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I feel like nobody has a problem with it until their team loses to one with a worse record. I personally like how unsuspecting teams are able to make a push. It makes it interesting how any team can break out. Edit: To those pointing out how the 162 game season means less by allowing more teams in, that’s actually a valid point. Just because a team barely makes wild card and then gets hot at the right time doesn’t necessarily mean they deserve to be there. I left this comment right when the video came out before even watching it and did not expect a whole debate below it haha
Playoff baseball is obviously special for some reason, so increasing the number of games is a good thing. You just can't have 162 also, it's too many games period. I hate how long and pointless the regular season is. Sick of seeing the Dodgers win 105 games only to get bounced by some inferior team. Cut it back to 144 and then you can expand the postseason a little bit further still. The 3-game series are kind of stupid imo.
@@guyincognito320If the Dodgers are so good they shouldn’t be getting bounced by an “inferior” team Maybe they should get their shit together in October instead of blaming it on a playoff format
@@MidnightScoutThat's such horseshit it's amazing. They did get it together. All season. Which is why they're the #2. But we've got clowns like you who think 5 games means more than 162.
I guarantee you if a big market team like the yankees went on a run as a wild card like the rangers or diamondbacks, we wouldn't be seeing the media suddenly questioning the playoff format and calling it unfair.
One part of this I don't get at all is why MLB doesn't put all the playoff games in prime time. Are they really so interested in the mega-fan who's going to sit down and watch the entire quadruple-header on a Tuesday that they're willing to accept a fairly high probability that fans who have full-time jobs might be unable to catch _any_ of the games in their team's postseason run?
they had 4 games on one day, they didn't want to put all 4 games on at 7 and 8 o'clock so they spaced them out at 2 o'clock, 4:30, then 7:00, then 8:00
No one cares about Baseball enough to warrant networks putting it in primetime slots. There's better content for that that'll actually be watched by wider audiences.
As someone from tampa, the problem with the Rays is that the field is an hour and a half from downtown tampa. They are across the bridge in St. Petersburg and trying to get there during rush hour is unimaginable. I moved to Tampa in 2005 and Tropicana field has not changed since at least then. Also the Rays don’t engage the fans as much, with the Tampa Bay Lightning, they do a lot more to keep the crowd engaged and make the fans want to come back. The Rays seem to show up, play a game, and you go home. It lacks the experience of going to a game so nobody wants to go
I was surprised you didnt talk about the Home and Away structure of a series. Havine a 2-3-2 structure is a HUGE advantage to the lower seeded team. If they can manage to steal just one game in the first two games at the home of the higher seed, then having the major advantage for the next three games is in sane to me. The NHL and NBA's structure of 2-2-1-1-1 because its fair and then it gives the home advantage for the higher seed on game 7 if needed.
did you watch the playoffs this year? 😅 away team won all the games in the alcs and az had to win two on the road to finish their series. the higher seeded team still has the home field in game 7s with the current set up
The NBA actually does a 2-3-2 for the finals. It makes makes it more likely that the higher seed is at home for the deciding game. Almost half of NBA finals have ended on Game 6 over the last 20 years. Without the 2-3-2, this would mean the higher ranked team winning their championship and "celebrating" on the other teams court in front of the other team's fan on Game 6 wins.
That used to be me, but the channels you listed single-handedly got me WAY more into baseball than I ever was the NFL. This year I’ve watched exactly ONE NFL game. I’ve stopped following football almost entirely at this point. Baseball is just the superior, more entertaining sport in every single way.
This channel got me back into baseball so much that I attended 6 games this year and followed the season. Wouldn't have happened without BDE. The MLB should be subsidizing him.
@@wetwrkinc.5122 if you like the game, yes. Just get a good buzz going and talk to the people near you. I went with friends and they annoyed me because I was trying to watch my Cubbies and they were constantly talking to me lmao
I was lucky enough to be in Clearwater for work during the Rays playoff games, then I found out all the games were at 3pm and couldn’t go. 15 minutes away from the Trop. That start time killed me.
If you’re that good team you shouldn’t have to worry about the wild card teams. Just makes things more interesting and gives a chance for the world series to host someone else for a change instead of something like the Astros being in 5 times in the last 6 years. Gets pretty boring.
It’s crazy how quickly it’s over. You dominate all year, plan all season for the playoffs, go through the long grind and marathon of a season, and then in 2 days it’s over and you go home. That being said, baseball playoffs have always been unpredictable and wild card teams often win it all.
The wildcard team winning it all used to be impressive though. The Marlins actually had to fight and earn their spot in the wildcard. They then went on to beat division winners along the way to winning two World Series. These modern World Series will never be as impressive bc of this watered down format smh.
"The postseaon partially explained why baseball was so uniquely resistant to the fruits of of scientific research... It was that the season ended in a giant crapshoot" - Moneyball
Facts. As a Cardinals fan, the best Cardinals team of my life was probably the 2004 team who were swept in the WS. Then in contrast the 2006 team had the worst record of any team to ever win the WS. They were ice cold heading into the playoffs. Baseball being unpredictable is what makes the playoffs so fun to watch. It has always been anyone’s game once you get in.
@@davidkelty7688 How is it not impressive? If anything it should be more impressive. Its a worse team than the old format but still beating the monster teams. Playoff format is no excuse for getting dominated. Good teams show up in big games. Astros aren't complaining because they show up. Its simple as that. Teams beat better teams all the time in baseball, that's what makes baseball and the playoffs so unpredictable and exciting. To blame the losses only because days off is crazy. No teams would willingly chose to be in the WC games and potential elimination vs getting the rotation lined up.
You touched on a lot of great points: The 'rest' issue, talking smack about another team/player, Tropicana Field, and the playoff structure. They even played the playoffs with a rest day between games. Not done in the regular season. Some players thrive off challenges. No reason to get one of the best players fired up. Especially in the post season. No matter how you structure the post season, the teams that come up short will complain.
You mean fired up by pointing out the biggest mistake of his career. A mistake that little leaguers are taught not to make, is that what gets a player mad? Pointing out that he's an idiot?
That was a rogue reporter putting out something that should not have been. Something they were doing among teammates in the heat of the moment. NOT meant to be taken out and shared with the public.
@@atlnla4112 Absolutely false. If you talk shit in a room full of reporters and cameras, you don't get to whine if it gets out. There are many places and times where reporters aren't around if you don't want remarks to be made in public. Spencer Strider is the only person with the guts to call it like it is. If you want to move on, play better. The rest of the nonsense coming from the Braves and their fans is just whining because you got your doors blown off in the playoffs. Best offense in baseball shit their pants, talked shit and then cried about that too.
It’s a joke that the diamondbacks are in the playoffs in the first place. They barely played .500 ball, but they get a chance to play for a championship? What’s the point of playing 162 games? What are we even doing here?
A 1 game playoff and a 3 game regular series is insane to me... especially after 162 games. I was so hyped for the Brewers.. they looked like such a complete team and it meant absolutely nothing 💔
I'm fine with the super short series for the Wild Card round (and would actually even prefer the one game single elimination format to the three there), but I don't want teams who win their division to get subjected to the super short series. So yeah, it's crazy that the Brewers didn't even get a chance to play in the LDS round despite clearly being the best team in their division and winning more games than any of the teams left in the playoffs. I want shorter series for team who get in as Wild Card (exposing them to the randomness) and longer series for the division winners.
@@MatthewGross87that's the reward you get for ending with the best or 2nd best record. The Brewers and Twins won weak divisions and ended with the same or less wins than some of the wildcard teams.
They had a best of 3 series (2 games possibly 3)and choked. I'm a brewers fan and was there (unlike you) and I was hurt but not once blamed the format. They have choked for years. I've seen it before. Anyone that starts out a comment with the phrase that ends with "is crazy" is a complete dumbass
12 fucking teams in the God damn playoffs after 162 fucking games is insane to me. You play 162 mother fucking games and they punish the best teams by shitting all over their momentum and then let in mediocre clubs who can just get hot at the right time.
Another issue regarding the Rays and sports fandoms in Florida as a whole I really wish people not from Florida would realize is that most Floridians are not from Florida. A state of 22 million people with probably only like 1/10th of that population being actual native Floridians, you're not gonna find a lot of passionate fans of Florida teams unless they are uber successful like the Lightning, Heat, and our biggest D1 colleges. Fans of the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Chicago teams, etc. will move to FL but refuse to give up those fandoms which have like a century years' worth of traditions and passion associated. Baseball in FL is great for training & Northern teams to have a vacation but not for developing a fanbase.
I’m a first-generation Floridian (meaning I was born and raised in Florida, but my parents were from other states; my mom was born in Maine and raised there and Massachusetts and came to Florida as an adult, while my dad was born in Indiana and moved down to Florida when he was about 10 years old), and this is actually pretty true when it comes to Florida sports. Just using my family as an example, the only Florida sports teams I’m actually a fan of are the Miami Dolphins (primarily because my dad grew up a fan) and the Orlando Magic (which is the only major professional sports team in Central Florida, where I’m from). Otherwise, most of the teams I tend to support are either from Boston (Red Sox for baseball, Bruins for hockey) or Chicago (primarily the Cubs, which was my paternal grandmother’s favorite team; she sadly didn’t live to see them break their World Series curse). My dad is a lifelong Atlanta Braves fan because he came to Florida when that was the only baseball team broadcasting their games in Central Florida. Before the late ‘80s or so, the only major sports teams in Florida were the Dolphins and the Buccaneers. Point being, most of the sports leagues haven’t had teams here long enough to really develop a fan base across Florida, and because so many of us have only had our families here for a couple of generations, there isn’t really much generational fandom of the Florida-based teams, and we tend to gravitate more towards teams from states or regions where we have family roots. You’re more likely to see a Red Sox or Yankees fan in most parts of Florida than a Rays or Marlins fan (unless you’re right in the vicinity of Tampa - and the city’s name is Tampa, *not* Tampa Bay - or Miami).
lol I just moved to Orlando area and your spot on or in my areas case a lot of the residents are Latinos who mostly don’t care about our sports let alone speak English
Totally. I’ve been saying that forever, and I’m 4th generation. Spring training has always been a big deal in FL because snowbirds could see their local teams play with palm trees in the background. I went to 4 Rays games this year, and probably half the fans were wearing the colors of the visiting team. MLB just doesn’t work here, I’m sad to admit
As a Tampa native I keep having to tell everyone it's not that we dont care. It's that we aren't even in the same vicinity as our team. There's only 2 bridges that are packed constantly connecting st pete and tampa. You literally gave to plan your entire day around getting to the park. I live in Tampa and im 1.5 hours from the stadium 😢
@ryanchase9332 location is definitely everything. We (the Rockies) have arguably one of the worst owners, awful product on the field, but because we have one of the most easily accessible stadiums because of our public rail whose hub is right in front of the stadium. We'll always have fans in the stands assuming the weather isn't shit.
Lmk when the stadium gets moved. Traffic is an issue. I'm a drays lifer but never lived in Tampa, and even I know this. Its f-ing annoying bro. No one understands how much of an issue just getting into and out of the stadium is. That's the #1 reason why we have such shitty numbers in the stands.
