I felt sorry for Philippa. She wanted to change the direction of her daughter and the Empire. Unfortunately this was a change too big to be accepted by Terran culture.
No she went about it to fast she should have removed the problems before she can make change read 40k the emperors son is making a big change but he’s taking his time and being tact full not like here
@@trajan4770 in the second season which i re-watch Phillipa said to larell the klingon chancellor when she rescued her and her baby that she had kids of her own but never took care of them she commented that she wouldn't be able run the empire she actually said get things done so he e r children would take over the empire with the help of her loyalists Lorca would have to be dealt with or whoever the emperor is wouldn't last the year
@@delmardonte906 True but there are instances where actors improvise. If that scream was improvised it may very well have been a genuine expression of shock from Michelle Yeoh. speaking personally? I've rarely not been rattled by a yowling crazy person charging me with a weapon.
Michael is highly emotional in both universes (ironically being raised on Vulcan in the Prime). She also has likely experienced even greater trauma in the mirror. Being Terran, highly emotional, and having a serious survival instinct, her madness makes a lot of sense.
Man, Sonequa sells the death scene so well - shocked eyes in disbelief, drowning in her own blood with blood gurgling out of her mouth, while twitching at the same time. Probably the most brutal, savage and violent death in all of Trek. It's the mirror universe and DSC goes all the way
So... does it mean captain Killy became the next empress in that universe? because she was the most loyal captain of the empire and the highest-ranking officer present at the moment the rebellion was put to death and, of course, the most trusted officer of the empress and an officer capable of putting aside her instinct to look for personal glory in order to do what's best for the stability and interest of the empire.
in this altered Terran timeline Killy probably did become Empress. Because in the one we know Spock became Emperor and that ended rather spectacularly didn't it?
The sword moved funny when it was thrust through. I noticed it immediately lol. That got by the FX quality control!! It looked so fake like Michael was made of air.
dude its a show get over it they do their best to make it look real and thats all that matters if ya hate the show dont watch it their is enough people that love it to keep it alive
@@warwargr3654 who gives a shit its not a bad show ya all just want star trek to stay 1960 and this is 2020 things have changed this show is going to keep going with or without you us REAL trekky fans will make God dam sure of that
Philippa should never have died in that scene the wound she got could have been taken care of by the medical staff on board in a instant the writing staff are heartless but this was Michelle's last and final good bye on Discovery with a bang
@@liamloxley1222 this happened to phillipa in front of witnesses captain killy and the other ones with her just shrug there shoulders and pretend the fight didn't take place not to mention imperial high command would run an investigation because it was the emperor one more thing someone is going to have to take her place now that she left her home universe to go to the Land of make believe
Yeah. All the out of place antagonistic attitudes/dialogue and angsty writing would actually fit in the mirror universe. Even after season 1 where things started to get a little better, it still never quite felt right or "Trek like". Old trek always had it's hefty share of cheese and the occasional poorly written episode too, but it carried a subtle sense of class/dignity. Characters in discovery are (generally) just too pent up and over dramatic.
I thought they actually killed each other with simultaneous knifing blows? Although Georgio’s death is not shown on screen there was a lot of blood seeping out!
MIchelle Yeoh, forever Miss Malaysia, forever martial arts actress/philosopher/teacher and empress. Long Live the Empire! Love seeing her do some of her martial arts in ST.
why is it they only look cool when they are playing their evil counterparts? if starfleet looked like they would have conquered the whole galaxy with drip alone
the only thing that slightly annoys me about this is how the crew members of Discovery somehow are intricate and high (enough) ranking characters in the mirror universe. how does that make any sense?
This has been a thing with all the Mirror Universe episodes in TOS, DS9 and ENT essentially making the main characters major figures in the Mirror Universe. It makes more sense when you think of the MU as a Mirror to our own as opposed to an actual parallel universe
Love just about everything Star Trek. Really want to like this show. This scene is a master class in a B movie script with a massive budget. Only the costumes are nice.
I Feel Happy that Georgeu Failed to change the Empire cause what would be the Point of that they were Created to be like that and if you Reform all the Villains in Trek then that would be no Fun.
@@donpula6349 While I initially felt sorry for the Emperor, I can only imagine how she must have raised Burnham for her to be so evil and mistrustful even by Terran standards. She reminds me of what we saw with Mirror Kirk in the TOS episode.
