I test rode a 2015 HD Sportster 1200 low T.The bike rumbled and shook and it had character.This bike was mechanical and had soul.I was really happy riding it.I never been so stoked on any bike I ridden before than this Harley.I know why people ride them now.None of my Japanese Sportbikes had this kind of attraction.I'm going to buy one.Join the Harley Owner's group or some other Motorcycle club and have a good time.
I was using two strokes Japanese 50 and 125cc as a kid. Now 68 bought first a 150 scooter, one month later a suzuki boulevard 800 cc that looks to me very aggressive and powerful. Two month later jumped to a 99 sportster 1200 cc . End of the search. The Harley feels as less powered than the Suzuki being 400cc lower, but the Harley's ride is incomparable. She rides with you.
I failed to hear any comment about the ride position - easy reach of bars - how (or how not) the bike is planted on the road, it's ability to respond to change on the road, how he felt after 20 + minutes etc in the saddle - etc etc etc. Basically nothing to find out here. 😩
As soon to be a 3rd Generation Harley rider, 2nd Gen on Sportster I find this video very informative, as a rider that doesn't ride Harleys all the time you have a nice and honest outsiders review.
In 2011 I bought a 1 year old HD Night Train and those bikes have less vibration than a 2017 Victory Magnum that had more vibration. Otherwise the Victory was nice. The Indian chief is better or an HD Streetglide, In my experience riding them. But to each his own. Pricing is quite close too. Ride safe.
where you turned right at the 8:40 mark, that road is one of my favourite short roads, my dad lives just off there, awesome fun on the 600, can really throw the bike around through there.
My 05 1200 Custom was far from boring, with everything chromed that you could chrome on it and the sound of the pipes I had on it, it was a head turner.
Aye, his comment was absolutely rubbish. This bike is really fun, it is. Thing is, you can't compare a bloody Sportster with a naked bike, or a superbike, they're completely different bikes, designed for different people with different views and tastes, I'd say
I recently took a test ride on a Victory 8 ball with a 106 engine, and 6 speed transmission, and it was really easy to move side to side on when compared the HD Sportster Custom I rode, and with the down draft , fuel injected heads, the Victory 8 ball accelerated really quick when you got on the throttle hard. The most fun I had out of the 18 HD's that I have owned was Harley Buell. At 80 mph , the Buell was VERY smooth because it has no frame underneath to transfer vibrations to the rider.
- Testriding bikes with no intent of buying them. - Compares 1200 cc with 1731 cc. - You want as much power as you can get? It's a cruiser and not a crotch rocket. You are supposed to cruise. Tool!
Clitty Rubquick - These testrides are very good avertising as they might inspire others to buy the bike. - He did not claim them to be equal - And that's what the video shows. He prefers sport bikes, therefore he won't get one of these.
Love the video Tom!! I chuckled a bit when you commented on the horse feed for 2.50 and then you mentioned how well the harley sportster runs over dead birds! I own a sportster nightster and i agree....road kill is everso smoothly overcome :) ..Im looking at purchasing either a victory vegas or the triumph thunderbird(2014). Any thoughts or advice?
I ride an '06 1200 C and to extend the brake pedal itself is a problem due to it being cast I'm extremely tall and have looked everywhere. Any links will be appreciated. Ride on!
What happened to the CBR1000RR video? Did Tom remove it? It was epic, and I have just gone to re-watch it and there is some fake ass video of some other dude re-posting it in low Res. Please explain!
ive often thought about getting a harley but only for the sound.. with the right pipes they sound great but thats the only good thing about a harley. never ridden one but i imagine they are freakin horrible to ride. ive only just got back into bikes, i started riding bikes when i was in primary school, my first bike was a 1977 TS 250, thats what i learnt to ride on at about 7 or 8yrs of age. i rode all thru my teens and 20's on dirt and road bikes and i dont want to jinx myself, but ive never dropped a bike. ever. not even a dirt bike while riding hard, but i was young and super fit back then lol.. ive just started riding again after about 15yrs of no motorbikes and while this time round it scares the absolute crap out of me.. im loving it. only have an old klr250 atm and i only have that because it popped locally for sale with a rebuilt topend and it was dirt cheap. want to get a brand new bike but i have no idea what. the 250 dualsports seem to struggle on the highway but are nice once u hit the dirt, the big dualsports like nerbsans would be great on the highway but too big for me on the dirt so i just dunno. i live pretty rural so i need highway capability as i dont want to be slower than trucks on the highway or have to ring the guts out of it to do highway speeds. anyhoo this is turning into a rant, so next video..
