Orcs chanting at Helm's Deep (Bakshi)
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Ralph Bakshi's animated version of Lord of the Rings from 1978. The orcs do some kind of war chant just before the battle of Helm's Deep. Those silly horns kind of ruin any intimidating effect though...
I've seen a lot of people wondering what they are actually singing in this sequence. As far as I know (I won't claim to be an expert on orcish lyrics) it is just gibberish with words like "Sauron" and "Isengard" thrown in. So there are no english lyrics and no lyrics in the black speech either.
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"They have a good bass section, but no top tenors that's for sure."
Zulu?
I like this guy
"You think the Welsh can do better?"
Nice reference
You sir win the internet
Instead of war, The Uruk-hais should form a huge orchestra and touring. They would make great money.
only if they ditch the horns.
after helms deep they were going to have a football match with mordor, so thats why all the vuvuzelas
Ratcliff
The Middle Earth Olympic Games.
Isengard be rollin’ into the arena, blastin’ their national anthem like...
Ratcliff
Or indeed football.
If you think English hooligans are bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
Ratcliff An ORChestra, lol
Between this and 'Where There's A Whip, There's A Way", I think its safe to say that a lot of Orcish musical talent is being criminally overlooked.
I really hope that Ugluk gets around to releasing his full length album someday.
You don't just forget about 15 birds and get away with it
I hear it'll be called 'Meat on the Table', excited :D
@@oi6915
'15 Birds' has brought up some controversy in recent times.
Offended parties consider it to carry a racist message against dwarves... and birds.
@@Wavemaninawe Woke ass birds. What should we do, with the funny little things?
It'll be some killer doom metal. They'll really slay it.
I'm 26, and the orcs in this version legitimately creep me out. Many people have noted that the animation on them looks weird, crude and ugly, but I think they're missing the point. I reckon the creators tried to make them look as ominous and alien as they possibly could, and bloody hell did they succeed...the orcs in the Jackson movies are ugly and evil-looking to be sure, but they never managed to look this unsettling.
These look more like demonic shadow beings than living creatures. They kinda remind me of those creepy black ghost things from Spirited Away, but even worse. They're way scarier than the Nazgul in this version, if you ask me.
I've been told they ran out of money to animate everything. But yes, choosing to use a different animation style for the forces of mordor made them 10000000x scarier to my younger self. (sorry for responding to a year-old post)
The whole movie is way scarier than the Lotr Films I watched this at the age of 10 and it still gives me the creeps today
The "animation" is rotoscoping, they filmed it in live action and coloured it over to get this effect.
Let's be honest, this is awful.
Let's be honest, this is amazing.
This is inaccurate: tusken raiders are supposed to walk in straight lines to hide their number
This is a seriously underappreciated comment ^ ^
It's a dumb comment
Lol
Marry me
this is lord of the rings 1978
Isengard descend
All honor him
Our lord of Ruin
King Sauron
Leads in Mordor
(Repeat)
Isengard descend
All honor him
Our lord of ruin
King Sauron
Leads and seizes all rule in Mordor
did u look this up or is it just ur best guess?
Holy shit!
WELL BUGGER ME!
All this time I thought they were just chanting gibberish. Thank you dude
I was wondering what the lyrics were since when I was 5 (and now I'm 32 XD)
For all its flaws, this movie did a lot of things right.
Even if one thinks it looks wrong, no one can deny that it feels right.
"Morgoth dang it, Urgnash, put that dang vuvuzela away, you're ruining the effect!"
"Screw you, Bargash. The vuvuzela is mine and ill play it if I want!"
He can keep the vuvuzela, heil me!
Damm Snaga
I feel like the orcs in this version of Lord of the rings are so scary because they're part animated and part real. The half-finished rotoscoping makes everything kinda blur the lines between real and fake, and the real bodies in the presence of the animated landscapes gives an extreme uncanny feeling to the whole thing, not to mention the orc's lack of features by default. All you can see is their eyes and mouth. The lack of definitive details plays on our fear of the unknown, transforming a mortal body of flesh to a demonic creature of the dark places behind our eyes. This compounded with the sheer number of them gives birth to the feeling of utter dread as the impossibility of defense dominates your fragile confidence. They're unknown, otherworldly unstoppable forces coming to get you. Terrifying.
I had no idea that Orcs had such tremendous singing voices
They invaded Minas Morgul, because they wanted those sweet accoustics for their jam sessions.
