Phantom's Revenge Review, Kennywood Mega Coaster...plus the History of Steel Phantom
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2020
- Phantom's Revenge at Kennywood in West Mifflin, Pennsylvania opened in 2001. Kennywood took a big risk converting Steel Phantom, their beloved Arrow multi-looper, into Phantom's Revenge, into Phantom's Revenge, a Morgan mega coaster. Phantom's Revenge kept the famous second drop down the ravine and added several amazing airtime hills. This coaster has received several accolades over the years, but I think it may even be underrated!
Video Credits
Kennywood Drone Footage (Sam Kowall)- • Quarantine Kennywood
Phantom's Revenge POV (Kennywood)- • Phantom's Revenge POV ...
Steel Phantom (psyclonesteve)- • Steel Phantom, Kennywo...
Background Music
Horror Ambiance (ESN Productions)- • (Free) Horror Ambiance...
I heard that the airtime on this was insane but wow wow wow!!!! I didn’t expect it I also didn’t expect it to be as smooth as it was. That second drop felt like it went on forever
I don't think any of the Morgan hypers are rough. The only painful one is Steel Eel because of the lack of seat padding.
@@CanobieCoaster To be fair, Phantom isn't remotly like any of the other Morgans
The only coaster I've ridden more more violent Airtime and more of it is Phoenix
@@TheMrLebaron actually if you watch footage of other Morgan’s with the trims off they seem to give very similar ejector during the second half
Instablaster.
An underrated masterpiece in my opinion. So intense in many ways and still the king of Kennywood in my opinion.
Steel Curtain looks great and hopefully it's open next time I'm there, but I suspect I'll still prefer this.
Phantom is the best purple hyper coaster in the world (it’s my number 2 only behind lightning rod)
The first drop looks huge from the parking lot, but those aerial shots really punctuate just how massive that second drop is (as well as Thunderbolt's final drop)! Still the best coaster in the park almost 20 years later.
Phantom is most impressive from the air and distance. That terrain use is incredible.
I'm 6'1 so Steel Phantom never bothered me, although I recognize its weaknesses. Phantom's Revenge is a clear improvement and I wish Morgan built more coasters using this design philosophy. Excellent review of an outstanding ride.
Thanks!
Kennywood is my home park and Phantom's Revenge is amazing! Love to marathon it whenever I can. Rode the Steel Phantom back in the day. Head banger for sure but consistently greyed out multiple times especially in the back!
Cool to hear from someone who rode both!
I grew up in Pittsburgh and had the opportunity to ride Steel phantom before it’s change over, in fact I spent an entire day in 2000 getting in over 12 rides in just after the announcement was made of its closure (is was 12 and i still remember hurting for days). But I must say that it’s transformation was much needed, and welcomed. The ride is fantastic and I truly love it. Being a little older now and living out of state, I don’t get to ride it as much, but still got to take a ride in 2021 and loved it just as much as when I was a kid!
Glad you got to ride the old one that many times!
Phantom's Revenge is elite! My only rides were this year, and even on a Saturday, the first 4 rides were walk-ons, as people took awhile to find it. The grouper honored my request for back row, then when he saw me coming back, he assigned me back row again, then asked if I wanted to try front on my 3rd ride. It's nice when the grouper does things like that. (Are you listening to me, Knoebels!?) After riding Skyrush, which was very shaky, it was great to then ride this strong airtime machine that was glossy smooth.
Kennywood seemed willing to let people wait for the back, but not the front, since the front queue ran parallel to the main queue so it was harder to distance.
You had a grouper? There is never a grouper (at least in my experience)
@@Kennywood_Fanatic I had a grouper for Phantoms Revenge on my 2020 visit, which is when I made the original comment. It did not have a grouper on my 2022 visit.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan that explains it, because of Covid
All the kennywood rides at night are so incredible, really makes the sounds of these older coasters stick out. I gotta go back to kennywood
I really want to visit during Halloween one year to get lots of night rides.