how come u get to ride al those bikes? and how did u come up with the idea to start RidingWithTom? I dont really like harley's, I have got a Suzuki GsxR 1100 from 1993 haha. its a old and my first bike. Is youre whole suit Alpinestars? Loved the video btw and like watching all of them. I'm from holland and did think about doing the same thing u do over here :D in dutch then ofcourse.
The one in my Night Rod takes me down the road like I'm on a rocket. It's stock 'cept for V&H slipon Widowmakers and a hi-flo air filter. I might fiddle with the CFI just a bit but just as it is I'm pretty happy with it.
Not a bad review Tom. The Victory Vegas is bound to be a quicker machine after all the engine is around 530cc larger. Would be better if you rev match your downward gear changes on large twins as you get a smoother gearshift and it's kinder on the gearbox.
I watched a 100 inch Victory with only drag pipes, performance chip, and high flow air filter , out run a 103 HD Screaming Eagle through the gears and on top end too. This is because the American made Victory has down draft , fuel injection and 4 valve heads.
I don't know if comparing a Vegas and a sportster is fair. Try a Softail or, my favorite, a Dyna. 106 in victory 103 in the big Harleys 1600+ CCs. Your on a 1200...
I ride a Victory but I don't hate HD. They are reliability issues but they are better than they were 10 years ago. The shaking pretty much goes away once the bike is in motion.
2003 - 2005 are Rubber mounted so the higher the motor revs the smoother is gets ! The mirrors need to be tightened if you can not see behind you . 50 mpg air cooled motor ( Evolution ) is one the best they make The only similar bikes are the FXR's that were designed by Eric Buell .... Love the Sporty's for just Cruisin around town !
I agree I've written about four different Harleys and I've written two or three different Victory motorcycles and without a doubt the Victory Motorcycles just feel better smoother cooler easier to ride
I was on the side of a highway turn off with a guy on a V-Rod and another guy on a Harley Road king. When we all took off , the guy on the V-Rod with a two into one pipe on it , ran down the road like a rocket! It was fast!
Vibration? Sod off! I've a 600 Fazer, and my '04 Harley 1200 Sporty, is just as smooth. It has Nissin brakes (the only Metric thing on it), and they are BRILLIANT! I've had a few times when I've thanked the brakes. Oh, and the gear changes and gearing itself, is perfect. What the hell are you comparing this to? You seem to be biased beyond belief!
The HD that you're riding in the video is a rubbermount frame. If you rode an 03 or earlier, it would vibrate MUCH more. Also, comparing a sportster to the victory is kinda like apples and oranges as the sportster can't really be considered a cruiser like the victory
If you like the victory GREAT but it is an apple to orange comparison if comparing the 8 ball to a 1200cc Custom. If you want a similar bike to compare/compete with the Victory, try the Street Bob or the Triumph Thunderbird. The Street Bob's are GORGEOUS bikes IMO!
why are you comparing this to a victory, the bikes are not in the same class. They aren't even close. If you want a comparison get the right bike like a Fat Bob or Street bob or Wide Glide, not a sportster. You don't have enough experience to be doing bike reviews buddy. Stick with your day job.
The most impressive part of this video was the dumpster being towed. Listening to you complain about how much the engine vibrates was the worst part. American made bikes are quality, a little shake never hurt anyone. Maybe just the people who ride on the wrong side of the road.
The Victory 8 ball is right in the price range of a HD Sportster Custom. I called my local HD dealer to check the price. The new Victory's now come with a 6 speed transmissions and 106 cc engine , 4 valve heads, down draft fuel injection. When it comes to an American bikes, The Victory wins hands down..
