Just discover your channel. It's amazing the fact that you are collecting all the data so we can take our own conclusions, instead of sharing just your opinion. That's how everything should be done. Many thanks ;)
Thanks again for testing this beautiful car. I expected a little bit more efficiency from this car but I guess the looks are great and for some people who don’t mind range nor efficiency it could be a good option.
Bjørn Nyland Drove DS3 e-tense few months ago. Very nice interior, but odd position of pedals and boot to small. Was not approved by my New Foundlander so went with E-Niro (MY2020) instead....
There is a software update coming soon to fix a number of issues. The range isn't displayed correctly, and the actual available amount of battery isn't correct. Peugeot are fixing it. The dealer should know about this. We had one in the UK for a while a few months ago.
Edward Byard are you sure the update cannot be user installed? I had an update 3 weeks ago which popped up on the MyPeugeot app, i installed it succesfully in my car. Even though it didnt fix my range, i could easily install it however.
Have owned the exact same car for 2 months. Have to say overall I am happy with it. It was supposed to have adaptive cruise and lane assist when I ordered it but hasn’t got it. Only cars built March onwards get it uuuurrrgh
Yeah, that's true. Got one that was built after february and it's got the whole package ;-) It's pretty cool. The LKA works fine but the LFA only is efficient on motorways/highways with nice and clear markings on the road.
I test drove one of these just before the lockdown and I really liked it, felt sportier than my Zoe ZE40 (I am still waiting to test drive the new Zoe - probably 2021 at the rate things are going). Thanks for the test and looking forward to the next video.
To be fair, this car needs to be retested with 16" wheels on a warmer day. Thank you for the test, it also gives an idea about Corsa-e consumption and range.
@@bjornnyland yeah, in e-208 you can get 3 sizes of wheels : 195/55R16, 205/45R17, 205/40R18. But the most economical, although least stylish would be those from the weakest 208 1.2 PureTech 74hp - 185/65R15. E-up uses even narrower tires! the idea - give peugeot 155 tires and check the difference! :)
At last. The e208 in Bjorn's hands. We have one, and it's great. Acceleration is surprisingly good. (We also have a Leaf 40kWh and e208 has much better acceleration than the Leaf.)
e208 doesn’t feel as nippy as some others as soon as you plant the pedal but suspect that is deliberate as it is still delivering very smooth power to 70 mph and beyond whereas other EVs in the price range flatten off above 50mph. Maybe the engineers want it to have the same acceleration characteristics as an ICE hot hatch.
I tried this good looking car, nice design details, seats feel good and also liked the panoramic roof giving more natural light inside. The driving position and steering wheel is a bad ergonomic, did not liked at all. And felt somehow more noise from the outside into the interior environment of the car. Other than that, drives OK and nice range. Good job Bjørn, keep up with the real life review videos. Tusen takk.
AT last , a nice looking , good quality EV every normal person can afford ! I would buy this EV for sure before Iwould splash out the big bucks for a Tesla , Audi-eTron,or Mercedes EQC ! Looking forward to your long drive reviews !
Over 30000 pounds in the UK, small inside, dark and uncomfortable to sits in and the range is not that good... Not sure why all this fuss about this car
@@jaz4280 "EV every normal person can afford", righgt. I went and asked a dealership today and they have some for €25k. Yeah sorry but no, a "normal person" ain't spending 25k on *a city car,* especially when I can have a Dacia Sandero for 13k or a Renault Clio for 15, both with the turbocharged LPG engine which costs LESS than the electric one to run and is more practical (no charging issues etc). Oh and that 25k includes the fact that it's a car the dealership bought last year with 10k of government incentives. The actual list price would be 35... which is enough to buy a BMW 2 series. So unless a 2 series is a car "every normal person can afford", then the e208 isn't either. The truth is an actually affordable EV still doesn't exist. Until the price gets below _at least_ 15k for a car that is ACTUALLY USABLE (i.e. no shitboxes with 100km of range and a top speed of 80km/h or some crap), it's not affordable.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask: are you going to re-test it for the 2023 model? It should have better range and efficiency. I looked around a lot for info on this model, looking for which EV to buy for city dwelling and short trips. Your honest and high quality reviews convinced me this was the right car. I have one since May 2021 and we absolutely love it. The one downside we do not like is cabin heating uses a resistor which makes winter range for city dwelling use abysmal, we hardly get 100km of range on a full charge when temperatures outside are around freezing.
