Social Injustice in Scottish History: British army massacre over The Militia Act
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2020
- In Social Injustice in Scottish History: British army massacre at Tranent Scottish history tour guide Bruce Fummey tells one of the horror Tales from Scotlands History, where a civil dispute turned into a British army massacre. The Militia Act 1797 led to civil strife then a massacre by British troops.
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Hi Bruce Fummey, love your videos, was just wondering, if you would like a picture of a map of the massacre of tranent? Maybe you have one if not , or if anyone else would like a picture of the map of the massacre of tranent just let me know and I'll send it to whoever wants one, PEACE!
Yeah man, can you upload a link here
@@raajeweler6569 In the Highlands (Hielands) they spoke Scots Gaelic which was a dialect of Irish Gaelic (OK, Sorry! Let's not fight when we have the Sassenachs to deal with!) Until the 17th century the literary language was the same; later the "demotic" speech went in slightly different directions. But in the 18th century, both versions of Gaelic were referred to (sometimes) as "Erse". And YES: the "Scotii" were an Irish tribe that colonised south western Pictland (Dál Riada) back in the 5th century CE. So "really" all they Sco's are just geographically misplaced Ahrish!!!!
I would love to have a chat about Johnny Cope 1745 battle. How can I contact you cheers
Learning of the reason(s) for the massacre taking place is shocking enough, but putting names and individual family stories to it was truly heartbreaking. This is the history we should be taught in schools. Thanks Bruce.
very well said buddy, your spot on.
Thats exactly the reason why they didn`t teach us our history in school.
I'm so glad I was born in Cymru.
Can you imagine being english ?
no its not, this should never be told, we dont want to be bitter arseholes, we are all arseholes as it is, the only way is to move forward and forget the past, its gone and now the only good thing is to strengthen the union for economical reasons, scottish nationalism should be illegal we are british and we should never be scottish again
Hearing those names read out still brings a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Lest we forget. Thanks
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I was born and brought up in Tranent. It was never mentioned to us all the way through school, indeed it was only when the sculpture was unveiled in the Civic Square that got me looking for further info. I did have a book many years ago which was both sad and informative, and really opened my eyes to the whole sad tale. Thanks for your video, more power to your elbow sir !!!
I grew up in Paisley. The Paisley Canal disaster was never mentioned in school. I was aware of the Glen Cinema disaster but only through the living memory of my parents. And there are others. The point I'm making is that there's more history to teach than hours in the day and with limited time, you can only teach so much in the hope that the children will get interested enough to find out more for themselves about their local and national history.
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When I was at school,no Scottish or Irish history was taught, all 1066 and all that and The Raj.
@@DH.2016 Same here. And although I studied history, it was years before I leaarned about the time the riot Act was read in Paisley twice in one day. And the folk fleeing down Storie Steet...
The Bone spurs and the boxer references.... Brilliant! Cheers from the US
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours An allusion to Ali- yes?
Of course
This was expertly crafted. You're a natural story teller. I really enjoyed the way you weaved everything together, even honoring those who fell, by telling their stories. Saving that vital detail for the end was paramount to painting the picture of this great social injustice - They're all rich men's wars, aren't they? ...and the working class is always caught up in it 💔.
Thank you Bruce for naming the slaughtered. There's no other way to describe what happened to those people.
My great grandad was born in Tranent and brought up and lived his life in Edinburgh, Dalkeith and Leith. None of this history about Tranent or any of these other places was ever taught to us at the school. Thank you Bruce!
As a social studies teacher here in Newfoundland, Canada, I love telling the real human stories behind the "facts." My students love it, and it's what makes history truely fascinating. It's also one of the reasons why I love listening to your stories, Bruce. (Plus the jokes :)!)
Your really sticking your neck out! I have heard MANY MANY examples of history and political teachers who end up in prison for teaching the "wrong" history.
Brings tears to my eyes! How so appalling and evil actions could take place, so long ago but I feel it's like yesterday. Thank you again for bringing this piece of history out into the open.
In my job as a delivery driver I have passed the woman with the drum numerous times and always wondered what the story was behind it.
A very interesting, and horrific, part of history that's too often been covered up, as so many barbaric acts have been.
I'd like to know who commissioned the statue to Jackie.
Bruce, you do a fantastic job of bringing history, especially the lesser known history, to life
So when are you going to send your demo tapes out to television and Indy stations ? They would love Scotland History Tours.
Another brilliantly researched and presented picture, albeit tragic, of our Scottish history.
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NO, they are controlled by TYRANNTS!