The turn signal placement on the HD's is different, but I don't mind it - I **HATE** the self-canceling, though. It's nice when you make a nice 90* turn like you did at the end and works in your favor, but sometimes it cancels when you don't want it to or vice versa, it stays on after your turn. Either way I think the self-canceling on those are a fucking hazard and I hate it. Yeah, can't see shit out of the mirrors but that's not exactly new to HD, many mirrors are like that, you get good at differentiating blobs and learn to deal, ha. The 1200 custom is a good all-around bike, IMO for like town/main road riding. On the highway the revs are too high and the vibrations numb your ass, and it weighs a bit much to be a super agile urban bike. Def. nice, though. The only thing that really kind of sucks out of the box is the suspension, which is too low and has too little travel.
1200 has way more power and 2 gallons more fuel capacity, iron has mid controls ( I think) 1200 has forward. if you're just going to be around town and not do 120+ mile rides you could get away with the iron. me personally I'd take the 1200
both are great bikes i personally love the look of an 883 plus say in time you want more power well 883 has a kit you can have put on and boom you have a 1200 with the 883 look.
To the amp guy what kind of performance chip? Your talking about how it out ran a bare bone 103 why would you race a mod bike vs none mod. And it always seems victory guys have to bash harley to prove how their victory is so much better. Me personally as long as your on two wheels and riding good on you and enjoy the ride. I ride a harley I love it it had a Yamaha and I loved it I'm just curious why victory guys have to bash harley to prove a point.
Hello from Canada! Its entertaining to see an unexperienced guy giving advice and comparing a 73 ci sportster to a 100 ci Victory or 106 ci, depending on the model year of his 8 ball lol. But besides the biased comments he is making he actually liked the small Harley lol. Just listen to his statements lol. Victory is the cheaper of the Polaris brands, Indian is more of an accurate comparison to Harley Davidson. I have taken rides on all of them, bought a Harley Davidson, and without problems. Indian is closer to the Harley than Victory as far as comfort and chrome quality, etc,thats why the Indian is priced like the Harley, you DO get what you pay for. Test ride proper comparable bikes and buy what you like instead of listening to biased riders, you be the judge but putting down other bike brands is just not cool. A true motorcycle enthusiast does not troll or hate other brands, "ride what you like and like what you ride, but just ride man, just ride, and ride safe and ENJOY!".
I can buy a 2013 Victory 8 ball for $9,999 and a 2014 Victory 8 ball for $11,449.Both of these Victory prices are out door prices. I can buy a 2014 Sportster $11,999 out the door and a 2013 Sportser for $11,449 out the door. So the Victory 8 ball is right in the price range of the Sportster custom ,but you get a 106 cc motor and a 6 speed transmission too. Both bikes are American made, but the Victory is now a better bang for the buck in my opinion. I have owned 12 HD big twins, and 4 sportster.
matrox I think they look pretty good. Nice finishes. They're very close to Harley engines too, after all, it's a 30ºish V-Twin as well. Anyways, S&S is always there if you need them ;-)
Sportsters are the lowest end model of HD motorcycles, (They are also my favorite because they have more of an old school vibe than the higher end models) Anyway, the Victory comparison wrecked this so called 1200 Custom review.
i dont know what kind of dealers you chaps have in Australia, but here in Canada, it can be like pulling teeth to get a simple test ride. I envy you in that respect!
Why do you keep comparing a HD Xl1200C 74CI to a Victory Vegas 8-ball 106 CI? 50% MORE motor may explain why there is more power. Then again.. the blinker switch did throw you for a loop.
He's comparing a Harley Sportster to a Victory. The Victory cost's more then twice as much and has a 106ci motor compared to the 1200cc Sportster. Sportster's are relatively light, with a punchy/ fun bottom end and make for great Bobber's and Bar Hopper's. A more fair comparison would be the Victory and a Harley Road or Ultra Glide.
Sorry Bob, try and be a bit more objective when you do your reviews, avoid using the word "like" too much, stick to interesting facts instead of horse poo and dead birds etc. Edit your vids down to just the stuff we want to hear about. Learn a bit more about what you are riding like most modern harleys have auto cancel of indicators etc. BTW, I love Victorys.
what do you expect. you cant fairly compare a bike with a 106 ci motor to a 1200 cc sportster. I have a 96 ci dyna and my friends victory leaves me in the dust. the 1200 sportster is a great bike for what it is... apples and oranges...
