The Real Origins and Different Sub Species of Targaryen Dragons

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2022
  • Dragons from Game of thrones and House of the dragon are very different from each other and they are said to be of three different breeds but we are also going to talk about their origins, the evolution or how they came to be and also whether Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar are also quite different from each other.
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  • @stormerjc9493
    @stormerjc9493 Před rokem +611

    If I had to take a stab and what the different breeds are designed to do if we go with they where breed with magic I'd say that,
    The syrax species is designed for speed and agility in the air with a smaller size and smaller shape
    The caraxes species is designed for long distance travel with its long light body, lone wings and extra back leg wings
    And the drogon species is designed for pure fighting power with robust body, massive Jaws and powerful fire

    • @shoppincarties
      @shoppincarties Před rokem +81

      but caraxes only has an elongated neck and extra wings because of a birth defect, no other dragons look like him

    • @mrdodo3132
      @mrdodo3132 Před rokem +32

      @@shoppincarties yes but there are 3 types of dragons mainly based on their skulls, the wolf like, the dinosaur like and the in between type. even George went over this and there are multiple reasons for why the dragons look so different.

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +3

      @@shoppincarties Exactly.

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +9

      @@mrdodo3132 Yes but it still debunks Stormers theory as Caraxes is unique.

    • @fang609
      @fang609 Před rokem +14

      Problem with Caraxes is that his deformed according to an interview. Which explains why he is the way he is. I'm guessing any other Dragons we see with the wolf/dog skulls will look different. Heck we're seen what Vhagar and Meleys look like and they look completely different from all the other Dragons

  • @abe9984
    @abe9984 Před rokem +700

    I hope when we see Dreamfyre, she looks like Drogon, Viserion, and Rheagal, since in theory she’s they’re biologically mother

    • @harshaldeshpande8869
      @harshaldeshpande8869 Před rokem +19

      All of them look alike
      Just the colour and sizes are different

    • @MfezekoMatshoba
      @MfezekoMatshoba Před rokem +53

      @@harshaldeshpande8869 Lol what? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @kingsman5913
      @kingsman5913 Před rokem +17

      We don't actually know that for sure it's just a theory.

    • @sinceredtb3227
      @sinceredtb3227 Před rokem +20

      @@harshaldeshpande8869 uh no daemon dragon is different

    • @bornaerdec533
      @bornaerdec533 Před rokem +6

      @@sinceredtb3227 drogon viserion and rhaegal are daenery's dragons

  • @jackgould5332
    @jackgould5332 Před rokem +328

    Caraxes is actually meant to somewhat deformed, as a young sunfire was shown in the extended trailers he had a similar look to caraxes but not the long serpentine body and neck

    • @Lethal_Giggles
      @Lethal_Giggles Před rokem +9

      Must have missed it. Don’t remember seeing Sunfyre.

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem

      Wrong stop talking shit

    • @muntu1221
      @muntu1221 Před rokem +21

      I feel like people are reading too much into that statement. It sounded to me like they were just saying they were going for a more odd or disturbing look, contrasting it with Syrax who was more falcon-like.

    • @vCLOWNSHOESv
      @vCLOWNSHOESv Před rokem +8

      Caraxes is a blood worm which explains the appearance.

    • @muntu1221
      @muntu1221 Před rokem +13

      @@vCLOWNSHOESv Blood *wyrm, which is usually just another name for a dragon. But it may also be the inspiration for him being serpentine.

  • @seventhirty22
    @seventhirty22 Před rokem +267

    I hope this doesn't come off differently than intended, but the dragons didn't come to Westeros with Aegon and his sisters. They came to Westeros with Aegon's great-great-great grandparents.
    In fact, Vhagar and Meraxes were born in Westeros, on Dragonstone. Balerion is the only dragon that was actually born in Valyria.
    Not trying to be rude. But hopefully offer a helpful bit of information...
    Great video!!! Keep them coming...

    • @sinco7562
      @sinco7562 Před rokem +17

      Good looking out, but I think he cleared that up. Balerion and 4 other dragons were brought to Dragonstone from Old Valyria. Meraxes and Vhagar hatched on Dragonstone, then Aegon and his sister's brought those 3, Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar to mainland Westeros.