Get enough people singing together, it'll sound good. Why do you think choirs are a thing?
They were Elves once...
@@sonofjack6286 So this is the orcish version of "you'll never walk alone"?
They've got a fine bass section, mind, but no top tenors, that's for sure. Oh, wait...that's the Zulus.
This freaked me out as a kid, some of them really look like Tusken Raiders also.
Obi Wan did say they'd be back in greater numbers😉
You realize this came out just a year or so after Star Wars right? Lucas got his ideas from Dune, Japanese films and Tolkein so its fitting someone uses a better design for lotr
Frisky Hunter don’t worry,we will send Anakin to slaughter them
I think this version came very close to what "orkish" music might be like in Tolkien's mind (though the good Professor likely would've shuddered at trying to envision such a thing). It's at the same time monotonous and discordant, as if the orks have heard music before and sorta have a vague idea of what it involves (make sounds with your mouth, bang drums, blow horns, try to make it fit together) but they're unable to go much beyond that, so to the ears of men and elves it just comes off as barbaric chanting and random instruments.
Also reminds me of the description of the Turkish armies by besieged Europeans, the Turks were the first (that we know of) to have military bands for troop morale, and the janissary bands struck such fear into the hearts of the Europeans that some were convinced it was the armies of hell itself marching against them.
This combo of animation and live-action is appropriately nightmarish.
My mom thought I was a little too young to see the Jackson movie in 2001 when it came out, so she showed me this instead....not the best logic I admit, but I loved it.
Yeah this movie was pretty good
my parents decided the Jackson movie was fine. I was 4 years old. wasn't scared or anything. Let's just say my parents are responsible for my obsession with middle-earth
Haha. That's a pretty cute story.
"Mom can we watch Lord of the Rings?" "We got Lord of the Rings at home"
@@ciukilp 4-6 year old was pretty scared by the LotR movies. Not that was a bad thing, far from it.
One of the greatest things about this movie is its atmosphere. It is horror-ish and dreamlike in some scenes. Overall a very dark film which really captures the evil of Sauron and the Ring. The Ring wraiths are superb (remember the first encounter the hobbits had with one? That was a terrifying wraith. And how they whisper come back come back to Mordor we will take you. amazing). And to reiterate some of the comments below, this scene looks as if Hell's forces are upon the men of Rohan. Jackson's version is amazing without a doubt, but it is missing this dark atmosphere that I truly love
This movie is a brilliant film and deserves more praise
Please tell me you are joking. The Ralph Bakshi version of LoTR is a total joke. Everything is low budget, and you can tell that they were running low on funds during the later part such as Helms Deep. The animation was horrid and sloppy, the characters look absurd, and there was no real consistency with the design of the dark races, and the actual characters.
Daniel Greco I am not joking and neither are most fans of this movie. The movie is ten times better than anything Jackson did with his movies. The animation and everything was done wonderfully, mixing real people with animation for rotoscoping and also he had a decent budget.
He chose a darker , grittier turn of things than Jackson and stuck to the book.
Ralph Bakshi knew what he was doing when making his movie
Daniel Greco They didn't run out of funds at that part also. That's where they decided to stop, his employees had families to go to also. Most who worked with him also knew him personally
charlie ricketts do you mean like the invisible cyborg Witch King?
I'm not usually a fan of rotoscoping, but man, this looks awesome. Easily the most intimidating iteration of Sauron's forces to me.
If I remember correctly for these kind of scenes they didn't use rotoscoping.
I forgot how the method was called and how it worked, but Folding Ideas made a video about the behind tje scenes of this movie and he explain the technique
@@voctur I think Bakshi called it 'painting on film' -- It's related to rotoscoping, they basically paint over the live action, the the 70s equivalent of motion capture. A cruder form of it was used in "Wizards"
Imagine orcs chanting this in proper orc voices like in Jackson's film. Would be cool if someone organized a remake of this, even if only audio, and then make a clip of Jackson's orcs marching to the song.
I like to imagine the silly horns being replaced with all the clangs from the Orcs' armor. Then as they get louder, we can't even hear the clanging anymore.
@@dragonstormx Honestly? I kind of like having the horns mixed in, maybe just make them deeper, less brass instruments and more like repurposed animal horns, making an almost more ominous droning sound behind the marching, and the wardrums and chanting
@@kabutoisgay So like the horns used by the villains in Jackson's LOTR trilogy? Those were plenty threatening.