Same I was thinking, he is saying the Victory has more power. Thats because he doesn't realize that a 74 ci engine will not have the same power as a 106 ci. He doesnt mention the Victory cost a lot more too.
Runeguy33 He is in Melbourne, Australia. He is probably wearing the vest because its a requirement made by the dealership before test riding one of their bikes.
those 1200s need the carbs opened up and some slip ons, mine breaths waaay better, sounds alot more throaty. Stock exhaust on cruisers always suck because of regulations, you won't really get the full harley effect without modification! The bigger Harleys DO "rattle your face off" but that is what its all about it being loud and bouncy!
ah. mines not. I had typed in 06 when I found the video, which are carburated. Deffinately can't compare a low level small Harley to a victory vegas 8 ball. 2 different classes.
Have you tried the Dyna models? Such as the dyna super glide or the dyna low rider? Those bikes have the larger 103 cid engine and actually have a lot more power. Also, they are smoother and the mirrors don't vibrate much. But, the sportsters are great cruisers and will easier out run and out maneuver a Japanese equivalent cruiser (such as the C90 or S83 boulevard. Glad you guys are having fun !
Yes your used to the victory period thats all you kno, you spent 20mins on the sportstar and you think you got it worked out? spend as much time on it as you do your victory then come back and say ya peice now get off and stay off.. the sportstar is way more stable, plenty of getup power, manovering and gets more attention.. its a worthy ride..
I couldn't give 2 shits about Harleys but i still liked your vid :) Just entertaining as always. You could testride the Hawking Mobile and make it fun to watch.
I test rode a 2015 HD Sportster 1200 low T.The bike rumbled and shook and it had character.This bike was mechanical and had soul.I was really happy riding it.I never been so stoked on any bike I ridden before than this Harley.I know why people ride them now.None of my Japanese Sportbikes had this kind of attraction.I'm going to buy one.Join the Harley Owner's group or some other Motorcycle club and have a good time.
I was using two strokes Japanese 50 and 125cc as a kid. Now 68 bought first a 150 scooter, one month later a suzuki boulevard 800 cc that looks to me very aggressive and powerful. Two month later jumped to a 99 sportster 1200 cc . End of the search. The Harley feels as less powered than the Suzuki being 400cc lower, but the Harley's ride is incomparable. She rides with you.
I failed to hear any comment about the ride position - easy reach of bars - how (or how not) the bike is planted on the road, it's ability to respond to change on the road, how he felt after 20 + minutes etc in the saddle - etc etc etc. Basically nothing to find out here. 😩
As soon to be a 3rd Generation Harley rider, 2nd Gen on Sportster I find this video very informative, as a rider that doesn't ride Harleys all the time you have a nice and honest outsiders review.
This test riding series are absolutely great!
On and on and on about the fucking vibration.... mate, it's a Harley. Vibration is part of the package!!
+Xnocturnus That gets the bitch ready for later. =)
In 2011 I bought a 1 year old HD Night Train and those bikes have less vibration than a 2017 Victory Magnum that had more vibration. Otherwise the Victory was nice. The Indian chief is better or an HD Streetglide, In my experience riding them. But to each his own. Pricing is quite close too. Ride safe.
where you turned right at the 8:40 mark, that road is one of my favourite short roads, my dad lives just off there, awesome fun on the 600, can really throw the bike around through there.
My 05 1200 Custom was far from boring, with everything chromed that you could chrome on it and the sound of the pipes I had on it, it was a head turner.
Aye, his comment was absolutely rubbish. This bike is really fun, it is. Thing is, you can't compare a bloody Sportster with a naked bike, or a superbike, they're completely different bikes, designed for different people with different views and tastes, I'd say
You have it there man...Fuckin' Quote of the YEAR!
"Shut up and ride!!!!!!"