@@CanobieCoaster phantom fright nights were *the* thing we'd look forward to as teenagers in Pittsburgh, it's a whole lotta fun
It would be cool if kennywood added a hyper GTX, because they have worked with Morgan/Chance before and it is in their budget
I'm not sure if that would be the right coaster for Kennywood. Great ride, but it would work better at a park that didn't already have a hyper like Phantom.
@@CanobieCoaster Yeah, they could be able to get one but it would be a lot like Phantoms revenge if they did. Similar trains, simulator airtime, simulator track, just more compact. Everyone says Lighting Run is like a mini phantoms revenge.
@@CanobieCoaster I agree, plus the people who owned Kennywood when they built Phantom don't own it anymore. I HIGHLY doubt the new owners would have ever built anything like Phantom imo
This and curtain are in my top ten, skyrocket even has a fantastic 👌 first half.
Great video! I am thoroughly enjoying your content. I used to work at Kennywood and can tell you firsthand that 85 mph is only the minimum statistic. Ever since they switched the trains over to monochromatic green and purple ones they now run, it goes even faster. Because the new trains are more weighted the average speed is estimated at 86 mph.
Thanks for sharing! That wouldn't surprise me considering the height differential and the heavier trains.
There was a very hot day last summer where it was clocked in at 90mph!
Excellent review and video! I remember way back to 1991 being there to ride Kennywood’s record breaking Steel Phantom. It opened on my 14th birthday,…May 10, 1991. We rode it only about a month or so after it’s debut. The line was painfully LONG. But I’ll never forget,….as we were getting closer to the loading platform,…everything briefly came to a halt. Next thing we saw was the park first aide bringing a stretcher up into the loading platform. They lifted a rider out from the seat, and onto the stretcher. We thought little of it. But somewhere in my mind I can remember thinking to myself “wow,…is this ride so intense that it caused injury to this poor person…??” We found out only minutes later. I waited extra long for the front seat for my very first ride. I can remember my heart pounding as we climbed the long lift. The twisting first drop was great. The intense wind in the face at the bottom of the first drop was incredible. Then up up up that second hill. I do remember looking down that second drop before plummeting down through the Thunderbolt. But once those Arrow trains hit 80mph and veered to the left in that INSANE U-turn,…from there onward it was all literally a blur. You hardly had time to realize you had just zoomed through the U-turn before the trains were slamming into the first vertical loop with such speed! It was here in that first loop that I remember feeling pain in my neck. The boomerang and single corkscrew happened so fast that I may have even blacked out. I got off the Steel Phantom that day somewhat disappointed. Holding my sore neck and wondering WHY Kennywood would build a torture machine like this!?! I actually let a few years go by before I tried riding it again and managed to enjoy it a little. But overall it was NOT a pleasant experience. And it’s quite clear to me just WHY Kennywood removed the loops. The old Steel Phantom equaled a baseball bat mugging in a NYC alleyway. Too intense. Phantoms Revenge is a home run! A fantastic ride!
Thanks! The old Steel Phantom always intrigued me, but objectively Phantom's Revenge seems way better.
Even in my old age I would still take the beating the original Steel Phantom would dish out over the Phantoms Revenge! It was an insane ride but fun as hell!
I wish I could have tried the original Phantom, but I doubt I would have preferred it.
@@CanobieCoaster Yeah it was a beast, while in the cue it would sneak up on you on the corkscrew with a big roar but it was an awesome sight!
Great review! Very in-depth and informational! I have not ridden this, but from what I can tell, it looks like an upgraded version of my home park's Magnum XL-200. I know that might sound weird, but it makes sense to me:
-They both have a really slow lift that really builds your adrenaline while giving a great view.
-Phantom's first drop is like a better and smoother version of the curved drop off of Magnum's first large airtime(less) hill.
-Phantom's second drop is an improved and elongated version of Magnum's first drop, both having an angle of descent that lasts for a while, almost like straight track, just angled downwards. I like your comparison to a drop tower, because Magnum also sort of feels like that too.
