From the ashes of Rome - Battle of Tolbiac, 496 AD - Rise of the Frankish Empire

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  • đŸš© Today we have the Battle of Tolbiac, which took place in Gaul during/after the collapse of the last fragments of the Western Roman Empire. Despite being fought in AD 496 (or 506, depending on who you ask) it marked the beginning of what would one day become modern France.
    đŸš© Support HistoryMarche on Patreon and get ad-free early access to our videos for as little as $1: / historymarche
    📱 Narrated by David McCallion
    đŸŽŒ Music:
    Epidemic Sound
    Filmstro
    📚 Sources and citations:
    Visiting Battlefields: The Battle of Tolbiac - Denny Koch (2015)
    Bernard S Bachrach - Merovingian Military Organization, 481-751 (1972)
    John F. Drinkwater - The Alamanni and Rome 213-496: Caracalla to Clovis (2007)
    Peter Heather - The Restoration of Rome: Barbarian Popes and Imperial Pretenders (2013)
    Simon MacDowell, Angus McBride - Germanic Warrior, 236-568 (1996)
    Ian Wood - The Merovingian Kingdoms 450-751 (1994)
    #rome #history #documentary

Komentáƙe • 406

  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  Pƙed 22 dny +174

    đŸš© Sources for this one are quite scarce, so it was a bit tricky piecing it together. I hope you'll enjoy the show! Today we have the Battle of Tolbiac, which took place in Gaul during/after the collapse of the last fragments of the Western Roman Empire. Despite being fought in AD 496 (or 506, depending on who you ask) it marked the beginning of what would one day become modern France.

  • @christopherevans2445
    @christopherevans2445 Pƙed 22 dny +175

    Late Antiquity and History Marche together is magic

    • @johnpijano4786
      @johnpijano4786 Pƙed 21 dnem +8

      I won't call this late antiquity anymore. This is early medival history.
      But yeah, this is literally just when late antiquity ended so the differences is not a lot.

    • @christopherevans2445
      @christopherevans2445 Pƙed 21 dnem

      @@johnpijano4786 late antiquity is between 250-700 ad. Look up any historian comment on subject

    • @christopherevans2445
      @christopherevans2445 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      ​@@johnpijano4786 late antiquity is 250-700 ad. Look up and historians view of the area

    • @christopherevans2445
      @christopherevans2445 Pƙed 21 dnem +4

      ​@@johnpijano4786 late antiquity is defined as 250-700 AD. Look up almost all historians, as this is the defined time period.

    • @kafon6368
      @kafon6368 Pƙed 21 dnem +5

      @@christopherevans2445 I do not care. The Middle Ages began after the fall of Rome. Rome fell in AD 476. It is that simple.

  • @molybdaen11
    @molybdaen11 Pƙed 21 dnem +29

    This sounds like a normal campaign in crusader kings.
    He even changed his religion to have a casus belli against other countries.

    • @TheTyrgiss
      @TheTyrgiss Pƙed 19 dny +6

      Ahahahah so true đŸ€Ł

  • @gideonhock221
    @gideonhock221 Pƙed 22 dny +144

    It’s always a pleasure to wake up on Saturday and see a historymarche upload

  • @stevo271
    @stevo271 Pƙed 22 dny +92

    In classical Latin, Clovis would have been pronounced "Clo-wees (like modern Cloe)". Drop the hard C and you get Louis (Lo-wees). (In later French the S becomes silent.) It even matches the spelling with the Romans using V for U.

    • @jaber70599
      @jaber70599 Pƙed 22 dny +15

      Clovis is only the latin spelling. - At that time the Franks language was Frankish. Frankish has nothing in common with latin. So the right pronounciation of the kings name in his own language is Chlodwig. - It is still hundreds of years to come until the (West) Frankish language evolves into French.