God I Love that
Thanks for that quote.➡️ 💥😀😀😀
I recently took a test ride on a Victory 8 ball with a 106 engine, and 6 speed transmission, and it was really easy to move side to side on when compared the HD Sportster Custom I rode, and with the down draft , fuel injected heads, the Victory 8 ball accelerated really quick when you got on the throttle hard. The most fun I had out of the 18 HD's that I have owned was Harley Buell. At 80 mph , the Buell was VERY smooth because it has no frame underneath to transfer vibrations to the rider.
@RidingWithTom did you ride 883 ? 1200 has more torque is it true ?
- Testriding bikes with no intent of buying them.
- Compares 1200 cc with 1731 cc.
- You want as much power as you can get? It's a cruiser and not a crotch rocket. You are supposed to cruise.
Tool!
Clitty Rubquick - These testrides are very good avertising as they might inspire others to buy the bike.
- He did not claim them to be equal
- And that's what the video shows. He prefers sport bikes, therefore he won't get one of these.
@@phelicitas3342 Yes but the problem is when these numpties review cruisers from a sportbike POV. Bloody annoying
Love the video Tom!! I chuckled a bit when you commented on the horse feed for 2.50 and then you mentioned how well the harley sportster runs over dead birds! I own a sportster nightster and i agree....road kill is everso smoothly overcome :) ..Im looking at purchasing either a victory vegas or the triumph thunderbird(2014). Any thoughts or advice?
I ride an '06 1200 C and to extend the brake pedal itself is a problem due to it being cast
I'm extremely tall and have looked everywhere. Any links will be appreciated. Ride on!
Tom, what are your dimensions?
Did you pull down your video on the CBR1000RR?
how much fuel does it eat ?
Btw have you considered a hornet 600 review? Just curious
What happened to the CBR1000RR video? Did Tom remove it? It was epic, and I have just gone to re-watch it and there is some fake ass video of some other dude re-posting it in low Res. Please explain!
The engine is on rubber mounts. Thats why shes shaking around in the frame, but you cant feel it so much through the bars.
ive often thought about getting a harley but only for the sound.. with the right pipes they sound great but thats the only good thing about a harley. never ridden one but i imagine they are freakin horrible to ride. ive only just got back into bikes, i started riding bikes when i was in primary school, my first bike was a 1977 TS 250, thats what i learnt to ride on at about 7 or 8yrs of age. i rode all thru my teens and 20's on dirt and road bikes and i dont want to jinx myself, but ive never dropped a bike. ever. not even a dirt bike while riding hard, but i was young and super fit back then lol.. ive just started riding again after about 15yrs of no motorbikes and while this time round it scares the absolute crap out of me.. im loving it. only have an old klr250 atm and i only have that because it popped locally for sale with a rebuilt topend and it was dirt cheap. want to get a brand new bike but i have no idea what. the 250 dualsports seem to struggle on the highway but are nice once u hit the dirt, the big dualsports like nerbsans would be great on the highway but too big for me on the dirt so i just dunno. i live pretty rural so i need highway capability as i dont want to be slower than trucks on the highway or have to ring the guts out of it to do highway speeds. anyhoo this is turning into a rant, so next video..
how come u get to ride al those bikes? and how did u come up with the idea to start RidingWithTom? I dont really like harley's, I have got a Suzuki GsxR 1100 from 1993 haha. its a old and my first bike. Is youre whole suit Alpinestars? Loved the video btw and like watching all of them. I'm from holland and did think about doing the same thing u do over here :D in dutch then ofcourse.
How do you get to test ride so many bikes?
The one in my Night Rod takes me down the road like I'm on a rocket. It's stock 'cept for V&H slipon Widowmakers and a hi-flo air filter. I might fiddle with the CFI just a bit but just as it is I'm pretty happy with it.
Not a bad review Tom. The Victory Vegas is bound to be a quicker machine after all the engine is around 530cc larger. Would be better if you rev match your downward gear changes on large twins as you get a smoother gearshift and it's kinder on the gearbox.
I watched a 100 inch Victory with only drag pipes, performance chip, and high flow air filter , out run a 103 HD Screaming Eagle through the gears and on top end too. This is because the American made Victory has down draft , fuel injection and 4 valve heads.