-Phantom's helices are an improved version of Magnum's pretzel-shaped turnaround, with Magnum giving mild positives and laterals and Phantom giving stronger positives and laterals.
-The final bunny hills on Phantom look a little more sustained than Magnum's while still maintaining the insane ejector airtime.
-Phantom's lap bar looks way more comfortable than Magnum's, further enhancing the ride experience.
That's an interesting comparison. I think the airtime on Magnum may be more abrupt and stronger, but it's far more enjoyable on Phantom.
@@CanobieCoaster I would assume so.
Truly an insane coaster! Got 4 rides in June 2019 and I swear the back row is lethal when it comes to airtime! A solid #4 out of 83 coasters I've ridden!
Agreed!
What are your top 3 credits?
Morgan nor Kennywood screwed around on this thing for sure
@@carsonmarsteller8622
3. Leviathan (Canada's Wonderland)
2. Fury 325 (Carowinds)
1. Steel Vengeance (Cedar Point)
InsaneCoasterJunkie nice! I have 150 credits and I’ve yet to get to kenywood but my #1 is Steve 2 is fury 3 is voyage for my taste
With Kennywood being my home park, Phantom's Revenge is by far my #1 coaster (beating out Steel Vengeance), the air time is crazy and in the front you get tears forced out of your eyes. I have personally ridden in every single seat in the train, counting my rides on the purple and green trains. I see it as a goal of mine to ride in every single seat in both trains.
I love the airtime with those restraints.
@@CanobieCoaster the airtime is like nothing else, all from the restraints, I've ridden the Phantom god know how many times, and each time I feel I'm gonna fly out wherever I'm seated
Personally skyrush is my favorite in PA because the airtime is more sustained and has crushing laterals and crushing positives, as well as the insane first drop, although I absolutely understand why phantom is most peoples' favorite in PA. Phantom is in my top 5, the ejector with minimalistic restraints in insane
Skyrush is definitely wilder but I slightly prefer Phantom.
@@CanobieCoaster I agree phantom is my no.2 overall only behind velocicoaster (I even rank it ahead of maverick and steel vengeance)
@@CanobieCoaster I think phantoms revenge will be my favorite because it’ll probably be more comfortable than Skyrush
The second drop on this is one of my most anticipated moments on any coaster
It's incredible.
At Phantom Fright Nights 2019, I got a night ride on Phantom's Revenge and Steel Curtain. They both feel completely out of control. You have no idea what's going on.
I still need to get on Steel Curtain.
My parents took me to Kennywood when visiting my grandma just before they temporarily shut down the Steel Phantom to do the refurb. I have fond memories of that version as my Dad and I rode it twice. Once near the middle and the second in the front car 😂🤣. Personally I don't remember if being that rough tbh, and when showing my kids the difference on another video...I was kind of disappointed that they took the loops, corkscrew, etc out as it looks way to tame as Phantoms Revenge. Nice to know exactly why they did the refurb 👍
Glad you got on the old one right before it closed!
My only complaint has ever been just that I want MORE of Phantom's Revenge. The pacing is amazing, like you said, but it just leaves you wanting more and more of it.
I wouldn't complain if there was more, but I'm satisfied with the length given Kennywood's land situation.
I can honestly feel the airtime just from looking at the POV 🤤
It's crazy how strong the airtime is with those restraints.
You can actually see the bottom of the second drop. Kennywood has a designated area on the Greater Allegheny Passageway, and you can see the bottom of the drop from there.
I was aware of that, but the closest access point I could find was the Waterfront, which was a 3 mile walk (I didn't have a bike).
I just visited Kennywood for the second time on a 91 degree day and got 8 rides in on my visit, 6 being night rides and they were AMAZING!!!! It was running so fast in the heat and riding this coaster in the dark was just insane!!! 🤯 On my first visit several years ago, I rode it twice and while it was amazingly violent, it was no where near my recent rides. Definitely moved from a top 30 to a top 5 for me. If you can get a night ride on this in the summer - do it!! They were open till 10 last week!
