NORDSCHLEIFE Full Track Guide + FREE Comparison Data, Setup and Hotlap
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Simracing is difficult. Learning how to drive fast takes time, dedication and persistence. Assetto Corsa Competizione is one of the best simulations with highly sensitive aerodynamics that want to be respected. Telemetry, such as motec helps with analyzing car behavior and finding major issues in the car setup or driving style. Special sim racing hardware also helps with becoming better, but certainly is not the solution to your problems. Load cell pedals offer better feel. Stronger but most importantly more detailed force feedback of e.g. direct drive wheels offer more immersive sensations. Though I know and I've seen throughout the years, people with entry level hardware perform on top level.
Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:21 T1-2 GP
00:03:01 New Chicane GP
00:04:21 Entry Nurb
00:06:41 Sabine Schmitz Corner
00:07:36 Hatzenbach 1
00:09:46 Hatzenbach 2
00:15:46 Flugplatz / Airfield
00:16:58 Schwedenkreuz & Aremberg
00:19:01 Fuchsröhre (Foxhole) & Adenauer Forst
00:21:53 Metzgesfeld
00:24:08 Kallenhard
00:27:00 Dreifach Rechts / Triple Right
00:29:45 Wehrseifen / something Soap
00:32:26 Breitscheid
00:33:22 Ex-Muehle (Old Mill)
00:36:10 Bergwerk (Mine)
00:38:46 Mutkurve (Courage Corner)
00:40:06 Steilstrecke / Steep Route
00:41:12 Karussell / Carousel
00:42:40 Hohe Acht
00:43:25 Hedwigshöhe
00:44:11 Wippermann
00:45:09 Eschbach
00:47:57 CZcams Corner
00:49:15 Eiskurve / Ice Corner
00:50:32 Pflanzgarten 1 / Garden 1
00:51:29 Sprunghügel / Jump
00:51:53 Pflanzgarten 2 / Garden 2
00:52:00 Schwalbenschwanz / Swallow Tail
00:53:01 Kleines Karussell / Small Carousel
00:53:58 Galgenkopf / Gallow Head
00:55:02 Döttinger Höhe
00:55:14 Tiergarten
00:55:22 Hohenrain
00:57:28 FULL HOTLAP - Hry
I love these "lap analysis" style of videos instead of simple "do this in this corner" guides. Very informative, a lot to digest. Thanks!
Quote of the video: "don't be scared, it will be ok" or similar. :D
Honestly - The best Nordschleife trackwalk I've ever seen.
Super Guide Nils. Wer wenig Erfahrung hat findet hier richtig viele Informationen und Anhaltspunkte.
Man muss fairerweise sagen, dass die Nordschleife erstmal eine grundlegende Abstimmung vom Auto voraussetzt ansonsten wird es für viele Anfänger frustrierend, wenn sie es mit Basis- oder vermuksten Setups versuchen. Als ich sie in ACC das erste Mal gefahren bin waren 8:30 nur mit Mühe zu schaffen. Das Auto ist gesprungen, hat untersteuert, schlecht gebremst, oder wilde Snaps an der Hinterachse bekommen.
Ordenlich Rake, Federrate runter, Dämpfer an zwei drei Slidern mal um 15 Punkte geklickt (also schon drastische Unterschiede zum Standard) und schon waren es 8:15 also direkt -15 Sekunden nur durch ein paar Klicks ins Blaue ... aha doch nicht zu blöd zum Fahren!
Das war dann mein Basissetup von dem ich mich nach unten gearbeitet habe, weil man damit die Passagen so wie in deinem Video fahren konnte, halt teilweise mit etwas weniger Schwung.
Unter 8:11 komme ich allerdings noch immer nicht mit meinem Setup. Egal, macht dennoch Spaß.
Vielen Dank
Free nordschleife data pack is actually incredible. We could not ask for more. Not to mention this is a really good nordschleife track guide and in just 1 hour! Also love your commentary - Don't lift! YOU WILL DIE! :D
"You can even touch the grass there..."
Come on, Nils, you know simracers never touch grass!
Only 1 hour? I'm utterly disappointed and my day is ruined.🙄
48:05 I call it the CZcams corner too 😂 Everytime I drive past it I think, "If I crash now I'd end up in a Nürburgring compilation if this was real life"
You got the best track guides, if the viewer has the time. Maybe a bit much for the most casual drivers, but very much worth it for anyone trying to push their lap times down.
One thing I've noticed is that quite often the "pro break markers" actually work well for me as well, because I don't have quite the entry speed to the corners so they balance each other quite nicely.
As someone who has many many laps around the green hell I thought I knew it but ACC version has so many little details. Amazing guide plus with the Porsche sets hopefully I can get below the 8:20 mark soon. Cheers Nils
Which Porsche setup you like better. I assume you are your popometer setup from Nils?