@@dragonstormx yeah exactly!
@@dragonstormx this is a great idea dudes
orc chant while advancing toward helms deep < small goblins/orcs singing with the sound of a whip cracking in the background
Y'know.....where there's a way, there's a whip XD
Where there's a whip, there's a way!
We don’t wanna go to war today, but the lord of the lash says nah nah nah!
That was lowkey pretty fucking scary
This is actually pretty fucking badass!
Get pumped for battle everyone! Get out those kazoo warhorns!
Would have loved to see a sequel to this, think of what Ralph baskhis Shelob would look like that would be terrifying.
rankin bass did a sequel
Yeah but look how that one turned out............
(If we don't speak of it, the more we shall forget about it, and that's all for the better)
Charlie Theanteater its not as bad as people make it out to be, its better than that hobbit tv show that came out in the same period of time
that would be just awesome just want to see the battle of minas tirith in that version
Jack the critic yeah but the hobbit cartoon was made for children and so was the book, so the silly tone of the cartoon fits perfectly.
Personally I think the rankin bass 1977 hobbit cartoon was pretty good (it may just be my nostalgia getting the Better of me though) the voice acting is mostly well done, and the songs are actually memorable unlike the 1980 return of the king. Overall it’s a goofy little rakin bass movie and was actually my introduction to the story of the hobbit.
Return of the king on the other hand was a story that Toilken did not intend for children to read, and it shows in the rakin bass cartoon.
They take dark scenes (like the witch king confronting Gandalf the white, or Gollum biting Frodo’s finger off) and they add their own 80’s cheesy style to it. (Seriously what’s up with the witch kings voice? He sounds like skeletor)
The songs don’t fit the tone at all, (while granted there were a lot of songs in the book, and though they were pretty awkwardly placed there at least they weren’t full blown musical numbers like the rakin bass version does)
Something I can give rakin bass credit for is the animation, you can tell that the animators are giving their all to this project and it shows (the battle scenes have improved tremendously from the hobbit cartoon)
The main problem was the rakin bass cartoon is that it skips over many events in the story, so if you had just watched Ralph Baskhis version before this you’d be like
“Wait why is Frodo in that tower? Or why is Gandalf at minias trith?, where did Gollum go I thought he was guiding Frodo and Sam, what happened to the tunnel Gollum was talking about?, what the hell happened to Legolas and Gimli, why are orcs attacking Gondor?, who’s the witch king?, why’s pippin with Gandalf and merry with Rohan?, wait why are there men fighting for suraon now?, how’d Sam get the ring?”
What I like about these orcs is that rather than seeming to be an army of grotesque brutes, it seems like an army of demons, especially in this scene. Everything about it seems hellish and foreboding. While the jackson film was good at showing the threat it meant to the people of Minas Tirith, here the very atmosphere makes the orcs much more intimidating.
While Jackson's versions are superior, this scene always makes me feel so intimitated. I feel like the humans at helm's deep are facing the forces of hell from the biblical stories rather than a bunch of brutish orcs.
+baranguirus its fitting that these orcs seem demonic. Didnt Tolkien get the term orc from an old english word for demon?
Really? I didn't know that. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info.
charlie ricketts I think he did,as wiki and lotr fan wiki are saying,orcs are horrible and miserable demonic beings.
+Phantom's Eye Stop trolling. This film was okay, but nothing as good as Jackson's films. You just refuse to take off rose colored glasses. You can't even see these orcs. If yo watch the entire Bakshi movie, you well never get an idea of what an orc looks like. And I'm all for telling and not showing, but one of the primary antagonists in the whole series? They need to be shown. I wouldn't say you are trolling except you have made several comments on how this version is better. I agree, it leaves out the sillier parts (Legolas using a shield to slide down stairs while he shoots orcs comes to mind, as does the elven reinforcements), but has even more silly parts like Boromir in a spiked helmet, tunic, and no pants? Now THAT is silly. Took me right out of the story. Oh, and Sam. Jesus Christ, poor Samwise Gamgee.
I kind of like that you never get a really good look at what these orcs actually look like.
Isengard descend
All honor him
Our lord of ruin,
King Sauron, he's in Mordor!
Is what they sing...
Nope. They're not speaking English at all. According to composer Leonard Rosenman's notes in the CD booklet for the 2001 reissue, the orcs are singing a language of his own invention (including his own name backwards at some points). There isn't any English translation for it.