I don't know if comparing a Vegas and a sportster is fair. Try a Softail or, my favorite, a Dyna. 106 in victory 103 in the big Harleys 1600+ CCs. Your on a 1200...
The victory has a biger motor you should test ride the breakout or vrod
.... but i secretly still want one
Great bike, just got one, loving it so far. Yes they vibrate :)
I ride a Victory but I don't hate HD. They are reliability issues but they are better than they were 10 years ago. The shaking pretty much goes away once the bike is in motion.
The Thunder Stroke 111 in the new Indian Chief is a great looking engine!
lovely vid mate
When?
2003 - 2005 are Rubber mounted so the higher the motor revs the smoother is gets !
The mirrors need to be tightened if you can not see behind you .
50 mpg air cooled motor ( Evolution ) is one the best they make
The only similar bikes are the FXR's that were designed by Eric Buell ....
Love the Sporty's for just Cruisin around town !
the signals also turn off when you start to accelerate. i have a 883 custom and i love it :D
A 20 minute discussion on vibrations, concluding that the vibrations aren't bad.
That's my little beast with van hines pipes and I feel alive riding it.
You will always need longer mirrors on a 1200 custom. I had mine for a month before I upgraded the mirrors.
Are Harley's Popular at all where you live Tom?
I agree I've written about four different Harleys and I've written two or three different Victory motorcycles and without a doubt the Victory Motorcycles just feel better smoother cooler easier to ride
you should test ride one of the big harleys with 103 engines to compare with victory 106 engine....something like Fatbob, Wideglide or Fatboy
do it. love your reviews. A real everyman you are. And thats a compliment ha ha. Carry on!
Ciao e bella da guidare?
Just thort I would watch one of urr old vids and holy moley has the audio changed
I was on the side of a highway turn off with a guy on a V-Rod and another guy on a Harley Road king. When we all took off , the guy on the V-Rod with a two into one pipe on it , ran down the road like a rocket! It was fast!
Melbourne boy! I recognised all those streets!
Do a review on a night rod
Vibration? Sod off! I've a 600 Fazer, and my '04 Harley 1200 Sporty, is just as smooth. It has Nissin brakes (the only Metric thing on it), and they are BRILLIANT! I've had a few times when I've thanked the brakes. Oh, and the gear changes and gearing itself, is perfect. What the hell are you comparing this to? You seem to be biased beyond belief!
The HD that you're riding in the video is a rubbermount frame. If you rode an 03 or earlier, it would vibrate MUCH more. Also, comparing a sportster to the victory is kinda like apples and oranges as the sportster can't really be considered a cruiser like the victory
I can't get out of its own way!! Your floored it and it was like "ehh not today"
They have plenty, you just can't wind them out like Sports bike, you instead Up to the next gear, since they are ALL torque.
+Mike Fu ehhh, I'm going with a low miles Honda Valkyrie or if I get the funds then a used blue Honda Rune
If you like the victory GREAT but it is an apple to orange comparison if comparing the 8 ball to a 1200cc Custom. If you want a similar bike to compare/compete with the Victory, try the Street Bob or the Triumph Thunderbird. The Street Bob's are GORGEOUS bikes IMO!
isnt the 8 ball alot more expensive
why are you comparing this to a victory, the bikes are not in the same class. They aren't even close. If you want a comparison get the right bike like a Fat Bob or Street bob or Wide Glide, not a sportster. You don't have enough experience to be doing bike reviews buddy. Stick with your day job.
This isn't an H-D Sportster review- more like a Harley vs. Victory comparison.
have you seen the victory review? listen closely
good video thanks for sharing with us
Test ride Aprilia Dorsoduro 750 or 1200
The most impressive part of this video was the dumpster being towed. Listening to you complain about how much the engine vibrates was the worst part. American made bikes are quality, a little shake never hurt anyone. Maybe just the people who ride on the wrong side of the road.
i prefer the older sportsters like my fathers 1996 harley XL sportser 1200 custom that bike is stunning but i would love an old harley shovelhead
Do you just rock up to bike places and ask for test rides?
More torque than a D series.
I really want one of these bikes, out of all seriousness.