Super Hilfe für die Nordschleife. Sowas von schwierig, die Strecke einigermaßen zu beherrschen. Ich hönge bei lachhaften 8.45. Klasse Guide von einem der besten Fahrer im simracing. Vielen Dank.
Thanks Nils - This track is intimidating. Your guide will help as I slowly get to grips with this very unforgiving monster. I think in the long run I will very much enjoy it as once I get a track down I'm super consistent. But this one will take time.
Trying to memorise this track is quite intimidating, so this video is much appreciated, thanks!
Pro: "Don't brake where the Pro's brake, give yourself 5 metres of margin, you'll lose less than a tenth"
My degenerate brain: "I'm going to brake 5 metres after the Pro's brake..." 😅
Great guide though, well worth watching the whole thing 👍
Golden track guide I'm going to recommend this to people thanx Nils
Yayy i was waiting for this! Given that now I lap the Nords in 8: 35 in the Porsche I think I'll watch this video a few hundred times :D. Grazie!
awesome work Nils - as always!
Danke für den mega geilen Guid! Hat mir persönlich sehr weitergeholfen. Hast das so gut erklärt das mir die Stunde wie 20 Minuten vorkamen😃
Love it! Thank you! ❤❤❤
19:22 sturtzgefahr, "true for cars, as well" 😂
🤣"It's going to kind of move a bit around in that corner, don't be scared of that. It's going to be fine...most of the time."🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅
But he's true, feels like you have no grip and everything shakes but you have grip anyway, pretty cool corner to take 😅
@@snippidippi yeah I know, I died there multiple trying to correct the car before I realized….it will be fine….most of the time. I just thought it was funny.
Thank you Nils. So much to learn for NOS. Werd Ich wohl noch einige Male anschauen müssen
am besten einfach fahren fahren fahren :) bis man nicht mehr von den plötzlichen kurven überrascht wird :D
@@NWGJulian oder irgendwelche bodenwellen und curps 😅
Danke Nils! :)
Thank you, now learning of this track will be much easier :) Finally entering green hell :)
Damn i just did a hotlap session on Ferrari and had like 08:17, but damn now Im excited for tomorrow to try that bmw and to finally understand Nordschleife after your guide😅 thanks a lot for that
not too bad lap time for a start
Hab gehofft dass dieses video 3 stunden geht 😂
Nils amazing guide! When you brake in a tight corner. Is the initial braking very hard then trail off slightly? For me it’s trying to slow down and get the trail braking right. The car was to oversteer out of the corner or basically going to wide coming out.
OMG... How do I get over Schwedenkreuz without dying 😢.
Half lift, 30 lift, 25 lift, 10 lift, flat out...all resulting in spectacular death.
Setup makes a huge difference in that corner for me. I need an understeery setup there, if it's pointy and good elsewhere before that on the lap, then it's 50-50 killing me in that corner. With a good, stable setup I have confidence to go through there, even though the car will always be moving around due to the small undulations during the corner.
I was expecting a min 5h Track Guide... A little bit disappointed.
Just kidding - excellent as always! Damn this is going to be a grind for me
Moin Nils,
zu dem Curb bei 13:00 bzw. dem Bump dahinter hab ich schon öfters von Rennfahrern gehört, dass man den curb ganz extrem nehmen soll oder gar nicht und man dadurch dann dieser Bodenwelle ausweichen kann. Habe das auch selber schon etwas probiert, aber frage mich wie sich das bei den top Fahrern widerspiegelt. Für mich funktioniert das, aber inwiefern verliert man dadurch potenziell Zeit?
It's funny, at 34.22 as the turn is explaind, there is a "oneway" sign on the left. 😅
And as usual, fantastic video.💪🏻😎
Yes because there is also a track entry before "Ex-mühle" for tourist drives (or atleast it was) and so people know to go right :D
grEat thanks
Super Video! Jetzt noch eine Kaufversion mit Zeitmarken bzw. Kurvennamen und alles ist perfekt! Würde ich kaufen!
sind eigentlich unten in der description. weiß gar nicht warum CZcams die nicht einpflegt
Ok, sorry, hatte ich zunächst nicht gesehen, da YT die nicht angezeigt hatte. Nun ist alles mehr als perfekt! Wirklich tolles Video, wo man unheimlich viel lernen kann!
Just got the series s acc version, was ace on Forza at the Green Mile but struggling on this, not the GP version, yeah could use the line but don't want so any tips appreciated
great video. Lots of valeuable informations for a casual driver like me. I've not had much success in the last few days running ACC/Nord. I was better on AC/Nord (understood the circuit better) so definetely this is of great help....... by the way would you be willing to sell me , say 10 - 15% of your driving talent 😈 not your soal just 10 -15% ? And thank you for your offer on popometer with the M6.