@@ryanchase9332cheap and constantly the best or one of the best teams in baseball. Amazing that someone would even consider critiquing arguably the best franchise in NA sports.
I live here and I'd rather go to St. Pete than Ybor, you gotta be kidding right? Last time I counted there are three bridges crossing over from Tampa and another coming from the South. Also St. Pete isn't on an island.
Due to this channel and a few others, my love for baseball returned. So much so, that I decided to watch my former team, the Atlanta Braves and see what all the fuss was about. Four games later they were out. So thanks for reminding me how much hurt my Braves used to give me. Too bad I didn't see them win the world series a few years ago. This channel is awesome.
In the Ray's defense, the first playoff game of the season was scheduled at 3pm on a weekday. They were screwed from the start on attendance. Speaking from my experience, most of my coworkers were pissed they missed going to the game and also couldn't even watch the broadcast cause we were all AT WORK. I know a few people that bought tickets before they announced the time, and then ended up getting a refund cause they couldn't miss work. Just poor timing on MLB's part. Kinda unfair to Rays and Rangers fans :/
Also a huge factor in appearing to look so empty was opening the 300s without knowing our timeslot. This spread out the 19k (myself included) horribly, for no good or real reason.
@@eyeofhorus99 reminder it's TAMPA BAY not Tampa :) they play in St Pete, and I'm not making excuses I made it to both games. There's no good will towards the 20k people who did make it happen lmfao.
Honestly as someone who got into baseball after hockey, the fact that any playoff round is less than a best of 7 is insane to me. 162 games in the regular season only for a best of 3 to determine a winner. Ridiculous. No problem with a wider playoff field, good teams will still rise to the top. Houston didn't have a problem making it through WC and DS... And maybe Philly pushing through the braves two years in a row says something about them being good lol
When I heard the Brewers were "swept" in two games, I realized why I stopped watching baseball decades ago. Nothing in this sport at the professional level makes sense. I'll just stick to hockey (lets be real here -- the superior sport).
@@Hick25 I look at it this way: One game decides who's the best team in that moment, A 7-game series will tell you who the better team is overall. These 3-game series end up being showing people the worst of both one game eliminations and 7 game series.
I like 5 game series. You see every starting pitcher and bullpen depth. If every series was a 7 game series it would be hell on the pitching staff and make for an absurdly long postseason with a wierd schedule as teams win at different times.
The only issue I’ve had with the playoffs is the horrific time slots they choose to play the games. You pointed out Rays-TX, the first playoff series and you scheduled both games mid afternoon. As I rangers fan I was furious bc I had to listen to the games while at work rather than sitting down on my couch to watch. Then Orioles series game one is scheduled at noon on Saturday, right in the middle of TX-OU. It’s like MLB doesn’t care about tv ratings at all…next day scheduled mid afternoon during NFL Sunday. I understand there’s going to be some conflict this time of year, but it’s like they went out of their way to compete with football. Another awful example, they scheduled both ALDS games back to back on FOX, well what happened? Rangers- Orioles got delayed, so now Astros and Twins have to get pushed onto FS2 when they could have just had one of their NLDS games scheduled and there would have been no issues. Absolutely foolish by MLB.
They also put Astros-Twins at 7 in competition with SNF with the Cowboys. Course that game wasnt much of a watch but still why would you willingly try to compete with SNF?
I feel like changing the DS rounds to a 7 game series instead of 5 will mostly fix this “issue”. It allows the rested teams to get in a groove and more accurately shows who the better team is.
No. The best playoff format was eight teams, with a five game division series and one wild card team per league, then a seven game LCS, then WS. We do not need any more than that.
Admittedly as an os fan, when you have a horse in the race it feels different but as unbiased as I can be, the playoff orioles were not the same team from the regular season. The dodgers and braves clearly looked off too. Yes, upsets happen but these aren’t really upsets, they’re blowouts. If players and coaches are saying it feels like a problem, even guys who aren’t in playoffs, than I think it’s at least warranted
Players and managers are emotional after a loss and going to look for excuses. Long term data is really the only thing reliable to look at in these instances.
I mean our pitching was horrendous and first big flaw, if that was better think we could've held on to some momentum better, so mostly referring to that those sunday and tuesday games.
Jays gm Atkins traded away the cleanup batter, lineup protection, & most rbi's on the team, didn't replace any, & when the problem was OBVIOUS at the trade deadline refused to address the issue HE CREATED! He can't go soon enough! It will take YEARS to repair the damage he has done to the franchise 🤬
Also no one mentions that the 100+ win teams all clinched weeks ago. Wouldn't the fact that they hadnt played meaningful baseball in a month have more of an effect than 5 days off?
I stopped watching baseball a few years ago. This format does not reward the best teams during the entire season, but only rewards those teams who get hot the last month.
This has been known, it feels like I’m living in la la land with ppl only now talking about this. As a Nats fan, I watched this happen in 2012, 14, 16, and 17. Each year they won the East, waited 4-5 days, then lost in the NLDS. In 2019, they went through the wild card, and ended up winning the WS Not saying the format should change, but hitters can easily go cold on a rest
Yeah and unless I misheard he quoted teams with 2 days or more of rest being successful historically. 2 days of rest is probably good. 5, definitely not. It’s a poor comparison to make in the article, and then reference it.
the format was different, there was only 1 wild card play in game back then. and in 2012 you played against the defending champion cardinals... the Phillies won 102 in 2011 and lost to the cardinals... it happens. its not a format thing. I visited the hall of fame this weekend and there is a quote from 1982 that they are 2 different sports: The summer game and the autumn. One is the leisurely pastime of our national mythology. the other is not so gentle. anything can happen and that is a great thing
Yeah im sure teams would willingly rather play the WC games and risk elimination vs getting the by and pitching lined up.... Im sick of people blaming the format completely when their 'better team' loses. That's baseball, even the worst teams win 60 games. Anything can happen in the playoffs, that's what makes baseball so interesting. Not saying the format is perfect but good teams show up and deal with it. Astros aren't here complaining.
The seeding could make more sense, but coming from a lifelong Braves fan, it doesn't really matter if your bats don't show up when it matters most. I would like 7 game series all the way through though...
There is a reason the bats didn’t show up for 3 of the 4 teams with 5 or more days rest and the one that can hit is the one that was caught cheating 7 years ago.
I agree on the 7 game series, except wild card, that should go back to 1. So much more exciting. And quit staggering the al/nl games, make it all line up!
As a brewers fan, even though it hurts like hell to lose like they did, I still support this new system. I love how every team has a chance to flip the bracket upside down, it feels so much more high stakes. I get why people wouldn't like it, but personally I love it
This year's playoffs have me desiring the pre-1970s: the AL and NL team with their league's best regular season record immediately win the pennant, and proceed directly to the World Series.
Congrats on having the worst take I've seen on this whole debate so far. That format was already flawed in a 20-team league, and now you want it implemented in a 30-team league? Having less than a tenth of the league represented in a 2-team playoff makes absolutely no sense and reeks of blind nostalgia.
@@JDAWG2111I don't see the point of playing 162 games in what has become a glorified qualifying round. How many people would stay interested in the soccer World Cup if the group stages were 162 games long? If it's to be a tournament, skip the regular season and just line up all the teams for single elimination.l
The Rays franchise made a huge mistake by doubling down in St. Pete. They would at least be selling out playoff games in Orlando. They would retain whatever tiny fan base they already have in the Tampa area, and Orlando wants them. The Blue Jays are also trippin' by doubling down on Schneider as their manager for '24
I personally think the last playoff format was the best one because it put an emphasis on the importance of being on top of your division after 162 games. You win the division, you are rewarded with a bye - you win a bunch of games but can't finish in first, you are allowed in, but have the pressure of winning an "anything goes" one-game playoff to advance. A division title is something special for fans of multiple teams who don't win so often and should be rewarded. The current playoff format emphasizes solely winning, where the only way of getting a bye is to finish in the top two in your league. It works with the NFL's 17-game season but is not appropriate for the grueling MLB schedule in my opinion. MLB got it right with the two-team wild card format but screwed up by adding the third wild card.
@@Mieslk2 but the regular season never meant anything in the playoffs. it’s a completely different game and way to play. if you can win 100+ games in the regular season then why did you lose to a 91 team to begin with? both sides are understandable
I never said it did. All I said was that the division title is not advantageous anymore because they include about 45% of the MLB in the playoffs. what's the point of winning your division when you can just squeak with a mediocre record and hope to get hot and catch the division winner off guard? @@kayla9839
I think it’s more than just the rest days. The teams with the best records began to coast at the end of the regular season whereas the Astros and the wild card teams all had to fight and compete right up to the end. They kept their edge and built momentum. The big record teams, Braves, Dodgers and Orioles (even the rays to an extent) were all able to take the foot of the gas because they were through and then the rest just exacerbated their coasting and they totally lost all momentum
This channel helped me go back to baseball and I went to all the Astros home games during the playoffs and 30 regular season games. Thank you for giving me back the love of baseball.
you should also take into account that Florida got smacked with hurricanes this year. I'm sure a lot more fans would have loved to attend but they simply couldn't do the financial burden of the weather they had to endure. just my 2 cents
Nope I as well as 200k fans signed a petition to get the new stadium built across the bridge but the dumbass owners are building a new one right next door literally no one wants to cross the bridge for any reason. I hope they build this 100 million dollar stadium and lose their asses
You make great videos! Grammer lesson of the day = the use of "less" vs "fewer". Use less when referring to amounts (like time and volume) and fewer when referring to numbers (like how many players or games). Basically, if you can count it, use fewer, if you can't, use less. Ie: There have never been fewer people in attendance and therefore there has never been less beer consumed at a post season game. You can count the number of people but you can't count the volume of beer. You could also say they drank fewer liters of beer because you can count liters. "After the game it took them less time and needed fewer mop buckets to clean up because there was less vomit". You can count the mop buckets but you cant count time or vomit.
33 year old twin fan here. They win the series in 91 when I was 1 year old. Than came the longest playoff losing streak. Felt good to get to "round 2" lol just like a twins fan... we'll get em next year!!
36 year old Indians fan. What's worse? Seeing them lose 3 world series' (to the Marlins and CUBS) and blowing a 3-1 LCS lead to Boston in 07 and countless more Division Series? Or just letting you off the hook from too much heartbreak like the Twins? Lol Either way, it's painful.
Never have I seen with a bigger home field advantage then what the Phillies right now. Citizens bank is the most electric place in the country when the Phil’s play!
@jdpxxprcxxswr the Phillies also had the LARGEST attendance increase in the MLB this year. Averaging 22k in 2022... so my point still stands, support your team more. And I like the Cubs, giants and braves. Uk baseball fan here.
I’m not sure how I feel. I kinda like the day games in the wild card round but I mostly don’t since it makes watching at work kinda hard. And the bye teams choking is kinda boring but it’s also nice seeing some new teams instead of just always being between the Astros, dodgers and Braves every year. But as a Dbacks fan im stoked and I got my World Series ticket already!