Another superb and informative test. The only real world tests on youtube you can trust. A pleasure to see an EV reviewer / tester who knows what he is talking about! Any chance you could test the new e-2008 to see how it compares?
If someone new do not know about Björn's roots and Thai channel they might think that he got some brain malfunction at 4:32 😂. Great video 👍🏻 and I liked those Thailand episodes a lot too!
Good video but I am disappointed with Peugeot. They claim wltp 340 km for this car and 300 km for the e2008. I was expecting better results. But still a beautiful car I love it
Reminder, everyone advertises the WLTP combined cycle. On the Peugeot website there is the simulator and it is good 90 km/h 15°C= 272 km 120 km/h 15°C= 186 km
It's mainly a city car, and tbh I would take those looks over the super streamlined look of a lot of EVs. Bare in mind this is the same as the petrol and diesel car in form, so I doubt windtunneling it to hell was a top priority. For a sub €30k car, the range and charging speeds are pretty good still
Indeed. It is smaller than my Leaf, and thirstier... Makes me feel better of going Leaf instead of e-corsa (which might have a better drag coefficient)
Bjørn, I just got 5 in between commercial breaks in this video on the TV and 4 commercial breaks on the tablet. Used to get one at start and end until now. No issue, just so you know. I watched them all. 😬
@@rzvqvb interesting. I've been finding the ads more relevant of late. Definitely more EV stuff but wasn't sure if that was generally the case or if the algorithm was updated. Sounds like a bit of both.
Thanks for the feedback. It means that advertisers are back to normal. I saw a very big dip in my income about one month ago when covid was really bad.
Bjorn, thank you so much, I have been waiting for this video and I am really looking forward to the rest in this car. It has been on my list for my next EV when I upgrade from my 30kWh LEAF. I have to say though the range on the E208 is disappointing, I would of only got the 16" wheel version anyway but man this sucks. That driving ergonomics has always been a worry as well, size of the car is fine for me. So far this has put me off. Maybe I have to get a ZE50 Zoe, not sure, charging speed puts me off the Zoe. Hmmm. Thank you anyway.
An experienced EV driver like Bjørn, of course, knows that consuming is larger the first couple of kilometers, after zeroing and starting driving. This is because the start of the trip includes an acceleration up to the desired speed. Of course, the correct measurement is obtained - as Bjørn is showing - only when the car has stopped completely after the trip.
NextMove just tested the Model Y and ended up with 167Wh/km at 120km/h! What is wrong with the Peugeot that it uses so much more? I know, different roads, different driver, blah blah blah, but STILL! Am I missing something here?
Yeah, just watched it! Temp was over 20c and average speed was little under 110km/h because of traffic, etc. Hvac off! The sample was also small around ~80km trip. There will be some more testing, but its almost as efficient as model 3 for sure!(based on US tests) But what is fascinating is 150km/h test at around 14c and it was ~254wh!!! Insane! It was performance Model Y with 21". Crazy!!!
@@bjornnyland I agree that that seems very low, but even accounting for some things (drop in altitude, no HVAC, 108km/h average speed), the Y seems far more efficient than the e208! czcams.com/video/gsHNN93Ty7Y/video.htmlm08s In any case, I'm looking forward to your test some time down the road ;-)
Would be nice if you ever were able to test a MB B250e, its a car that is not sold anymore, but would still be nice seeing a test considering that i see so many people in Norway owning one
I love that Peugeot steering wheel! I wish that all cars had that design where you look over it. Once you've used it, it feels super awkward to hold your hands up so high on a normal steering wheel.
Hey Bjorn: I know every so often you try to explain to people the difference between kW and kWh, and still people can't grasp the concept, so to further frustrate you, would you like to explain drag -- specifically due to air? Speed, barometric pressure, moisture content, temperature, frontal area and Cd etc. I bet you could explain it in terms most would understand, then they might just get why 90/120 km/h are such different power draws.
I’m disappointed, I expected more efficiency from this car, it's worse than the e-Golf and the e-Golf is longer and heavier, still, it's a very nice looking car, probably one of the best looking EVs so far.
I have mine for around 2 months now. I do an 80 mile round trip commute (both duel carriageways and B roads) and I come home with around 112 miles left! I get around 4.3kw/mile :)
On highway at high speed most of the energy is spent on prevalling air resistance and being heavy doesn't matter much , having a more elongated body actually helps with aerodynamics , this is also why a long sedan usually have a better highway consumption than a short city car. Obviously the reverse happens in city driving where during the stop and go routine a lower mass does help a lot to achieve a better consumption.