I will say this, though; this is easily one of the creepiest, most foreboding pieces of music ever written for film.
Reid Mason I personally like these lyrics better. It shows their fanatical devotion to the Dark Lord.
Thanks dude!!!
i don't care what anyone think.they are singing the lyrics that Jus7fish said.it even fits if you listen.maybe it's a made up language but the lyrics fit.
You hear it because you read it. The principle is the same for backmasking. When you play KISS backwards it's just gibberish, but because somebody told you the gibberish says "Lord Satan oh Satan I love you" you hear those words. I call it suggested hearing, but there has to be a better name for it.
Terrifying yet a Beautiful song!
Franklin J. Ells yes.
Not beautiful, as in ear-candy. The beauty lies in its' ability to communicate what is about to happen. It is meant to intimidate. In a word, gorgoroth.
Just the sound of the chant, combined with the gloomy eyes glowing through the fog sends shivers down my spine...
I remember when this video had 5 stars. 😂
Though this film is far from the perfection of the Jackson version, I can't help but admit Bakshi did a few awesome things in that film: and this scene is one of them.
The slow motion crap every time Frodo looked at the ring was far from perfection.
Crabby Old Gamer You think so? Well, I admit the LOTR saga wasn't perfect from beginning to end, but as a whole, it was really a masterpiece, especially when you look at all the risks Jackson and his team were taking.
I saw this movie when I was 13 in 1978 when it first came out. This film made me a LOTR fan-Forever
Jackson made LOTR a goofy circus. His trilogy is nowhere near the perfection of this dark, atmospheric animation.
As Christopher Tolkien said in an interview in French, Jackson took a great work of literature and turned it into an action movie for 16 year-old boys. Bakshi's version is far from perfect, but it has greater heights than Jackson's popcorn churner.
The obvious inspiration for this scene is Teutons/Livons chanting before battle in Sergey Eisenstein's "Alexandr Nevsky", 1938
The horns do not ruin anything!
Agreed. The uploader's comments are supercilious drivel.
Their disonnance is purposeful, since orcs are incapable of creating beautiful things (including sounds). This is the best moment in the whole Bakshi film. The melody in G-minor is haunting and chilling.
Yes. The medieval calling horns are actually truer to the book, likewise with officers and scout riders using a handful of horses as opposed to wargs (which were actually used for attack animals primarily).
@@GrizrazRex Dissonant? They sound like they're playing cheap plastic trumpets badly out of tune, lol. It honestly sounds like they're playing the old woodwind instrument the cornett.
Agreed. This was almost perfect. Still, one can only imagine if they had deeper voices, the horns were lower pitched. It most definitely would have been a legitimate horror movie, but it would only have perfected this scene.
Teacher: Alright everyone. This year we’re going to take a field trip to the Renaissance fair.
Girls: OMG! That’s so lame!
Boys:
I never realized how much they resemble Tusken Raiders
The Orcs singing here along with the scenery isn’t entirely book inaccurate.
“The rumour of war grew behind them. Now they could hear, borne over the dark, the sound of harsh singing. They had climbed far up into the Deeping-coomb when they looked back. Then, they saw torches, countless points of fiery light upon the black fields behind, scattered like red flowers, or winding up from the lowlands in long flickering lines. Here and there a larger blaze leapt up.”
- The Two Towers, Helm’s Deep
Let's be real, if you were a Rohirrim and standing guard on the walls of the Hornburg and saw this coming at you...
It wouldn't matter how tough or brave you were, or how many battles you already fought, you'd crap yourself, cry like a a baby, and run for the hills shouting "f- this shit" all along the way!
Honestly I don't think battle hardened men of Rohan would be scared by Kazoos and singing Tusken Raiders
@@harrywalsh7276 nah, they would
@@kotorandcorvid4968 They might be scared, but they would stand their ground.
I mean, what is their response to giant 30foot tall war elephants?
CHARGE!
These troops always pass their morale check.
@@hoodatdondar2664On that, I agree
The Uruk-hai are orcs, in the same way that the Valar and Maiar are both Ainur. With the exception of Sam, and leaving aside all the other strange interpretations of characters (and pronunciations!) I thought the film was really great within its limitations- and as a kid, yes- the orcs were scary (especially Grisnakh!)