    • @valarmorghulis5575
      @valarmorghulis5575 Před rokem +9

      Fact. Balerion was already very big and at his prime when he bonded with Aegon. He arrived with Aenar Targaryen when they exited Valyria because of his daughter's prophecy of an impending doom.

  • @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
    @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Před rokem +23

    Meraxes and Vhagar were born on Dragonstone. Of the multiple dragons that Aenar Targaryen brought Balerion was the youngest having been born in Valyria several years before the Doom.

  • @hilltop9524
    @hilltop9524 Před rokem +161

    As soon as I saw the different breeds/subspecies of the dragons of ASoIAF in the new show, I immediately thought that they were meant for different things:
    Bulkier breed - Balerion, Drogon, Vhagar, Rhaegal, Syrax
    Slim and agile breed - Caraxes, Sunfyre, Tessarion, Meleys, Morning
    Smaller breeds, meant for delivering messages and joyriding - Moondancer, Quicksilver
    I also believe that Valyrians bred them for specific jobs to assist in Valyria but that they were all bred for war or at the very least could be utilized in wars, be it vanguard, support, distraction, or messengers.

    • @tresjolieme81
      @tresjolieme81 Před rokem +13

      you forgot slender Dreamfrye who I hope has Drogons look but blue.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Před rokem +5

      And Meraxes?

    • @hilltop9524
      @hilltop9524 Před rokem +7

      @@Alejojojo6 Hard to say for sure, from the descriptions of her, she was most likely the bulky breed as she was said to be big enough to eat a horse in one go. Possibly abnormally large agile breed, since HBO's own artwork shows her to have similar features to Caraxes (really long neck, similar to the Fellbeast in LoTR)

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Před rokem +7

      @@hilltop9524
      Caraxes only has a long neck due to a deformation as a hatchling

    • @nomer4
      @nomer4 Před rokem +11

      Geez, the books say in plain text that Caraxes don't form correctly in the egg, and you come up with a million types and archetypes on a case-by-case basis.

  • @connormohun1373
    @connormohun1373 Před rokem +18

    Just an FYI - Aegon’s ancestors brought them to Dragonstone. Balerion was one of the five and Vhegar and Meraxes are their descendants :)

  • @SkaffaS
    @SkaffaS Před rokem +10

    Drogon is still my favorite, he looks so menacing, imagine him at Vhagar's or even Balerion's size.

    • @DeB8834
      @DeB8834 Před 28 dny

      @SkaffaS drogon is my favorite too.. I m agree with you🐉🖤🔥❤

  • @menumlor9365
    @menumlor9365 Před rokem +145

    As far as Danny is concerned they’re not beasts. They’re her children.

  • @sean5558
    @sean5558 Před rokem +56

    I would lean towards the theory of hybridization of wyverns and fire wyrms. I would also speculate that the parasitic fire wyrms with hands and faces that infected princess Aerea were used somehow by the Valyrians to fuse humans with blood of the dragon, like how retro virus is used in genetic engineering to introduce new genes into genome

    • @alixmattarozzi4724
      @alixmattarozzi4724 Před rokem +1

      Really interesting !!

    • @chelseasherrell6277
      @chelseasherrell6277 Před rokem +1

      yes! i said this on another vid where the same two people were arguing over and over in the comments about how there was nothing else in the world of ASOIAF that could harm a Targaryen dragon, especially Balerion.....even though something obviously did bc of his condition upon returning with princess Aerea. Septon Barth's book, Dragons, Wyrms, and WyrvernsL Their Unnatural History (which King Baelor I condemned and ordered every copy destroyed, except for a few incomplete surviving fragments) speculated on how it was possible the Valyrian bloodmages may have created dragons from wyvern (and firewyrm=some of the missing bits) stock/DNA. if Barth were indeed correct, then yeah a firewym or wyvern might F a dragon up, although for Balerion it may have taken a whole gang of them. firewyrms were said to live in the 14 Flames long before dragons appeared, that they hatred men, and could breathe fire. wyverns look similar to dragons in ASOIAF but are said to be more ferocious, they have wings and claws, but also sharp weird beaks, could not breathe fire, and were found just a bit south of Valyria on Sothoryos. i think thats probably what happened. maybe, lol love me some GRRM