I need to try this at night someday.
Funfact: According to some long term locals, the first few years, the Phantom had to only run one train due to it constantly constantly not being able to stop in the brake run and sliding into the station during initial testing. Of course now-a-days it isn't an issue, but it was for the first year or so.
That final brake run is short.
I can confirm this
Thanks! This is my home park, been going my whole life. Despite its new owners its still a pretty special park. And Ive had lots of night rides on it, its INSANE
Hopefully I can get a night ride on it sometime! I'd love to get out there for their Halloween event sometime to maximize that chance.
@@CanobieCoaster Under non Rona times, the park is normally at least open until 10, its one of my fave nightrides. I added a new fave for night rides, Twister at Knoebles during HaloFun when they had ALL the lights turned off was WILD. Knocked the beast off my top night ride list. Phantom is VERY good to
I've never been able to time a summer night ride on Phantom. I always seem to get off around sunset and then the queue is closed.
@@CanobieCoaster Might be the new owners, Honestly I don't go the park much anymore. Its HIGHLY gone downhill since the corperate owners tookover. I only go on a few weekends a year now when its busy and they stay open.
So thats probably the case
@@CanobieCoaster Honestly, not to bash a park or anything but it was so much like Kenobles when the family owned it. Everything was wonderfully taken care of. And they would stay open till midnight sometimes if the crowds were b ig
Kennywood should sell t-shirts with your saying "I owe my life to Phantom's seatbelt!"
Lol
Except to do that they'd need to sell Phantom's Revenge shirts. They didn't have any when I was there. They just had Steel Phantom shirts.
@@CanobieCoaster Yeah that's odd. It's surprising how some parks don't understand how much they can make on well designed merch.
Great video by the way.
Thanks!
Thank u for loving the very back man like u get thrown around like a rag doll in the very back and I love being thrown over the first hill can’t wait for this summer again I go every weekend haha
I love this ride.
After riding Steel EEl, with those restraints and that ending with that vicious airtime, feeling like I’m gonna fall off, I’m all for the Morgan coasters
As good as the airtime is on Steel Eel, it's far better on Phantom. The lap bars give you more room, the seats are padded, and the airtime is more violent.
Kennywood assigned seats the first time I rode this but I still got a front row, a middle and a backish middle seat ride. I can’t wait to return and experience this in the back along with steel curtain. Maxx Forces inversions are mainly of the fun and floaty kind and steel curtains look to have that similar feel. Kennywood is so underrated, they have the greatest steel coaster I have ridden yet, a multi looper contrasting a great ride like Maxx Force, a supporting collection that makes me continuously reride each to decide which coaster out of the four is the best, a very solid flat ride and track ride collection and of course some great food to top all of that off. Truly one of my favorite parks and is a massive surprise to me how much the park managed to pack in.
My only complaint with the ride is that it doesn’t have a helix, which would’ve been a perfect way to end off the ride. I find the ending very similar to the Boss’ current ending, great speed and airtime in the front but considerably weaker in the back. I was lucky enough to experience Boss when it had the helix and didn’t trim very hard and that was one of the most intense and craziest finales I have ever experienced. The helix had crazy head choppers and laterals and felt like it was never going to end and then transitioned into two ejector pops. Phantom’s Revenge could have had an added craziness to it with a final downwards helix, although I can only dream. What the park could still do to spice this up though is add a tunnel with some lights on that turnaround with a feeling similar to the one on the Demon rides. That would still be really cool and slightly disorienting!
This year, Phantom's Revenge let you choose your seat. Last year seating requests were possible if the station wasn't too busy and the operator obliged.
@@CanobieCoaster thats great, although im going back this saturday since it was the only time i could go. Any advice for my return visit?
As slow as that lift hill always was, as a kid there was always that 1-2 punch visual/audio punch by the Phantom. You would come around a corner and finally see the Phantom’s lift hill and know you were almost there. But that original Arrow lift hill was so loud, yet with such a unique sound, that I still equate that sound with every lift hill I’ve ever experienced, whether it actually exists or not.