Regarding the Rays, a big part of why we don’t have a lot of fans at their games is because the team plays in St. Petersburg. No matter what anyone says to make St. Pete sound good for the Rays, keeping them there is arguably one of the worst things to do for the team because it is extremely hard to get there. Another reason why our playoff games were in such low attendance this year was because if I remember correctly, they played at 3 pm on weekdays. People work and go to school. It was a really poor choice of time for our games along with just getting there in the first place. If they moved the team to Tampa, attendance would look a lot better.
Arizona shouldn’t be a playoff team. For 99% of MLB history they wouldn’t have made it. Manfred changed the rules so we have nearly half the league making the playoffs now . Baseball should be the division winners and 1 wildcard. All these wildcards is ruining the entire point of a 162 game regular season.
I miss the days of two leagues and four divisions. The AL never played the NL except for exhibitions and the World Series. The World Series (granted through the eyes of myself as a kid) had a lot more mystique than it does today.
I’ve known that too much rest completely messes up teams since 07 when the Rockies got swept by Boston in the World Series after sweeping every single team they faced to get there. If I remember correctly they waited for 12 days for Boston to finish their semifinal series cuz it went 6-7 games. Boston absolutely rolled them. CO was the hottest team in the postseason until they got rest
@@pedrorendon9390 Yeah as a CO native that might be the most heartbreaking sports moment in our state’s history. The Rockies will never be good again. Their owner has said publicly he doesn’t care about winning, only selling tickets and hotdogs. That was the only hope we ever had at a title in the MLB.
The same thing has happened to the tigers twice. In ‘06 and ‘12 they swept alcs to get bounced in the World Series by teams that played hard fought seven game series. It’s not impossible to overcome a break but it definitely seems to be a factor more times than not.
I definitely didn’t like the one game wild card. I like the format they had from the early ‘90’s thru the 2010’s the most. One wild card team and that one team moves on to the divisional round with the three division winners.
I think 2 WC teams was fine. Exactly 1/3rd make the playoffs. Best of 3 instead of 1 game, but start the division series immediately after the WC round ends on Thursday and play on Friday. Anyways with current format. I think the teams with a bye should seriously consider holding a scrimmage game or 2 with their AAA club or something to keep the rhythm going.
Wasn't like 2012 and both the al and nl had 2 ties for the wild card so there was a game 163 for both divisions? That was the beginning of the one game wildcard?
Great video. From the Braves standpoint it comes down to the Phillies. Some teams just have other teams numbers regardless of their regular season record. The Braves were 5-8 and 58-74 runs in the regular season. I’m not sure about the other #1 seed teams. Although the Braves were the #3 seed in 2021 when they won it all. But there was no long bye.
I still preferred the 1 game elimination round with 2 WC teams. It takes away from the final stretch divisional/wc race a bit. Also, if there is a home field advantage in a five game series. its not much of one. The moment the home adv team loses one at home the cards are flipped. The home field adv in a sense goes to the other team. In a game 7 series, 2-3-2 I feel like is a better format for the DS round. MLB is happy with the TV $.
This format is true in every sport, im a huge hockey fan and while they do 2 2 1 1 instead of 2 3 2 the mantra always is we just have to steal one win away and we have home field advantage, if home field is such a big advantage then certainly being able to potentially go up 2 0 is a great advantage isn't it? I mean idk what people want, 4 games straight at home for the higher seed and the last 3 away if they don't sweep? Seeding is supposed to give you an advantage but it can't be a huge advantage or else it would just be the same exact teams winning every year, acuna is a .250 playoff hitter not terrible not great you either have guys that showup for the playoffs or you don't
A bye week in the NFL makes sense, however this game is played every hot summer day. If they wanted to expand then expand it in powers of 2....maybe 16 teams, which would be 4 rounds. And even then make it 5-5-7-7 game series. And reseed after each round.
In football and basketball, while it may happen, it's rare to see an 8 seed beat a 1 seed. In baseball it's all the time. Regular season doesn't matter and whoever is hot at the end wins and it's random af. In football, it doesn't matter how hot the 8 seed gets.
Way to fix this is to make all the rounds best of 7. At least first round best of 5 and then best of 7 but then the top teams would have long layoff so can’t win. I would consider getting rid of the byes.
Look at the win% of the top teams in those leagues. Baseball has significantly more parity than either of those leagues. What’s funny is that football and basketball fans complain about the lack of parity while baseball fans complain about too much parity. At the end of the day people just complain.
@@itsnick37 wouldn't guarantee anything. NHL has every playoff be best of seven and No. 1 seeds go down all the time. Twice in the last five years the NHL has seen a team break the record for most regular season wins and then lose in the first round. And everyone says that's why hockey has the best postseason while everyone in baseball wants to complain because the playoffs aren't a formality.
The Astros did just fine with their days off. It's not the formats fault imo. Between 2 teams there were 4 MVP caliber players that just didn't show up for their teams when they needed them.
What were the Astros doing on the side of the bracket with the two worst records in the AL playoffs while the 101 won Orioles were on the same side as the 99 win Rays and 90 win Rangers? It is totally balked. Totally
Every round but the wildcard round should be a best of 7. I truly don’t understand why it’s not when other sports like hockey and basketball have it so every round is a best of 7 and they have way shorter seasons too.
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Speaking as a Rays fan and former resident of the area, the stadium is in the worst part of the city for crime. But yes, your other factors did play a role as well. Im also sure that the fans knew that the Rays were decimated by the late season injury bug and were not going to be a peak ability come playoffs, so no one was going to go see them lose. We know the players are swapped out each year, we learn the new players each year. We are loyal to the team, not the players typically.
@@smitmastaflex Yep, dont feeling like being mugged and murdered after going to watch a baseball game. I get NYC and Boston fans go to the games and sell out those series, theyre used to it. People in north Pinellas county who have the money to go and like baseball, they arent up for that shenanigans. That area of the county is a heavy football type atmosphere who dont give a rip about baseball.
@@Ryan-cb1ei Cant fully argue with that. But these are young guys that should have more stamina and fuel in the tank. Getting hurt come game 155 and being out for 3 months shouldnt be happening to 22 y/o so frequently. IDK, I dont think a new stadium will help with the playoffs, but a better location should help with attendance.
i was actually at game 2 of the tampa game i was going as a orlando tourist the were actually pretty wild it was 90 mins from orlando and about 45 from tampa
It's called win and don't suck especially if you have a 100 or more wins. It just goes to show that now anyone who gets in as a wildcard can have a chance to make it to the World Series. It gives baseball more chances to make money and the fans will show up unless you are the Rays.
A 3 game playoff series is absolutely too short for baseball. A 5 game series is probably too short for baseball but at least then the whole pitching rotation can have a go.
I still can't believe baseball doesn't have 4 rounds of best of 7 series. Hockey stopped best of 5 in the first round back in the mid 80s. Best thing they ever did.
like most other sports, MLB is trying to make the regular season mean less and less by letting everyone in the playoffs. i hate it so much. ALL SPORTS need to shrink the playoff field not expand it.
@@Zark_Moneybags69 I'm offended at someone thinking I'm a dodgers fan. Who I'm a fan of isn't even relevant. For example, I'm a buckeyes fan in college football so the expanded playoffs means we are gonna be in basically every year and I still hate it.
11:17 It would be a seismometer that would measure seismic activity (with a seismograph being the result). The Richter Scale is not an instrument, it's more or less the system or standard for placing seismic events into different magnitude classes.
People who complain about the fact that higher seeds lose a lot in the MLB Playoffs haven’t seen hockey. It’s not uncommon to see top seeds in the Stanley Cup Playoffs to lose.
I think this is all a good thing. Growing up it would be the same teams advancing to the playoffs and would be such an unpleasant time to watch even if it was my team going all the way. I like the idea of helping the littler teams and shaking the shit out of the big dogs like the dodgers. Adds more thrill and shows money can’t buy wins!
It seems to me the only problem is the layoff the division winners face after they clinch. They have a tendency to relax, and rest certain players for a long time. Eventually, they will figure out a way to simulate games to keep their players sharp and ready for the division series. They could play against minor league teams or intrasquad to keep sharp.
Correct and the solution is to stop expanding the playoffs. Only 4 teams from each league should make it. You play 162 fucking games. There's no need for 12 playoff teams.
seems odd that 5 days off would create a problem, houston seems to handle it fine. seems to me they could bring in a bunch of their minor league pitchers for daily bp to keep the bats going or something like that if its really a problem
@Tin5674 Jackass comment. 75% of the teams with byes went down and you say, well 25% made it so what's the problem? The exception doesn't usurp the rule. Oh, and where's Houston now? Oh, they ran into a a fucking 5th seed that got hot by NOT getting a bye. The 4 best teams went down in their first series. The playoffs are all luck. MLB is the only league that punishes the best best by killing their momentum. The #6 seed has won the NL for the second straight year. Baseball is officially a Bush League. These jackasses will probably expand the playoffs again. It's about money. That's it. Integrity is out the window.
@@FAITHandLOGIC lol ya Houston got beat by a team with the same record they had in the same division, crazy! This playoff season and the series is the most fun series in the last 15 years since the steroid crackdown. Yes vaseball is bush league becasue they dont have a hard cap and teams keep buying players. its nice to see new teams in the playoffs and winning, having the same 8 teams in every year is boring.
The problem is more teams in the playoffs means more reason the regular season doesn't matter, in a sport that is losing viewership because young think the game is "boring" that isn't good.
@davidfox9947 lot of questions about that. Playoff viewership or regular season? Were the pitch clock and other similar rules changes the reason? Was viewership just because there were more games in the playoffs? Data is weird.
Eh, I’d say the regular season still wouldn’t matter any more than it does now. If you don’t make the playoffs, your season is basically a wash. But that’s how I feel about every sport…the regular season is about making it to the postseason; championship or bust.
What sport isn't this true in ultimately? More times then not the number 1 seed doesn't win it all. I've seen it in hockey plenty of times where the lower seeds beat the higher seeds and you end up with wild matchups and they have no excuse because they all play the same amount of 7 game series. It's just bitter fans that can't get over it because yes it does suck to lose after your team had a great season but it happens in every sport. I could see an argument that the DS should be 7 games sure but zero of the teams eliminated was that going to even matter.
It used to be the National League pennant winner faced off against the American League pennant winner in a best of 7 World Series making it a really special event that EVERY baseball fan watched, whether their team was in it or not. And the season was over in EARLY October. Now, it's dragged on and on and on to into NOVEMBER and gets to the point of absolute boredom, except for SOME of the teams with avid fans, while the rest of the country (including yours truly) couldn't care less. The endless expansions have made MLB way too confusing as well, allowing mediocre teams to even possibly make it to, and worse, win the World Series...no more "may the best team win" I guess.
@Bryan123483 I went to Cincinnati to see the Phillies & Reds fans were one of my favorite out of all the ballparks I’ve been to! They reminded me of Philly because they’ll just start conversations & were funny.
