First Time Flying FPV For a Big Brand! (What I Learned)
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- All the FPV shots in this video were done with the Cinelog 25 HD. You can check out my review on it here: • This TINY Cinematic FP...
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Two more Pro-Tips for not jumping up and down to much (gosh I struggled with that one, too!)
- Turn off the ADC-Filter in your Radio's main settings - Mark Spatz did a video on that and OMG why didn't I learn about this before... This eliminated 80% of the issue
- Check your throttle percentage when you hover and introduce a throttle expo of .50 with that hovering percentage as throttle mid-point - this gives you significantly more resolution and feel around the very throttle value that actually counts (Thanks to Chris Rosser's tuning guide for that one, it really changed my life!)
Also of course actual rates plus high expo are great for smooth indoor flying - I gradually got mine up to a value of 10 center point and .55 expo - which makes the quad feel ultra smooth around center stick position. These things alltogether turn a nervous flimsy quad into something that feels super mature, perfectly controlable and gives you buttery smooth videos all without even using hypersmooth or realsteady in the first place :)
Wow I never thought of that throttle expo tip! Thanks a ton, that is so helpful.
any advice for turbulent air? I feel like so much expo makes my cinewhoop very sensitive to any moving air, for instance from an AC or breeze outside.
@@LIFPV The wobbles come from little angular movements in the whoop induced by the wind that the quad tries to compensate for. A critically tuned quad with really high Master Slider and as little filtering as possible helps with that (if the frame allows for this kind of tuning). The faster, stronger and more precise the quad can respond to those wind-distortions, the more stable it stays. Whoops are sadly both: bad in noise characteristics and more prone to wind distortions as ducts/prop guards provide a larger surface area. So prepare for a bit of tuning struggle.
Protip: shoot 30fps and then slow it down in a 24fps timeline. You will be still getting good light to your sensor, it will look smoother and the people will still look like they are walking normal, but with a "dreamy" effect. This way you avoid going up to 60fps where there's no much light available!
Reducing 30 to 24 introduces frame interpolation, resulting in artifacts, blurred frames, dropped frames. Gopros are capable of shooting in 24 fps.
@@sterkfpv2192 if you record in 30 but put it in a 24 frame timeline, it will still use each picture
@@sterkfpv2192 not really
@@sterkfpv2192 That's true if you're keeping it at normal speed, but I think what Dario is saying is that you can shoot at 30fps and slow it down by 80% in a 24fps timeline, you'd still be using one full image per frame with no interpolation. Same as how shooting in 60fps lets you slow down to 50% speed in a 30fps timeline (or down to 40% in 24 fps timeline). The formula is [ framerate ] / [ timeline fps ] = [ percent you can slow down to without interpolation]
I’m glad you are having success. Your ability to narrate/develop situations is very impressive.
Excited to see where you go from here!
This is amazing, thank you! I've been wrestling with even the feasibility of doing interior FPV videos commercially, until I found your videos.
Some businesses are definitely looking for these kinds of shots! Others don't even know it's a possibility.
Hi Matt, great work and I don’t believe it’s just “luck” that you got those jobs, I believe luck is when preparation meets opportunity and you made it happen by learning to fly and getting good at it and then you reached out to people that lead to an opportunity! So mate it’s not luck it’s hard work and creating your own opportunity’s. so keep it up.
“Creating your own opportunity” that’s great.
Man, you have really good pronunciation. Now I am learning English and doing my first steps to understanding speech by ear. This is so nice to get interesting content, almost understand everything and discover about commercial footage. Thanks
Great video, Matt!
Small tip for getting smoother Cinewhoop Shots: Use a throttle curve in Betaflight!
Pretty easy to set up and for cinewhooping it's a game changer for holding a continuous altitude
Greetings
Very nice to watch Matt!
Matt thanks a lot for doing great videos! That helps so much for starting to improve FPV skills and also to make it into a business!
Great video! Could you please do a separate video about how to fine tune your GoPro settings for indoor low light shots as well as the best settings for filming when flying from an indoor setting to an outdoor, or vice versa, in one shot. Thanks!
Great video - thanks for sharing the experiences & "tips"!
I missed this series! Thanks for keeping it up!
Thank you for share your experience! 🙏🏻
Nicely explained and great tips for those starting out. I appreciate your honesty about how you can improve for the next shoot. 🎬🎥
Thank you so much! I've been in the film industry a while editing and videography. Got into fpv for racing and now wanting to do drone cinematography. This helps a lot. ☺
Thanks a lot Matt !