First Model Y numbers are in, 167wh/km with a 430km range.(120km/h) That is the inefficient performance with inefficient 21" tires. So worst case for Y. Beats everything on the market by far...
@@emilypowell4304 That sounds better than Bjorn’s results, but it’s still not good enough, Bjorn tested the Model 3 SR+ and got 122wh/km, 127 for the Kona and 131 for the Niro… I didn’t expect the e-208 to beat any of those, but I was expecting it to beat the e-golf… instead the e-208 did way worse, the e-Golf managed 149 with winter tires at 0 degrees Celsius, so under more ideal conditions it would have performed much better.
Nice day night test I was surprised that efficiency drops so much between 90 & 120km/h cf. other EVs. Was it a little more hilly area during 120km/h test? We look forward to charge e208s in France thanks to SmartGreenCharge local renewable charging stations! 😊☀️🔋
I am always surprised by the consumption of these small cars. I have a Zoe 88hp and a Tesla Model 3 Performance more than 500hp. I just had a trip this afternoon on a French motorway (speed limit 130km/h), 200Wh/km. My Zoe, similarly with e208, could be considered not very efficient by consuming around 300Wh/km at 130km/h. At 90 km/h, even my Tesla is far away more efficient. Some say that it is very easy to make an electric car by adding battery, car body, wheels and electric engine. Sure? Kia Hyundai have also a good efficiency and in the top rated.
ZOE and 208e are designed to city travelling and not for high speeds at the highways. On the highways the drag coefficient kicks in. So testing them in city situations would be more realistic.
@@OVKE2309 Agree partially because let's say that people buying these same cars equipped with a petrol engine use them also on motorways. In France and other countries, we can use a Renault Twingo as a daily and sometime going from north to south by motorway easily. EV's should be only low aerodynamic sedan cars ( like ICE's)
Indeed, also very surprised about this. The Tesla Model S Bjorn tested earlier this week performed better. Model S is way heavier, wider, 245/45-19 wheels!! It really looks like a software issue.
How do you experience the noise level in the car campared to kia eniro? If the e-2008 (which I assume have about the same level as in 208) is better, than I think I prefer Peugeot over Kia, despite’s the way shorter range.
ขอบคุณคร๊าบ sawaddee from Switzerland Krab. Peugeot looks very nice and very French I got a new ICE new Peugeot 2008 instead for now. I wait for the cheaper Tesla. 😅😅😅😅😅
Because they keep insisting in one single gear for E.V.s so it is fast 0/100 km/h but has a crap range...go figure, like going on a highway always in 2nd or 3rd gear. The electric motor is able to spin faster so it reaches the required speed but it is not eficient above 6000 rpm. Lazy Engineering, horrible performance and worst value. Only suitable for city driving!
I really wish we got a car like this in the US. Unfortunately we won’t get any of these Peugeot/Citroen/Vauxhall/Opel small EVs, nor will we get the VW ID.3. We need some small affordable EVs with range over 200 miles. I really would just be happy if the US got any PSA models. It will be a miracle if COVID-19 and the PSA-FCA merger doesn’t put a kibosh on PSA’s plan to re-emerge in the US. What I’d really like to see PSA offer is a 308 GTI electric. A hot hatch that’s also an EV with a range of 300 miles, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and a price less than $35,000.
With Stellantis you won't get any Peugeot or Citroen, but you will certainly get Chryslers built on the same platforms. I suspect that the future e3008 will be rebadged as a Chrysler for North America
I need minmum 230 kms range at 120 kms/h when degradation 20% minus.... i think batery capacity for my 64 kwh!! the next generation of peugeot perhaps....
So you tested the range with almost 100% of charge. Is that realistic? I hear a lot about how EV batteries should not be charged up to 100%, it seems to have a negative impact on their lifespan. Also, as for the temperature, the range of EVs is the worst in winter, so testing at low temperatures would be more interesting than at higher temperatures.
Just discover your channel. It's amazing the fact that you are collecting all the data so we can take our own conclusions, instead of sharing just your opinion. That's how everything should be done. Many thanks ;)
Norway does look incredibly beautiful. It's good to see.
Especially right now in early summer, just so inspiring to be outside.... . We lived in Hamar by lake Mjosa for many years.