TBH those horns make it 10x creepier, they're very disorienting and eerie
Precisely the point. They are evocative of the biblical shofar. Their calls are dissonant to the sung war march, which underscores Tolkien's premise that orcs cannot create beautiful things.
Why didn't you finish Bakshi? This was great! I really wish we could see ROTK in this style. (sigh) Ah well, I still love Jackson's films.
Well there was a Rankin Bass return of the king but that's sucked ass
Bakshi blew his budget out of the proportion during the filming of the first half of this movie, and that's why they even had to cut corners and make a few over colored live action scenes to make the ends meet at least a touch more, and he had to cut it to the end of Helms Deep. The movie was also box office flop back in the 70's, so no-one ever even touched on the subject of sequel. These days we'd all hope he did, but it's a sad fact that there was just no way back in the day. But at least we got this, which wasn't granted given the overblown budget and backer withdrawal. :)
MrBagginsEsq because the film was a financial flop
MrBagginsEsq there was a huge argument between Bakshi and the studio. The original plan was to finish the trilogy, in separate parts. When it was time to be released Bakshi was like "hey guys lets call this Lotr part 1 so everyone knows that it isn't the entire trilogy." and the studio was like "well that's dumb why would anyone come see half a film?" and so they did not call it part 1. So in theaters when the film abruptly ended everyone got mad and Bakshi was like *FACEPALM* So initially everyone was excited for the film. There's probably other factors but this decision not to call it part 1 actually played a decent sized role in its downfall. Its a shame cause I actually love this film, despite its flaws.
Tbh the movie was never a financial flop. From Wikipedia (not the most reliable of the sources but still): The Lord of the Rings was a financial success.[25] The film grossed $30.5 million at the box office,[3] based on a $4 million budget.[3]
This is what I imagine the armies of Muspelheim would look like when they march to join Loki in Ragnarok.
Well, then it is settled: I prefer this over the one-millionth stereotypized Orc from any computer game of the past 30 years, any day.
i like how these orcs are creepy and menacing, not just brutish and ugly
I think this is their big menacing scene. I find them kinda awkward in other scenes.
This is the best part of the film, apart from the hobbits getting chased by ring wraiths in the beginning.
Watch this when I was young. So many great battles I fought with my friends becuse of this movie
Liked this part of the movie, gives me chills even now, over a decade and a half later. I would NOT want to be facing an army chanting like that coming after me.
Side-note: Everyone's saying that the kazoos/annoying trumpets/horns kill the song. People, I just had an epiphany: Those aren't trumpets they're using.....they're the Middle-Earth version of Vuvuzelas! Orc-made ones at that, so they sound even worse in quality of sound!
these orcs mean business!
I don't know, I thought they looked quite terrifying.
The Uruk Hai and the orcs in the Peter Jackson version looked twice as awesome.
Oliver Fyffe You're completely right. But, of course Peter Jackson's version didn't come out in 1978, so I think the comparison is a bit unfair.
I actually know that because I read the Wikipedia page.
Oliver Fyffe I think this is much more terrifying because it still leaves how they look in detail to your imagination. Not to mention it has that movie Alien feel to it in where less visual is more.
DMalenfant1 I do agree. The orcs in Jackson's were ugly and in-your-face. No mystery as to who or what exactly they were.
The best animated movie of my childood.
The horns add to it, image if you are a defender and you hear that then see the thousands of Orcs coming towards you all chanting, you moral is going to take a plunge. This is terrific.
Oh man,I remember this scaring the living shit out of me when I was a kid.
In the Peter Jackson movie the Uruk Hai were intimidating marching, but their chanting sounded more like roaring and grunting. These Uruk Hai actually sound like they're speaking language.
Love this film!
So this is what Hell looks like...
You can just feel the dread in that chanting. It's awesome.
This part still gives me chills. I wish they had given the orcs a similar marching song in the new movies.
Rotoscoping is cartoon but it does give you a boost instead of drawing by hand.
this is probably my most favorite scene in the whole film. I know there are a lot of problems with the film and it wasn't THAT successfyl, but still. I LOVE this movie. Personally, I love the animation and it is pretty good for that time. I have been watching it since I was little and I will always love it.
This entire cartoon gave me nightmares! 😭
I just want to know how did these orcs learn how to sing? They got some musical talent here.
The Mordor tabernacle choir, of course.
MrRelytHtims And the funny thing is that they're from Isengard
I don't get it... Isengard Uruks are only loyal to Sauraman, not Sauron so I wonder why they called Sauron "King"?
