted a 5-1/2" blued 1858 Rem but I did get a 1849 I however went with the loading lever model just had a better look for me, also got the Runnin' Iron Deluxe 3-1/2" 45 LC blued on the way love the short barred 45 LC have a Colt SAA 4-3/4", and a conversion cylinder for my Ruger Old Army 5-1/2" Thanks for the video the last 4 shots fired were really cool!
Thanks for a great video. I learned a lot about 1849 pocket revolver.
They make the 1849 pocket without the loading lever.. I didn't know that. I was thinking this was the baby dragoon 1848. But it doesn't have the square trigger guard. I learned something today. Thanks...good video,
Mine is made by palmetto, it has the loading lever. It is a pretty little weapon accurate enough up to 15 meters. Good video.
I think the 1851 Navy is the best choice for a first C&B revolver
Just got my 1851 navy last week. Can’t find the supplies to shoot it. Any help?
So cowboys had to carry hammers , wax , an all kinds of crap ..Wow Clint Eastwood made it look so easy.
he wasn't carrying pocket pistols
Joe Baker he used a colt 1849 in outlaw Josey Wales, and Remington model 1863 in The Pale Rider. However all his guns were converted to fire blank cartridges.
Yeah Eastwood and his costars always used converted pistols. They were supposedly meant to be powder pistols in Josey Wales as it takes place during the civil war and also Lee Van Cleef had a percussion Remington in Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. They were converted guns for the actual shooting then swapped back to percussion for scenes when they were not actually shooting. Only the new True Grit remake and a couple other modern westerns use actual black powder guns. The series Hell on Wheels is one that uses real black powder guns.
Well it probably was second nature to the old cowboys and gunslingers.
I've always wished they would make a 22 LR conversion on these neat little guns
they do make 22lr conversion cylinders but only for specific revolvers.
theres a 22lr versoin of the saa
Kirst Konverter makes .22 conversion kits.
These pistols bores are actually .32 caliber, not. 22 caliber.
@@denisdegamon8224 uh yeah. Check out Jake Steiner’s reply
Just so you are aware Mr. Beliveau, black powder does not require oxygen between the grains of powder. Blackpowder has potassium nitrate in it to provide oxygen. It still combusts in an oxygen starved environment. The grain size has more to do with the surface area of the grains of powder than the air pockets between them.
If you get a chance I would love to hear the history and shooting demo of the Remington over and under derringer.
Generally speaking I prefer Uberti cap and ball guns, and I prefer Pietta SAA clones.
Mike - I'm a subscriber and I enjoy your videos, and appreciate all the time and effort that goes into making them. I hope this doesn't come off as being overly critical - it's your obsession with "five beans in the wheel" (or in this case 4 beans). If you were going to carry the thing, I see the point - I get it. However if all you're going to do is load it and walk over to the firing line and shoot it you are NOT being unsafe. Seriously, I appreciate you Mike. Take care and God bless.
Yah that's really pushing the safety thing to the nth degree.
#0 (.320) lead buckshot balls work perfectly in these little .31 cap & ball handguns - much more economical and easier to get a hold of than .36 or .44 caliber balls!
4f works great for .36 too. Leaves very little residue and matches OE 3f based on chronograph speed (for less cost).
Look on my channel for a video called Western Double Barrel Derringer
@docwilkey Sure. Use Pyrodex "P"
Sir, you are the only other person I know that recommends 4F powder for small pistol calibers…. I personally think this is the reason uninformed shooters are disappointed with the small cap and ball revolvers because they are using the wrong powder.
I've only fired black powder once and that was a flintlock but I'm very interested in cap and ball. My understanding is that you should rotate the pistol to vertical as you cock it to let the fired cap fall free. Also, black powder doesn't need oxygen around it to burn, it needs space for the flame front to propagate and smaller grain size = greater surface area for the flame to propagate onto hence faster burning.
Pointing the revolver up to cock it, won't hurt, but anybody who did that in a gunfight would be fertilizer in short order. You are right about smaller grained powders burning faster due to more surface area. That works up to a point. the smaller grains pack tighter, which slows the progress of the flame through the load column. But, for the small charges used in revolvers, that isn't an issue.
I use 2F in my Dragoon and my Walker, but never thought about using it in .45 Colt. I'm going to try it in my next batch of reloads and see how it does at softening the recoil of my '58 Remington with a conversion cylinder.
Better sound here than on Pietta Remington Pocket Pistol.
If I recall correctly, Elmer Keith carried an original 1849 in his chaps pocket while running his teenage trapline.
What diameter ball are you using in your little 31?
Picked up a lightly used San Marco repro Baby Dragoon today.
I`m guessing a ball diameter of somewhere between .320 and .330 would give a good seal.
+1957Shep you ever get a straight answer about preferred ball?
+Aaron Kidd The .321 diameter pure lead round balls from Dixie GunWorks seem to work pretty good.
Google Tennessee Valley Muzzleloading and Red Jacket Muzzleloading
Haha. I just found my new EDC! 😁
On second thought, it's a bit tough for tactical reloads.