I think I know very much of the Glencoe massacre story and had the very uncomfortable feeling when I camped near one of the settelments on the anniversary. the massacre was not compacted to one area as the can were dispersed along the glen. Most killed by troops were on the clan chief area which is currently invercoe campsite. The clan graves are on the island just along the loch. sorry Bruce , I have a few whiskys in me so names so names and timelines are confussed at the moment. I got to this after watching a few glen coe massacre videos including yours which well sent me to look at your Tarent massacre vid. As a Scot I was surprised this was not well known I never heard of Tarent.Thank you Bruce. I found this more terrible than the glen coe massacre story though they still have my heart ( my clan is mcintyre and close friends to mcDonald )
Any massacre is caused by 1 group being armed and the other not.
The reason is sometime never established.
The guilty are rarely punished because, strangely enough, they normally originate in the ranks of the authorities.
Still ongoing to this day.
I knew nothing of this case Bruce, being a west-coaster.
I am glad I started watching your wee vlogs...entertaining AND educational...
Cheers
Watching this in Tranent while making a black pudding roll and looking out the kitchen window. Great video👍🏴✌️
Being from Tranent I know this story well. I have to say Bruce you tell it very well. Keep up the brilliant work. By the way the wee bairn was added to the statue because it was falling over!
Ah well now
When I first discovered your programs on Scottish History I was interested in learning what I didn't know, and to enjoy the reinforcement of what I did know. However, you have taken this venue far above and beyond what ever I might have anticipated, to information simply not available outside of those who lived during the events and times presented. Your programs are so rewarding that I have to find the money to join as a patron.
Ah, you're too kind
I love that you say the names of the people who fell victim to these atrocities, rather than saying "oh yeah a dozen people where gunned down", it just makes it all the more real and impactful.
"Read the Riot Act" was one of my father's most favorite expressions.
Superb as ever mate, quite simply superb!
Jackie Crookston is one of my husband's forebears - very proud of her sacrifice. I only discovered her role when doing family tree research a few years ago. We live in Australia and both of us have proud Scottish heritage (mine is via the Sutherland Highland clearances)
Quite right lassie
Jackie is also in my family tree.
@@alanchrzaszcz8786 Nice to know! Where are you from?
I grew up in Ormiston and went to high school in Tranent. I never knew about this. Prestonpans yes, but not this. It is truly awful. So sad, when you listed the victims and the manner of their demise it brought tears to my eyes.
Aye, terrible
Another incredible video! Thanks so much from the US!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a regular visitor to Tranent and Ormiston and I've seen that little bronze Monument... little did I know how bloodied the soil became because of massive social injustice...
You really are a great presenter and I like what you do very much but so sad is my heart at listening to this sad Tale that I cannot tick like .... but I'm grateful educating me. 🙏
Thanks for covering this. I used to pass Jackie Crookston's statue every day, and think in amazement how few people even knew why the statue was there.
Had you been my history professor, Id have been a straight A student. I love your storytelling, sir!
Aye, but none of these stories are in the syllabus, so maybe a fail😁
Agree, it's more a discussion about history, than a lecture.
Be great to sit down with this guy, with a pint, and chat about our history
Fascinating. I did not know this. Great presentation as well!
As usual, a fascinating story. Well done.
Heartbreaking stuff man! So painful but essential to hear. Thanks!
That is a fantastic dramatic sculpture
Thanks for highlighting the events surrounding the Tranent Massacre and putting them into context.
Bruce you are doing Scotland a GREAT service! You deserve a STARBUCKS Shop instead of just a cup coffee.
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This channel is the greatest gem the algorithm has ever suggested!
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So much blood and oppression in Scottish history. The more I learn from you the sadder I feel for the peoples of Scotland. This story gave me real chills and tears. Thank you 🙏
You're welcome
When they couldn't find a major enemy to fight, they were pretty good at masacreing each other learned from the Vikings? My clan was almost desecrated by the Keith's.
@@lorrainegunn4111 do you mean "decimated"?
I have always loved Scottish history, I was probably the only teenager in my city going to the library every week and checking out books on Mary Queen of Scots and Robert the Bruce. I love your channel and am so happy I found it!!!
That's brilliant! Cheers Katy
Thanks for the sad but amazing insight into a part of our history. Maybe the BBC should look to you as a replacement for Neil Oliver. Then we'd get some truth rather than Oliver's romantic idea of the history of Scotland.
Aye, I'll no be haudin ma breath🤣
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours You'll no need to once Scotland gets its well deserved independence. Your delivery of the facts is much better than anyone else I've listened too, not to mention the fact you actually deliver the facts. Keep keeping on brother!
@@cucluu3579 >Scottish King was the first to unify the crowns.
>Scotland joined union to gain greater access to colonies.
>Scotland saw huge investment and development with Glasgow becoming the second city of the Empire.
>England the only nation of the Union without a parliament.
>Scotland receive disproportionately high levels of public spending.
>Scotland have disproportionately high numbers of MPs per population.