Wesley Hsu Saruman is calling Sauron his master so I guess that all his forces are royal also to the Eye
misster490 I know that Sauron is Saruman's master but they Uruks only answer to Saruman. They never care about Sauron nor do they take orders from any leaders of Mordor whom they call maggots.
Even though I love the Jackson films and they are superior in every aspect to Bakshi's version, I can't help but admire some of the unique touches in this version with scenes like this. Seeing this scene makes me wish they would've done Return of the King instead of Rankin Bass, would've love to have seen them handle the Pelennor Fields battle, Shelob, Minas Tirith, and the Black Gate battle.
Would have been better than the Rankin Bass version, that’s for sure.
@@WorldWar2freak94 yes definitely
I wish so much that Bakshi had done return of the king and not Rankin bass
Watching that movie was strait up torture for me
These animated Lotr films are cheesy as hell and frankly in some aspects awful. But damn when they got it right, they got it right
I dont understand why people treat these movies as if they are master pieces compared to Peter Jacksons LOTR.
@@lordheck3170 I never said they were superior, that’s absolute hearsay. But there are some legitimately impressive elements in here. However there’s only a few of them, the rest is garbage
@@lordheck3170 I could tell you why, but just by asking you succesfully proved you wouldn't understand.
@@charlietheanteater3918 Was not suggesting that you were. I was just saying. I do agree though, while ive never seen the animated, the scenes I've seen on CZcams. Some of them are actually neat.
@@deadendkido Explain my guy. Im open minded.
this theme captures the orcs menace perfectly
Say what you want about the Bakshi movie, but you have to admit, the stuff he got right, he got freaking right. It’s a shame we never got a part two to this movie, since I would’ve loved to see how he would tackle the battle of Minas Tirith. Oh, I almost forgot, Rankin/bass. That’s right, they did Return of the King. I’m sure they followed up on what Bakshi left off on.
“Where there’s a whip, there’s a way!
Where’s there’s a whip, there’s a way...”
Never mind, this right here is the only animated lord of the rings in my opinion.
Their Hobbit was good but Return of the King just left me desiring Bakshi actually getting to do part 2
oi If you watch return of The king to see what happened after the Bakshi film, you are going to be dissapointed. Rankin/Bass wanted to cover the whole quadrilogy in 2 movies, and this seemed like the best bet. When I marrathon these film I watch The Hobbit, The return of The king and then the Bakshi film.
My favorite moment from this beautiful film. Wish they put this chant in Jackson’s version
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Wtf can you imagine the Uruk Hai in Jackson's version singing this bullshit
@@harrywalsh7276 True. But imagine them singing this in the deeper and more bassy voices they have in the movies.
I like the Erie-ness to the animation, the rotoscoping makes it almost real looking.
Can anyone make a 10 hour version of this??? :D
This reminds me of a novel I read where a Roman legion has to fight an army of orcs while defending a city. One of the best fantasy novels I ever read.
Damn those Orcs have some Gregorian vocals
I was traumatized by these scenes when I was a kid
I watched this years ago, and let's just say it got TOO real for me!
there actually Uruk-hai not orcs
+XetraVooom I actually don't remember if the Uruk-hai are present at all in Bakshi's movie, seeing how these orcs look very much like the ones in Moria. In the books I think it was a mix of Uruk-hai, regular orcs and humans.
There aré none uruk hai in this film 😕
+JoenSo Also, Uruk-Hai are a type of Orc.
Uruk-Hai are goblin and orc breed, created by saurman to be better and smatter then orcs, and there resistant to light
+XetraVooom No, they're not. If you're only basing your understanding on the movies, give up.
yeah this wasn't horrifying to little kids.......
There's nothing wrong with making the villains menacing. Don't be so sheltered.
HeavyMetalHindu
im all for menacing and scary, but this is a liiiiiitle too much.
Spellbinder
Black silhouettes with red eyes and fangs, oooh, 2sp00py4me
HeavyMetalHindu
no i mean the whole thing, the atmosphere the music the singing all of it together is what makes it be what it is, not just the orcs themselves.
Spellbinder Bakshi's work wasn't really meant for children, which is kind of why.
Who knew orcs had such great voices!
While the Peter Jackson films are superior, this scene from the animated film is well done. It has great atmosphere and gives the Army of Isenguard a terrifying presence. It would have been cool if the more recent films included this as a little tribute to the first time Lord of the Rings was on the big screen.