Also had the rare experience of riding the original Steel Phantom as a kid and I’m sure that’s why I still prefer faster coasters with intense inversions. Shame Kennywood isn’t what I remember as a kid.
I love this ride's presence.
Got 4 rides on this today... i am a local and this never gets old.. that first ride every season is always a shocker, regardless of how many times youve rode it
I love this ride.
Agreed
I got 3 rides on this a few weeks ago and it lived up to the hype. And that's saying something considering it was in the mid 40's that day with a very light drizzle.
That's fantastic it runs great in all conditions.
This coaster has such a beautiful setting
I agree. It's rare to get a terrain hyper like this.
This coaster got rebooted into Phantom's Revenge for its 10th anniversary.
Glad the change was made!
This is my home park, so I'm spoiled by this ride and feel like I take it for granted. I'm not a fan of positive gs or overly aggressive ejector airtime, but I can always appreciate no air gates! And great shot at 4:10! Were you coming from there, or did you drive miles away from the park just to get a shot? ;-)
I stayed on the other side of the river so I stopped there after checking into my hotel.
Phantom's Revenge is the definition of insanity. I cannot understand how Kennywood can get away with putting riders through this 85mph rocket train.
I love it.
After sp closed kennywood said they weren’t done breaking records. So it was speculated that they were building a intamin ravine diving giga to replace sp but fan outcries caused them to change last minute
I'm more than content with the ride they got.
This is my home park. I have ridden Phantom more than any other coaster at 316 times. Im definitely a back seat guy. Curtain is my favorite ride. I did notice a slight rattle in the back row on the purple train. I rode it 66 times in 2020
I still need to get on Steel Curtain.
I miss the lazer loop at kennywood it ran from 1980 to 1990 it was my favorite at the time
I'm glad I've ridden shuttle loops elsewhere.
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if this was the best coaster in Pennsylvania, although I'm guessing number 3 behind Skyrush and Steel Curtain. Hopefully I can get out to ride it next year as it's just 3.5 hours away from me
Unfortunately, Steel Curtain was closed so I've yet to ride that one. PA has a ton of top coasters between this, Skyrush, Phoenix, Ravine Flyer II, Candymonium, etc.
I got to ride Skyrush and Phantom on back to back days. I loved both, but I definitely liked Phantom's Revenge more.
Hey canobie coaster I am going to ride phantoms revenge next week, looks awesome.
Have fun!
Finnaly we get one of the best coasters on the planet on this list awesome ride.
I love it!
It's in my backyard so I forget how dope it is too...
It has only grown on me each visit.
@@CanobieCoaster I think it's better than Steel Curtain! thanks so much for such an informative video, it's the best!!!
How is it living next to an amusement park
@@ThrillsofColdplay soooo much fun because whenever my friends go I just meet them there! I practically live at kennywood and sandcastle during the few months of nice weather we get in Pittsburgh. I just hope Kennywood has some new coasters in it’s future. ❤️👑
I’m planning to go to Kennywood next year, would it be worth to go there for more than 1 day?
This park can easily be done in a day, especially when the park has its normal hours. I chose to spend multiple days there not because I needed to, but because I wanted to.
Phantom mechanic here:
Second drop height is 115 feet
First drop height is 160 feet
Second drop is 232 feet
Therefore, change in elevation is 277 feet from top of chain lift to bottom of second drop
Thanks for providing more accurate figures! I came surprisingly close with my calculation.
@@CanobieCoaster no problem! Always happy to help
I personally like this over the Steel Curtain. I live in Pittsburgh and have to ride the coaster at least once a year, by far my favorite coaster of all time
Me too.
Watching this video after an edible just put phantoms revenge on my bucket list, it now joins a short list of coasters that I think can beat velocicoaster as my no 1
This ride is spectacular.
I have heard that turn at the bottom of the second drop had strong positive Gs back when it was Steel Phantom, did you think it was?