I think the problem is the division leaders have their spot more or less locked up early and can ease up, meanwhile the wild cards have to fight to the very end, so of course they're coming in hot. Maybe the leaders should give themselves a goal to keep pushing, like 110 wins, though that didn't help the dodgers I also want to take this opportunity to pitch my wild card idea: since let's be honest they shouldn't be here, wc game 1 is the day after game 162. The next day is a double header if need be, motivation to win in 2. The next day the division series start. Only 2 days off for the leaders, wild cards come in running on fumes
I like your idea. I have a few of my own with some modifications with the doubleheader idea. Unless a game is postponed with rain and one is needed, playoff doubleheaders hurts the wild card team’s bullpen 1. Start the best of 3 wild card series the day after the last day of the regular season. Unless there must be a game that has playoff seedings, starting the wild card series giving the wild card teams no off days saves the bye teams 1 day 2. Reseed the wild card teams after the wild card series is over cuz #2 vs #6 and #1 vs #4 seed divisional series doesn’t make sense and this one should be done next year 3. If all the wild card series is over after game 2 or #3 vs #6 series are over and reseeding is done, then start the divisional series days afterwards. Ex. Instead of starting the divisional series this year on Saturday, they should start on Friday. If they start the wild card series on Monday and all of them or both of the 3 vs 6 series are over Tuesday, then the Divisional series can start Thursday. If a 4 vs 5 series is over after 2 games and the 3 vs 6 series has a game 3 and reseeding is done, then the divisional series should start 2 days after the last wild card series is over. 4. If a playoff round is over early like this year in the AL, they should’ve started the ALCS on Saturday instead of Sunday. In other words, if possible, reduce the amount of off days between playoff rounds so the World Series doesn’t end in November
2019 was the best example in support of the WC round (at least the 1 gm. format). The Nationals were arguably the best team in the league at the end of the season, but due to the 19-31 start, ended up with 93 wins and the WC. That's *4 months* of being hot, with a record on par with the Dodgers and Astros. They beat the Brewers in WC, Dodgers in the DS, destroyed the Cardinals in the CS, and beat the Astros in the WS. The system with the 1 game WC is fine (though I would like a 7 game DS).
I do believe 5 days off is too long for hitters. Pitching is the only thing that benefits. Wild card teams are able to keep their bats hot. Notice how every team that had to wait, suddenly couldnt hit fastballs anymore? That goes beyond "a team just went cold" or "a pitcher dominated". We've seen both of those happen numerous times in the past so that will always be a thing. But since this new format, teams with the extended break cant catch up to fastballs anymore even from guys who arent known for it. Not to mention division series only being 3 of 5 instead of 4 of 7 is absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some squads who may be in a tight race at the end, purposely pull back to let another team win the division so they can keep playing and not go cold. The numbers are there. And we all know how much baseball loves numbers these days.
As an Orioles fan I don't think the rest was a negative factor. The Orioles were already struggling at the plate going into the playoffs. Also Texas had veterans who had been there before that contributed hugely. If it was Texas/Baltimore straight out of the season I don't think the result would have changed.
Fundamental value of baseball: best teams are revealed by large samples (way bigger than any other sport). The only fair way to reward teams that excelled over 162 games is to give them a bigger playoff advantage over much weaker teams.
Appreciate you (being a Braves fan) not blaming the format. Does it allow teams that normally wouldn't be in the post season a chance to get hot and go on a run? Sure! But it's still on those top seeded teams to win with home field advantage. If you sweep in the LCS and the other team goes 7 games, you get that same amount of rest and I wouldn't expect any complaining then. If you can win with your ace against the other teams 3rd starter at home, you don't get to complain.... That said, hearing TONS of Dodgers and Braves fans complaining, which is hilarious for the Dodgers because they manage to choke regardless of postseason format.
My problem with the format isn’t the days off, it’s that there isn’t reseeding after the wc round. I’ve always found that to be weird. The 1 seed should play the “worst” team remaining in the DS.
I have thought the Post Season should consist of only 1 wild card spot for each league and jump right into the Division Series for a long time. Reason for this is simple, when you think of a post season for any sport, you it's going to be the best of the best who get to show up. When 40% of all the teams get to participate, that does not feel like a 'best of the best' scenario. This would, in turn, put the 'too many days of rest' complaint to rest.
No, they're more than fair. If people are complaining about their team losing with a bye, extra rest, rotation set up, and home field advantage then... that seems more like excuses and coping.
Excess Rest in baseball may not be the best policy considering the regular season barely has long breaks. But these teams still lost legitimately anyway. Especially braves this year.
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I do think it’s wild that a teams wins their division like the brewers did then the season over in 2 days. I would like a 7 game series throughout or 5 at least for the WC
I think the playoff format is fantastic. Front offices now have to think about building a team that’s balanced between consistency and power in the regular season and clutch adrenaline management and collective confidence in the postseason. It’s an amazing test of multiple crucial aspects of baseball. It allows the regular season accolades and achievements to still matter but also lets one or two players take over for a couple of weeks per team as they put together a run and prove themselves superstars. It’s in its infancy as only a couple of teams have figured the format out (maybe by accident) but as more and more of the league make the connection and start building teams for this new kind of baseball season it’s going to be absolutely wild. It could genuinely make baseball one of the biggest sports on the planet.
@@jakestakes9075So basically, this a participation trophy format. Hell, why not just let the team with the worst record get into the playoffs? Thing is, y’all like this format until the scenario I just described, actually happens. You are letting teams who are having mediocre or less records get into the playoffs. At this point, why not just scrap the damn 162 game season and just go straight to the postseason? You know I’m right.
@Southernguy39 Exactly, regular season doesn't matter anymore. I miss when the league's playoff format was just limited to 8 teams, 3 Division Winners, and the next best team for each league (AL and NL), also without the wildcard game nonsense, unless it's a tiebreaker.
@@rustyshackelford4224The Mets, like my team the Braves, should’ve faced each other in the nlds, not facing the mediocre padres in a 5 game wildcard series. It has nothing to do with how well a team is doing down the stretch. It has everything to do with how well they’ve done in 162 games. A 76-86 team, should be nowhere near the playoffs, but we don’t want to “offend” the fans. 🙄
This year’s playoffs have convinced me that new baseball fans along with certain fanbases are bandwagons that have never watched playoff sports a single day in their lives.
You could fix the timing issue on the batters being rested for so long with the bye. Just put an atec behind a wall or screen and project film of pitchers then use the atec to recreate the pitch and sync them so they can have some bps
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I feel like nobody has a problem with it until their team loses to one with a worse record. I personally like how unsuspecting teams are able to make a push. It makes it interesting how any team can break out.
Edit: To those pointing out how the 162 game season means less by allowing more teams in, that’s actually a valid point. Just because a team barely makes wild card and then gets hot at the right time doesn’t necessarily mean they deserve to be there.
I left this comment right when the video came out before even watching it and did not expect a whole debate below it haha
Playoff baseball is obviously special for some reason, so increasing the number of games is a good thing. You just can't have 162 also, it's too many games period. I hate how long and pointless the regular season is. Sick of seeing the Dodgers win 105 games only to get bounced by some inferior team. Cut it back to 144 and then you can expand the postseason a little bit further still. The 3-game series are kind of stupid imo.
@@guyincognito320If the Dodgers are so good they shouldn’t be getting bounced by an “inferior” team
Maybe they should get their shit together in October instead of blaming it on a playoff format
@@MidnightScoutThat's such horseshit it's amazing. They did get it together. All season. Which is why they're the #2. But we've got clowns like you who think 5 games means more than 162.
I guarantee you if a big market team like the yankees went on a run as a wild card like the rangers or diamondbacks, we wouldn't be seeing the media suddenly questioning the playoff format and calling it unfair.
@@guyincognito320 The Dodgers have choked for a decade straight, it ain't the playoff format that's the issue here.
One part of this I don't get at all is why MLB doesn't put all the playoff games in prime time. Are they really so interested in the mega-fan who's going to sit down and watch the entire quadruple-header on a Tuesday that they're willing to accept a fairly high probability that fans who have full-time jobs might be unable to catch _any_ of the games in their team's postseason run?
Exactly. Can't believe the outpouring of people saying I don't deserve to watch baseball because I am employed.
Yup we couldn't get a game on Friday or Saturday but we're doing a Monday afternoon game here in a bit...
they had 4 games on one day, they didn't want to put all 4 games on at 7 and 8 o'clock so they spaced them out at 2 o'clock, 4:30, then 7:00, then 8:00
@@danielmoore8695Which would be fine, if it was like, Friday / Saturday / Sunday games.
No one cares about Baseball enough to warrant networks putting it in primetime slots. There's better content for that that'll actually be watched by wider audiences.
As someone from tampa, the problem with the Rays is that the field is an hour and a half from downtown tampa. They are across the bridge in St. Petersburg and trying to get there during rush hour is unimaginable. I moved to Tampa in 2005 and Tropicana field has not changed since at least then. Also the Rays don’t engage the fans as much, with the Tampa Bay Lightning, they do a lot more to keep the crowd engaged and make the fans want to come back. The Rays seem to show up, play a game, and you go home. It lacks the experience of going to a game so nobody wants to go
If the owner was not so cheap the rays would be so much better
I was surprised you didnt talk about the Home and Away structure of a series. Havine a 2-3-2 structure is a HUGE advantage to the lower seeded team. If they can manage to steal just one game in the first two games at the home of the higher seed, then having the major advantage for the next three games is in sane to me. The NHL and NBA's structure of 2-2-1-1-1 because its fair and then it gives the home advantage for the higher seed on game 7 if needed.
did you watch the playoffs this year? 😅 away team won all the games in the alcs and az had to win two on the road to finish their series. the higher seeded team still has the home field in game 7s with the current set up
You still get 4 games at home as the higher seed with 6/7 at home, its fair. 1-1-1 would absolutely suck for the travel of the players
@@Fly-The-W hockey players and basketball players do it. Both are more physically demanding games
@@srafferty1 I dont get why they would change it when its fine as is
The NBA actually does a 2-3-2 for the finals.
It makes makes it more likely that the higher seed is at home for the deciding game. Almost half of NBA finals have ended on Game 6 over the last 20 years. Without the 2-3-2, this would mean the higher ranked team winning their championship and "celebrating" on the other teams court in front of the other team's fan on Game 6 wins.
I'm an NFL guy, but baseball content creators are so good. Between this channel, Jomboy, and Foolish, baseball fans are eating good.
Bro facts all of theses guys are killing it!
The playoffs are really just “any given Sunday” but in a five or seven game series
Love jomboy and this channel, don’t even watch baseball! Never checked out foolish. Thanks for the rec.
That used to be me, but the channels you listed single-handedly got me WAY more into baseball than I ever was the NFL. This year I’ve watched exactly ONE NFL game. I’ve stopped following football almost entirely at this point. Baseball is just the superior, more entertaining sport in every single way.
Jolly Olive has been killing it too, if you're looking for even more baseball content!
This channel got me back into baseball so much that I attended 6 games this year and followed the season.
Wouldn't have happened without BDE.
The MLB should be subsidizing him.
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Me too honestly
He's almost got me.
Nobody to go with though.
Is a solo trip to a Baseball game worth it? Honest question.
@@wetwrkinc.5122 if you like the game, yes. Just get a good buzz going and talk to the people near you. I went with friends and they annoyed me because I was trying to watch my Cubbies and they were constantly talking to me lmao
For real
I was lucky enough to be in Clearwater for work during the Rays playoff games, then I found out all the games were at 3pm and couldn’t go.
15 minutes away from the Trop. That start time killed me.
