Beware: Consumer Unit Fire Hazard! The Importance of Proper Installation

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  • čas přidán 10. 02. 2024
  • 🔥 Shocking footage reveals the devastating consequences of a poorly installed consumer unit! 🔥
    In this eye-opening video, we delve into the aftermath of a consumer unit fire caused by negligent installation practices. Witness firsthand the havoc wreaked by subpar electrical workmanship which was a preventable electrical fault.
    Consumer units are the heart of any electrical system, tasked with distributing power safely throughout a property. However, when installed incorrectly, they become ticking time bombs, posing a significant fire risk to households.
    Join us as we dissect the events leading up to this catastrophic incident, highlighting common installation errors and their potentially deadly consequences. From loose connections to overloaded circuits, discover the red flags that indicate a consumer unit is at risk of ignition.
    But fear not! Knowledge is power, and by understanding the importance of proper installation techniques, you can safeguard your home and loved ones from the threat of electrical fires. Whether you're a homeowner, electrician, or simply curious about electrical safety, this video is a must-watch.
    Don't let your consumer unit become a fire hazard waiting to happen. Watch now and empower yourself with the knowledge to protect against electrical disasters. Remember, safety starts with awareness!
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Komentáře • 57

  • @philhermetic
    @philhermetic Před 4 měsíci +20

    The result of piss poor design and flimsy construction of mcbs etc. I am a 71 year old retired electrical engineer. Consumer unit fires never happened in my career, so what has gone wrong? Putting it in a metal box and sealing it up is not a solution!
    Phil

    • @AJ-tj7jm
      @AJ-tj7jm Před 4 měsíci

      More to do with being a price lead industry, clients not being prepared to pay what the job is worth and companies always undercutting eachother or under pricing to get the work. End result engineers under pressure rushing jobs, sloppy workmanship, leaving loose connections all over the place.

    • @philhermetic
      @philhermetic Před 4 měsíci

      @@AJ-tj7jm so you expect to be over paid for poor workmanship? Rewiring domestic premises is the very bottom of the electrical industry, it requires very little skill and only a basic knowledge of installation techniques. It is not worth what firms are trying to charge today. Are you seriously trying to say that leaving loose connections is the result of not being paid enough or being rushed? It seems to me that the modern “technician” has a very inflated sense of his own worth and a belief that he can charge what he likes for his superhuman god like skills! It doesn’t matter how well paid you are or how much pressure you are under, do it properly or go sell double glazing!
      Phil

  • @andrewwatson3576
    @andrewwatson3576 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Thats got to be the hardest of jobs, where you know they have nothing and need to spend a fortune to simply make the installation safe, keep up the good work

  • @almartin727
    @almartin727 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.
    When something like that happens, I’m instantly thinking “what else is going to be wrong with this”. For the time it takes once you’ve got the board isolated, I think it’s worth doing dead tests on the existing installation before making any changes/replacing a board and becoming responsible for the safety of the whole lot.

  • @blower1
    @blower1 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Classic 'mistake' that I've seen numerous times on installations....in fairness i see this as more of a fatal design flaw of many consumer units. You have a rising terminal clamp, upside down in a position where you can't see the terminals without an inspection mirror. Then you combine that with a multiway bus bar that has no mechanism to tell if it's secure or not on more than one terminal (you can't just tug on a wire to see if any one terminal has actually clamped)
    I've been aware of this potential issue for decades - long before I ever saw sparks using inspection mirrors to check. In the early days i just made sure all the terminals were fully open before slotting the MCB onto the rail, now i do this and check with a mirror.
    If CU manufacturers continue to use this crap design then they should have warning labels specifically about this issue and even provide an inspection mirror with every CU - or change the crap design.

    • @davideyres955
      @davideyres955 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Agree. How hard would it be to put in a little mirror along the length of the bus bar so you can see the terminals. They put in little levels (that are pretty useless) so why not some mirror at 45 degrees?

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Před 4 měsíci +2

      They cover thier arse with the "check all connections including factory made" note in the box.

    • @mesparky9
      @mesparky9 Před 4 měsíci

      Spot on,vi just said the same thing. Also 1 screw main switch terminals, should be double screws.