Omg, this is so dramatic and epic. How have I not heard of this show before!? Eeee! I know what i'm doing for the next week. Couch old friend Daddys coming home. Also can we talk about the costumes and makeup, A+ my dudes.
Worst....background fighting....ever. Simply no gravity to it, just going through the motions without intent, though the Cinematography certainly didn't do them any favors. Two leads did much better, but could still be improved.
Sind die wirklich so unfähig grundlegende Prinzipien auseinanderzuhalten? Sind die wirklich so unfähig dazu? Sternenflotte ... ade. Wird nie was werden, wenn man mit solchen Einstellungen solche Projekte angeht.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait, were you serious?
I could watch Georgiou kill Burnham over and over and over and over again. Wish she also killed the Discovery "prime" version of Burnham and end the series on that high note.
I understand and perceive perfectly well. You’re the one who can’t see reality. Like so many others, you are oblivious to your own inner bigoted, racist rhetoric. There is no school for you to go back to....you’re a lost cause.
No thank you Burham is an Eye candy , the things ill do to that woman lol she can be all mary sue and discovery can be woke trash but I just turn my brain off and watch it
TO start, I have nothing against the actress, but I've known some women with attitude like Burnham in real life the way the idiot writers in STD wrote her (both mirror and normal Burnham type). As "hot eye candy" as they are, their attitude is something you'll never be able to settle down with for the long term unless you're also a psychopath to "even" things out. Some crazy chicks are reportedly "amazing" in the sack, but not even I would want to get near a possible psycho. To be honest; a female cousin of mine who's still enlisted in the army says that a woman as insubordinate as Burnham in the show are fast-tracked out of military service with a dishonorable discharge - no demotions, no bothering for a second/third/fourth/what-have-you chance - just a straight up court-martial and kicked out ASAP. And depending on the severity of the infraction for the dishonorable discharge; may include a stay at Leavenworth - be it temporary, or permanently. Unlike Tom Paris from Voyager, whose infraction was about covering up his own accidental pilot error - Burnham's "infraction" was intentionally instigating a mutiny on board her own ship in the very first episode of the goddamn series.
I felt sorry for Philippa. She wanted to change the direction of her daughter and the Empire. Unfortunately this was a change too big to be accepted by Terran culture.
I guess Connor is back to being captain of the shenzhou now that Burnham and detmer are dead
No she went about it to fast she should have removed the problems before she can make change read 40k the emperors son is making a big change but he’s taking his time and being tact full not like here
@Pale Embers his called roboute guilliman read the books they are good
@@trajan4770 you mean slow and easy instead of all at once remember this time line was meant as a test
@@trajan4770 in the second season which i re-watch Phillipa said to larell the klingon chancellor when she rescued her and her baby that she had kids of her own but never took care of them she commented that she wouldn't be able run the empire she actually said get things done so he e r children would take over the empire with the help of her loyalists Lorca would have to be dealt with or whoever the emperor is wouldn't last the year
Just noticed.. when michael started raging, it threw the emperor off for a second.. you can see it in her expression... Just crazy..
Mirror Michael could never change. That was the whole point. She was a true child of the Empire and was always going to be.
It's called acting. Nothing crazy about it. The expression was written in the script
@@delmardonte906 True but there are instances where actors improvise. If that scream was improvised it may very well have been a genuine expression of shock from Michelle Yeoh. speaking personally? I've rarely not been rattled by a yowling crazy person charging me with a weapon.
Michael is highly emotional in both universes (ironically being raised on Vulcan in the Prime). She also has likely experienced even greater trauma in the mirror. Being Terran, highly emotional, and having a serious survival instinct, her madness makes a lot of sense.
Man, Sonequa sells the death scene so well - shocked eyes in disbelief, drowning in her own blood with blood gurgling out of her mouth, while twitching at the same time. Probably the most brutal, savage and violent death in all of Trek. It's the mirror universe and DSC goes all the way
It was nice to see Tilley and Saru get physical. Too bad we're not likely to see this in the prime universe.
IKR, would love to see Tilly frak up Ossyra.
@Roy McBatty Oh aren't you cool? If you took Tilly and got her to the size of say Detmer she'd look like Skeletor.