Great to finally see you test the e-208 Björn, kudos! :-)
Thank you for all these videos. It would be good to have a HUGE Bjorn head to head with all avaliable EVs ;) Segmented by price range.
Test idea : 1000km challenge between the Renault Zoe and the Peugeot e208 !
That is an excellent idea, Michel!
Michel and Mitchell are similar names
I put 2 bananas on the Frenchman :D
Ok, I think the Peugeot will win, because it just can charge at a higher speed.
@@madgaming3172 You know that Renault is also French right? :D but I agree with 208.
@@TravelwithPavel yes :D
That's why I put my money on the Frenchman, win win.
Thanks again for testing this beautiful car. I expected a little bit more efficiency from this car but I guess the looks are great and for some people who don’t mind range nor efficiency it could be a good option.
Finally ! YEAH ! LOVE YOUR WORK BJORN !
Xpeng, Taycan and e-208 all in 2 weeks? Bjorn’s back y’all !! ;)
DS 3 coming next week.
Bjørn Nyland Drove DS3 e-tense few months ago. Very nice interior, but odd position of pedals and boot to small. Was not approved by my New Foundlander so went with E-Niro (MY2020) instead....
There is a software update coming soon to fix a number of issues. The range isn't displayed correctly, and the actual available amount of battery isn't correct. Peugeot are fixing it. The dealer should know about this. We had one in the UK for a while a few months ago.
Over the air software update ? : )
@@rvb6516 that would be fabulous
@@rvb6516 Sadly not....!
Edward Byard are you sure the update cannot be user installed? I had an update 3 weeks ago which popped up on the MyPeugeot app, i installed it succesfully in my car. Even though it didnt fix my range, i could easily install it however.
came her from Aptera, since they changed the engine to the EMR3 which Peugeot e-208 uses! as always great video! :D
Have owned the exact same car for 2 months. Have to say overall I am happy with it. It was supposed to have adaptive cruise and lane assist when I ordered it but hasn’t got it. Only cars built March onwards get it uuuurrrgh
Yeah, that's true. Got one that was built after february and it's got the whole package ;-) It's pretty cool. The LKA works fine but the LFA only is efficient on motorways/highways with nice and clear markings on the road.
I test drove one of these just before the lockdown and I really liked it, felt sportier than my Zoe ZE40 (I am still waiting to test drive the new Zoe - probably 2021 at the rate things are going). Thanks for the test and looking forward to the next video.
To be fair, this car needs to be retested with 16" wheels on a warmer day. Thank you for the test, it also gives an idea about Corsa-e consumption and range.
The problem is that press cars are most of the time top trim with the biggest rims.
@@bjornnyland Yeah pretty annoying when you try to test a car and BAM you get humongous 22" like on the Ipace .
Yes 17" is a mess.
Why they keep the radius higher without keep the same width of the 16"?
The width of the tire in cm's is the ditermining factor, not the rim size in inches. These 2 go hand in hand but not always.
@@bjornnyland yeah, in e-208 you can get 3 sizes of wheels : 195/55R16, 205/45R17, 205/40R18. But the most economical, although least stylish would be those from the weakest 208 1.2 PureTech 74hp - 185/65R15. E-up uses even narrower tires! the idea - give peugeot 155 tires and check the difference! :)
Because y’all don’t watch the full video and complain about 120km/h test, bjorn had to add it multiple times so you stay till the end!
Been waiting for this! :)
Anyone get the Polestar 2 ad? Finally, an ad relevant to the content!
If you are able to test the e-corsa it would be interesting to see any differences as underneath they are the same car
It's the same powertrain. Also the DS3 but it is a crossover.
@@antoniocirino8444 thats what he said lol
But the air resistance is different and the software. Would love a test of the Opel corsa-e, too!
@@SuperGURU_Ben yes exactly, would be good to see the differences
i did the 120 km/h test with corsa-e a few days ago. got 211 Wh/km after 100 km. 12°C temperature and dry conditions.
In Greece, the same car managed to do 360km in highway with speeds of 80 to 110kmh. Ait temp was 32 degrees C though!
At last. The e208 in Bjorn's hands. We have one, and it's great. Acceleration is surprisingly good. (We also have a Leaf 40kWh and e208 has much better acceleration than the Leaf.)