This is awesome! I’m trying to start doing indoor flying for companies in China where we live. Very helpful video! I liked your review on the Protek 35, just put in my order!
always great advice! Keep it up man!
Hey great video again. thanks for the tips!
Great video man!
I almost recently started learning fpv! I did some indoor flying projects and some things that worked for me is to fly horizon or leveled mode(acro is to jerky for smooth indoor flying), turn air mode off or programming it to deactivate at zero throttle and always prepare your shot!
Acro mode is the smoothest of all the flight modes, when you can fly it. Just lower your rates until you can fly smoothly!
Matt, keep teaching us this cool tips, You rock !
Nice video. Thanks. You were talking about ground effect and bouncing up and down. I've been watching a lot of videos lately trying to learn what you do, one things that's been talked about a lot in different videos is turning off "air mode" in beataflight if you are going to be flying close to the ground a lot.
Congrats! Nice job!👌
This was a very well prepared and insightful video, subbed.
The second GoPro is the best tip. I will even swap sd cards from naked to full size with a 7” field monitor for review.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge
Great job Matt! So smooth 🔥😎
thanks!
Very helpful video Matt 👍 i contacted a few fmx pilots in my area and they're down to shoot so I'm excited, just waiting to receive that hero 10 tomorrow and get used to it, next thing I want to do is getting into cinewhoops to do those type of indoor shoots 🔥
very nice bro, love your videos!
Another awesome video!
5:56 yes yes!
Thanks bro!
Great info!
Thank you
Congrats! Looks awesome! Thanks for the info, hope to hone the skills to use with some of our clients.
Hello, Matt, Thank you very much, I like your friendly and professional way of presenting things. You guys from Canada seem to be somewhat more relaxed than these typical FPV guys from the US ;-)
Thanks Matt! I always learn something from you! Nice shots too! If you are ever in Muskoka, let's fly together!
Love this vid! Such great tips! you didn't talk about throttle expo though? That's helped me so much reducing the bobble and changing some of the Betaflight settings on how twitchy the quad responds to stick movements. Awesome vid though, watched this cos I'm hoping to do a fly through of my office next week
The timing for this video is suspiciously amazing considering i'm waiting for my first 3.5 cinewhoop.
Amazing video, it would also have been nice to know how much you charge for these fpv jobs
He didn’t charge for the Hyatt shoot because he was on a work visa in South Korea and legally could not make money anywhere else. Mentions it in another video.
Wow. Really good. Much more improvement from the first shoot w the camera angle. This is flawless even if you see otherwise.
gr8 vid matt, you came a long way man
Great video, full of helpful advice. One thing to add: the tune. A lot of undesirable handling bugs can be tuned out of any platform. I've tuned my el-cheapo, 100g, 2S micro to fly like a cine-whoop: smooth and predictable. It flies like a toaster out-of-the-box, but with updated firmware for both the ESCs and the flight controller, and a thorough tuning, it's a completely different beastie. I get greatly improved propwash handling, and ground effects are almost negligible. It's made proxy flying fun, with almost zero pucker factor.
Great video
Ground effect combined with wake turbulence and in some cases settling with power. Same concepts that impact helicopter operations. Lateral or horizontal motion is the most effective way to combat this. Increased power can aggravate the condition. Love that video you shot. Fluidity is top notch!
Great info!
Great material. I live in Poland and I am also trying to start a company dealing professionally with fpv recordings. Your advice is very valuable to me. Especially those regarding indoor flying. Thank you :)
bro this is crazy, I started fpv at like the same time you did, love watchin you grow my friend ;)
This is awesome and very timely! I just got hired to do an FPV shoot for the first time.... THANK YOU!!
My charging suggestion, wire in a deep cycle rv battery with a stinger battery isolator solenoid into the trunk of your car. If you use a dc capable charger you'll be set
Bad ass dude.
Sup matt just ordered a emax tinyhawk 2 as a first fpv drone also you got me in to fpv after I saw one of your cinematic fpv video's
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Nice!, I can’t watch now but I am looking forward to what happened!
Thank you for the video. This is useful for me. I have been using FPV for 4 months, I also want to shoot in rooms and restaurants beautifully. And yes, my quad is up and down, it's hard to keep it straight.
Great video my friend! U got me! Following you!
You great 👍 keep going)
More about working with clients and how to find/ pursue clients would be super appreciated!