I read this and was wondering when T F they slept together
@@beezzarro lol
Well, kinda if STO is treated as canon.
damn, tragic scene -- what had to be done. result unfortunate: loss of Burnham was loss for "changed" Georgiou.
I don’t doubt that Prime Burnham could handle her Terran self in a fight. She’s had to kill to survive during Discovery’s stay in the Terran universe.
Burnham really has those crazed eyes here.
Yes. I liked.
Those crazed eyes are Karen eyes. Have you seen the videos on freaking out Karens being unreasonable, annoying, and crazy at the same time?
Gowron is the master of the crazy eyes look
Had those WWE - Alicia Fox, eyes.
So... does it mean captain Killy became the next empress in that universe? because she was the most loyal captain of the empire and the highest-ranking officer present at the moment the rebellion was put to death and, of course, the most trusted officer of the empress and an officer capable of putting aside her instinct to look for personal glory in order to do what's best for the stability and interest of the empire.
Empress Killy!
in this altered Terran timeline Killy probably did become Empress. Because in the one we know Spock became Emperor and that ended rather spectacularly didn't it?
I rather hope that Tilly became Empress and perhaps prevented Spock's rise to power and the destruction of the Terran Empire.
wait she dead?
Saru beast mode !
Can I say I love these uniforms. I also really like the Phillipa
They remind me too much of power rangers
The sword moved funny when it was thrust through. I noticed it immediately lol. That got by the FX quality control!! It looked so fake like Michael was made of air.
2:59 if you pause it, you can see the sword is sticking out of her back at the wrong angle as well. They couldn't even line that up properly.
Not saying anything about being Spock's sister having red blood.
dude its a show get over it they do their best to make it look real and thats all that matters if ya hate the show dont watch it their is enough people that love it to keep it alive
@@warwargr3654 who gives a shit its not a bad show ya all just want star trek to stay 1960 and this is 2020 things have changed this show is going to keep going with or without you us REAL trekky fans will make God dam sure of that
@@daviddrake5991 shes human she isnt vulcan but then again ya all probally dont watch the show so you wouldnt know that ya just came here to attack it
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
So six guards enter the room with the Emperor. Two get vaporized and the other four are like "nah fuck this" and leave? :O
@@liamloxley1222 Right at the start. Six of the Emperor's guards enter the room.
I assume Mirror Nillsen and Rhys killed them while they were standing guard off-screen.
Philippa should never have died in that scene the wound she got could have been taken care of by the medical staff on board in a instant the writing staff are heartless but this was Michelle's last and final good bye on Discovery with a bang
@@liamloxley1222 this happened to phillipa in front of witnesses captain killy and the other ones with her just shrug there shoulders and pretend the fight didn't take place not to mention imperial high command would run an investigation because it was the emperor one more thing someone is going to have to take her place now that she left her home universe to go to the Land of make believe
@@brianlindee220 She died for less than a minute...then the Guardian brought her back to life!
Think I would have watched Discovery if it was all set in the MU. The theme of the show suits it more than when early Star Trek was like.
Yeah. All the out of place antagonistic attitudes/dialogue and angsty writing would actually fit in the mirror universe. Even after season 1 where things started to get a little better, it still never quite felt right or "Trek like". Old trek always had it's hefty share of cheese and the occasional poorly written episode too, but it carried a subtle sense of class/dignity. Characters in discovery are (generally) just too pent up and over dramatic.
Never bring a small knife to a sword fight it won't end well for the person with the knives
They both died.....so it was bad for both of them.
Unless you are fighting in an enclosed space where the smaller blade is an advantage.
@@logosofgame4273 oberin Martell from game of thrones agrees with you or he would if he wasn't dead
Wrong in close combat daggers give you better position Specially if you have 2 of them.
I'm glad that the music was revived for this fight!! It was great!!
close quarters with those laser guns and still, they miss lol
Thanks for spoilering me with the title. It was suggested to me in my feed ruthless person.
I thought they actually killed each other with simultaneous knifing blows? Although Georgio’s death is not shown on screen there was a lot of blood seeping out!
she 'died' because this was a test she didn't actually die.
Never pull a knife out of a stab wound, leave it to the ER surgeons!