You should measure that acceleration. In specs, Leaf is faster to 100! Maybe this one is quicker to 50!?
e208 doesn’t feel as nippy as some others as soon as you plant the pedal but suspect that is deliberate as it is still delivering very smooth power to 70 mph and beyond whereas other EVs in the price range flatten off above 50mph. Maybe the engineers want it to have the same acceleration characteristics as an ICE hot hatch.
Good boy 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽,in the end.can’t wait for the results
I like that you write about 120kmh test at the end for Fred Lambert 😂
I tried this good looking car, nice design details, seats feel good and also liked the panoramic roof giving more natural light inside. The driving position and steering wheel is a bad ergonomic, did not liked at all. And felt somehow more noise from the outside into the interior environment of the car. Other than that, drives OK and nice range. Good job Bjørn, keep up with the real life review videos. Tusen takk.
the best Peogeot E 208 range test. good good good
This car looks amazing
AT last , a nice looking , good quality EV every normal person can afford !
I would buy this EV for sure before Iwould splash out the big bucks for a Tesla , Audi-eTron,or Mercedes EQC !
Looking forward to your long drive reviews !
Classic Ioniq was cheaper, didn't you know?
Over 30000 pounds in the UK, small inside, dark and uncomfortable to sits in and the range is not that good... Not sure why all this fuss about this car
@@jaz4280 "EV every normal person can afford", righgt. I went and asked a dealership today and they have some for €25k.
Yeah sorry but no, a "normal person" ain't spending 25k on *a city car,* especially when I can have a Dacia Sandero for 13k or a Renault Clio for 15, both with the turbocharged LPG engine which costs LESS than the electric one to run and is more practical (no charging issues etc).
Oh and that 25k includes the fact that it's a car the dealership bought last year with 10k of government incentives. The actual list price would be 35... which is enough to buy a BMW 2 series. So unless a 2 series is a car "every normal person can afford", then the e208 isn't either.
The truth is an actually affordable EV still doesn't exist. Until the price gets below _at least_ 15k for a car that is ACTUALLY USABLE (i.e. no shitboxes with 100km of range and a top speed of 80km/h or some crap), it's not affordable.
Can't wait for the 1000 km challenge
Not sure if this is the right place to ask: are you going to re-test it for the 2023 model? It should have better range and efficiency.
I looked around a lot for info on this model, looking for which EV to buy for city dwelling and short trips. Your honest and high quality reviews convinced me this was the right car. I have one since May 2021 and we absolutely love it. The one downside we do not like is cabin heating uses a resistor which makes winter range for city dwelling use abysmal, we hardly get 100km of range on a full charge when temperatures outside are around freezing.
Another superb and informative test. The only real world tests on youtube you can trust. A pleasure to see an EV reviewer / tester who knows what he is talking about! Any chance you could test the new e-2008 to see how it compares?
If someone new do not know about Björn's roots and Thai channel they might think that he got some brain malfunction at 4:32 😂.
Great video 👍🏻 and I liked those Thailand episodes a lot too!
Love the design.
Proposing Björn's test procedure for ISO Standard, lol
Watch the end of the video for 120 km/h test.
Please, make 1000km test and full overview with all pros and cons as you have it for 10 days! Thank you a lot.
Fantastic! Thanks Bjorn!
Good video but I am disappointed with Peugeot. They claim wltp 340 km for this car and 300 km for the e2008. I was expecting better results. But still a beautiful car I love it
Keep in mind that this is not WLTP testing that I do.
Reminder, everyone advertises the WLTP combined cycle.
On the Peugeot website there is the simulator and it is good
90 km/h 15°C= 272 km
120 km/h 15°C= 186 km
It's mainly a city car, and tbh I would take those looks over the super streamlined look of a lot of EVs. Bare in mind this is the same as the petrol and diesel car in form, so I doubt windtunneling it to hell was a top priority.
For a sub €30k car, the range and charging speeds are pretty good still
@@carlitobrigante4758 so much the same as a ZE40 last gen Zoe,... I mean that's enough but it's not current gen range.
Indeed. It is smaller than my Leaf, and thirstier... Makes me feel better of going Leaf instead of e-corsa (which might have a better drag coefficient)
your reviews are the best Bjorn. Hope to meet you one day in Norway while I charge my future Tesla :)
Bjørn, I just got 5 in between commercial breaks in this video on the TV and 4 commercial breaks on the tablet. Used to get one at start and end until now.
No issue, just so you know. I watched them all. 😬
Can I ask where they relevant ads to this video or just general ones based on your viewing habits?