    • @sean5558
      @sean5558 Před rokem

      @@chelseasherrell6277 absolutely! I think wyvern or fire wyrms probably put up a fight and got some good licks in on Balerion but I think Balerion came out on top and came back and said “ yeah but you should see the other guy” lol

    • @chelseasherrell6277
      @chelseasherrell6277 Před rokem

      @@sean5558 🤣 yeah I can see that

    • @Jacob-ge1py
      @Jacob-ge1py Před rokem

      wouldn't you expect to see accounts of the valyrians taming/using wyverns and fire wyrms then? It would be pretty weird if they managed to go straight from encountering two completely different species, in completely different places to merging the two together without some period of coming to understand both. Especially seeing as we're told that the Valyrians went from sheep farmers to dragons, wouldn't you expect there to be a period of the Valyrians using wyrms and/or wyverns? Utilising either one of those would surely earn them a place in the history books as something other than sheep farmers.

  • @kunik61
    @kunik61 Před rokem +94

    Dragons don’t have breeds in GoT verse.
    I wish Martin wouldn’t make them die all the time. It is weird to mix obsession with dragons with obsession of giving them dramatic roles.
    Though I disagree that Drogon is the last one. We know that some dragons went in absentia. We know there are few more unhatched eggs. We know dragons may be living somewhere far away.

    • @rosesandsunflowers4905
      @rosesandsunflowers4905 Před rokem +4

      Maybe they are in west of the Westeros. I remember Arya going to discover there in the last episode of GOT. (I'm talking according to the series)

    • @kunik61
      @kunik61 Před rokem +1

      @@rosesandsunflowers4905 I am sure they are but still.

    • @justt1984
      @justt1984 Před rokem +2

      @@rosesandsunflowers4905 west of Westeros is just Far East essos, that’s it

    • @DatBoiChris420
      @DatBoiChris420 Před rokem

      They clearly do in HOTD

    • @thesahel7218
      @thesahel7218 Před rokem

      Who’s going to ride them though?

  • @user-cr4cj1fl8z
    @user-cr4cj1fl8z Před rokem +38

    Its time for them to make a show or movie about Valyria before its colapse and show us a litle bit more of the east lands cuz you cant just put prequel after prequel story in Westeros cuz it will get stale and we already know how it all ends so many of the plotline or characters wont matter to us.

  • @canislunaticus
    @canislunaticus Před rokem +15

    Wasn't caraxes said to be deformed? He seems to be the same breed as Arrax and Vermax. Syrax and Sunfyre seems to be the same breed. Seasmoke, dreamfyre, viserion, balerion, drogon and rhaegal seems to be the same breed. But that leaves Meleys who seems to be an entirely different breed, and not only in terms of looks but also her sound design. So it seems to be 4 different breeds (Drogon's breed, Syrax's breed, Vermax's breed and Meleys' breed) of course there can be dragons of same sub species or breed that look different from one another (different bend in horns for example) but the difference is too big for meleys to be related to any of the 3 main breeds unless she or any other dragons are hybrids

    • @helixxia9320
      @helixxia9320 Před 5 měsíci

      i agree caraxes head shape is a bit similar to vermax and arrax and likely the same breed and he probably would have more of a similar body to them too had he not been born with the valyrian blood curse/deformity

    • @anndee5856
      @anndee5856 Před měsícem

      Vermax is actually related to Vermithor's breed.

  • @brandenapexo604
    @brandenapexo604 Před rokem +8

    Caraxes and Vhagar look so unique to me

  • @samirmuhammad1781
    @samirmuhammad1781 Před rokem +63

    daenerys' dragon eggs are probably the three dragon eggs stolen durin Jaehaerys I Targaryen 's reign. they could be Vhagar and Balerion's hatchlings for all we know.

    • @shedrackjenkins1941
      @shedrackjenkins1941 Před rokem

      Whaat

    • @King_Blackheart
      @King_Blackheart Před rokem +1

      Holy shit!!

    • @shedrackjenkins1941
      @shedrackjenkins1941 Před rokem

      @@King_Blackheart that’s what I said!