    • @stevo271
      @stevo271 Pƙed 22 dny +4

      @@jaber70599 Interesting. When did they start speaking Latin? Was it before Charlemagne? That aspect of French history is mystery. How a Germanic tribe adopted Latin, similar to Visigoths I suppose.

    • @HikerBikerMoter
      @HikerBikerMoter Pƙed 22 dny +3

      ​@jaber70599 chlodwig-ludwig
      germanic blood both them

    • @jaber70599
      @jaber70599 Pƙed 21 dnem +8

      @@stevo271 Yes. the Franks did the same as the Visigoths did. On the other hand are the saxons in England. They did not adopt the Latin language. - First: Franks served as soldiers and even generals in the Roman empire army for a long time. We must assume that at least higher ranks Franks have a good command of the latin language. - Second: After defeating roman power and establishing Frankish rule the Franks did not destroy the local roman administration and clerical organisation. Frankish rule was just a military coup. Not an invasion. Then in the western part of the Frankish territory the Franks slowly merged with the Romans.Their languages merged into the now French - We know for sure that shortly after Charlemagne the Franks in the western part of the country did not speak the same language any more as the Franks in the eastern part. They speak Old French and Old German and a they needed a translation.

    • @berthamoen4488
      @berthamoen4488 Pƙed 20 dny +7

      @@jaber70599Frankish evolved into Dutch. Not into French.

  • @yansoloooo
    @yansoloooo Pƙed 22 dny +29

    I'm french, and even if Clovis is (like you said) considered the first king of France, I never learned details like this.
    Many thanks.

    • @67cudaksa34
      @67cudaksa34 Pƙed 19 dny +1

      he was nit, he was king of the franks. the first real king of france was Charles the Bald

    • @yansoloooo
      @yansoloooo Pƙed 18 dny +2

      @@67cudaksa34 I know it's more complicated, but the simplified story we learned at school is Clovis first french king.
      And the catholics love that with the baptism and all...

  • @westernculturethroughgodseyes
    @westernculturethroughgodseyes Pƙed 22 dny +143

    I've been a huge fan for 4 years. Why have you guys decided to discontinue the Hannibal series? No episode 20. It's been 1 year + 3 months, and 67 other videos later, since episode 19. It seems to be your most beloved series. It starts out with ~3,000,000 views on episode 1. And still gets >400,000 views by episode 19. Your most recent videos have been getting ~200,000 views. Why have you guys decided to discontinue the Hannibal series?

  • @johnpijano4786
    @johnpijano4786 Pƙed 22 dny +38

    It's so painful to see the Roman Empire from Theodosius the great to have it be mutilated.

  • @lamelime1
    @lamelime1 Pƙed 22 dny +39

    This is a very understudied time in history. Like, the most famous person of this period was Belisarius, and he himself lives in obscurity when compared to many others. I'm glad that you guys are doing videos on it!

    • @zertyuz
      @zertyuz Pƙed 22 dny +4

      And it's probably one of the most important periods in human history

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Pƙed 22 dny +36

    Historymarche! Your work, visuals and narration are second to none! You always knock it out lf the Park! Suggestion: Battle of St. Quentin of 1557, the battle that ended french ambitions in italy for good.

    • @raphaelsoulard3371
      @raphaelsoulard3371 Pƙed 20 dny

      As a french lad i support this suggestion. Saint Quentin is indeed a good topic although i think the subject of french/italian relationship, wich has been very interesting over centuries, would maybe need a few videos before getting to the battle of St Quentin itself, at least some broad recap of how relations evolved and culminated to this important battle as people not informed on this specific subject may find themselves a bit lost without proper explanation :-) Great idea though, a series between 1450 to 1700+ or so about french and italian history could be a link to the later napoleonis wars, wich has already been developped in detail on the channel !

  • @m.sairohan885
    @m.sairohan885 Pƙed 22 dny +10

    Great work HistoryMarche

  • @Mz-ci8wg
    @Mz-ci8wg Pƙed 22 dny +7

    Funny was just reading about the ascension of Clovis and this battle was mentioned. As soon as i open youtube, here you are. Thanks!