I never rode this coaster when it was Steel Phantom. I imagine that turn was still very forceful.
That bend was an absolute bruiser for me as a kid. The head restraints where the worst. Head raddled back and forth unless you held it back and to the side. That bend hurt lots of people. It was awesome.
The steel phantom from the 90s banged your head so hard in the loops there used to be a paramedic at the exit. It was that awful
Oh no!
My dad (a big coaster enthusiast) rode steel phantom he said it was the roughest coaster he's ever been on
Ouch!
So is it a mega or hyper. You keep going between the 2
It's both.
While I prefer Wildcat's Revenge and Skyrush over Phantom's Revenge, the margin for preference is very small. I love the use of terrain and powerful airtime.
This is still my favorite in PA.
Yeah!
Nice!
This ride is great I I think this is ride is slightly overrated since so many people say it’s underrated but still making Top ten northeast coaster and Second best coaster in PA. I live in East Pennsylvania so probably Kennywood is my number 6 of major parks close to me btw
I think it's a special ride for its power and uniqueness.
My first ride on phantom was a back seat nightr ride (keep in mind, I was 10 at the time and terrified of phantom)
*Edit*
Phantom is running a tad rough (nothing too noticeable) as of 2023, also that double down in the airtime packed finally is insane
I still want to try this at night.
It is amazing, on the second drop you feel like you fall forever plus it looks like you are diving into a bottomless pit coupled with the fact that you can't see the track or the train it feels like you are free-falling
I'd say it's the best coaster in Kennywood but I haven't ridden Steel Curtain so that could change in the future. I can't say it's the best coaster in Pennsylvania yet or at all as Kennywood is the only park in the state that I've been to. I hope to also visit Knoebels, Waldameer, Hersheypark and Dorney Park in the future as well.
I also haven't ridden Steel Curtain yet, but I suspect I'd still prefer Phantom's Revenge over it since Phantom focuses more on airtime. But I can't say for sure until I ride Curtain one day.
I figured out what model, Steel Phantom is.
It's acuity a
Steel Twisted Terrain Coaster. It's like CGI because there coaster models are called Twisted Wooden Coasters. So its a Morgan Mega (Type of a Hyper Model below 200ft) Twisted (if GCI calls they'res Twisted Wooden Coasters, then why not steel coasters!?) Terrain Coaster. A Morgan Mega Twisted Terrain Coaster Model.
I don't care what this ride counts as since it's epic.
@@CanobieCoaster That's fine. I'm just saying what it is.
Been on that rite many times it is great
I love it.
In case it helps with finding the elevation change of the ride, Kennywood has stated that the second hill is 115 feet.
Thank you!
kennywood is my home park, so i get a lot of rides on this thing, top 20 all the way! im surprised you grayed out tho cuz i haven’t once
Greyouts aren't all that uncommon for me.
@@CanobieCoaster Happens to some, happens to others. The only coaster I've ever greyed out on was Mindbender
The Canada one?
@@CanobieCoaster Yeah in the mall, it was a LONG time ago when I was dating a girl from Canada, her family lived not to far from the mall ( this was like 12 years ago ), so every time we went to visit, I'd hit up the mall and ride the coaster and some rides at the indoor park. I think its still there, it was a good time. Actually worked out good, she could go shopping for clothes and purses and stuff and I could ride rides. Im pretty sure its still there, the restrainers are friggen awful tho
First time I took my wife on this ride was at night. She said Braddock (the town across the river) looks beautiful at night.
I replied, "From here".
Oh my!
Fr
"Steel Phantom was an Arrow looper.... but Steel Phantom had a flaw: it was an Arrow looper"
I like a lot of their loopers despite their flaws.
I don't think there is a better overall speed machine than Phantom's Revenge. Before they installed the final trims and did the speed reductions it was hitting 90-91mph at the bottom of the ravine and then flying into the station at 75mph. It still sustains high speeds, but on a good day it might run 88mph and hit the last trims at about 68-70mph which is still nuts.