The bobble: Throttle control. This is 99% the issue, your ground effect thing is kinda...eh. Tiny quad so far up in the air isn't being affected by ground effect. Quads are great at handling their own propwash and wind. Train your throttle control, add expo to your throttle, do something to minimize the twitching in your throttle.
reducing throttle friction can help too
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Great stuff! How would you feel about shooting that with a Shendrones Squirt and a full gopro (without the battery). Would the extra weight concern you in an environment like that?
I'm debating on getting a backup squirt, or another pavo30 or similar..
This came out awesome! Glad to hear your girlfriend saved the day as your assistant
Always bring spare drones XD loved your clips and work, I'm at the same place where I in cooperate the FPV stuff into my video productions. And it's working!
Hi Matt, have you tried mounting a dji pocket 2 camera on this drone, is that possible?
It would be awesome to have tilt locked gimbal of dji pocket 2 to fly around keeping the vertical straight.
what is best GoPro setting for interior lighting, lower light , should I use 2.7k 60 instead of 4k 60 to keep iso lower ?
Hi Matt, what rates are you using on the Cinelog 25 for these kinds of shoots? I’ve been having a hard time finding good info on this
Can you share your rates? I have the same setup and i find it hard to keep it at the same height in the air. Thanks in advance!!
Hey Matt. Did you fly in Acro or stabilized mode to get these nice shots.
Hey Matt, thanks for your helpful videos and all the tips! I was wondering if you have any idea how to shoot vertical videos for social media with the Cinelog25 and a naked GoPro. Unfortunately I could only find vertical mounts for full size GoPros online.
Cheers :)
I've never tried that but, if I was going to, I'd probably do it by just figuring out a way to stick it to the drone with double sided foam tape. Unless you know how to design your own 3D parts or want to pay someone to do it, all current naked cases will be designed for horizontal mounting
is it possible to fly cinelog25 with 56g action2? or maybe with full gopro?? which battery do you reccomend?
Technical question. Could you have done the same video shoot with the Cine Log 35 instead of the 25? Curious because I have the 35 and so far it feels like you have to fly too fast for great smooth indoor video.
hope I have these skills one day. 👍
I can't wait to see what you can do with the gopro 10.. imagine naked gopro 10 settings. I hope to be able to do videos for the Hotels here on the Big Island of Hawaii.
Waiting for mine to arrive :)
Hi Matt! I would like to ask you a question. indoors as in hotels restaurants which flight mode is the most recommended to use?
I have the cinelog 25 with a peanut camera and I'm looking to do a fly through video like you did at the restaurant but for my son's car dealership. But this drone is so loud I mean very loud was that a concern for you or do I have something wrong? Any comment or advice would be appreciated
Great video! Do you ask them to turn the fans and ventilation systems off as well to reduce drafts ?
No but that's a good idea!
Great video like all your past ones. Was the DJI VTX powered on for a long time without having the temperature protection enabled?
I wouldn't say so. I'm pretty good with unplugging my batteries and not letting the quad sit for too long. There were a few times when I had to wait a few minutes before taking off though, so it's possible!
Hey Matt, thanks again for the great video. I've recently done my first cinewhoop business tour (from sending emails to local businesses) and it went great, I did it for free for my portfolio but posted the video as an ad on Facebook and I've got 4 potential jobs/leads off of it. My problem is now I need to make contracts and invoices for these paid jobs. Did you do contracts for these clients? And did you end up making a full edit for them or just sending over stabilised footage?
So this job in Korea was really unique because it was illegal for me to get paid for it so it was more of an exchange of services as well as footage for my reel. You should definitely write up a contract for any paid jobs you're getting in your country though. I did make an edit for them as well but that would be a part of your contract. Different clients might want different things.
Great tips!🙌 Do you use custum rates for smooth flying with the for cinelog 25?
Nope these were stock betaflight rates
Congrats mate! I had really planned on getting into real-estate but the tightening regulations here in Australia made me pull the pin. I still fly recreationally but don't film much now :(
What are the laws in Australia now?
For interiors, I’ve been using the DJI FPV Drone in stabilized mode (positioning sensors) with prop guards and a hero 8 to good result. No unwanted bobbing.
That is way too big for shots like this!
seshhh mate haha, dont cut someones head off. Very risky
@@eganeggzythornycroft1084 I certainly agree with that. I’m not saying this is a good drone for tight spaces or in close proximity to people, but the DJI has proven a good tool for some extensive interior work for me. In normal/sport modes the positioning sensors provide for very smooth, stable, and safe flight.