If you’re that good team you shouldn’t have to worry about the wild card teams. Just makes things more interesting and gives a chance for the world series to host someone else for a change instead of something like the Astros being in 5 times in the last 6 years. Gets pretty boring.
It’s crazy how quickly it’s over. You dominate all year, plan all season for the playoffs, go through the long grind and marathon of a season, and then in 2 days it’s over and you go home. That being said, baseball playoffs have always been unpredictable and wild card teams often win it all.
bc they got nothing to lose so they don’t got that much pressure.
The wildcard team winning it all used to be impressive though. The Marlins actually had to fight and earn their spot in the wildcard. They then went on to beat division winners along the way to winning two World Series. These modern World Series will never be as impressive bc of this watered down format smh.
"The postseaon partially explained why baseball was so uniquely resistant to the fruits of of scientific research... It was that the season ended in a giant crapshoot" - Moneyball
Facts. As a Cardinals fan, the best Cardinals team of my life was probably the 2004 team who were swept in the WS. Then in contrast the 2006 team had the worst record of any team to ever win the WS. They were ice cold heading into the playoffs. Baseball being unpredictable is what makes the playoffs so fun to watch. It has always been anyone’s game once you get in.
@@davidkelty7688 How is it not impressive? If anything it should be more impressive. Its a worse team than the old format but still beating the monster teams. Playoff format is no excuse for getting dominated. Good teams show up in big games. Astros aren't complaining because they show up. Its simple as that. Teams beat better teams all the time in baseball, that's what makes baseball and the playoffs so unpredictable and exciting. To blame the losses only because days off is crazy. No teams would willingly chose to be in the WC games and potential elimination vs getting the rotation lined up.
You touched on a lot of great points: The 'rest' issue, talking smack about another team/player, Tropicana Field, and the playoff structure. They even played the playoffs with a rest day between games. Not done in the regular season. Some players thrive off challenges. No reason to get one of the best players fired up. Especially in the post season. No matter how you structure the post season, the teams that come up short will complain.
You mean fired up by pointing out the biggest mistake of his career. A mistake that little leaguers are taught not to make, is that what gets a player mad? Pointing out that he's an idiot?
And Blooper shouldn’t of started a war with Phillies fans that he couldn’t finish!
That was a rogue reporter putting out something that should not have been. Something they were doing among teammates in the heat of the moment. NOT meant to be taken out and shared with the public.
@@atlnla4112 someone never getting locker room clearance from the braves ever again. A piece of shit if you will
@@atlnla4112 Absolutely false. If you talk shit in a room full of reporters and cameras, you don't get to whine if it gets out. There are many places and times where reporters aren't around if you don't want remarks to be made in public.
Spencer Strider is the only person with the guts to call it like it is. If you want to move on, play better. The rest of the nonsense coming from the Braves and their fans is just whining because you got your doors blown off in the playoffs. Best offense in baseball shit their pants, talked shit and then cried about that too.
It’s a joke that the diamondbacks are in the playoffs in the first place. They barely played .500 ball, but they get a chance to play for a championship? What’s the point of playing 162 games? What are we even doing here?
A 1 game playoff and a 3 game regular series is insane to me... especially after 162 games.
I was so hyped for the Brewers.. they looked like such a complete team and it meant absolutely nothing 💔
I'm fine with the super short series for the Wild Card round (and would actually even prefer the one game single elimination format to the three there), but I don't want teams who win their division to get subjected to the super short series. So yeah, it's crazy that the Brewers didn't even get a chance to play in the LDS round despite clearly being the best team in their division and winning more games than any of the teams left in the playoffs. I want shorter series for team who get in as Wild Card (exposing them to the randomness) and longer series for the division winners.
@@MatthewGross87that's the reward you get for ending with the best or 2nd best record. The Brewers and Twins won weak divisions and ended with the same or less wins than some of the wildcard teams.
They had a best of 3 series (2 games possibly 3)and choked. I'm a brewers fan and was there (unlike you) and I was hurt but not once blamed the format. They have choked for years. I've seen it before. Anyone that starts out a comment with the phrase that ends with "is crazy" is a complete dumbass
the 3 game series is at least better than the 1 game wild card. that was horrible
12 fucking teams in the God damn playoffs after 162 fucking games is insane to me.
You play 162 mother fucking games and they punish the best teams by shitting all over their momentum and then let in mediocre clubs who can just get hot at the right time.
Another issue regarding the Rays and sports fandoms in Florida as a whole I really wish people not from Florida would realize is that most Floridians are not from Florida. A state of 22 million people with probably only like 1/10th of that population being actual native Floridians, you're not gonna find a lot of passionate fans of Florida teams unless they are uber successful like the Lightning, Heat, and our biggest D1 colleges. Fans of the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Chicago teams, etc. will move to FL but refuse to give up those fandoms which have like a century years' worth of traditions and passion associated. Baseball in FL is great for training & Northern teams to have a vacation but not for developing a fanbase.
I’m a first-generation Floridian (meaning I was born and raised in Florida, but my parents were from other states; my mom was born in Maine and raised there and Massachusetts and came to Florida as an adult, while my dad was born in Indiana and moved down to Florida when he was about 10 years old), and this is actually pretty true when it comes to Florida sports.
Just using my family as an example, the only Florida sports teams I’m actually a fan of are the Miami Dolphins (primarily because my dad grew up a fan) and the Orlando Magic (which is the only major professional sports team in Central Florida, where I’m from). Otherwise, most of the teams I tend to support are either from Boston (Red Sox for baseball, Bruins for hockey) or Chicago (primarily the Cubs, which was my paternal grandmother’s favorite team; she sadly didn’t live to see them break their World Series curse). My dad is a lifelong Atlanta Braves fan because he came to Florida when that was the only baseball team broadcasting their games in Central Florida. Before the late ‘80s or so, the only major sports teams in Florida were the Dolphins and the Buccaneers.
Point being, most of the sports leagues haven’t had teams here long enough to really develop a fan base across Florida, and because so many of us have only had our families here for a couple of generations, there isn’t really much generational fandom of the Florida-based teams, and we tend to gravitate more towards teams from states or regions where we have family roots. You’re more likely to see a Red Sox or Yankees fan in most parts of Florida than a Rays or Marlins fan (unless you’re right in the vicinity of Tampa - and the city’s name is Tampa, *not* Tampa Bay - or Miami).
lol I just moved to Orlando area and your spot on or in my areas case a lot of the residents are Latinos who mostly don’t care about our sports let alone speak English
Agreed thats not talked about enough
soooo true!
Totally. I’ve been saying that forever, and I’m 4th generation. Spring training has always been a big deal in FL because snowbirds could see their local teams play with palm trees in the background. I went to 4 Rays games this year, and probably half the fans were wearing the colors of the visiting team. MLB just doesn’t work here, I’m sad to admit
As a Tampa native I keep having to tell everyone it's not that we dont care. It's that we aren't even in the same vicinity as our team. There's only 2 bridges that are packed constantly connecting st pete and tampa. You literally gave to plan your entire day around getting to the park. I live in Tampa and im 1.5 hours from the stadium 😢
The drive hurts, but there aren't many Rays fans anymore. Too many people turned off by an awful stadium and a ownership group that is cheap.
@ryanchase9332 location is definitely everything. We (the Rockies) have arguably one of the worst owners, awful product on the field, but because we have one of the most easily accessible stadiums because of our public rail whose hub is right in front of the stadium. We'll always have fans in the stands assuming the weather isn't shit.
Lmk when the stadium gets moved. Traffic is an issue. I'm a drays lifer but never lived in Tampa, and even I know this. Its f-ing annoying bro. No one understands how much of an issue just getting into and out of the stadium is. That's the #1 reason why we have such shitty numbers in the stands.
@@ryanchase9332cheap and constantly the best or one of the best teams in baseball. Amazing that someone would even consider critiquing arguably the best franchise in NA sports.
I live here and I'd rather go to St. Pete than Ybor, you gotta be kidding right? Last time I counted there are three bridges crossing over from Tampa and another coming from the South. Also St. Pete isn't on an island.
Due to this channel and a few others, my love for baseball returned. So much so, that I decided to watch my former team, the Atlanta Braves and see what all the fuss was about. Four games later they were out. So thanks for reminding me how much hurt my Braves used to give me. Too bad I didn't see them win the world series a few years ago. This channel is awesome.
In the Ray's defense, the first playoff game of the season was scheduled at 3pm on a weekday. They were screwed from the start on attendance. Speaking from my experience, most of my coworkers were pissed they missed going to the game and also couldn't even watch the broadcast cause we were all AT WORK. I know a few people that bought tickets before they announced the time, and then ended up getting a refund cause they couldn't miss work. Just poor timing on MLB's part. Kinda unfair to Rays and Rangers fans :/
Also a huge factor in appearing to look so empty was opening the 300s without knowing our timeslot. This spread out the 19k (myself included) horribly, for no good or real reason.
How dare people in TB work?! Here in LA, it’d likely have been a sellout.
Last year, Game 1 between Cleveland and Tampa was a noon start time, during the weekday and The Jake was sold out. No excuses for Tampa.
@@eyeofhorus99 reminder it's TAMPA BAY not Tampa :) they play in St Pete, and I'm not making excuses I made it to both games. There's no good will towards the 20k people who did make it happen lmfao.
@@lookitslau What do you mean by "opening the 300s" is that an area of seats that wasn't open before?
Honestly as someone who got into baseball after hockey, the fact that any playoff round is less than a best of 7 is insane to me. 162 games in the regular season only for a best of 3 to determine a winner. Ridiculous. No problem with a wider playoff field, good teams will still rise to the top. Houston didn't have a problem making it through WC and DS... And maybe Philly pushing through the braves two years in a row says something about them being good lol
When I heard the Brewers were "swept" in two games, I realized why I stopped watching baseball decades ago. Nothing in this sport at the professional level makes sense. I'll just stick to hockey (lets be real here -- the superior sport).
having anything other than 1 game is insane to me, why the fuck do they need the best of 3,5 or 7?
@@Hick25 I look at it this way: One game decides who's the best team in that moment, A 7-game series will tell you who the better team is overall. These 3-game series end up being showing people the worst of both one game eliminations and 7 game series.
I like 5 game series. You see every starting pitcher and bullpen depth. If every series was a 7 game series it would be hell on the pitching staff and make for an absurdly long postseason with a wierd schedule as teams win at different times.
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The only issue I’ve had with the playoffs is the horrific time slots they choose to play the games. You pointed out Rays-TX, the first playoff series and you scheduled both games mid afternoon. As I rangers fan I was furious bc I had to listen to the games while at work rather than sitting down on my couch to watch. Then Orioles series game one is scheduled at noon on Saturday, right in the middle of TX-OU. It’s like MLB doesn’t care about tv ratings at all…next day scheduled mid afternoon during NFL Sunday. I understand there’s going to be some conflict this time of year, but it’s like they went out of their way to compete with football. Another awful example, they scheduled both ALDS games back to back on FOX, well what happened? Rangers- Orioles got delayed, so now Astros and Twins have to get pushed onto FS2 when they could have just had one of their NLDS games scheduled and there would have been no issues. Absolutely foolish by MLB.