Just use the guy you shot guns
This little pocket model. I have two of them (Sam Houston gave me the one Colt 'sent' him. He was pissed at Sam). Anyway, I have made for myself a wonderful work around to the no lever bisiness. I can load it without removing the barrel. I resize the elongated balls so that I can press the balls into the chamber with heavy thumb pressure. I then run a formed oak dowel rammer down the bore and seat the balls firmly. I then oil the loaded balls. It fires with v e r y adequate force, the other balls do not dislodge from recoil and there is no communication of fire between chambers causing multiple discharges.
Mine are Authentic Colts.
THANKS MIKE. One of my favorites. A question for you. I've been told that 00 buckshot is an acceptable replacement for for .31balls if you find yourself low on ammo? ;-) Oh and a second question. Does the Howell conversion for the Remington .31 have the safety notch?
Single 0 buckshot is better, but you can get 00 into the chamber.
Some have remarked about not loading all the chambers. One observation is to load all, but leave one uncapped. Not good! Cap and powder blast can enter and chain fire the sucker.
Thanks, I'll have to do some saving up. Wouldn't mind a muzzle loader rifle any ones you'd recommend?
Thanks again, Josh
The Lyman 1st edition black powder manual has 4f loads for these small caliber weapons.I have used the data for years.The "only use 4f for priming" thing is a modern lawyer junk science you will shoot your eye out mentality.The 31/32 caliber guns are a hoot!
Which revolver would you recommend for a first cap and ball?
I'm getting interested in them since a friend asked me to clean his Tranter-Adams 1851 self-cocking revolver
will pyrodex work in the 31 cal. cap and ball pistols? Black powder is hard to find in my area.
Mike, you seem to fight these replicas a lot to get them to shoot smoothly through multiple shots. Is this chiefly because the workmanship is not as "finished" as the originals?
Does the A. Uberti repro of the 1849 have the pins at the rear of the cylinder between chambers?
Mike: I looks like you were fighting the pistol to get the second shot out, like it was not indexing properly or a cap issue? Was there a problem?
Now I see the answer to my question I put on the previous vid! I might have to get me a hand slot stone...
Thanks, any preference in manufacturer? Also is the 1851 Army just as good for first choice as well?
Thanks, Josh
Hey Mike so I have one more questionsorry to always be posting questions in your comments sections but you are the most knowledgeable that I've seen in answering questions that I can't find online .
I just purchased another one of these Wells Fargo models for my girlfriend because she took a really big liking to mine after she seen it and I would like to put custom grips on it for her before I give it what model grips would fit these 18-49 is because searching grips for 18-49 pocket revolver yields nothing
I'm not aware of any commercial grips for them. You'd probable need to make them from scratch.
@@duelist1954 okay sir thank you very much I'm sure you haven't seen the last of me I'll be trolling you're video on the Capt Schaeffer .36 I just purchased one and I trust you're opinion more than any other
I also use 4f in my 6” model
Very nice. My partner has severe arthritis & she wants something she can shoot in black powder.
Can you set the hammer between the cylinder cones as on the '51 Navy or are we compelled to leave a chamber empty? And thanks for responding to my other query.That's quite a charge coming out of that little pistol!
It has one safety pin on the cylinder so you can carry it with all five chambers loaded
I have always wanted to know how powerful is a 31 black powder revolver, could have the same stopping power than a "modern" 32 acp? Or maybe closer than a 22lr? In any case I love muzzle loaders.
I had an original 31 cal. Colt pocket model in good condition. I traded it for a new Spanish made10 gauge double barrel shotgun.
I know nothing about black powder guns. Im a correct in my observation that you had to manually align the chamber a few times after cocking?
have you tried the kirst converter for this?
i looked at it online. doesn't apear to have a loading gate. just has a cutaway
Hello' I have a question for you can I upgrade this Model to a or with .22 conversion from : Kirst Konverter please let me know thanks !
would the .31 mini ball be accurate out of this? I bought them for my Crockett rifle and found the round ball to be a choice for squirrels. I was thinking of getting one of these as a companion sidearm so I don't have to carry different ammo
Bill B I haven't tried them, but I would expect them to shoot well
Which do you like better the pocket 1849 or the Remington 1863?
Eric Jesperson they are pretty much the same as far as I can tell
I think the 63 has a different trigger
I am in between buying a pistol with a loading lever or one without. I am not sure how easy it is to load without the lever. I watched the video but unfortunately, someone fired a shot just as you mentioned what tool you used to load the chamber. Can you let me know how you did it?
Question I have the same gun I am going to follow you're practice to using 4f powder to get a bit more velocity is the 12 grains you put in about max of what can go in or can I squeeze more in? Also could 777 be another solution for obtaining as much velocity as possible?
Try Swiss 3Fg black powder
@@duelist1954 thank you very much sir
Do you know if they make lubricated wads for these and where you can buy them?
Hey Mike I have a brass CVA 1851 Wells Fargo and I have a problem with the caps not clearing or being tight against the frame. Does it have incorrect nipples or is it something common with the CVA?