@@DavidZalka Absolutely too big for tight proximity shots, which is an essential element for one-shots. However with the prop guards and a hero 8 mounted, and stabilized by positioning sensors in N/S mode, I fly through doors and windows, closely over tables and in reasonable proximity to objects safely and with confidence.
Imagine if DJI released a small whoop style quad with its stabilizing functionality!
@@AerRider I prefer practice over stabilized flight mode... I had a DJI FPV and have mavic air 2 and not a big fan of automation :)
Do you fly acro or horizon mode inside?
Hey Matt are you still in Korea?
Cool videos
Thanks!
Frankly speaking Video 😎😎😎👍. Such a nice way u explained it. I want to tey GoPro 10 on a drone. Could you please suggest me GEPRC is good option ?
Check out the last review I did on the Cinelog 25. There are pros and cons to using a naked camera but sometimes it's worth it!
set a throttle expo to have more controllable height
On the Qr code maker is shutter 180° the same as a shutter speed of 60? So on your qr code did you lock shutter on 180 for this shoot?
Yea that's right, 180 degree shutter is 1/60 If you're shooting in 30 frames per second.
Hey Matt! The shots looks really nice and profesional, congrats! could you share your setting for this type of indoor flights? thanks!
The rates on the quad were surprisingly just stock. I might do a go pro settings video soon though
@@MattPochwat wow! Yeah, I think that a GoPro settings video will help a lot of people, can’t wait for it :) Btw, you were flying Acro mode? or horizon?
@@ozevns always acro
@@MattPochwat Thank you! btw, is your Instagram page down?
@@ozevns Yea. Hopefully I can get it back soon
Damn Matt.. what is IG doing to you? I need you for inspiration.
how you make the naked gopro read the QR code? QR code app? show me, i pushed the bell now !!
Are you still in Korea? I thought you moved home 😅
Great shots and congrats on the big client shoot!
Yup, I'm in Canada now! This was a final project I did before leaving
I’m also using betafpv360 camera on drone. How do you adjust the video quality it records in? My footage is sometimes hd sometimes really low quality. Thanks
I've actually never used the Betafpv / insta360 naked camera. This one is the GepRC Naked Hero 8. Not sure what the workflow is like on that one!
what rates?
I'm a little confused about the comment about frame rate and how that relates to the amount of light getting into the camera? Do you run auto shutter? Or do you do the 180° rule so your shutter speed is changing relative to your FPS (2:1 shutter speed to FPS)? Looks like your naked GoPro has an ND filter, couldn't you use a lower number ND filter to get more light? Sorry for the confusion, I just never knew FPS affects light in the shot.
No, you're right! So I always shoot following the 180 rule and it's not the increased frame rate, but the increased shutter speed that goes along with it which would limit the light. In my head I just always look at them as one combined pair. So if I was shooting at 60fps, I'd have a 1/120 shutter which would limit the light. There was no ND filter on the camera during this shoot
@@MattPochwat That makes sense. Thank you and keep the great vids coming.
This is going to sound like such a noob question but nobody seems to acknowledge it - for these flythroughs are you flying in angle or acro? Thanks so much!
always acro
Thanks for the tips, super handy to know for shoots like this 👍 , btw would love to BTS too pls
I know... That would have been great. Unfortunately I couldn't get any BTS clips during this shoot
@@MattPochwat no worries , with your skills I’m sure you’ll get tons of shoots like this and hopefully I can wait for one coming up, I’m certain 😊
what mode do you fly for your footage?
Always acro
Nice job Matt!
How much do ou think is possible to charge for a video like this? It is something new and people somtimes do not understanding why they must pay too much for that...
I would argue quite the opposite. Because it's new and much more specialized than photography or regular videography, you can actually charge more for your services. How much you charge exactly would depend on a lot of factors though. I'm going to do more research and maybe make a video on that.
@@MattPochwat thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. You are totally right, I agree with you. And I try to explain it to my clients. Just to give you an ideia, I'm charging something around $400,00 (I imagine that it is cheap, isn't it?) I can't wait to see your video talking about it. Thank you so much for sharing knowledge. God bless you.
@@DPGuinhO87 I'm not sure where you live, but if you are somewhere in North America, $400 would be far too low. Email me at mattpochwat@gmail.com and I'll link you to some information that I've found
Hi, acro or level mode for internal shooting?
Always acro
@@MattPochwat thanks!!!🤗
quick question. Here in Canada, do you need a licence to sell drone footage?
I have another question. The micro usb connecter fell off of my drone's flight controller, do you know a place that could possibly fix it?
How much do you charge?