It feels every bit that fast.
There is zero way it hits the final brakes at 70 mph, that would kill you, I also don’t believe it’s possible to hit that speed when the elevation change is only 270 ft
Being old enough to ride Steel Phantom, I can say after many rides, if you made a concerted effort to push your head back against the headrest and hold it tightly in place, you could alleviate the roughness it caused. But who thinks or wants to worry about that?
Leaning forwards is my go-to on rides with head-banging.
@@CanobieCoaster Didn't try that, but with 4 inversions in a row, not sure that would've worked. It was that rough.
@@CanobieCoaster If they were the same kind of inversions or not right in succession, then maybe.
I rode this coaster 13 times my entire life I also came to Kennywood 5 times
Nice!
It’s still my favorite
Awesome!
This is my home park... I was just tall enough to ride Steel Phantom the last year it was open... I don’t remember it too much I just remember I had to take out my earrings.
At least you can say you rode the original.
@@CanobieCoaster definitely! Like I said I don’t really remember it... but I’m not the biggest fan of Arrow loopers so I’m sure Phantoms Revenge is a lot better.
Can you review the Lil Phantom?
Already did!
Having rode both versions of this coaster, I truly feel that the Steel Phantom version was a lot better than the Phantoms Revennge version. The loops, bat wing and inversions were awesome.
I prefer airtime to inversions myself.
phantom is my fav at kennywood
Same
I love this ride, and this review. I just disagree with one thing. I think this is 100% a front row ride. I feel like all the elements are better except for the drop down the ravine. I also feel like the ending is better in the front.
To each their own! All seats are fantastic though.
Have they sorted the insane system where if you buy the most expensive fast tracks they don't let you choose your seat for the ride??? I thought this was absolutely nuts and because the ride op was a complete arse about it (honestly seemed to enjoy telling me no), kind of ruined my Kennywood experience. Want to go in future and have more time there.. Phantom's Revenge was amazing but I couldn't place it highly due to the tainted experience, so I need to go again to see where it really sits. Annoyingly it's a fairly long way from the UK!
All coasters allow you to either pick or request a row when I tried their skip-the-line pass in 2022.
@@CanobieCoaster Maybe they took note of what we said then! I can't imagine we were the only ones..glad to hear it! :)
9:03. I am an incredibly skinny guy who's only ridden the phantom in the front and 3rd row, I get THRASHED in my seat at the very bottom of the hill.
The airtime is aggressive.
@@CanobieCoaster by that point in the ride I'm sliding out my seat ngl. It that moment and then the lil pop of airtime shooting out of thunderbolt.
Underrated my ass!
People always say it's good, but it doesn't get as much praise as it should.
1:34 so true lol
Arrow was revolutionary, but they weren't smooth until the end.
Taking Steel Phantom out was a big mistake. I miss it
I'm glad Kennywood kept the first two drops.
@@CanobieCoaster I am too but I do miss it. I think it was cooler to watch than phantoms revenge. The inversions were pretty fast
3:53, 5 mph?
When it was converted, it got 5 mph faster.
@@CanobieCoaster oh, ok, makes sense, I thought you meant its max speed was 5 mph when it was Steel Phantom lol
purple's revenge
Yes
I have ridden both Steel phantom and Phantom's Revenge. Phantom's Revenge is light years better than Steel phantom. Is my favorite hyper. I just did a Kennywood video and said Phantom's Revenge is better then Skyrush and I ment it
Only The Second Best Purple Hyper Coaster On The East Coast
Which one do you have ahead of it?
@CanobieCoaster Mako
Actually 232 foot drop
Nice!
I feel like this is become so underrated it’s overrated that’s just my opinion it’s about 11 on my list and second best coaster in PA bet out by skyrush there’s a lot of airtime in it there’s a unique layout and cool scenery down the ravine great coaster 10/10
I love everything about this ride.