They did an awful job with that sword as its in her torso, like they couldnt even line them up properly
That's gotta be ruff being forced to kill your own daughter.
Uh yeah commander Killy more please
We want a 'Captain Killy' Trek series
@@LGranthamsHeir the combat sequence itself is pure lol proper dish served Klingon style
Long live the Empire!!
Killy was the captain of Discovery
@@brianlindee220 gentlemen prefer ginger ;))
Ughh this episode was so good. Looking forward to her series
Oh geez, that is like a "how to do a stab animation for beginners tutorial" in Adobe premier ='D
1:51 In the first second, I thought two Dr. Evil's had just rushed in...
I love that outro. ❤
I dont know why but when the Kelpiens charge in guns blazing i just lose my shit.
Lil Jon': Whhhat! Huuuuuh! Whaaaat!
Madam speak up. Too much whispering.
I didn't even catch that the Gateway to Forever guy was this dude in the mirror universe :D
2:57 holographic sword lol.
By the power of greyskull
TMW you realize thats the Guardian of Forever actor dude
Now if we had this Michael Burnham Discovery may have been interesting
That dude in the cell looks like he is homeless if he has a ship he should have a working replicator to fabricate clothing
Remember kids,
1 dont bring a knife to a swordfight, and 2 dont pull out the knife or you might bleed out.
Whats the name of the song at the end? :)
"oh dear... Is she dead?" Loki
Where do i find one of those prop phasers!! damn!!
MIchelle Yeoh, forever Miss Malaysia, forever martial arts actress/philosopher/teacher and empress. Long Live the Empire! Love seeing her do some of her martial arts in ST.
Philippa honey no never just yank the knife out
why is it they only look cool when they are playing their evil counterparts? if starfleet looked like they would have conquered the whole galaxy with drip alone
Hope more clips are on the way
Question if this past did the future happened with Michael disappearing? And Loca prime coming to mirror universe?.
This is a different Mirror Universe.
I've never seen this seen!! What!!
the janky tracking on that CG sword though. you can literally watch it just glide around in burn hams stomach xD
Saru going full beast mode is full Boss, just sayin
this ones ,right!?
This fight scene feels really damn silly.....
Shaky cam tried to cover the poor choreography, but it still bled through...
2:55 Well, that was easy.
- not like I wanted to..... I SAID, NOT LIKE I WANTED TO.....oh come on guys, that's your cue to come in gun blazing......
Why... She's... Always... Whispering... ??
Finally.
Tbh those Emperor's honor huards were extremely useless in this scene. They just died, and even that didn't produce desired dramatic effect.
They did! That dramatic effect of surprisingly being useless.
Mirror Universe's version of redshirts.
Yes! Good staff is so hard to find. Half are ineffective and the other half not too smart.
the only thing that slightly annoys me about this is how the crew members of Discovery somehow are intricate and high (enough) ranking characters in the mirror universe. how does that make any sense?
This has been a thing with all the Mirror Universe episodes in TOS, DS9 and ENT essentially making the main characters major figures in the Mirror Universe. It makes more sense when you think of the MU as a Mirror to our own as opposed to an actual parallel universe
Is Georgiou from Cyprus island?
Love just about everything Star Trek. Really want to like this show. This scene is a master class in a B movie script with a massive budget. Only the costumes are nice.
They are the worst part. Looks like power rangers.
Even in other universes Burnham screw everything up!
Finally
The Mirror Universe at this point is just the same as the Prime Universe (not the real universe Gene created) just without the pretense.
Saru ragolling motherfuckers like a boss. Let the beast out big man.
Can they do that to the other universes Mikey Spock?
this could easily have been a scene from a future austin powers movie.... the dr evil sarus were too much
that was hard to watch
Thanks a lot for spoiler picture...
This should have been hary mud
What should have been ?
You and I surely?
last friday's episode?
no this fridays guy is just putting out spoilers without realising it as america gets it on thursdays
Wen!! What channel!!?
I Feel Happy that Georgeu Failed to change the Empire cause what would be the Point of that they were Created to be like that and if you Reform all the Villains in Trek then that would be no Fun.
You are absolutely right!
Tell this the people who complain STD is too dark.
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!
The mirror universe Burnham
Yeah the extreme, barbaric, crazed & out of control adopted daughter of Philippa from the Mirror universe.