  • @ajirah8856
    @ajirah8856 Pƙed 22 dny +3

    Another excellent video, thank you HistoryMarche, top notch channel

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Pƙed 22 dny +95

    Clovis I ! The father of france! Thanks For covering this! He's such an amazing figure đŸ«ĄđŸ«ĄđŸ«ĄđŸ«ĄđŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„

    • @rc8937
      @rc8937 Pƙed 22 dny +7

      Father to other countries as well, I believe.

    • @rageraptor7127
      @rageraptor7127 Pƙed 21 dnem

      I thought you were gonna say he’s your father figure lmao đŸ€Ł

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      @@rc8937 Sigebert would be the father of Germany then since Clovis couldn't care less about the Ripuarian Franks and didn't helped them

    • @vloplob
      @vloplob Pƙed 21 dnem

      So you are saying France is actually Germanic?

    • @rc8937
      @rc8937 Pƙed 21 dnem

      @@ommsterlitz1805 How about Belgium?

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 Pƙed 22 dny +3

    Amazing work as always HM!

  • @CelxD
    @CelxD Pƙed 22 dny +3

    Another amazing video!

  • @tikitong7285
    @tikitong7285 Pƙed 22 dny +16

    Always a good day when historymarche posts a video.

  • @TravisBrady-wn8fr
    @TravisBrady-wn8fr Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Love your shows. Look forward to the next!

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 Pƙed 22 dny +8

    May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm in honor of HistoryMarche.

  • @brunolima7402
    @brunolima7402 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Always interesting, thanks, HM!

  • @ProfessorM-he9rl
    @ProfessorM-he9rl Pƙed 18 dny +1

    Thank you for this post, very educational.

  • @eqbal321a
    @eqbal321a Pƙed 22 dny +3

    excellent as always

  • @nvelsen1975
    @nvelsen1975 Pƙed 22 dny +8

    'Her uncle, who'd killed her father and her mother, thought it unwise to refuse marrying her off'.
    Dark age politics go brrrr. 😆

  • @coyote4237
    @coyote4237 Pƙed 22 dny

    Thank you. Always well done and worth watching.

  • @Nicholas-ch5ln
    @Nicholas-ch5ln Pƙed 22 dny +56

    The Merovingians were so brutal clovis was one of the nicest one

    • @JayzsMr
      @JayzsMr Pƙed 22 dny +4

      Wasn’t there a story where he axed one of his men on a whim?

    • @Nicholas-ch5ln
      @Nicholas-ch5ln Pƙed 22 dny +11

      @@JayzsMryes but he was one of the nicer Merovingians his son clothair killed both of his nephews and burned alive his son whole family after he rebelled.

    • @oliviervece6121
      @oliviervece6121 Pƙed 22 dny +1

      Yes.​@@JayzsMr

    • @casper191985
      @casper191985 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      @@Nicholas-ch5lnnope

  • @RJ_F1
    @RJ_F1 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Amazing work as always. đŸ„‚

  • @htetarkarphyo1334
    @htetarkarphyo1334 Pƙed 22 dny +8

    It is impressive that you can upload video like every week❀❀❀❀❀❀

  • @dominiquecharriere1285
    @dominiquecharriere1285 Pƙed 21 dnem +27

    In France we were told of the miracle of Tolbiac, it seems a desperate Clovis calls for the christian god's help and a few minutes later the king of the Alemani dies and the battle turns side. Of course this was probably spread by Clovis after the battle, Clovis needed his christian subjects (the majority in his new empire) but could not be baptized without fearing that his frankish realm would rebel, so he needed a "miracle" to convince them. Sneaky politician! Great video once again!

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g Pƙed 20 dny

      But he is a Nestorian Christian 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mgramsdale
      @mgramsdale Pƙed 20 dny +1

      And not all influenced by later Christian writings...