    • @micheleford4282
      @micheleford4282 Před rokem +3

      or vermithor and silverwing considering jaehaerys had vermithor and his wife had silver wing

    • @makshay
      @makshay Před rokem +2

      3 eggs were stolen and the woman who stole them got ship wrecked near ashai.
      Dannys eggs came from ashai.
      So it makes sense now.

  • @tresjolieme81
    @tresjolieme81 Před rokem +11

    Dreamfrye I hope has Drogons face (since shes the mom), but femininized with her slender blue frame.

  • @makeupbydenicia
    @makeupbydenicia Před rokem +39

    I would love to see Balerion the dread onceeee in this show 😩😩

    • @jackgould5332
      @jackgould5332 Před rokem +9

      We just see his skull, but let's hope they do a at least series about aegons conquest

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 Před rokem +6

      Maybe in a flashback

    • @paulnokio1199
      @paulnokio1199 Před rokem +6

      I predict that this will happen, however I bet they will save it for another spinoff /prequel

    • @tipodeincognito5660
      @tipodeincognito5660 Před rokem +4

      And the showrunners know it. Everyone want the big moody lizard, so I'd be surprised if we dont get some flashback or dream with it. King Viserys was (shortly) its rider too, so its doable.

    • @tipodeincognito5660
      @tipodeincognito5660 Před rokem

      @@jackgould5332 Nothing against that idea, but maybe its too much of dragons and targaryen already. Ther are more places and eras to be explored. ( The first long night, with giants and chidren of the forest would be nice. Back to the ice)

  • @Mr.Agateophile.
    @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +80

    The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't.
    However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the english word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word.
    Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 Před rokem +5

      Okay, whatever you say mister phd

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +2

      @@mikerzisu9508 lol

    • @garrettlich7140
      @garrettlich7140 Před rokem +8

      Thank finally someone who knows thier shit and isn’t an ass about it

    • @klaythompson663
      @klaythompson663 Před rokem

      @Marbas That's because of ignorance from people though. Some languages use the same term for tigers and lions because the people don't care to know the difference. But there are clear distinctions just like with Wyvern vs Dragons.

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +11

      @@klaythompson663 Except that the distinction is a modern addition. So it is not the same situation as lions and tigers at all.
      D&D popularised the idea that Wyverns are a seperate spiecies and that's fine if the setting does draw a distinction such as D&D and indeed ASOIAF. But that rule is not universal by any means. Historically a Dragon is literaly any giant serpentine creature, and in modern deffinitions any giant mythical reptile.
      You're right that it is a topic that many people are ignorant of, but not for the reasons you describe.
      And again, the only Real world distinction comes from English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry yet other European countries did not separate the two. So one cannot even say that European or western dragons are one specific form.
      Only when your specific Fantasy setting specifies there is a difference and then only in that world.

  • @vjimenez8
    @vjimenez8 Před 9 dny

    I like how they give a nod in the show to the rumor Dreamfyre is Dany’s dragons’ mom. They created her EXACTLY like Drogon & Co just a different shade. Momma Dreamfyre 💙

  • @nicknobody1017
    @nicknobody1017 Před rokem +53

    All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns
    A wyvern in most fantasy stories (though not all) is just a different type of dragon.
    The way I see, wyverns and dragons are both very closely related evolution wise. They’re categorically related. Think of it like this: a bearded dragon and a gecko are both lizards so why make a fuss about the specifics?

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +9

      The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't.
      However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the elglish word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word.
      Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +1

      @Your_local_fangirl That's a good point, they are refered to as "kin to dragons" though so I wonder how much the distinction is cultural rather than strictly biological taxonomy.