I'm pretty sure the BBC only picks black people that make the middle class English people feel comfortable.
As something of a student of Irish history this story comes as no great surprise. Brilliant video have only just found this channel, was recommended I assume because I was looking at some old videos about the Tan War
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I'm enjoying every single video of yours that is being recommending to me. Thank you very much for giving me this rich history.
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much for your additions to my historic knowledge! As the child of a Scotsman, I was pleasantly impressed by your informative channel. I will be watching from now on. Well done sir. Well done 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm brand new to your page, and only watched a couple of vids so far but they're great! Very informative and your a very gd host! You can hear emotion in your voice and see it in your face. You can see you care a lot about the subjects which I feel help keeps the audience captivated.
Thanks Iain. I really appreciate you taking the time and being so kind to comment
Thank-you for the account. I would have had ancestors there at that time. harrowing history.
You're doing important work--thank you.
In a lot of these videos, I don't know whether to cry or be furious!
Aye probably a bit of both
Thank you much for telling it . I knew this from my late mother.
Wonderful stuff, love your videos, you really bring history to life.
Fantastic Content. I live locally to the towns mentiond and I've heard the heartbreaking story before but never as in depth. Brilliantly put together. Subscribed.
Cheers
Thank you. I had read about the event many times but this presentation is very informative.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's great to get that encouragement
Thank you for such amazing videos. I find them captivating.
Huge thanks Stuart. I just noticed your generous donation. Please forgive me for not noticing before now
Your fantastical examples of exemption are gold.
Glad to have met you, Bruce, and to see your video-making in the raw. I'm looking forward to seeing any more that you put together. Good luck with the channel.
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours Any time.
Truly sobering and hearbreaking. Thanks for sharing.
You're very welcome
Well done more if this please.
Wow, I may be 12 months or so behind in watching this one but my god it's one of your best Bruce. Can't help but feel you should be an important of our politic in an independent Scotland.
I try to avoid party politics. There are other platforms for that
very good info that we need
Had two ancestors (south of the border) who were picked out to join malitias one managed to get someone to go for him and another didn't. Almost as bad as being ganged on into "joining" the Navy.
Just excellent storytelling and unbelievably compelling and poignant stories. Thank you.
You have a new sub. Thanks for your interesting channel.
Thank YOU Michael
This was difficult to listen to "Even now" that got me.
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Keep the stories coming.
'Flea in your ear' definitely English too. another wonderful video thank you. It would be good to have a whole 10 mins about the riot act, it's beginning and end (?) and various times it's been used, although I am quite familiar with what it means, largely due to your videos.
Conformity is the worst aspect of human behaviour.
Sometimes it is good to see the tragedy and failings in history. Not just battles and triumphs. Well done
Well done Bruce ,great videos 28/7/23
Thanks 👍
Needless to say, the videos are excellent. But this guy’s real strength is thumbnails.
A powerful thought provoking story the contents of which I was totally ignorant of but no more thanks to you. Thanks for that..
How awful. This is truly horrible, sometimes I despair of people.😢
I grew up in a poor fishing and logging town. After high school, boys had a couple of options to earn a living. Become a fisherman and work on the North Pacific Ocean, work in the woods as a logger or join the military. College was an option for very few. In my graduation class of less than 100, and half were male, about 12 joined the military. Fortunately, there were no active wars at the time, so they all survived their enlistment.
The poor and working classes have always carried the burden of military duties, which may explain why so many wealthy people think wars are the solution to world problems, instead of diplomacy.
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My Grand Father fought with the Canadian Expedidionary Force. He was always proud to say that he served in the Black Watch, the Candian Black Watch. I am proud of his service. Do you think I waste my time having mproud for his service with the Black Watch. I am glad to hear your stories and experiences. THANKS SO MUCH for your presentations.
This was fascinating. I didn't know anything about this and would love to learn more. Any books to read would be awesome.
I don't have a book, but there are good resources online. www.scottishmining.co.uk/506.html
www.johngraycentre.org/making-connections/
but there are others if you search about
Neil Oliver wouldn’t make an antiestablishment video
Ahm no Neil Oliver😜
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Thank God!
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That's because Kneel Oliver is the establishment!
that walking ego would claim the victims gladly dived on sword and into bullet to firm up the union, the ghoul of a man
Thankyou for this video, so good to see, although so sad. I recently discovered Jackie (Joanna) was my 4th great grandmother. She was also one who fell that day. It got me looking into the mining history, so many children working down the mines. They were very poor and did not have an easy life in those days.
She was my 4th great auntie 😊
Only discovered this channel today and I’m engrossed.