They also put Astros-Twins at 7 in competition with SNF with the Cowboys. Course that game wasnt much of a watch but still why would you willingly try to compete with SNF?
@@sslocke Which is why MLB needs to be done by September. They lose fans to the NFL and people stop caring about MLB. Its too long a season.
@@scotttild 1000%. MLB, NBA, and NFL are all too greedy, trying to stretch out their seasons to the detriment of the product.
Excellent points.
You can't play baseball in November at night.
I feel like changing the DS rounds to a 7 game series instead of 5 will mostly fix this “issue”. It allows the rested teams to get in a groove and more accurately shows who the better team is.
No. The best playoff format was eight teams, with a five game division series and one wild card team per league, then a seven game LCS, then WS. We do not need any more than that.
Admittedly as an os fan, when you have a horse in the race it feels different but as unbiased as I can be, the playoff orioles were not the same team from the regular season. The dodgers and braves clearly looked off too. Yes, upsets happen but these aren’t really upsets, they’re blowouts. If players and coaches are saying it feels like a problem, even guys who aren’t in playoffs, than I think it’s at least warranted
What is the problem? The extra time off? So play simulated games and stop complaining. Try losing your division instead? Boohoo.
Players and managers are emotional after a loss and going to look for excuses. Long term data is really the only thing reliable to look at in these instances.
Stop. Texas beat O’s in regular season too.
dodgers were not planning on going all in this year and jettisoned cody bellinger and trea turner. plus trevor bauer curse
I mean our pitching was horrendous and first big flaw, if that was better think we could've held on to some momentum better, so mostly referring to that those sunday and tuesday games.
Toronto's big trades sent 9.4 WAR away to obtain 5.3 WAR. Amazing!
taking jose berrios out for yusei kikuchi
We can’t judge a trade for a couple years but still. I miss Moreno a lot
@@rghnwfeovour offense still put up 0
Jays gm Atkins traded away the cleanup batter, lineup protection, & most rbi's on the team, didn't replace any, & when the problem was OBVIOUS at the trade deadline refused to address the issue HE CREATED!
He can't go soon enough!
It will take YEARS to repair the damage he has done to the franchise 🤬
@@kidcrumpet3333 Because of the flawed lineup Atkins put together & refused to fix at the trade deadline 🙄
Also no one mentions that the 100+ win teams all clinched weeks ago. Wouldn't the fact that they hadnt played meaningful baseball in a month have more of an effect than 5 days off?
I stopped watching baseball a few years ago. This format does not reward the best teams during the entire season, but only rewards those teams who get hot the last month.
Womp womp
This has been known, it feels like I’m living in la la land with ppl only now talking about this. As a Nats fan, I watched this happen in 2012, 14, 16, and 17. Each year they won the East, waited 4-5 days, then lost in the NLDS. In 2019, they went through the wild card, and ended up winning the WS
Not saying the format should change, but hitters can easily go cold on a rest
Yeah and unless I misheard he quoted teams with 2 days or more of rest being successful historically. 2 days of rest is probably good. 5, definitely not. It’s a poor comparison to make in the article, and then reference it.
the format was different, there was only 1 wild card play in game back then. and in 2012 you played against the defending champion cardinals... the Phillies won 102 in 2011 and lost to the cardinals... it happens. its not a format thing.
I visited the hall of fame this weekend and there is a quote from 1982 that they are 2 different sports: The summer game and the autumn. One is the leisurely pastime of our national mythology. the other is not so gentle.
anything can happen and that is a great thing
Yeah im sure teams would willingly rather play the WC games and risk elimination vs getting the by and pitching lined up.... Im sick of people blaming the format completely when their 'better team' loses. That's baseball, even the worst teams win 60 games. Anything can happen in the playoffs, that's what makes baseball so interesting. Not saying the format is perfect but good teams show up and deal with it. Astros aren't here complaining.
@@Fly-The-W They Astros are even feeling it now, they are facing a team white hot, a team they dominated in the regular season.
The seeding could make more sense, but coming from a lifelong Braves fan, it doesn't really matter if your bats don't show up when it matters most. I would like 7 game series all the way through though...
cant agree more
Yeah I agree and I'm not a Braves fan but 7 games is all I ask for. A 162 games season shouldn't be defined by a 5 game series.
We would've lost to the phillies anyway.But I agree with your point. 7 games please.
There is a reason the bats didn’t show up for 3 of the 4 teams with 5 or more days rest and the one that can hit is the one that was caught cheating 7 years ago.
I agree on the 7 game series, except wild card, that should go back to 1. So much more exciting. And quit staggering the al/nl games, make it all line up!
As a brewers fan, even though it hurts like hell to lose like they did, I still support this new system. I love how every team has a chance to flip the bracket upside down, it feels so much more high stakes. I get why people wouldn't like it, but personally I love it
yeah. but you still gotta admit, no system that allows Bryce the Douchebag Harper to go forward. There has to be an anti-douchebag rule.
@bobf5360 bro harper is such a great guy, you're stuck in 2015 with that take
@@bobf5360Aww someone’s mad😢
This year's playoffs have me desiring the pre-1970s: the AL and NL team with their league's best regular season record immediately win the pennant, and proceed directly to the World Series.
Congrats on having the worst take I've seen on this whole debate so far. That format was already flawed in a 20-team league, and now you want it implemented in a 30-team league? Having less than a tenth of the league represented in a 2-team playoff makes absolutely no sense and reeks of blind nostalgia.
@@JDAWG2111I don't see the point of playing 162 games in what has become a glorified qualifying round. How many people would stay interested in the soccer World Cup if the group stages were 162 games long?
If it's to be a tournament, skip the regular season and just line up all the teams for single elimination.l
The Rays franchise made a huge mistake by doubling down in St. Pete. They would at least be selling out playoff games in Orlando. They would retain whatever tiny fan base they already have in the Tampa area, and Orlando wants them.
The Blue Jays are also trippin' by doubling down on Schneider as their manager for '24
right on
Spot on comment
At least move actually into Tampa, make the drive from Orlando less than an hour instead of adding 40 minutes to get to st pete
Orlando is a terrible place.
Orlando would be far worse than Tampa.
I personally think the last playoff format was the best one because it put an emphasis on the importance of being on top of your division after 162 games. You win the division, you are rewarded with a bye - you win a bunch of games but can't finish in first, you are allowed in, but have the pressure of winning an "anything goes" one-game playoff to advance. A division title is something special for fans of multiple teams who don't win so often and should be rewarded. The current playoff format emphasizes solely winning, where the only way of getting a bye is to finish in the top two in your league. It works with the NFL's 17-game season but is not appropriate for the grueling MLB schedule in my opinion. MLB got it right with the two-team wild card format but screwed up by adding the third wild card.
I agree division titles should be a big accomplishment across such a grueling season but it doesn’t even matter now
Keeping fans of several more teams engaged for a month or so at the end of the year seems like a great thing.
@@Mieslk2 but the regular season never meant anything in the playoffs. it’s a completely different game and way to play. if you can win 100+ games in the regular season then why did you lose to a 91 team to begin with? both sides are understandable
I never said it did. All I said was that the division title is not advantageous anymore because they include about 45% of the MLB in the playoffs. what's the point of winning your division when you can just squeak with a mediocre record and hope to get hot and catch the division winner off guard? @@kayla9839
@@Mieslk2 the twins would like a word with you
I think it’s more than just the rest days. The teams with the best records began to coast at the end of the regular season whereas the Astros and the wild card teams all had to fight and compete right up to the end. They kept their edge and built momentum. The big record teams, Braves, Dodgers and Orioles (even the rays to an extent) were all able to take the foot of the gas because they were through and then the rest just exacerbated their coasting and they totally lost all momentum
This channel helped me go back to baseball and I went to all the Astros home games during the playoffs and 30 regular season games. Thank you for giving me back the love of baseball.
you should also take into account that Florida got smacked with hurricanes this year. I'm sure a lot more fans would have loved to attend but they simply couldn't do the financial burden of the weather they had to endure. just my 2 cents
Nope I as well as 200k fans signed a petition to get the new stadium built across the bridge but the dumbass owners are building a new one right next door literally no one wants to cross the bridge for any reason. I hope they build this 100 million dollar stadium and lose their asses
Ticket sales are nothing. TV deals are where the money is. More people watched on TV, so more money. Teams just sell tickets for the fans.
also at least one of those games was on 3pm on a weekday. lots of people i know wouldve gone if it wasnt during work
Can we get this man to 1 million please?
thanks Jeff bezod
Yes
How's about 500k first?
@@danam0228 He's got over seven hundred and fifteen thousand what are you talking about
I don’t know how he isn’t there already…
The new playoff system is pretty cool to see especially with some teams getting a chance to shine
More like MLB letting them “shine” because 2nd and 3rd place really didn’t earn it.
You make great videos! Grammer lesson of the day = the use of "less" vs "fewer". Use less when referring to amounts (like time and volume) and fewer when referring to numbers (like how many players or games). Basically, if you can count it, use fewer, if you can't, use less. Ie: There have never been fewer people in attendance and therefore there has never been less beer consumed at a post season game. You can count the number of people but you can't count the volume of beer. You could also say they drank fewer liters of beer because you can count liters. "After the game it took them less time and needed fewer mop buckets to clean up because there was less vomit". You can count the mop buckets but you cant count time or vomit.
33 year old twin fan here. They win the series in 91 when I was 1 year old. Than came the longest playoff losing streak. Felt good to get to "round 2" lol just like a twins fan... we'll get em next year!!
36 year old Indians fan. What's worse? Seeing them lose 3 world series' (to the Marlins and CUBS) and blowing a 3-1 LCS lead to Boston in 07 and countless more Division Series?
Or just letting you off the hook from too much heartbreak like the Twins? Lol Either way, it's painful.
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661It's a tough road brother. My Dad was born in 1958, he's 65 and yet to see a Tribe WS win
Never have I seen with a bigger home field advantage then what the Phillies right now. Citizens bank is the most electric place in the country when the Phil’s play!
Only in the post season. Regular season they struggle to break 20k. Fair weather fans.
@@Kaboose-fb7bk averaged 38 thousand a game. Must be a braves fan.
@jdpxxprcxxswr the Phillies also had the LARGEST attendance increase in the MLB this year. Averaging 22k in 2022... so my point still stands, support your team more. And I like the Cubs, giants and braves. Uk baseball fan here.
@@Kaboose-fb7bk3 teams 😂🤡🤡💀 and you out here yappin and calling people fair weather fans 😂 wild
@@Kaboose-fb7bkWhy should they show up until the playoffs? It's irreverent.
I’m not sure how I feel. I kinda like the day games in the wild card round but I mostly don’t since it makes watching at work kinda hard. And the bye teams choking is kinda boring but it’s also nice seeing some new teams instead of just always being between the Astros, dodgers and Braves every year. But as a Dbacks fan im stoked and I got my World Series ticket already!