@@donpula6349 While I initially felt sorry for the Emperor, I can only imagine how she must have raised Burnham for her to be so evil and mistrustful even by Terran standards. She reminds me of what we saw with Mirror Kirk in the TOS episode.
Omg, this is so dramatic and epic. How have I not heard of this show before!? Eeee! I know what i'm doing for the next week. Couch old friend Daddys coming home.
Also can we talk about the costumes and makeup, A+ my dudes.
This was another sexy combat... The stunt coordinators are good.
What? This was horrific, the timing was off, the punches were clearly into thin air, camera work was dire...
lol, that was some of the shittiest fight scenes ever. 😆
Gunfight at OK corral?
did they cast the black girl first and then decided they need michel yeoh ?
Well I just got spoiled
some of these fight scenes are slow
LOL
TERRA FIRMA
TERRA ETERNAL
Mirror Universe action-saru
Discovery should have stayed in Mirror Universe
Boi that sword was fake ass
Except she didn't. Clickbait title.
Worst....background fighting....ever. Simply no gravity to it, just going through the motions without intent, though the Cinematography certainly didn't do them any favors. Two leads did much better, but could still be improved.
see intelligent battle!!!!! good job CBS
good job Kurtsmen!!!!!
They get it right on occasion..
best scene in the entire shit show.
buurp, next
The power Ranger woke startrek
Should be more Giorgio on Dark Universe better 100000 waybetter
Michael ????
Me THINKING THAT SARAWAT AND TINE IS AT THIS SERIES🤩🤩
If only this was the end of 'Disco Trek' ITSELF.
Sind die wirklich so unfähig grundlegende Prinzipien auseinanderzuhalten? Sind die wirklich so unfähig dazu? Sternenflotte ... ade. Wird nie was werden, wenn man mit solchen Einstellungen solche Projekte angeht.
Learn english
This fight scene is almost as good as the one in Star Wars Revenge of the Sith between Yoda and Emperor Palpatine, in the Galactic Senate chambers.
no.
Without a cackling old man beating up a tiny green dwarf, its not the same.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 what? Do you like watching relatively good looking females in shiny tight suits fighting, or something?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh wait, were you serious?
I could watch Georgiou kill Burnham over and over and over and over again. Wish she also killed the Discovery "prime" version of Burnham and end the series on that high note.
Dream on Bigot!!!!!HA!!!!!!
@@vancepleasant9525 What part of my comment was bigoted? You apparently can't understand English. Go back to school and take ESL.
I understand and perceive perfectly well. You’re the one who can’t see reality. Like so many others, you are oblivious to your own inner bigoted, racist rhetoric.
There is no school for you to go back to....you’re a lost cause.
No thank you Burham is an Eye candy , the things ill do to that woman lol she can be all mary sue and discovery can be woke trash but I just turn my brain off and watch it
TO start, I have nothing against the actress, but I've known some women with attitude like Burnham in real life the way the idiot writers in STD wrote her (both mirror and normal Burnham type). As "hot eye candy" as they are, their attitude is something you'll never be able to settle down with for the long term unless you're also a psychopath to "even" things out. Some crazy chicks are reportedly "amazing" in the sack, but not even I would want to get near a possible psycho. To be honest; a female cousin of mine who's still enlisted in the army says that a woman as insubordinate as Burnham in the show are fast-tracked out of military service with a dishonorable discharge - no demotions, no bothering for a second/third/fourth/what-have-you chance - just a straight up court-martial and kicked out ASAP. And depending on the severity of the infraction for the dishonorable discharge; may include a stay at Leavenworth - be it temporary, or permanently. Unlike Tom Paris from Voyager, whose infraction was about covering up his own accidental pilot error - Burnham's "infraction" was intentionally instigating a mutiny on board her own ship in the very first episode of the goddamn series.
That dude needs to comb his hair and get nicer clothes
drop discovery go mirror mirror..the fans will come back in droves!!!!!!
this scene made me cry with laughter
Really? CGI for the stab?
damm that is bad Tracking for the CGI Blade.
The acting was ok, but I despise the camera work. What is this, 1960's Batman?
I'm afraid so
Everyone cheered when Burmham died here, then boo'd when she returns next scene.