    • @redclayscholar620
      @redclayscholar620 Pƙed 17 dny

      Clovis in reality: "God damn this is a tough fight! I pray I can win!" 😂

    • @WarriorofChrist612
      @WarriorofChrist612 Pƙed 10 dny +2

      Source? A battle can go really anyway so obviously he'd turn to the almighty Jesus Christ. Not sure where you're getting all of this from like it was written down or something. Christians prayed before battle so that they may win (Obviously).

  • @mikes7566
    @mikes7566 Pƙed 8 dny

    Great video! Love it very much! Thank you

  • @ShadowOfAnEpicSaxmanExclusive
    @ShadowOfAnEpicSaxmanExclusive Pƙed 21 dnem +1

    It's always a great day when HistoryMarche posts a video!

  • @chrisperry4143
    @chrisperry4143 Pƙed 16 dny +1

    great video!

  • @internetperson8224
    @internetperson8224 Pƙed 22 dny +3

    I love your content! I can’t wait for Hannibal part 20! Take your time but please do not forget!

  • @Buddlertom
    @Buddlertom Pƙed 12 dny

    awesome video, learnt a lot!

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 Pƙed 22 dny

    Im so glad you finally covered Merovingians ❀

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @YeeeeGreg
    @YeeeeGreg Pƙed 21 dnem

    Wow this was a particularly epic video from this channel! You guys always do a fantastic job, but I feel like this video had especially excellent writing

  • @robertmanjani1894
    @robertmanjani1894 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Enjoyed ur historical vid.. I'll be waiting for more 😊

  • @yoio_yo6938
    @yoio_yo6938 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Always worth the waiting

  • @chanceglantz2740
    @chanceglantz2740 Pƙed 22 dny

    Man, I love these vids!

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111 Pƙed 22 dny

    Great vid and great channel .

  • @kurt8870
    @kurt8870 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Good video as always.

  • @Sanj1n
    @Sanj1n Pƙed 22 dny +1

    History marche never disappoints with the quality of his videos.

  • @thomascatty379
    @thomascatty379 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Fantastic video, that ending was beautiful

  • @Fredelatorsion
    @Fredelatorsion Pƙed 22 dny +7

    Very interesting and well-made. Nevertheless, Clovis would be very surprised, knowing that he had founded France winning at Tolbiac. That were only germanic realms which fight one another. France was born like an outcome of the battle of Bouvines (1214) and Philippe II was probably the first having as project to reconquest and gather the territories inherited by Charles II in 843, to form a realm.

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Pƙed 22 dny +5

      We will say that this is a starting point in the very long process of several centuries, because even if what you say is true, the Franks never stopped ruling in Gaul (hence the name "France" after), there were simply several dynasties, and different evolutions and developments since then.

    • @rc8937
      @rc8937 Pƙed 22 dny +5

      Many countries trace their origins to the Franks. France was just West Francia. Germany was East Francia.

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 Pƙed 22 dny +3

      @@rc8937 Of course, but the Ottonian dynasty was before all Saxons too.
      From the Merovingians, the Carolingians, the Capetians, etc... All Kings and Nobles of France were directly Frankish of origins. There were a continuity, whatever the Dynasty throughout times.

  • @patrickkelly8095
    @patrickkelly8095 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Another great historical video.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Pƙed 21 dnem

    Such an epic and pivotal point in European history! Thanks for another fine video.

  • @arnas6931
    @arnas6931 Pƙed 22 dny +4

    Finish up Hannibal series please🙏, I love this channel and it's unique content💙

  • @TheHoggcast
    @TheHoggcast Pƙed 22 dny

    awesome video, make a series on this please!!

  • @charlesandrews2360
    @charlesandrews2360 Pƙed 10 dny

    Good show!

  • @pomicultorul
    @pomicultorul Pƙed 17 dny

    Thank you!