How do you get that drone view during replays where you are zooming in and out in any direction?
F7! then move around with arrow keys (or was it WADS?). mouse wheel controls speed
thanks for this guide🙏; if you add a "00:00:00 Example" time stamp in the description it'll integrate your chapters into the video player
I know, I had it done. at least in my head
I figured you knew how to convert Key Moments into Chapters, I just felt compelled to comment 👌
ah now i know what you mean. i thought i forgot all chapters entirely :D but i just missed the 0:00 for a start. i hope it works now :D
Ist das Setup auch empfehlenswert für die Nordschleife Permit der LFM? Man müsste natürlich mehr tanken, damit es für 3 Runden reicht. Ansonsten super cooles Video, bei dem viele Detailfragen geklärt werden, über die viele andere gar nicht sprechen. 😁👍
ja, das sollte passen. ansonsten das heck noch einen millimeter tiefer oder hinten weniger stabi
Hi Nils, is it possible to create a data pack for nordschleife with BMW M2 in Popometer? There is no Data Set ...
Am i doing something wrong? you are driving the M4 but the setup you liniked is for the M6? maybe im clicking the wrong link?
it's on purpose. I can't share M4 for free without taking away from other creators on the platform.
that's a compromise we could do. the lines and timings for inputs (for the most part) however in any car are really the same, so whatever you drive you can still compare to the M6 data
20:36 BS Competition Stripes :D
Ja bist du... geile sache, aber ich glaub den schau ich mir auf 3 oder 4 mal an. Ich die schlafe zwar in und auswendig aber schaden kann es nie😅 bwt. kommt von dir auch mal ein komplettes Setup Paket für den BMW M4 GT3 raus? 😬
das bundle gibt es ja, nur nicht von mir, und kommt auch nicht. ist einfach eine teamleistung und wiersma macht einen guten job
Ist das verlinkte setup wirklich für den M6? Das wäre ja ein Träumchen, ich liebe den Koffer.
jo. aber man merkt ihm das Alter schon an
@@SimracingPopometer da ich niemals nie in irgendeinem Top Split mit fahren werde, ist das eigentlich egal, Hauptsache ein ordentliches Setup um mit dem M6 wieder spaß haben zu können. Wird heute Abend direkt getestet, danke für nostalgische Stunden.
das ist auf "laptime" getrimmt, aber wenn du vorne die feder nochmal einen click härter machst, wirds nochmal stabiler falls nötig! Oder hinten stabis runter!@@Heckenpenner9878
Great video - but on video M4 - setup in comments you shared is for M6
yes, I can't share our teams M4 Setup
So why Title Misleading Free Setup ? 😂
@@LVNona69 you can't deny it's free
@@LVNona69 hahah entitled much! 😂
Man, I'm really struggling to figure out how to tune setups all of a sudden. I made one for the M4 at Nürburgring 24H which was pretty sensible - soft but not overly soft, low-ish rake and wing, moderate bump stop ranges so there isn't too much pitching forward on the brakes etc. The front aero variation is -3%. But it seemed to struggle a lot with high speed understeer, like at Flügplatz where I'd have to back off the throttle to around 220kph or even lower on a fast track. I lose a lot at Mutkurve too. I then tried a generic meta setup with everything super soft but with max wing and 94-70mm ride height, and the aero variation isn't much higher at -2.6%, but I can do more like 230-233kph through Flügplatz with max fuel even before the tyres are up to temp. It's easier to drive *everywhere* too, even though I thought super soft meant unstable and therefore was only suited to aliens. The rear bump stop range is maxed, the front ARB is maxed, the wing is maxed and the preload is at minimum, but I can somehow rotate more *on* the throttle. I thought maybe the difference was from the lower rear toe or something instead...
So I just took my setup and simply set the ride height to 94-70mm and the wing to max, with nothing else changed. It still does 230kph+ through Flügplatz with max fuel 😂 I went down even more to 90-70mm ride height with max wing so the aero variation was even farther back at -3.3%, and I was still going 10kph faster than I did with low wing. I went back to my setup but reduced wing down to 2 with the ride height at 77-70mm meaning the aero variation was identical to the softer setup at -2.6%, so there should be even less understeer, but I still had to slow down to about 220kph.
This doesn't make any sense. I'm turning in and lifting at the same point (the lower wing doesn't really increase top speed much), but it just won't rotate at the same speed. I swear max wing shouldn't even make sense on the Nordschleife anyway? The M4 isn't exactly unstable at high speed with low wing... it just won't turn 🥴 surely rake shouldn't have more of an impact than wing at higher speeds, especially if the low wing setup has less rear downforce?