@@MrGonzonator 1 Zoe commercial, the rest 50% based on viewing habits, 50% Zombie Survival mobile games.
@@rzvqvb interesting. I've been finding the ads more relevant of late. Definitely more EV stuff but wasn't sure if that was generally the case or if the algorithm was updated. Sounds like a bit of both.
Thanks for the feedback. It means that advertisers are back to normal. I saw a very big dip in my income about one month ago when covid was really bad.
Please can we see the charging speeds. High speed range was a bit lower than expected but you can forgive it for looking so good.
Will probably be a separate video David.
Great to see your tests, thanks a lot.
Hey buddy, how do you do this man. I think you are shooting 5 videos at once and later separate them in post? Keep it up man!
I really like to see a test of the 2008 electric!
thanks
Here the spoiler.... it be worse.
@@AdrianMcDaid ahah yeah much heavier but looks very good. I really dont understand why they go to this tiny battery packs. cheers
@@fanciscop COST
2008 is lovely car inside.
Pug is on fire at the moment with design.
Last one I owned was 306 D Turbo
Bjorn, thank you so much, I have been waiting for this video and I am really looking forward to the rest in this car. It has been on my list for my next EV when I upgrade from my 30kWh LEAF. I have to say though the range on the E208 is disappointing, I would of only got the 16" wheel version anyway but man this sucks. That driving ergonomics has always been a worry as well, size of the car is fine for me. So far this has put me off. Maybe I have to get a ZE50 Zoe, not sure, charging speed puts me off the Zoe. Hmmm. Thank you anyway.
An experienced EV driver like Bjørn, of course, knows that consuming is larger the first couple of kilometers, after zeroing and starting driving. This is because the start of the trip includes an acceleration up to the desired speed. Of course, the correct measurement is obtained - as Bjørn is showing - only when the car has stopped completely after the trip.
NextMove just tested the Model Y and ended up with 167Wh/km at 120km/h! What is wrong with the Peugeot that it uses so much more? I know, different roads, different driver, blah blah blah, but STILL! Am I missing something here?
167 Wh/km sounds too low. It's even lower than Ioniq and Model 3. I'm not sure how they measured it. Real consumption should be 180-190 Wh/km.
Yeah, just watched it! Temp was over 20c and average speed was little under 110km/h because of traffic, etc. Hvac off! The sample was also small around ~80km trip. There will be some more testing, but its almost as efficient as model 3 for sure!(based on US tests)
But what is fascinating is 150km/h test at around 14c and it was ~254wh!!! Insane!
It was performance Model Y with 21". Crazy!!!
@@bjornnyland I agree that that seems very low, but even accounting for some things (drop in altitude, no HVAC, 108km/h average speed), the Y seems far more efficient than the e208! czcams.com/video/gsHNN93Ty7Y/video.htmlm08s
In any case, I'm looking forward to your test some time down the road ;-)
Dave Krüger nope. Your 120 km/h from nextmove isn’t correct. It was average 108 km/h. That’s quite a difference.
Would be nice if you ever were able to test a MB B250e, its a car that is not sold anymore, but would still be nice seeing a test considering that i see so many people in Norway owning one
Can you do a battery degradation test for this vehicle?
It will be the most viral video serie , 10 k new subscriptions per day 😂 go go go
Will you be doing a Mini Cooper SE review soon !
Thx for this test. I hope you can arrange the race between the e208 and E-tron 50, this weekend.
Could you please make a video of it’s Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop & Go function. Thank you for a good video review..
Guys!
Watch the end of the video for 120km/h test
2:51 Yes, because it's one of the only EVs that we the average folk can afford. 😂😂😂
Sucks being poor lol
Ever heard of Ioniq before? lol
@@bjornnyland Ioniq vs. VW Arteon with full options and 200kw engine and dualclutch DSG.
Same price.
@@fishunter007 A new Arteon with full options and 272hp 4Motion is like 70-75k€?!
I don't think the Ioniq is that expensive.
@@fishunter007 If you don't mind that Arteon 200kw smokes out 181g of co² every km...
@@fishunter007 Plus the heafty tax you have pay for the fossil Arteon.
Gutted. Just here for the banana box test. It should always be the first and most important test 😂
I love that Peugeot steering wheel! I wish that all cars had that design where you look over it. Once you've used it, it feels super awkward to hold your hands up so high on a normal steering wheel.