  • @JonniePolyester
    @JonniePolyester Pƙed 19 dny +1

    That was brilliant 😊👍

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Pƙed 22 dny

    Thanks an amazing ( history Marche) channel for sharing this magnificent historical coverage episode about Franklin and a great Clovis emperor fingerprint in the 4th and 5th century AD of France đŸ‡«đŸ‡·.

  • @ArnaudLance
    @ArnaudLance Pƙed 16 dny +2

    Great video on a forgotten battle ! Vive la France!

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 Pƙed 22 dny

    Viva la HistoryMarche!

  • @htetarkarphyo1334
    @htetarkarphyo1334 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    OK I gonna have to download this audio for my playlist of historymarche đŸŽ‰đŸŽ‰â€â€â€â€đŸŽ‰đŸŽ‰đŸŽ‰

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 Pƙed 22 dny +6

    Clovis should be called Clovis the Great because his legacy is still alive.

  • @rolandlabelle188
    @rolandlabelle188 Pƙed 22 dny

    You the man great stuff 😊

  • @frogwaffle7
    @frogwaffle7 Pƙed 17 dny

    my evening is complete....thank you HM

  • @Steven-dt5nu
    @Steven-dt5nu Pƙed 9 dny

    I learned something new. Thanks

  • @SebastianMartinez-ru8ln
    @SebastianMartinez-ru8ln Pƙed 21 dnem

    i love this channel ! =)

  • @AliSyed711
    @AliSyed711 Pƙed 20 dny

    I have to say that this was made quite well. I’m not that familiar with this period of history in Western Europe, but before the battle sequence, I had become very invested in the Alemanni and Clovis. Fascinating that this is such an important battle and it seems to have evaded me thus far. Excellent video 👍

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Great video

  • @Markjr778
    @Markjr778 Pƙed 22 dny

    Best history documentaries on all of CZcams

  • @GoguMacaroana
    @GoguMacaroana Pƙed 21 dnem

    All hail the algorithm! Great video as always!

  • @gruffythrone988
    @gruffythrone988 Pƙed 21 dnem

    I absolutely love this video you don’t get many video during this time

  • @mihajlo7893
    @mihajlo7893 Pƙed 22 dny

    mr history marche you are a great storyteller..
    And thank you for the great video..đŸ’Ș

  • @robbysnipes9568
    @robbysnipes9568 Pƙed 22 dny +7

    It’s rare for me to see a video on a battle I’ve never heard of on YT; thank you K&G !

  • @the_farrow9549
    @the_farrow9549 Pƙed 21 dnem

    great vid

  • @joelpajar8158
    @joelpajar8158 Pƙed 22 dny

    Love it!

  • @Frank-ru5im
    @Frank-ru5im Pƙed 22 dny

    Great video! Please make more videos like the Prince of destruction! 🎉

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 Pƙed 19 dny

    Outstanding👍👍👍

  • @ryanduncan721
    @ryanduncan721 Pƙed 18 dny

    Please do more of Clovis I would love learn more!!

  • @mhamissa
    @mhamissa Pƙed 17 dny

    Great video. Now, I have a firm knowledge about Clovis ❀

  • @ulrich3486
    @ulrich3486 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Im a simple man, I see a new HistoryMarch Video and I Like.

  • @tpoutrel
    @tpoutrel Pƙed 22 dny +2

    Thanks!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  Pƙed 22 dny

      Thank you for the support. Much appreciated!

    • @qaiserali6773
      @qaiserali6773 Pƙed 18 dny

      @@HistoryMarche bro please cover the below list of battles
      1) Conquest of Constantinople - 1453
      2) Battle of Nahavand - 642
      3) Battle of Qadissiyah -636
      4) Battle of Varna - 1444
      5) Battle of Manzikert - 1071
      6) Battle of Sufetula - 647
      7) Battle of Nikiou - 646

  • @collintrytsman3353
    @collintrytsman3353 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    excellent

  • @haydenkohn5801
    @haydenkohn5801 Pƙed 22 dny

    This was great, I'd love more content during these immediate post western Roman collapse time period.