Yes it make the orc so mutch more horrifying, walking slowly and singing in a disciplined manner, insted of "crazy animals" charge.
@@kirgan1000 Jackson's Helms Deep March is based on the film Zulu. I do wish that he'd included the eerie atmosphere and orcish chant of this film, but for the life of me I don't think he'd have been able to merge the two together into any coherent piece of cinema. I would love to see Bakshi finish LOTR in his own image, but I'm not even sure if he's still alive.
This song is so delightfully dark, and I love it!
this was my first amazon mp3 purchase lol so epic
I remember watching this at Christmas as a kid whilst the adults were getting pissed off their tits. Love it.
I guess it's more fitting that we do not hear the Orcs sing/chant in Peter Jackson's trilogy. But could you imagine if this was in The Two Towers; the heavy footsteps mixed with the clanging of armor, orcs bashing their crude and cruel looking swords on rusted and iron wrought shields in tune to this? Dark flags stream in the wind with white palms on the center cling to spears and pikes topped with the skulls of animals and man. In the center of the vast army is a great and terrible ebony banner with a crimson eye; showing the true allegiance of the Orcs of Isengard.
Ok
I'm pretty sure sauron just like singing an wants to rule the earth with his sick beats
This film traumatized me as a little kid, i did not understand any of it. I tried to tell my parents but didn't have the language skills. Ironic that lotr is so dear to me now
i do love this scene , the orcs in their dark glory, always wandered what those other beings were amoung them that were wrapped up like mummies and had wild hair... i can only guess the haradrim
This film, unlike what the majority of poeple believe, was not a totally "flop". According to what we can see in Wikipedia: The Lord of the Rings was a financial success.[25] The film grossed $30.5 million at the box office,[3] based on a $4 million budget.[3]
This is the only time in any fantasy media an orc is depicted riding horses.
The orcs and goblins are the reason the Bakshi LOTR films are musicals.
The juxtaposition of the wimpy little horn with the dark and ominous imagery is just
Every time I read his bits, I feel like there might be some historical inspiration behind the character of the Mouth of Sauron as well... his motives, words, and so on.
I don’t think that the bugles ruin it too much. I think they give the sense that despite the hellish nature of the Uruk Hai, they’re still efficient enough to have military tact.
Great song for a great animated movie !!
This is more unsettling than the Jackson one because they look so ominous
I really wish they had finished this
Actually the singing of the Uruk-Hais in this 1978-Version of _"The Lord of the Rings"_ sounds as if it was inspired by Carl Orff's _"Carmina Burana"_. I never noticed that before.
It is clearly inspired by the Teutons in Eisenstein's "Alexandr Nevsky" (1938)
@What' Ev It's a classic movie about the war of Slavic kingdoms against Teutonic order invasion.
Here is one of the fragments for comparison:
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@What' Ev Have you watched the link? 1242 year, it was written in the beginning
@What' Ev czcams.com/video/O4nbSsLwyj8/video.html I time stamped it to the best moment, but you can watch from beginning if you want.
The real "uruk-hai chant" vibe starts at 4:20
@What' Ev The knights did actually drown under the ice later in the movie (and in actual historic battle). The reconstruction is okay for the early era of cinema, and of course a lot of Soviet propaganda here.
Men: This is terrifying!
Uruks (weeping): Such beautiful words.
Seriously, I'm pooping myself even now.
Chills.
Scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid, and still chilling, cartoon was way more atmospheric than Jackson's movies.
The first LOTR film I saw when I was young, and gods these orcs did freaked me out back then (still now).
In the distant future of Middle Earth, the Orc equivalent of the Hu go on tour.
The sounds of the enemy
I used a Black Speech translator on this song,(translator was black speech page on tolkien gateway) I got this: Orcs will kill the men of Rohan, the fires of war kill all, hail lord sauron, king of mordor.
Thank you!
It's unlikely that orcs would ever use the name sauron since he forbade his name ever being spoken or written
The Uruk-Hai are Saruman's troops. They may not follow the same traditions as their newfound Mordor ally.
Isengard Descend
All honour Him
Our Lord of Ruin
Is Sauron, He's in Mordor
Shane Fee but the orcs are not under saurons command
Well they are a force of evil and war, it seems fitting.
This scared the shit out of me as a kid.