    • @Dracorientalis
      @Dracorientalis Před rokem

      The first line of your comment is right on the money. But as absolute lifeless spod that's way to into mythologies and history I can clarify a bit more in a real world sense. 'Wyvern (pronounced Why-vern) is actually a term for a biomechanical frame type of certain animals, like humans are bipedal and dogs are quadrapeds. Bats are technically wyverns, using their fore legs / arms to walk as well as fly. All pterasaurs are wyverns for the same reason. However there is a greek / roman mythological creature called: 'Wyvern' too (pronounce wiv-ern and not Why-vern) that gets people confused. Wyverns (wiv-erns) are about human height with a dragon like body that stand up right like chicken or seagull with wings cross behind their backs or tuck in at the sides like modern bird and have snake like necks and heads. They don't breath fire instead they spit acid or tar. So same spelling but different pronouncation and meaning. One is nasty walking winged-snake like acidic tar snot squirter from greek mythos and the other is referrence to a body type of a animal (in most cases, a type of dragon or to describe how flying dinosaurs may have lived on the ground).

  • @deborahgoslin5858
    @deborahgoslin5858 Před rokem +1

    Thanks !

  • @thaprofessa2296
    @thaprofessa2296 Před rokem +2

    Yeah drogon seasmoke and belerion type seem more closely related than others like syrax vhagar and caraxes, kinda points to fire wyrm wyvern hybrids. Also note the nose shape differences

  • @sphereunitedheroes7936
    @sphereunitedheroes7936 Před rokem +26

    Dragons from the game of throne are the closest as a realistic and that's what I like about these creatures.

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem +1

      Dragons were never real so they can't ever be realistic....

    • @sphereunitedheroes7936
      @sphereunitedheroes7936 Před rokem

      @@yourallc-unts Ik, but looking at Drogon's design and his behavior, if you wanted to make a dragon that almost looks real, Drogon is a great example.

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem +1

      @@sphereunitedheroes7936 well no 8t ain't as they aren't real so they never looked like anything

    • @yoanmihov5143
      @yoanmihov5143 Před rokem

      @@sphereunitedheroes7936 Drogon was pretty generic tbh compared to what we're getting in HotD.

  • @Lucky13Ravens
    @Lucky13Ravens Před rokem +6

    No part of me believe they are 'breeds'. Dragons are shown to be sentient, and are talked of as choosing their own mates. They are family lines.

    • @helixxia9320
      @helixxia9320 Před 5 měsíci

      it is said that they have specific breeds. not sure if the show universe really designs the dragons after that particular thing from the books or if they just design them how they feel. but since almost all other dragons died like 200 years before house of the dragon then the targaryens would probably just breed together any dragon that is left so the breeds are all just mixed now and the dragons look however

  • @clayharris7740
    @clayharris7740 Před rokem +8

    Hey MindQ can you please do How to Train Your Dragon and Dragons the Nine Realms videos and theories and dragon species and biology like are dragons archosaurs ancient prehistoric creatures from the Mesozoic era that are related to dinosaurs birds pterosaurs and crocodillans

  • @softwareds8262
    @softwareds8262 Před rokem +4

    Waiting for war of dragon

  • @aimeejones9533
    @aimeejones9533 Před rokem +4

    The showrunners confirmed there are three breeds of dragon - is there a clip of this? I keep seeing people say HBO are confirming certain things and can never find them!

    • @canislunaticus
      @canislunaticus Před rokem +1

      The showrunners needs to fact check themselves or go back to learning about breeds/sub species because there are clearly more than 3 breeds, or at the very least hybrids and mixes. Also there's no way Vhagar hatched so many different breeds alone.

  • @a4j6y2l9
    @a4j6y2l9 Před rokem

    0:21 it was aenar targaryen who relocated his house from valyria to dragonstone and they lived there for 6 generations before aegon, rhaenys, and visenya conquered westeros. balerion was the last targaryen dragon to have seen valyria before its collapse, he died at over 200 years old. vhagar and meraxes were both hatched on dragonstone.

  • @kylelee5966
    @kylelee5966 Před rokem +5

    vhagar and meleys seem to be different breeds also

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  • @dreamwarrior_7833
    @dreamwarrior_7833 Před rokem +35

    You're not watching HOTW. C'mon, they're called dragons in the books and series.

    • @Lesistius
      @Lesistius Před rokem +3

      Yes, but this is more like saying it’s a “cat “, sure but there are different breeds and species of cats. Just like there are different types of dragons !

    • @_saul9747
      @_saul9747 Před rokem +3

      You should have known 33 seconds into the video that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He said that Balerion, Meraxes, and Vhagar came with the Targaryens from Valeria but only Balerion did from the 3, Meraxes & Vhagar were hatched at Dragonstone.