Sadly it doesn't work for me, I just couldn't get things in a place where I could see all the dials. I might be too short.
Hey Bjorn: I know every so often you try to explain to people the difference between kW and kWh, and still people can't grasp the concept, so to further frustrate you, would you like to explain drag -- specifically due to air? Speed, barometric pressure, moisture content, temperature, frontal area and Cd etc. I bet you could explain it in terms most would understand, then they might just get why 90/120 km/h are such different power draws.
Drag is proportional to speed squared, not exponential. Pandemics are exponential.
Drag is proportional to speed squared, not exponential. Pandemics are exponential.
@@tomooo2637 I fixed it for you. Maybe I'm saying it incorrectly. Is V² exponential form?
I’m disappointed, I expected more efficiency from this car, it's worse than the e-Golf and the e-Golf is longer and heavier, still, it's a very nice looking car, probably one of the best looking EVs so far.
Yes same here i'm really disappointed
I have mine for around 2 months now. I do an 80 mile round trip commute (both duel carriageways and B roads) and I come home with around 112 miles left! I get around 4.3kw/mile :)
On highway at high speed most of the energy is spent on prevalling air resistance and being heavy doesn't matter much , having a more elongated body actually helps with aerodynamics , this is also why a long sedan usually have a better highway consumption than a short city car.
Obviously the reverse happens in city driving where during the stop and go routine a lower mass does help a lot to achieve a better consumption.
First Model Y numbers are in, 167wh/km with a 430km range.(120km/h) That is the inefficient performance with inefficient 21" tires. So worst case for Y. Beats everything on the market by far...
@@emilypowell4304 That sounds better than Bjorn’s results, but it’s still not good enough, Bjorn tested the Model 3 SR+ and got 122wh/km, 127 for the Kona and 131 for the Niro… I didn’t expect the e-208 to beat any of those, but I was expecting it to beat the e-golf… instead the e-208 did way worse, the e-Golf managed 149 with winter tires at 0 degrees Celsius, so under more ideal conditions it would have performed much better.
4:08 Once you go "i-Cockpit", you can't go back 😅
Once the tyres are up to temp, rolling resistance goes down and range erects...
It´s a characteristic built in those Michoo Primacy
Hi Björn,
will you be updating your Google drive files with all your recent test results?
Always
Quality content👌
please check tyre pressure. The consumption is too high or is radius related.
Primacy 4 is not the best for ev.
Very Good...
Sorry Bjorn. At least here in Portugal, ioniq is everything but cheap. So, thanks for testing the Peugeot. Please test the living hell out of it.
I would also love to see the Corsa e for comparison. It'll really help the decision of which one to get 😊
5:01 beautiful view. Regarding the car they are offering healthy discounts already. Shame about the range.
On these small cars do you think the weight of a second person would increase consumption very much?
Nice day night test I was surprised that efficiency drops so much between 90 & 120km/h cf. other EVs. Was it a little more hilly area during 120km/h test? We look forward to charge e208s in France thanks to SmartGreenCharge local renewable charging stations! 😊☀️🔋
This car has drag coefficient of 0.29
It would be nice to change the tires to narrower , for example 175 and see the difference. Also what tire pressure was there?
I am always surprised by the consumption of these small cars. I have a Zoe 88hp and a Tesla Model 3 Performance more than 500hp. I just had a trip this afternoon on a French motorway (speed limit 130km/h), 200Wh/km. My Zoe, similarly with e208, could be considered not very efficient by consuming around 300Wh/km at 130km/h. At 90 km/h, even my Tesla is far away more efficient. Some say that it is very easy to make an electric car by adding battery, car body, wheels and electric engine. Sure? Kia Hyundai have also a good efficiency and in the top rated.
ZOE and 208e are designed to city travelling and not for high speeds at the highways. On the highways the drag coefficient kicks in. So testing them in city situations would be more realistic.
@@OVKE2309 Agree partially because let's say that people buying these same cars equipped with a petrol engine use them also on motorways. In France and other countries, we can use a Renault Twingo as a daily and sometime going from north to south by motorway easily. EV's should be only low aerodynamic sedan cars ( like ICE's)
Indeed, also very surprised about this. The Tesla Model S Bjorn tested earlier this week performed better. Model S is way heavier, wider, 245/45-19 wheels!! It really looks like a software issue.
@@nanterre38 : Sorry I do not agree, don't like Sedans at all.