    • @paulmyhill4158
      @paulmyhill4158 Před 4 měsíci +1

      spot on have come across this once in my career before it fried the rcd welded it in the on position ,its a fatal floor in the design just like you say . I always check very carefully they are clamped in its very easy to come unstuck on this .

    • @droidism
      @droidism Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@davideyres955 for this exact purpose i've bought a couple of one-use dental inspection mirrors at the usual online Next Day Delivery retailer. They are red, come in a package of 10 pieces and cost me around a tenner. Threw a couple in the car, bag, toolbox, and so on.

  • @mattsan70
    @mattsan70 Před 4 měsíci +6

    My Wylex rewirable fuse-wire unit from 1972 is as good condition today as it was when new - so much for progress - I will not be "upgrading" it any time soon

  • @garrett69
    @garrett69 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Why upgrade to 25mm tails when the main incoming fuse is only 80a? 16mm is more than enough and 25% over-sized compared to the fuse.

  • @chas3997
    @chas3997 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I’ve come across similar standard on several installations you can only make sure your being compliant and issue documented safety notices. I had a council flat that had sockets wired through old metal conduit where the conduit it’s self was being used as an earth and degrading causing sockets to become dangerous (500 ohms +) again really wanted a rewire.🥵
    Customers don’t always understand the technical requirement and standard you have to work to. Also as you mention some customers aren’t able to afford a rewire and sometime the installer isn’t looking for that volume of work. So can be a minefield dealing with jobs that are poorly installed from the start.🥵

  • @andrewbrady1063
    @andrewbrady1063 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Had a similar issue some time ago. Wylex split board, installed by British Gas, one of the RCD units, was not clamped down onto the busbar. I was only there to replace an existing light switch. Luckily, I happened to hear cracking when they put the kettle on.
    I do have a clip of it, if you'd like me to send it.

  • @G8YTZ
    @G8YTZ Před 4 měsíci

    On my advice, about 35 years ago, I got my dad to fit an RCD to the house. He employed the south-eastern electricity board to do the job, but the electricians installed. It had failed to clamp the incoming 25 mil cable down properly, actually, had the cable on the back of the clamp.
    The meltdown occurred whilst cooking Christmas dinner obviously seaboard came out straight away on Christmas Day and repaired it, but it was a really shoddy installation.
    I had a similar experience with an EV charger that wasn’t installed properly back in 2013. He had used inadequate plastic chocolate block to make connections on a circuit that was going to carry 32 A for about 7 hours at a time. At this time, porcelain chocolate block was required.
    When I first met my wife, I was somewhat horrified by the electrician she had installed new (17th) consumer unit, (again on my advice, replacing old cast, iron isolators and wired fuses), he left it with a neutral crossed between the RCD, protected circuits and the non-RCD protected circuits. Every time you switched on the conservatory lights, the RCD tripped.
    The only way to do a job properly is to do it yourself, I’m not technically a qualified electrician, but I have a lot of knowledge from my training and experience of broadcast transmitters, so I’ve wired every single one of my houses and then get it independently tested afterwards. It’s the old story if you want the job done properly, do it yourself.
    Having said that, I’ve met a lot of very competent electricians too, but there is certainly a problem with domestic electricians.
    When I built this house and wired it, the inspection company asked if they could use my house for the Rhône NIC-EIC inspection, so I got two inspections for the price of one!

  • @chrisardern4594
    @chrisardern4594 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Tricky one but as long as you make it known that the sockets with no CPC you should in my opinion disconnect them my reason for this
    if you leave it connected and someone gets a electrical shock or God forbid dies your the professional Electrician and when your dragged into court to explain why you left a dangerous electrical situation as there barrister will accuse you of could you justify yourself. Obviously this is worse case scenario but it does happen.