    • @FamilyChannel-yv1xv
      @FamilyChannel-yv1xv Před rokem +3

      In the game of thrones world there literally is two differences two wyverns and dragons,dragons breath fire and wyverns have beaks,so to try and say the game of thrones dragons are wyverns is pointless because your wrong,it’s a different world with different rules,plus I think wyverns are extinct in the books

  • @paleoguy2165
    @paleoguy2165 Před rokem +8

    They’re not the same species but they’re the same genus. Just different species

    • @helixxia9320
      @helixxia9320 Před 5 měsíci

      does it say that in the book? have the showrunners said that?

  • @jithinraj1830
    @jithinraj1830 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Meleys is the most underrated dragon

  • @derekbidelman2442
    @derekbidelman2442 Před rokem

    I feel like there are 3 different types for sure,one is a more horse, for riding long distance quickly ,the second is like Ceraxes or Meleys more wolf type and the 3rd kind is Belarion and Vaghar more like a lion.

  • @Trucker0308
    @Trucker0308 Před rokem +3

    Im lost here? They came with 5 dragons and the is rest history so how did these other breeds come about? I need Them to make it make sense

    • @helixxia9320
      @helixxia9320 Před 5 měsíci

      breeds probably are not much of a thing anymore since the first targaryens in westeros had so few left and just likely bred together any they could to get eggs and keep the species alive. the dragons living during the dance are probably mixed between breeds, but we can maybe try and look who is related closest by head shapes. in old valyria they probably kept breeds more apart to have the specific traits kept for each type. but in the current show i think the dragons are just not pure bred breeds anymore

  • @cambuxton6835
    @cambuxton6835 Před rokem +3

    I love dragons. I don’t care what breed they are.

  • @flamenebula1856
    @flamenebula1856 Před rokem

    The theory of dragons being hybrids from wyverns & fire worms seem plausible, tho all dragons were bred for fighting and the older they are the bigger they grow so there are only 2 types,
    Heavy slower "war horse" type :- Drogon, Balarion, Vhagar
    Sleeker nimble, faster type :- cyrax, sunfyre, meleys
    Caraxes although it is said was deformed is probably a throw back to what the first F1 hybrid looked like, as he looks like a worm who has wings and breaths fire

  • @Ned-nw6ge
    @Ned-nw6ge Před rokem +1

    Wyverns being basically dragons with any number of limbs but unable to breathe fire comes from actual dragon mythology. It's funny to me how the ability to breathe fire sets dragons apart from wyverns instead of their number of limbs.

  • @tiaancornelius996
    @tiaancornelius996 Před rokem +4

    What if they just call all of them dragons, though they are different species just like in the original series they called all dogs hounds

    • @obiwahndagobah9543
      @obiwahndagobah9543 Před rokem

      This is in fact an interesting bit of history of the English language. Until the Norman conquest of England, "hound" was the only word for dogs. Like in German were it is "Hund". Dog is an old loanword from medieval Norman French. Because of the Norman aristocracy in England "dog" spread into the common speech and "hound" was only remembered in the countryside, where hunting dogs were used.

  • @Yeaitstemp
    @Yeaitstemp Před rokem

    cant wait till we get dragon battle just vicious

  • @DeB8834
    @DeB8834 Před 24 dny

    Drogon is my fav!!❤4e

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore Před rokem +3

    Don’t get your nerd into my lore guys, they’re dragons in this universe and they have wyverns (F spelling) already in GoT just not on show

  • @Kenneth_James
    @Kenneth_James Před rokem

    If HBO was smart they would have made a show featuring Ancient Valyria. Would have been visually amazing and interesting.

  • @mucahitsimsek4988
    @mucahitsimsek4988 Před rokem +1

    Is the voice actor Stewie from Family Guy?

  • @Dalipoko
    @Dalipoko Před rokem +4

    The last theory is straight outta Tolkien’s universe. Not a jab at GRRM, just sayin.

  • @tipodeincognito5660
    @tipodeincognito5660 Před rokem +11

    I really dont think they have "breeds" at all. Just a lot of individual variety. Daenerys ones were a special case, being sort of "brothers" by the way they were hatched, and involving accidental blood magic and also her gimmick of not burning.