Regarding the Rays, a big part of why we don’t have a lot of fans at their games is because the team plays in St. Petersburg. No matter what anyone says to make St. Pete sound good for the Rays, keeping them there is arguably one of the worst things to do for the team because it is extremely hard to get there. Another reason why our playoff games were in such low attendance this year was because if I remember correctly, they played at 3 pm on weekdays. People work and go to school. It was a really poor choice of time for our games along with just getting there in the first place. If they moved the team to Tampa, attendance would look a lot better.
so why did they decide to build there new stadium a block away from the old one?
@@jiimbow because St. Pete is petty and won’t let them move to Tampa. They want their own wishes granted over the Rays’
Great vid as always,
it's always crazy to remember that Flutie played until 2005.
Flutie’s still a legend here in Massachusetts
@@warlordofbritannia Still have my box of Flutie Flakes
Proud of the Dbacks for doing what they are doing!
@@adamt9935 I'm Canadian and cheer for the Dbacks.. Toronto sports teams are TRASH. Let's go DBacks
Arizona shouldn’t be a playoff team. For 99% of MLB history they wouldn’t have made it. Manfred changed the rules so we have nearly half the league making the playoffs now . Baseball should be the division winners and 1 wildcard. All these wildcards is ruining the entire point of a 162 game regular season.
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I do. Go Diamondbacks 🐍
@@gnielsen07 And you know what? IDGAF #EmbraceTheChaos
@@gnielsen07 sound like a Braves fan 🚮🚮🚮
I miss the days of two leagues and four divisions. The AL never played the NL except for exhibitions and the World Series. The World Series (granted through the eyes of myself as a kid) had a lot more mystique than it does today.
I’ve known that too much rest completely messes up teams since 07 when the Rockies got swept by Boston in the World Series after sweeping every single team they faced to get there. If I remember correctly they waited for 12 days for Boston to finish their semifinal series cuz it went 6-7 games. Boston absolutely rolled them. CO was the hottest team in the postseason until they got rest
I remember that. The rockies swept their way to the WS but the long time breaking the routine and momentum was their demise.
@@pedrorendon9390 Yeah as a CO native that might be the most heartbreaking sports moment in our state’s history. The Rockies will never be good again. Their owner has said publicly he doesn’t care about winning, only selling tickets and hotdogs. That was the only hope we ever had at a title in the MLB.
The same thing has happened to the tigers twice. In ‘06 and ‘12 they swept alcs to get bounced in the World Series by teams that played hard fought seven game series. It’s not impossible to overcome a break but it definitely seems to be a factor more times than not.
And the same happened to the Braves. To much time off hurt them.
This channel is probably the one thing that still keeps me entertained and excited about baseball..
So much crying about the playoff formats though.
I definitely didn’t like the one game wild card. I like the format they had from the early ‘90’s thru the 2010’s the most. One wild card team and that one team moves on to the divisional round with the three division winners.
Agreed wholeheartedly
I think 2 WC teams was fine. Exactly 1/3rd make the playoffs. Best of 3 instead of 1 game, but start the division series immediately after the WC round ends on Thursday and play on Friday.
Anyways with current format. I think the teams with a bye should seriously consider holding a scrimmage game or 2 with their AAA club or something to keep the rhythm going.
Yes that was the best format mlb will ever see but it’s too late to go back now. Unless the league starts to fold or something.
Wasn't like 2012 and both the al and nl had 2 ties for the wild card so there was a game 163 for both divisions? That was the beginning of the one game wildcard?
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Great video. From the Braves standpoint it comes down to the Phillies. Some teams just have other teams numbers regardless of their regular season record. The Braves were 5-8 and 58-74 runs in the regular season. I’m not sure about the other #1 seed teams. Although the Braves were the #3 seed in 2021 when they won it all. But there was no long bye.
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I still preferred the 1 game elimination round with 2 WC teams. It takes away from the final stretch divisional/wc race a bit. Also, if there is a home field advantage in a five game series. its not much of one. The moment the home adv team loses one at home the cards are flipped. The home field adv in a sense goes to the other team. In a game 7 series, 2-3-2 I feel like is a better format for the DS round. MLB is happy with the TV $.
I completely agree with this, every word of it
This format is true in every sport, im a huge hockey fan and while they do 2 2 1 1 instead of 2 3 2 the mantra always is we just have to steal one win away and we have home field advantage, if home field is such a big advantage then certainly being able to potentially go up 2 0 is a great advantage isn't it? I mean idk what people want, 4 games straight at home for the higher seed and the last 3 away if they don't sweep? Seeding is supposed to give you an advantage but it can't be a huge advantage or else it would just be the same exact teams winning every year, acuna is a .250 playoff hitter not terrible not great you either have guys that showup for the playoffs or you don't
I agree
This is the only channel that can make me focus on anything baseball for longer than 8 Seconds
A bye week in the NFL makes sense, however this game is played every hot summer day. If they wanted to expand then expand it in powers of 2....maybe 16 teams, which would be 4 rounds. And even then make it 5-5-7-7 game series. And reseed after each round.
In football and basketball, while it may happen, it's rare to see an 8 seed beat a 1 seed. In baseball it's all the time. Regular season doesn't matter and whoever is hot at the end wins and it's random af. In football, it doesn't matter how hot the 8 seed gets.
Way to fix this is to make all the rounds best of 7. At least first round best of 5 and then best of 7 but then the top teams would have long layoff so can’t win. I would consider getting rid of the byes.
Look at the win% of the top teams in those leagues. Baseball has significantly more parity than either of those leagues. What’s funny is that football and basketball fans complain about the lack of parity while baseball fans complain about too much parity. At the end of the day people just complain.
The NFL has never had an 8th seed but I get what you are saying. The 7th seed has never beaten a 2nd seed yet though.
@@itsnick37 wouldn't guarantee anything. NHL has every playoff be best of seven and No. 1 seeds go down all the time. Twice in the last five years the NHL has seen a team break the record for most regular season wins and then lose in the first round. And everyone says that's why hockey has the best postseason while everyone in baseball wants to complain because the playoffs aren't a formality.
The worst seed in the NFL never plays at home in the playoffs, which puts them at a huge disadvantage compared to the other sports
The Astros did just fine with their days off. It's not the formats fault imo. Between 2 teams there were 4 MVP caliber players that just didn't show up for their teams when they needed them.
What were the Astros doing on the side of the bracket with the two worst records in the AL playoffs while the 101 won Orioles were on the same side as the 99 win Rays and 90 win Rangers?
It is totally balked. Totally
@@kevingriener7441playing the schedule given? Any excuse will do though huh?
@@landonpatton7997 you'd think the fans of the cheater team would have some humility
@@kevingriener7441 We do. We’d just wish the few stragglers would get over it like the rest of the world has. It’s been a better part of a decade now.
The Astros are cheaters though. They don't count
12:32 “Hey strider, you kiss your mother with those thighs?!” Is somehow the funniest/most unexpected troll I’ve heard in a long time
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Every round but the wildcard round should be a best of 7. I truly don’t understand why it’s not when other sports like hockey and basketball have it so every round is a best of 7 and they have way shorter seasons too.
They're played indoors
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Speaking as a Rays fan and former resident of the area, the stadium is in the worst part of the city for crime. But yes, your other factors did play a role as well. Im also sure that the fans knew that the Rays were decimated by the late season injury bug and were not going to be a peak ability come playoffs, so no one was going to go see them lose. We know the players are swapped out each year, we learn the new players each year. We are loyal to the team, not the players typically.
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@@smitmastaflex Yep, dont feeling like being mugged and murdered after going to watch a baseball game. I get NYC and Boston fans go to the games and sell out those series, theyre used to it. People in north Pinellas county who have the money to go and like baseball, they arent up for that shenanigans. That area of the county is a heavy football type atmosphere who dont give a rip about baseball.
They’re just not built for the playoffs, honestly. They’re good over a long season and at beating up bad teams, but not in a playoff series.
@@Ryan-cb1ei Cant fully argue with that. But these are young guys that should have more stamina and fuel in the tank. Getting hurt come game 155 and being out for 3 months shouldnt be happening to 22 y/o so frequently. IDK, I dont think a new stadium will help with the playoffs, but a better location should help with attendance.
i was actually at game 2 of the tampa game i was going as a orlando tourist the were actually pretty wild it was 90 mins from orlando and about 45 from tampa
This will make big and loaded teams not to go for big regular season records, and instead load manage their stars and prevent injuries.
The problem I have with it is now, it makes the regular season not mean much if you can just skirt your way into the playoffs
you mean teams with big division leads or that 3 teams make the WC?
@@vdoggydogg3922The teams that make a wild card. Teams can play with more ease since there's more spots open
It's called win and don't suck especially if you have a 100 or more wins. It just goes to show that now anyone who gets in as a wildcard can have a chance to make it to the World Series. It gives baseball more chances to make money and the fans will show up unless you are the Rays.
My favourite thing was when the Philly crowd did the tomahawk chop. Also the videos of playoff Joe
A 3 game playoff series is absolutely too short for baseball. A 5 game series is probably too short for baseball but at least then the whole pitching rotation can have a go.
Yeah, baseball is a 7 game series sport. I miss the old playoffs.
I still can't believe baseball doesn't have 4 rounds of best of 7 series.
Hockey stopped best of 5 in the first round back in the mid 80s. Best thing they ever did.
@@brandocalrissian3294 The old playoffs had fucking 1 game series, I don't miss it at all.
Why? In a 5 game series you're already against 2 of the same starting pitchers twice each. Is Bo7 not excessive for a wildcard faceoff?
We don't need under 500 teams making it... 12 is way to many still
like most other sports, MLB is trying to make the regular season mean less and less by letting everyone in the playoffs. i hate it so much. ALL SPORTS need to shrink the playoff field not expand it.
You must be a dodgers fan, they choke every year in the playoffs and only good against bad teams in the regular season
@@Zark_Moneybags69 I'm offended at someone thinking I'm a dodgers fan. Who I'm a fan of isn't even relevant. For example, I'm a buckeyes fan in college football so the expanded playoffs means we are gonna be in basically every year and I still hate it.
11:17 It would be a seismometer that would measure seismic activity (with a seismograph being the result). The Richter Scale is not an instrument, it's more or less the system or standard for placing seismic events into different magnitude classes.
People who complain about the fact that higher seeds lose a lot in the MLB Playoffs haven’t seen hockey. It’s not uncommon to see top seeds in the Stanley Cup Playoffs to lose.
Always a good day when baseball doesn’t exist uploads
No matter what the format is you’ll always have lots of upsets in baseball
I think this is all a good thing. Growing up it would be the same teams advancing to the playoffs and would be such an unpleasant time to watch even if it was my team going all the way. I like the idea of helping the littler teams and shaking the shit out of the big dogs like the dodgers. Adds more thrill and shows money can’t buy wins!
You oí always have a balanced perspective - much appreciated 👍🏻.
It seems to me the only problem is the layoff the division winners face after they clinch. They have a tendency to relax, and rest certain players for a long time. Eventually, they will figure out a way to simulate games to keep their players sharp and ready for the division series. They could play against minor league teams or intrasquad to keep sharp.