How you parlay! how it was brings the past into the future, or present as it is now and as such should make us all think. Thanks Bruce Keep keepingon JJ
That's al we can do auld yin😜
banging good episode
Story similar to the peterloo massacre in 1819 when Cavalry charge at the crowds of protesters who were protesting for the reform of parliament in Manchester
i think, but may be wrong, that they read the riot act there too
Shhhh, don’t bring that up on a Scottish nationalist channel, it might upset the anti-English knuckle draggers.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 how would that upset anyone? It just confirms that the British ruling class was and is corrupt and hates the ordinary British people. How is "oh they killed the English too" an argument against that?
@@robokill387 I’m not arguing that the ruling elites were not brutal. I am suggesting that Scottish nationalists often pretend that those elites reserved harsher penalties for Scots.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 citation needed. I've never seen anyone argue that. Seems like a strawman argument to me.
Brilliant…greetings from Perth Western Australia….the past few years we have witnessed the stories and history of the slave trade and injustice,inequality and contempt for our fellow human beings and it’s near always about the racial differences yet as I was taught by my Musselburgh born father what always comes to mind was the injustice,inequality and contempt held for our own kind along economic lines was despicable and disgusting…and still prevails sadly to this day.
Thankyou for the history sir….a wee prayer for the victims of the Tranent Massacre.
Gee...I wonder how the Aborigines feel.......
@@bjm4148 no doubt they feel same as any aborigine of any land where others have gone...dispossessed,oppressed,disrespected.enslaved....
Can we get a petition for this guy to replace Neil Oliver?
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours what's his name? I don't think he introduced himself.
Awesome account of this massacre. Am fae Musselburgh and worked in Tranent a bit. Always saw Jackie Crookston wi' that drum and her fist in the air but never knew it at the time what it meant. Nae Militia! La lucha continua! Alba saor.
It was really important that this was story was pointed out. How horrific.
Ive been avoiding this one. Now I understand why. Tragic AF
So much of Scotlands history is hidden from us. There was a village in North Angus called Burnside. It was cleared just before WW1. There is a forest planted over the sins of the landlords. In the middle of that forest is a Celtic cross, put up by two Canadians who were born there. The first line reads, to the destitute people of Burnside
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Riot act read at my school after a few unsavoury incidents were telt that next time the polis were coming in in full gear great content fella
Nice one. I'd never heard of the Trenent massacre. Reminds me of the Peterloo massacre and many others across the empire, drunken cavalry and the absolute contempt of the British authorities for the poor. And yes, I'm familiar with the Riot Act.
My stepfather served with the Blackwatch Highland Regiment during WWII, & he served in Nth Africa against Irwin Rommel's Africa Corps, & he was the inspiration for me joining the Australian Regular Army, R. I. P John Comrie McDiarmid. WO 1, R.S.M, Blackwatch Highland Regiment
Nothing has changed. I say, “let the rich fight rich men’s wars”.
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"Read the Riot Act" refers to the statement in the Riot Act 1715 (1 Geo. 1. St. 2 c. 5) which told people "to disperse themselves and to peaceably depart to their habitations" upon the "pains contained in this Act". It was repealed in 1973 in the UK, and 1987 here in New Zealand (where it was last used [to no effect] at the Queen Street Riots in 1984).
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Yes you have mentioned the Riot Act before, and that was the first time I ever knew what it meant.
Good video
Never knew of this massacre. An incredibly sad story.
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Loving your videos m8. I would love to know what getting read the riot act fae ma mum for years but never knew what the act was lol
Aye it's a phrase I heard often
Hi Bruce
Love your videos when are you coming back to Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺
Good question. I wish I knew the answer
Thank you Bruce, these injustices must never be forgot; especially when it comes to Indyref#2
Whilst I have pretty strong views on the rights of a duely elected Scottish Parliament making its own choices about democratic plebiscites I'm not entirely sure the two are connected
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Injustice implies attitude and intent; for that reason I believe they are linked. As with all, this is only my opinion, no more.
This is so disgusting and reprehensible. It is heartbreaking. 😥🌹🦋❤️☮️
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Very very very Interesting, you make it incredibly interesting just like Neil Oliver and the other fella, hope you get payed well. Yes I have heard of the riot act. very sad story just goes to show human nature never changes.
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Brilliant Documentaries.. Been finding ancestors in my family research being in the Lanarkshire and Perthshire Malitia.
Cheers
How can I have never heard of this before?
You were maybe busy doing other stuff dude. Don't take it so hard😎
Many thanks for this one Bruce. A powerful story very well told. Have passed Jackie Crookston's statue many a time and had thought it was something to do with the mining community in which the area is closely associated with. I now know the real story thanks to you. All power to you.
Thanks for listening
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Had a look over at the Wikipedia page for this subject and it's missing a lot of details you have covered. Is updating it with the benefit of your research something you might consider?
I wouldn't even know how to do that
@@billmcque2021 Wikipedia is government propaganda.