  • @luigisaguier8336
    @luigisaguier8336 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Detailed histories of the Visigoths and Lombards would be great too!

  • @thekedrking9909
    @thekedrking9909 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    New video time, nice.

  • @yt-lemro3237
    @yt-lemro3237 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Thanks

  • @flytoast9260
    @flytoast9260 Pƙed 22 dny

    very good

  • @ramiromen6595
    @ramiromen6595 Pƙed 22 dny +2

    The battle of Soissons is incredibly underrated, the Romans having a lasting enclave in modern day France is cool ofc but the fact that if defeated the Franks would have returned to their Rennish petty kingdoms and the whole of Gaul ends up becoming Balkanized makes for incredible alternate history.

  • @Clodomir17
    @Clodomir17 Pƙed 20 dny

    Nice video. I hope there will be some more about this era. There is a couple mistakes in the footnotes (name of Clovis’ daughter in #2 and « Timur the Lame » in #3).

  • @chasechristophermurraydola9314

    Hopefully you do the Battle of Vouillé some day.

  • @sdtamarinera
    @sdtamarinera Pƙed 20 dny

    Nice video. Could you add figures of the worriors to get a better idea of the men clashing at the battles? Think it could help.

  • @AxelPoliti
    @AxelPoliti Pƙed 22 dny

    Beautiful story that fully explains the reason to have a Tolbiac Paris metro station

  • @colink563
    @colink563 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Hi HistoryMarche I believe there was an error with the last portion of your #3 footnote. Loved the video!

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 Pƙed 22 dny

    I love late antiquity, scarce sources but very interesting
    the historian Bruno Dumézil is a monster in this very hard field

  • @reficulwer
    @reficulwer Pƙed 22 dny

    Đ˜ĐœŃ‚Đ”Ń€Đ”ŃĐœĐŸĐ” ĐČĐžĐŽĐ”ĐŸ, ŃĐżĐ°ŃĐžĐ±ĐŸ

  • @MrKuznarsky
    @MrKuznarsky Pƙed 21 dnem

    Awesome video! I wanted to name my youngest son Clovis, but my wife objected strongly. I showed her every second of this video. Pretty sure if it was around seven years ago, I would have won that battle.

  • @Codoloco1
    @Codoloco1 Pƙed 22 dny

    I play Aoe, Manorlords and like medieval pc games... it is so awesome to be able to play, watch and listen to this. It makes everything so immersive.

  • @vectordirect7876
    @vectordirect7876 Pƙed 22 dny +1

    Hello people!
    hello, last week you didn't post a video, I was looking forward to seeing it,,,,,

  • @user-vo1uc3bh7t
    @user-vo1uc3bh7t Pƙed 21 dnem +1

    Thank you, HistoryMarche, for your captivating content! The new map style is superb, enhancing the overall experience. Keep up the excellent work!😀

  • @cindyvandousselaere
    @cindyvandousselaere Pƙed 22 dny +1

    please make a video about the gulden sporenslag in 1302, a small group of flemish knights defeated the kingdom om france here in Kortrijk!
    its an legend story here in Belgium and i would love it if you made a video about it.

  • @RadustMaster4
    @RadustMaster4 Pƙed 22 dny

    W upload as always from historymatche

  • @hardhittinghartmann6635
    @hardhittinghartmann6635 Pƙed 20 dny

    Great

  • @lordMartiya
    @lordMartiya Pƙed 21 dnem

    There's a somewhat recent Italian song about Clovis. It's hilarious in how it praises him as generous and nice while also listing his massacres (and yes, the band did it on purpose).

  • @Necrotog82
    @Necrotog82 Pƙed 20 dny

    Its impressive to overcome being named Clovis and achieve so much.

  • @emila6
    @emila6 Pƙed 16 dny

    I hope you make videos on World War 1 and world war 2 battles 👏