A skirty ha ha, Tom you were very diplomatic in this review!
The Victory 8 ball is right in the price range of a HD Sportster Custom. I called my local HD dealer to check the price. The new Victory's now come with a 6 speed transmissions and 106 cc engine , 4 valve heads, down draft fuel injection. When it comes to an American bikes, The Victory wins hands down..
The turn signal placement on the HD's is different, but I don't mind it - I **HATE** the self-canceling, though. It's nice when you make a nice 90* turn like you did at the end and works in your favor, but sometimes it cancels when you don't want it to or vice versa, it stays on after your turn. Either way I think the self-canceling on those are a fucking hazard and I hate it.
Yeah, can't see shit out of the mirrors but that's not exactly new to HD, many mirrors are like that, you get good at differentiating blobs and learn to deal, ha.
The 1200 custom is a good all-around bike, IMO for like town/main road riding. On the highway the revs are too high and the vibrations numb your ass, and it weighs a bit much to be a super agile urban bike. Def. nice, though. The only thing that really kind of sucks out of the box is the suspension, which is too low and has too little travel.
1200 custom vs Iron 883? any thoughts...
1200 has way more power and 2 gallons more fuel capacity, iron has mid controls ( I think) 1200 has forward. if you're just going to be around town and not do 120+ mile rides you could get away with the iron. me personally I'd take the 1200
120+ if you get hit...your a gonner
both are great bikes i personally love the look of an 883 plus say in time you want more power well 883 has a kit you can have put on and boom you have a 1200 with the 883 look.
To the amp guy what kind of performance chip? Your talking about how it out ran a bare bone 103 why would you race a mod bike vs none mod. And it always seems victory guys have to bash harley to prove how their victory is so much better. Me personally as long as your on two wheels and riding good on you and enjoy the ride. I ride a harley I love it it had a Yamaha and I loved it I'm just curious why victory guys have to bash harley to prove a point.
Hello from Canada! Its entertaining to see an unexperienced guy giving advice and comparing a 73 ci sportster to a 100 ci Victory or 106 ci, depending on the model year of his 8 ball lol. But besides the biased comments he is making he actually liked the small Harley lol. Just listen to his statements lol. Victory is the cheaper of the Polaris brands, Indian is more of an accurate comparison to Harley Davidson. I have taken rides on all of them, bought a Harley Davidson, and without problems. Indian is closer to the Harley than Victory as far as comfort and chrome quality, etc,thats why the Indian is priced like the Harley, you DO get what you pay for. Test ride proper comparable bikes and buy what you like instead of listening to biased riders, you be the judge but putting down other bike brands is just not cool. A true motorcycle enthusiast does not troll or hate other brands, "ride what you like and like what you ride, but just ride man, just ride, and ride safe and ENJOY!".
I can buy a 2013 Victory 8 ball for $9,999 and a 2014 Victory 8 ball for $11,449.Both of these Victory prices are out door prices. I can buy a 2014 Sportster $11,999 out the door and a 2013 Sportser for $11,449 out the door. So the Victory 8 ball is right in the price range of the Sportster custom ,but you get a 106 cc motor and a 6 speed transmission too. Both bikes are American made, but the Victory is now a better bang for the buck in my opinion. I have owned 12 HD big twins, and 4 sportster.
You really need to test the iron 883!!!!
you should ride a victory vagas jackpot.
Harley's are legends, but Victory's are AWESOME! They (Vic's) make the most beautiful cruisers I've ever seen.
The victory engines are just extremely ugly.
matrox I think they look pretty good. Nice finishes. They're very close to Harley engines too, after all, it's a 30ºish V-Twin as well. Anyways, S&S is always there if you need them ;-)
I enjoyed the cruise on the cruiser, but i look forward to dat 636 again :-)
holy shit the bike shop you started at is like a 10 minute drive from my house
The 8ball price range is more like a Dyna though
Thanks for a great time last night Tom! You didn't give me your number though!! Send it to me and we'll go out again!!
Sportsters are the lowest end model of HD motorcycles, (They are also my favorite because they have more of an old school vibe than the higher end models) Anyway, the Victory comparison wrecked this so called 1200 Custom review.