No issues that I'm aware of. Either Pietta or Armi San Paolo made CVA's guns...can't remember which.
Thank you for your prompt response
Try different size caps.
I have an original to 1861 Colt pocket revolver. I would like to have it preserved and a couple repairs done. Probably not looking to fire it so much as just have it not broken. It's been in the family since new. Can you recommend a gunsmith able to do the work?
Alan Harton of Sixgun Specialists in Huston, TX
duelist1954 thanks I will look him up
Isn't there a safety pin protrusion on the back of the cylinder on these so that you can safely load all 5 cylinders and keep the hammer from moving to a live cylinder? My 1851 and 1860 Colt replicas have this safety feature. Thanks.
Yes there is. See Mike's reply to another. I have the regular 1849 (with loading lever) and it has the pin also.
What would you think about using 4F in a .36 1851 navy, and a Patterson? I have been using 3F at 25-30 grains but I am not really impressed with the velocities.
You will get higher pressure, but little velocity increase. That much 4Fg will burn inefficiently in a .36 chamber
Do you have any other ideas for something that will give it a little more speed? My pistols are shooting at the same speed as a .44 but with less than weight. The club I shoot with shoots steel and it has to make an audible ring to count as a hit, but I have found that my 36 will not ring many of the targets. (10-50 yards)
Triple Seven 3F will give you more "ooomph" per grain than basic black powder. It may give you more velocity thereby making the steel "ring" a little louder.
can you still buy these revolvers, if so where? thanks for the video
deciding between the 1848 baby dragoon and the 1849 pocket model. not counting the loading lever which would you pick and why? are the cylinder stops on the 1848 bad? thanks.
Choose the one that speaks to you. There isn’t much practical difference between them
Thanks much. I picked the baby dragoon. Now off to search for the .300 lead ball.
opps meant .330
00 buckshot is .330
Forgot the "LE" in barreled in last post.
Nice video Mike, Say I am sure you been asked before, Mike. Do you ever make and use home made Black powder?
No. I never have
duelist1954 You should give it a go Mike works very well and its easy to do.
Nope. Haven't tried it.
do you prefer Uberti or Pietta replicas?
I have one of these but it is way rusted and a little janky
SpookyLizards upload some pictures, would be nice to see.
Would you like to sell it?
Hahaha and the buzzards circle. These are a cool little pistol. Sometime hard to find. But I have mine. ;-)
this may sound like a dumb question, but if people carried these everyday how did they keep the balls from falling out. I have no experience but I would think that riding a horse or whatever they did to get around, the ball would shake loose from the cylinder
+Paul D The bullets used here are slightly oversized compared to the chambers of the cylinder. They have to be _wedged_ inside when loading, which creates a seal tight enough to prevent them from shaking loose. (On his other videos you can see a thin ring of lead stripped away from the ball by this process.) =)
Paul D they put an over sized ball in them say you have a 44cal you would put a .454 ball to keep it from coming out it makes it where the powder don't get wet from rain as well
Im confused, you said larger powder like 3 and 2F burn quicker and make more power, but chose 4F because it gave more power in this littler gun. Wouldn't 2F give more power per space?
+Chris Collins But then you wouldn't have room for that much powder due to the larger size of the granulations. You need a balance between the size of the granulations themselves and the space around them that the flame will travel through.
2 fg and 3 fg butn slower not faster than 4 fg. 4 fg is very fine grain powder used mostly for priming flintlocks.
Are the 1949 and 1862 pocket models about the same size? Thanks
Yup
Doesn't one of the lugs on back of the cylinder have a notch you can rest the hammer down on, and it locks it in place? That way you can still load 5 but not have the hammer on a live cap. Maybe that was only introduced in the later version with loading lever.
I have one of these and your guess was right there is no notch
It has a pin/notch between cylinders so you can safely carry all five chambers loaded.
Can you tell me what size round balls you were using? I have an Uberti 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver with the loading lever. I have a .319 Lee round ball mold and these seems slightly too small. No ring of lead was shaved off. It still seems like they made a semi-decent seal. They would not roll right out or anything like that. Thanks! Love the videos!
.32 caliber, 00 buckshot.
duelist1954 thanks! I'd imagine that 319 diameter would be close enough as its only a thousandth of an inch off. Thank you for your reply!
duelist1954 I used a 00 buckshot mold and found they were tough getting in. A .323 mold seems to be just about right for me.
I just purchased one of these and the cylinder over rotates a lot of the time. What is the issue I'm experiencing and how do I fix it or should I just send it back?
The hand is probably too long. It is easy to file down
duelist1954 ok, could you provide a few details as to how to do this properly.
Kristopher Myers It is exactly as you would think. The hand is soft, so it won't damage the cylinder ratchets, just use a file and take a little off the top of the hand, while maintaining the original angle. Take off just a tiny bit, re-assemble the gun and try it. Repeat until there is no over-rotation. It is tedious, but not difficult
Do you have any idea about the velocity this thing produces?
Just about 700 fps
duelist1954 Thanks!