Correct and the solution is to stop expanding the playoffs. Only 4 teams from each league should make it. You play 162 fucking games. There's no need for 12 playoff teams.
seems odd that 5 days off would create a problem, houston seems to handle it fine. seems to me they could bring in a bunch of their minor league pitchers for daily bp to keep the bats going or something like that if its really a problem
@Tin5674 Jackass comment. 75% of the teams with byes went down and you say, well 25% made it so what's the problem? The exception doesn't usurp the rule. Oh, and where's Houston now? Oh, they ran into a a fucking 5th seed that got hot by NOT getting a bye.
The 4 best teams went down in their first series. The playoffs are all luck. MLB is the only league that punishes the best best by killing their momentum.
The #6 seed has won the NL for the second straight year. Baseball is officially a Bush League. These jackasses will probably expand the playoffs again.
It's about money. That's it. Integrity is out the window.
@@FAITHandLOGIC lol ya Houston got beat by a team with the same record they had in the same division, crazy! This playoff season and the series is the most fun series in the last 15 years since the steroid crackdown.
Yes vaseball is bush league becasue they dont have a hard cap and teams keep buying players. its nice to see new teams in the playoffs and winning, having the same 8 teams in every year is boring.
The problem is more teams in the playoffs means more reason the regular season doesn't matter, in a sport that is losing viewership because young think the game is "boring" that isn't good.
You are right about it cheapening the regular season but viewership and attendance are up.
@davidfox9947 lot of questions about that. Playoff viewership or regular season? Were the pitch clock and other similar rules changes the reason? Was viewership just because there were more games in the playoffs? Data is weird.
Eh, I’d say the regular season still wouldn’t matter any more than it does now. If you don’t make the playoffs, your season is basically a wash. But that’s how I feel about every sport…the regular season is about making it to the postseason; championship or bust.
What sport isn't this true in ultimately? More times then not the number 1 seed doesn't win it all. I've seen it in hockey plenty of times where the lower seeds beat the higher seeds and you end up with wild matchups and they have no excuse because they all play the same amount of 7 game series. It's just bitter fans that can't get over it because yes it does suck to lose after your team had a great season but it happens in every sport.
I could see an argument that the DS should be 7 games sure but zero of the teams eliminated was that going to even matter.
More teams in the playoffs means more teams are playing for something at the end of the season. I feel like it makes the regular season more.
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It used to be the National League pennant winner faced off against the American League pennant winner in a best of 7 World Series making it a really special event that EVERY baseball fan watched, whether their team was in it or not. And the season was over in EARLY October. Now, it's dragged on and on and on to into NOVEMBER and gets to the point of absolute boredom, except for SOME of the teams with avid fans, while the rest of the country (including yours truly) couldn't care less. The endless expansions have made MLB way too confusing as well, allowing mediocre teams to even possibly make it to, and worse, win the World Series...no more "may the best team win" I guess.
MLB is scripted
As a Reds fan it's nice to see Castillanos with the Phillies. You guys are amazing fans and I'm rooting for you to take it all!
Lol. Fans that are borderline sociopaths.
@@GeeEm1313You don't like us.... we don't care
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@Bryan123483
I went to Cincinnati to see the Phillies & Reds fans were one of my favorite out of all the ballparks I’ve been to! They reminded me of Philly because they’ll just start conversations & were funny.
I think the problem is the division leaders have their spot more or less locked up early and can ease up, meanwhile the wild cards have to fight to the very end, so of course they're coming in hot.
Maybe the leaders should give themselves a goal to keep pushing, like 110 wins, though that didn't help the dodgers
I also want to take this opportunity to pitch my wild card idea: since let's be honest they shouldn't be here, wc game 1 is the day after game 162. The next day is a double header if need be, motivation to win in 2. The next day the division series start. Only 2 days off for the leaders, wild cards come in running on fumes
This entire comment just made me laugh out loud.
I like your idea. I have a few of my own with some modifications with the doubleheader idea. Unless a game is postponed with rain and one is needed, playoff doubleheaders hurts the wild card team’s bullpen
1. Start the best of 3 wild card series the day after the last day of the regular season. Unless there must be a game that has playoff seedings, starting the wild card series giving the wild card teams no off days saves the bye teams 1 day
2. Reseed the wild card teams after the wild card series is over cuz #2 vs #6 and #1 vs #4 seed divisional series doesn’t make sense and this one should be done next year
3. If all the wild card series is over after game 2 or #3 vs #6 series are over and reseeding is done, then start the divisional series days afterwards. Ex. Instead of starting the divisional series this year on Saturday, they should start on Friday. If they start the wild card series on Monday and all of them or both of the 3 vs 6 series are over Tuesday, then the Divisional series can start Thursday. If a 4 vs 5 series is over after 2 games and the 3 vs 6 series has a game 3 and reseeding is done, then the divisional series should start 2 days after the last wild card series is over.
4. If a playoff round is over early like this year in the AL, they should’ve started the ALCS on Saturday instead of Sunday. In other words, if possible, reduce the amount of off days between playoff rounds so the World Series doesn’t end in November
2019 was the best example in support of the WC round (at least the 1 gm. format). The Nationals were arguably the best team in the league at the end of the season, but due to the 19-31 start, ended up with 93 wins and the WC. That's *4 months* of being hot, with a record on par with the Dodgers and Astros. They beat the Brewers in WC, Dodgers in the DS, destroyed the Cardinals in the CS, and beat the Astros in the WS. The system with the 1 game WC is fine (though I would like a 7 game DS).
I do believe 5 days off is too long for hitters. Pitching is the only thing that benefits. Wild card teams are able to keep their bats hot. Notice how every team that had to wait, suddenly couldnt hit fastballs anymore? That goes beyond "a team just went cold" or "a pitcher dominated". We've seen both of those happen numerous times in the past so that will always be a thing. But since this new format, teams with the extended break cant catch up to fastballs anymore even from guys who arent known for it. Not to mention division series only being 3 of 5 instead of 4 of 7 is absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some squads who may be in a tight race at the end, purposely pull back to let another team win the division so they can keep playing and not go cold. The numbers are there. And we all know how much baseball loves numbers these days.
As an Orioles fan I don't think the rest was a negative factor. The Orioles were already struggling at the plate going into the playoffs. Also Texas had veterans who had been there before that contributed hugely. If it was Texas/Baltimore straight out of the season I don't think the result would have changed.
One day we’re worried the playoff format will favor the top seeded teams and then the next we need to change it again to favor the top seeded teams
Fundamental value of baseball: best teams are revealed by large samples (way bigger than any other sport). The only fair way to reward teams that excelled over 162 games is to give them a bigger playoff advantage over much weaker teams.
Appreciate you (being a Braves fan) not blaming the format. Does it allow teams that normally wouldn't be in the post season a chance to get hot and go on a run? Sure! But it's still on those top seeded teams to win with home field advantage. If you sweep in the LCS and the other team goes 7 games, you get that same amount of rest and I wouldn't expect any complaining then. If you can win with your ace against the other teams 3rd starter at home, you don't get to complain....
That said, hearing TONS of Dodgers and Braves fans complaining, which is hilarious for the Dodgers because they manage to choke regardless of postseason format.
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Im a Orioles fan, and we lost fair and square. The Rangers deserve to go far
My problem with the format isn’t the days off, it’s that there isn’t reseeding after the wc round. I’ve always found that to be weird. The 1 seed should play the “worst” team remaining in the DS.
Do they have reseeding in the NFL? I know it's not a thing in 99% of knockouts in pro sports
@@DanArnets1492NFL is the only one that does reseeding. NHL and NBA the 1st seeds play a 7 game series in the 1st round.
You do a good job on Baseball is Dead, great podcast.
I have thought the Post Season should consist of only 1 wild card spot for each league and jump right into the Division Series for a long time. Reason for this is simple, when you think of a post season for any sport, you it's going to be the best of the best who get to show up. When 40% of all the teams get to participate, that does not feel like a 'best of the best' scenario. This would, in turn, put the 'too many days of rest' complaint to rest.
No, they're more than fair. If people are complaining about their team losing with a bye, extra rest, rotation set up, and home field advantage then... that seems more like excuses and coping.
Excess Rest in baseball may not be the best policy considering the regular season barely has long breaks.
But these teams still lost legitimately anyway. Especially braves this year.
Sure if it was a one-off problem, but the rest is nearly a universal problem for the top teams
@@MotoVania It’s not a “universal problem” if the Astros have no problem with it.
@@JohnnyXGamez That’s why I said it is NEARLY a universal problem. Astros are the exception
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I’ll always prefer that either no one gets a bye, or the best team from each division gets the bye.
I’m actually a huge fan of the new format. Absolute chaos, just like March Madness. Makes it more interesting
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I do think it’s wild that a teams wins their division like the brewers did then the season over in 2 days. I would like a 7 game series throughout or 5 at least for the WC
they had home field both games they lost.
@@oasisman Doesn't matter where the games are played, it's not even in the same universe as an adequate sample size.
As a Phillies fan, Orlando Arcia blowing raspberries at the crowd is objectively hilarious
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I think the playoff format is fantastic.
Front offices now have to think about building a team that’s balanced between consistency and power in the regular season and clutch adrenaline management and collective confidence in the postseason. It’s an amazing test of multiple crucial aspects of baseball. It allows the regular season accolades and achievements to still matter but also lets one or two players take over for a couple of weeks per team as they put together a run and prove themselves superstars.
It’s in its infancy as only a couple of teams have figured the format out (maybe by accident) but as more and more of the league make the connection and start building teams for this new kind of baseball season it’s going to be absolutely wild.
It could genuinely make baseball one of the biggest sports on the planet.
Completely agree. And more teams get to compete! The old format had half the league out of contention by the trade deadline
@jakestakes9075 Nope. This retrofitted format is trash. Regular Season doesn't matter anymore.
@@jakestakes9075So basically, this a participation trophy format. Hell, why not just let the team with the worst record get into the playoffs? Thing is, y’all like this format until the scenario I just described, actually happens. You are letting teams who are having mediocre or less records get into the playoffs. At this point, why not just scrap the damn 162 game season and just go straight to the postseason? You know I’m right.
@Southernguy39 Exactly, regular season doesn't matter anymore. I miss when the league's playoff format was just limited to 8 teams, 3 Division Winners, and the next best team for each league (AL and NL), also without the wildcard game nonsense, unless it's a tiebreaker.
@@rustyshackelford4224The Mets, like my team the Braves, should’ve faced each other in the nlds, not facing the mediocre padres in a 5 game wildcard series. It has nothing to do with how well a team is doing down the stretch. It has everything to do with how well they’ve done in 162 games. A 76-86 team, should be nowhere near the playoffs, but we don’t want to “offend” the fans. 🙄
This year’s playoffs have convinced me that new baseball fans along with certain fanbases are bandwagons that have never watched playoff sports a single day in their lives.
Seriously
Straight up
The best teams should definitely have the automatic division series, but the wild card should only be one game elimination game
You could fix the timing issue on the batters being rested for so long with the bye. Just put an atec behind a wall or screen and project film of pitchers then use the atec to recreate the pitch and sync them so they can have some bps
Astros had the same amount of time off and they moved on pretty easily🤷🏻♂️
Love this guy but let him have his narrative please
They probably cheated
@@kevingriener7441 cope
Not to mention how the wild card series “benefited” the Rays, Brewers, Blue Jays, and the Marlins. Guess they didn’t count.