The white one is alike mine,,practicaly the same bike
i dont know what kind of dealers you chaps have in Australia, but here in Canada, it can be like pulling teeth to get a simple test ride. I envy you in that respect!
Why do you keep comparing a HD Xl1200C 74CI to a Victory Vegas 8-ball 106 CI? 50% MORE motor may explain why there is more power. Then again.. the blinker switch did throw you for a loop.
Of course the HD 1200 (cc) isn't as powerful as the Victory Vegas 8 ball. The 8 ball is 1730 (cc) .
He's comparing a Harley Sportster to a Victory. The Victory cost's more then twice as much and has a 106ci motor compared to the 1200cc Sportster. Sportster's are relatively light, with a punchy/ fun bottom end and make for great Bobber's and Bar Hopper's. A more fair comparison would be the Victory and a Harley Road or Ultra Glide.
Sorry Bob, try and be a bit more objective when you do your reviews, avoid using the word "like" too much, stick to interesting facts instead of horse poo and dead birds etc. Edit your vids down to just the stuff we want to hear about. Learn a bit more about what you are riding like most modern harleys have auto cancel of indicators etc.
BTW, I love Victorys.
At least that Sportster in this video is one with the rubber mounted engine.
Dont like harleys but love your vids either way
Test ride the Ducati 848 evo
what do you expect. you cant fairly compare a bike with a 106 ci motor to a 1200 cc sportster. I have a 96 ci dyna and my friends victory leaves me in the dust. the 1200 sportster is a great bike for what it is... apples and oranges...
Same I was thinking, he is saying the Victory has more power. Thats because he doesn't realize that a 74 ci engine will not have the same power as a 106 ci. He doesnt mention the Victory cost a lot more too.
You should test ride the ducati 848 that looks like a fun bike :)
i showed this to my dad and u convinced him :) finally hes gonna ride with me!! THANK YOUUU im subbing
wut the fuk is a victory?
a brand of bike, made in America as well
Hi. Hive the Yamaha Midnight Star 1300A ago. Ozzie
Test ride more super sports :) s1000rr, 1199 or 848 duc, gixx 750 or 1000, ktm rc8! Those videos would be epic! :D
You need a boogie'ometer with your review :)
P.S. Test a Panigale if you can, would love to see you on one of those.
Why do you have to wear reflector vests ?
He's in the UK. Motorcycle riders are required to wear them by law.
Runeguy33 He is in Melbourne, Australia. He is probably wearing the vest because its a requirement made by the dealership before test riding one of their bikes.
Runeguy33 No they're not. Also this guy's in Australia
Runeguy33 That's bullshit. No they're not. It's a dealership requirement.
I can't understand what you say man. Are you from Finland?
australia
Are you high?
those 1200s need the carbs opened up and some slip ons, mine breaths waaay better, sounds alot more throaty. Stock exhaust on cruisers always suck because of regulations, you won't really get the full harley effect without modification!
The bigger Harleys DO "rattle your face off" but that is what its all about it being loud and bouncy!
It's fuel injected
ah. mines not. I had typed in 06 when I found the video, which are carburated. Deffinately can't compare a low level small Harley to a victory vegas 8 ball. 2 different classes.
Have you tried the Dyna models? Such as the dyna super glide or the dyna low rider? Those bikes have the larger 103 cid engine and actually have a lot more power. Also, they are smoother and the mirrors don't vibrate much. But, the sportsters are great cruisers and will easier out run and out maneuver a Japanese equivalent cruiser (such as the C90 or S83 boulevard. Glad you guys are having fun !
Test ride the cbr 600rr
Yes your used to the victory period thats all you kno, you spent 20mins on the sportstar and you think you got it worked out? spend as much time on it as you do your victory then come back and say ya peice now get off and stay off.. the sportstar is way more stable, plenty of getup power, manovering and gets more attention.. its a worthy ride..
R1 will more then likely be next :)
I couldn't give 2 shits about Harleys but i still liked your vid :) Just entertaining as always. You could testride the Hawking Mobile and make it fun to watch.
For the lower comment, the vids of the future shall be called GettinItOnWithTom.