Am I just being stupid and missing something really obvious here? Because I was under the impression that low wing = centre of gravity moves forward = less high speed understeer. Thanks for being patient with my stupid, confused noob rants lol. I'm getting faster, starting out struggling to set valid laps and hanging around the 8:26 mark with full fuel to more like 8:15, and being more consistent with it. But I don't know how to optimise my setup if it seems to be doing the opposite of what I thought.
thats alot of writing!
perhaps check my mustang video, where I explain how the aero map of the Ford works (which is near identical to the bmw).
@@SimracingPopometer thanks man. I thought the BMW was unusually balanced with its weight distribution towards the middle compared to other front engine cars though, so it's more agile? I tried the Mustang for the first time earlier and... wow. It felt horrible 😂 it makes the AMG feel like a dainty ballerina.
As you alluded to in that Mustang video, the rake is going to impact lower speed stuff more. That's what I thought I understood already. The BMW feels great everywhere except for the highest speed corners, where it's more understeery unless I use 20mm+ rake and max wing. It's just weird 😔 I thought maybe toe, bump stop ranges or preload were having an effect, but then I simply changed aero on the same base setup and the same thing happened anyway. How on Earth do you lose 15kmh in a fast corner with 2 or 3 rear wing rather than 8? Is my game broken? Lol it's bizarre and really frustrating as I thought I was getting more comfortable setting cars up perfectly for me.
@@RL- I don't know why you expect higher corner speeds with less downforce?
@@SimracingPopometer I don't get what I'm misunderstanding tbh. Wouldn't *rear* downforce make high speed cornering slower? That should make the car lean towards a more understeery bias at high speed because the centre of pressure is going back?
is the m4 livery available for download to public?
unfortunately not
ich glaube das Setup vom Link ist ein M6 und kein M4 Setup. Die Werte aus der Datei passen nämlich nicht und die Datei hat auch M6 im Namen
ja, das ist Absicht. da wir den M4 kompetitiv fahren, können wir das schlecht rausgeben, aber ich überlege mir nochmal was
It says 5 euros on popopeter, am I missing something?
have you registered? it shouldnt once you are logged in, just check your "user -> my data packs" and it should be there
HAHAHAHHAHA 24:38
Can we get 24:02 as an animated emoji on discord please?
bro
>1 hour
>short
the guide itself is less than 1h :P
also my other guides for shorter laps are longer. praise me.
@@SimracingPopometer np. appreciate the effort
I get it but some of us didn't ever take the time to learn the GP, so "let's skip a couple of corners" after the literall 2nd one just doesn't make me stick to this. Trully a "Full" track guide.
my nurb GP track guide is another full hour :) I'm not sure you would've sat through a 2h video.
and the other problem is: had i done the GP track, most other people would've jumped off as they already know that part. a truly impossible task for me
@@SimracingPopometer "a truly impossible task for me" now this is true. 100% if the skip wasn't there, there would be someone like me, just complaining about going over it again :)
about not sitting through 2h of videos - I still might, I still need to learn the track and some of the corners I mess up are that early. But just wasn't into it today.
My friend, if you explained it in lines instead of explaining it for 1 hour, we would understand it.
Hmmmmmm looong Video for one track......
i have longer ones for shorter tracks (:
Hallo Nils warum bietest du nicht wenigstens Deutschen Untertitel an. Ich bin ein 63 jähriger Deutscher der der Englischen Sprache zwar mal vor annähernd 50 Jahren in der Schule hatte aber das ist verdammt lange her!!
ich müsste den leider selber schreiben, wenn CZcams es nicht automatisch macht.
Schau mal beim Zahnrad beim Video unter Untertitel. Da kannst du dir die automatisch übersetzte Sprache einstellen. Die Übersetzung ist hier und da etwas merkwürdig, aber ich denke du verstehst so alle Inhalte. Schönen Sonntag :)
Hey how are you
Is something that , I don't know maybe it was me but when you ask for money like you do , you are going to push away your fans , don't give me wrong I like your videos and I have learned from them but please, don't say " give me your money" at the end of the video, you know your donations are made so why ... Thank you and forgive me if I expressed myself the way I felt
You just watched a free 1 hour long video, which took him time and effort to make (not to mention sharing knowledge and insight from his experience). Are you sure it’s a good idea to go ahead and complain about him making his time and effort a business?
@@brunofgallo hey buddy how are you
Gutes Video aber du schwafelst way to much.
Inwiefern?
Wenn du das Video startest, siehst du, dass es über eine Stunde geht. In so einem Format nimmt man sich die Zeit, Dinge ausführlich zu erklären, auf Details einzugehen oder Kontexte ordentlich zu erklären oder herzuleiten. Was hast du erwartet? Ist halt kein Short.