Nice message for Fred at 4:46 ;-)
That mustard yellow looks pretty.edit: the led lights seem to be very good!
4:33 i thought that was english and i was trying so hard to make sense of what you said😂
Thanks for this video! Could you do an acceleration test 0-100 km/h, too?
Will you be testing e-2008? Be good if you can, very interested the tests that you will go thru with that car
Thank you. I think E-2008 is a more interesting car for the mass. Would love to see you test it too.
i did the 120 km/h test with corsa-e a few days ago. got 211 Wh/km after 100 km. 12°C temperature and dry conditions.
From A to point B and back to point A?
Det er so greit, tusen takk for testen Bjørn! Jeg håper å se en 1000km range (or rage?) test! :P
Watch the end of the video for a 120 km/h test.
Install a GPS odometer on your phone so you can see exactly how accurate the cars odometer is.
A lot of tunnels in Norway.. ;-)
That's what he does, note that he is crusing at 92km/h for the 90km/h test.
Could you show us how AppleCarPlay works and test Adaptive cruise control and Self-parking mode on the E-2008 ? : )
Yes
Hi Bjorn, i assume you have performed the tests in „normal“ Mode , right. ?
90 km/h is always done in eco mode or equivalent.
Finally!
How do you experience the noise level in the car campared to kia eniro? If the e-2008 (which I assume have about the same level as in 208) is better, than I think I prefer Peugeot over Kia, despite’s the way shorter range.
E2008 is a little quieter imo.
Great vid! Sub from me, looking forward to the other vids on this and the DS
Can you tell us what the route has been ?. To see the orography, height difference, etc.
ขอบคุณคร๊าบ sawaddee from Switzerland Krab. Peugeot looks very nice and very French
I got a new ICE new Peugeot 2008 instead for now. I wait for the cheaper Tesla. 😅😅😅😅😅
Firmly a city car. Why they called it a GT is anyone’s guess. Looks great but the low steering wheel isn’t good.
It's just the name of the top trim
Foxor83 It’s not particularly quick though?
Tagg That’s clear but it makes no sense to the phrase itself. It doesn’t make Peugeot look good.
Because they keep insisting in one single gear for E.V.s so it is fast 0/100 km/h but has a crap range...go figure, like going on a highway always in 2nd or 3rd gear. The electric motor is able to spin faster so it reaches the required speed but it is not eficient above 6000 rpm. Lazy Engineering, horrible performance and worst value. Only suitable for city driving!
The steering wheel setup i the same in all new Peugeot's, think they call iCocpit or something...
I really wish we got a car like this in the US. Unfortunately we won’t get any of these Peugeot/Citroen/Vauxhall/Opel small EVs, nor will we get the VW ID.3.
We need some small affordable EVs with range over 200 miles.
I really would just be happy if the US got any PSA models. It will be a miracle if COVID-19 and the PSA-FCA merger doesn’t put a kibosh on PSA’s plan to re-emerge in the US.
What I’d really like to see PSA offer is a 308 GTI electric. A hot hatch that’s also an EV with a range of 300 miles, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and a price less than $35,000.
With Stellantis you won't get any Peugeot or Citroen, but you will certainly get Chryslers built on the same platforms. I suspect that the future e3008 will be rebadged as a Chrysler for North America
Perhapes now after the update you should do it again.
I wanted to find out if the car shows the carging power in kW but you didn't show...
wished to have this size battery in my Ioniq, would be plenty
Wax on, wax off! This guy is a geneious!
I need minmum 230 kms range at 120 kms/h
when degradation 20% minus.... i think batery capacity for my 64 kwh!!
the next generation of peugeot perhaps....
Are we there yet... Oh we are 🤣
Was this tested in ECO driving mode?
Í dont know man but í dont like much this car when até you going to try the sexy Xpeng sedan?
why Tesla does not put the average of trip speed and all manufacturers do.
So you tested the range with almost 100% of charge. Is that realistic? I hear a lot about how EV batteries should not be charged up to 100%, it seems to have a negative impact on their lifespan. Also, as for the temperature, the range of EVs is the worst in winter, so testing at low temperatures would be more interesting than at higher temperatures.
Please do the banana box test with this car if you can do so.
He is probably recording it as we speak. At least that was his plan yesterday.
Done, 5 with seats up, an incredible 18 with them down, one more than the model 3.
Are the Peugeot E208, Citroen DS3 and Vauxhall / Opel Corsa-E basically the same car?
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