  • @dieseldragon6756
    @dieseldragon6756 Před 4 měsíci

    The first thing about this video that scares the living F out of me is that my landlord installed that same damn model of CU in my home, though I have two separate CUs (Day and Eco-7) rather than the one single split-load board. This isn't the first time I've seen a toasted Wylex CU on CZcams either, come to think of it. ⚡🇬🇧🔥😳
    The potential saving grace for me is that thanks to energy price inflation and the fact the income for the industrially disabled hasn't risen to compensate, it's presently *very* rare for my CU to ever have more than 13A drawn through it at any one time. 💸
    One thing that stood out to me when you pulled the board apart was the fact that the defect was on the MCB protecting the (What should've been a ring) circuit, which is probably the one most likely to see inappropriate DIY mods (e.g: Three gang socket replacing a one-gang on the assumption it's OK, not realising that one-gang outlet is on a spur off the ring and a 2+gang spur isn't normally compliant.) and that would've immediately started me testing and hunting them out, especially with signs of arcing suggesting to me a heavy current flow into the neutral and implying bad wiring and shorts. 🩳
    As for helping the customer out with getting _some_ of his installation back into safe service; He's definitely going to need a rewire - Even a DIY'er like me can see that - But what do the regs say about providing a temporary ring main or spurred sockets in surface mounted conduit? A temporary surface circuit providing a few safely usable outlets to key parts of the house is still better than nothing at all, and (Subject to this being possible under the regs) will at least give him a way of bridging the gap between _I can't afford a rewire now_ and _Let's get all that bad wiring sorted out_ 😇

  • @tf2694
    @tf2694 Před 4 měsíci +1

    19th edition needs to have some indicator on MCB's / terminations to show everything is tight I've seen this too often

  • @nathd1748
    @nathd1748 Před 4 měsíci

    I've come across this loads. It's due to the busbar tips not catching under the MCBs properly and allowing thermal runaway. It's more often than not a sparky error UNLESS of course those batch of MCBs are numbered under the Wylex recall for fire risk. They gave us £10 a breaker years ago to swap them out.

  • @dl8966
    @dl8966 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Still Learning the trade, But where do you stand with putting them circuits back into service with no cpc through out and no actual ring final circuits? Does this mean now that you're responsible for that installation now that you've upgraded for consumer unit?

  • @andrewstevens7453
    @andrewstevens7453 Před 4 měsíci

    I was always told to make sure connections are tight, and never do anything with consumer units. Leave it to the qualified 👍

  • @gregcressey1791
    @gregcressey1791 Před 25 dny

    Can I just ask a question when I was doing my electrical training as part of my multi skilled maintenance apprenticeship I was always told you always connect to source last after you have completed your install but in this video you connected it to the isolator with the tails first then completed the install if you by mistake or someone managed to turn the isolator on it could become live unless you have pulled the dno fuse why connect it first pal instead of doing the unit then connect to source after ?

  • @daveenglish2031
    @daveenglish2031 Před 4 měsíci

    100% a diy job. found a shower switch that someone had done and had stripped 2 inches of isulation on all conductors. it went bang as soon as I removed the screws!

  • @andyfarmer8591
    @andyfarmer8591 Před 3 měsíci

    Since moving to the east coast, near Skegness. I have come across several boards just as you found them, including loose tails as well. Most were installed by Diyers.
    2 off them, I just caught in time, otherwise they could easily have set fire to the property.
    How many more are like this out there?

  • @chrisardern4594
    @chrisardern4594 Před 4 měsíci

    Done this myself a few times BUT i always check with a mirror before powering up. It does prove though 17th ed boards were / are non combustible. OMG I didnt realize you are a fan of Elvis and his jungle room lol.

  • @thedon7536
    @thedon7536 Před 4 měsíci

    It’s ionic that the government run adds if you can’t smell gas but never do one about if you get a fish smell 😮

  • @bovnet
    @bovnet Před 4 měsíci +3

    Cant beat a rewire-able wylex

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 Před 4 měsíci

      Part of me is tempted to replace mine with *non* flammable 18th ed boards, and repurpose my existing Wylex units as barbecues... ⚡🇬🇧🔥🍔😉

  • @michaeltye8853
    @michaeltye8853 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Surely you’d have been better to do remedial work on the old board and recommend a complete rewire ………missing the bus bar clamp is often found. No way would I have just changed board. Easy way out just replace mcb s and a well written report sent .

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil Před 4 měsíci

    Listen its the easiest thing in the world to criticise other people's work I been sparking for 40 years and I have done this my self I done it once after that I used a mirror to check

  • @ANTHONYBOOTH
    @ANTHONYBOOTH Před 4 měsíci

    the cranium who 'installed' that needs to be traced down and arrested...