I do two
I LOVED this video! I just don't understand why you have to show stats that denote the highest part of track to the lowest part of track when no other coaster stat does that. That might be how "vertical drop" works on ski hills, but on roller coasters it's a virtually irrelevant stat. In 1991 Steel Phantom had a lift hill height of 160''. The 2nd hill crests even lower, but Its drop was the worlds biggest and fastest in 1991 at 225'; well within the "hyper coaster" range, leading to speeds of 85 MPH. When it got converted to Phantom's Revenge a decade later, the drop was actually increased by 3' too.
It's generally established that the term "hyper coaster" is used to denote any coaster with either a height or drop between 200' and 299.5'. That term was 1st used to describe when Cedar Point opened MAX XL-200' by Arrow, with a height of 200' and a drop of 194'.)
In the year 2,000 Intamin used the term "Giga" when it opened the 1st full circuit roller coaster in the world to have a height of 310' and a drop of 300', when it opened Millennium Force. I don't make the rules, but if I had my way I'd make it so that the more important stat would be be based on DROP rather than height, since height has nothing to do with drop, speed length or any other stat of the coaster.
I consider Orion a Giga Coaster (even though B&M doesn't since they don't even classify Fury 325 as a Giga Coaster) because Orion has a drop of 300'. However: From the lift hill alone I'd call it a "Hyper" if all I had to go on was the height of either the lift hill from its beginning, or the height of the crest of the lift hill from the ground below it. But if the new rules you're introducing are the elevation difference from the lowest elevation the track has to the highest elevation the track has: that must be a new rule and that new rule sucks. "Drop" (according to roller coaster parlance) refers to the biggest SINGLE element of elevation loss on any coaster from when it either crests the biggest descending hill (assuming it immediately drops it's biggest drop to it's fastest speed) or starts to get steeper to when it drops to the nadir of the trough of that biggest and fastest drop. It's not always the 1st drop either (as Phantom's Revenge shows us.) ;)
It's up to us coaster enthusiasts to keep those terms clear. Please don't further confuse those stats by confusing height with drop let alone pull a "downhill ski resort" method conflating the highest lift serviced skiable terrain with the lowest skiable lift serviced terrain of any ski resort with with the "drop" of a roller coaster. (Even then one can almost always ski the whole thing in one run, but I digress) Otherwise "Drop" will become a nebulous term that everybody becomes confused with. Thanks again for this awesome review of Phantom's Revenge.
I wanted to cover the full elevation change for Phantom since it's such a big contrast.
Now give us a Lil Phantom review
Sorry I'm a bit low on footage of that one. I didn't want to sit around filming other kids.
@@CanobieCoaster Ok lmao that's fine
I was going to review Joker on April Fool's but maybe I'll review Lil Phantom.
@@CanobieCoaster That would be awesome lmao
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They ran two in 2020 at least!
The Steel Phantom was built when I was 7. I was terrified of it but amazed by it's layout. Phantom revenge still has a good layout but the color scheme isn't as intimidating as the Steel Phantom black and gray. Plus the trains looked sharper back then.
The black did look intimidating.
steel phantom > phantoms revenge
I never rode the original unfortunately.
I rode the Steel Phantom countless times never had a problem. People are wimps
Most Arrow loopers don't bother me since my head was above the over the shoulder restraint. I do prefer airtime hills over inversions though.
i find phantom kinda overrated, rly the only elite moments were those first 4 hills in the finale, but those were some of the strongest, most aggressive and rapid fire airtime moments on their own and with those restraints it bumps it up to the next level
I'm a big fan of coasters with minimalistic restraints and lots of airtime (hence why I also rate rides like Phoenix and Coaster so high). But I think the first half is fantastic as well with the mix of lats, positives, and airtime.
@@CanobieCoaster i obviously like minimalistic restraints more, but they dont add that much too a ride from my experiences, i think one thing i like almost as much is feeling open, its one reason why i love the PTC trains and Intamin T-bars so much, both give u room, but not an insane amount, but when ur sitting straight up, exposed to the air all around, it feels like ur flying and i love it