  • @mesparky9
    @mesparky9 Před 4 měsíci

    Its common with these units. Its easy to put the bus bar behind the mcb connection. Bad manufacturing and installation. Seen this many many times.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 Před 4 měsíci

      I'm only a DIYer myself - Not formally qualified - But am I right in thinking that a safer way to do the job is to remove the MCB/RCBO block from the CU, turn it upside down, ensure the busbar is *correctly* fitted in all terminals (Screwing down as tight as is possible off the DIN rail) then reinstall it to rail before restoring the other connections? 😇

  • @tonywatson1412
    @tonywatson1412 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Are the taller fuse box rcbo,s DP ....? It's just when you mentioned .earth rod. If it's TT ...

    • @Mainly_Electrical
      @Mainly_Electrical Před 4 měsíci

      Single pole

    • @tonywatson1412
      @tonywatson1412 Před 4 měsíci

      And me a 75yo. amateur ...and still learning... could have been an S type up front...Still ​@@Mainly_Electrical

  • @jonathanstephens7804
    @jonathanstephens7804 Před 4 měsíci

    Another classic reason why consumer units along escape routes must be be fire rated. You see so many properties with boards under stairs with no fire escape windows.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 Před 4 měsíci

      That _finally_ explains the 45-minute fire door on my electrical cupboard...And also why I still have a 15th ed CU despite it being on a primary evacuation route *and* the same model of Wylex board we see in the video here! ⚡🇬🇧🔥😳
      (Thankfully, I also have a viable secondary escape route. 👍)

  • @rodgerq
    @rodgerq Před 4 měsíci +1

    It is too easy to miss the cage with the busbar, they arent the greatest of designs over all. Any electrician worth their salt would know to check each breaker but you just never know what's going through folks brains at any one point in time. Or it was a diyer who was unaware of the possibility of missing the cage clamp. Lucky it was caught.

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 Před 4 měsíci

    Should have done dead tests before buying new CU and breakers. Then the ring could have been split into two 16A or 20A radials.

  • @johnmcfadden7418
    @johnmcfadden7418 Před 4 měsíci

    why did it need a new board?

  • @stunimbus1543
    @stunimbus1543 Před 4 měsíci

    missing the gate is quite common.

  • @audibell
    @audibell Před 4 měsíci

    🔥🔥🔥🔥 why do people do DIY electrics just leave it to the pros

  • @granvillebloor6569
    @granvillebloor6569 Před 4 měsíci

    I'd make sure it was all safe and ask two mates doing the same and go through it and do what u can

  • @MD-gc4xq
    @MD-gc4xq Před 4 měsíci

    It is what it us unfortunately

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 Před 4 měsíci

    Fit AFDDs on socket & heavy current circuits.

    • @001Neal100
      @001Neal100 Před 4 měsíci

      But isn't the fault before the afdd itself? Would the afdd actually trip if the busbar copper connection to it was loose?

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 Před 4 měsíci

      @@001Neal100
      That is a good question. I have thought about that myself.

  • @connect4king
    @connect4king Před 4 měsíci

    Definitely a distress change of the board.

    • @nathd1748
      @nathd1748 Před 4 měsíci

      I wouldn't change it. We have loads of those boards lying about our lockup. I'd just swap out the rail and put a fresh cover on.

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 Před 4 měsíci

    The French system of DP breakers using a dual L&N (comb) busbar entering the breakers from the top is far superior.
    The British Consumer Units are an appalling design. They needs to be DP ASAP.
    The French system is available in the UK. Schneider.

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 Před 4 měsíci

      Merci beaucoup! L' technologie (Et trains) electriques Français c'est superieur! 🚄🇫🇷💯👍

  • @sylvianorah1367
    @sylvianorah1367 Před 3 měsíci

    Sorry about your Dad.

  • @carlrobson5745
    @carlrobson5745 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm not a betting man but that boards been changed by a handy man or a over enthusiactic diy person whos watched a few you tube videos seen many wylex breakers with mis terminations ane even the best can miss terminate hence check with a mirror I also doubt that boars came with a certificate when installed

  • @over-engineered
    @over-engineered Před 4 měsíci

    surely this was an amateur job, not an electrician!?