    • @abhisheksuratkar
      @abhisheksuratkar Před rokem +2

      well if dany's 3 dragon eggs were from same litter then makes sense why they are exactly same other than color

  • @jacobbelfegor8761
    @jacobbelfegor8761 Před rokem

    I want see Young Griff Blackfyre Ride cannibal 😍😍

  • @Qbgarden
    @Qbgarden Před rokem +1

    Vhagar is a Khezu shaped dragon

  • @wandersonsalazarsalazar8545

    Hello, please put a subtitle in Spanish or Portuguese. Your channel is very interesting, but I get lost in some English words 😅

  • @mccarlmiranda3643
    @mccarlmiranda3643 Před rokem +2

    MAYBE SMAUG WAS ONE OF THEM

  • @sureshmakwana8709
    @sureshmakwana8709 Před rokem

    0:21 Isn't this info wrong?? Only Balerion was the original dragon who was alive and had seen the Old Valeria and was flown by the grandfather of Aegon. Vhagar and meraxes were born on Dragonstone in Westeros. And Aegon and his sister wives too were born on Dragonstone !

  • @heidischeffler8976
    @heidischeffler8976 Před rokem

    Umm, Aenor Targaryen, Father of Danys the Dreamer is the one who brought 5 dragons with them to Dragonstone, the youngest being the Black dread. It was not Aegon and his sisters.

  • @mikerude5073
    @mikerude5073 Před 11 měsíci

    Don't necessarily put too much sock in what showrunners say. Often they do something for an artistic choice, and then make a comment about it, but have put far less thought into it than the fans. The fans then run wild with theories, but none of it will necessarily play out in anything on the show. I've seen fan arguments going on and on at length, on which dragon type Vhagar is, with fans comparing her skull to a T.Rex, to show she looks nothing like a horse, then others arguing that isn't what horse type means, and so on. Then they will further argue about which breed simply has to be the parent of Danny's dragons, and others will argue that different breeds doesn't mean they can't necessarily produce offspring with other breed characteristics. Putting too much thought into this. The dragon's vary in appearance, but don't try to extrapolate too much from it.

  • @mikearts8835
    @mikearts8835 Před rokem +3

    There might be more breeds of dragons since targaryens had more dragons than only Balerion, Vhagar and Meraxes. Before Aegon they had idk exactly how many but I guess 5-8

  • @ajackass5950
    @ajackass5950 Před rokem +1

    Aegon was absolutely not the first to bring dragons to westeros. that honor goes to Aenar, father of Daynes the dreamer who forsaw the doom. dragon lords were seen visiting westeros and specifically flying over the black water rush when Aenar migrated to dragonstone. likely trying to get Aenar to return his dragons to the freehold as it was illegal for them to live outside of Valyria. then the doom came. a few generations later, Aegon came around and had his dream. Then he and his sisters brought their dragons to war. they were not this first recorded dragon riders in westeros which you literally just stated near the end of the video after previously saying the opposite. do you even know words you are saying?

  • @anneconner1108
    @anneconner1108 Před rokem

    What is all the theories are all correct but just happen in a certain order. Like someone from the shadow lands made them from a wyvern and wyrm , took them to valariya, then the eggs they lay there hatched and people thought that was the beginning of them,
    then lil later some targs did some blood magic to tweak them to make the new creatures (dragons) obey them since they where really into that with all the slaves they owned and what not.
    Only one idk about and can’t get behind is the whole cracked second moon theory. But someone feel free to enlighten me to it. Maybe I just can seen the possibilities in that one.

  • @justsaymayb3
    @justsaymayb3 Před 8 měsíci

    I’m not too sure you’ve read much of these books if at all

  • @RareVBlue
    @RareVBlue Před rokem +3

    Can you imagine being the dragon tamer that got them both to breed together??
    Dragon tamer: eyyyy you need to hit that

  • @Lesistius
    @Lesistius Před rokem +3

    WHYverns not WIIverns

  • @tsr-animations7798
    @tsr-animations7798 Před rokem +7

    In the A Song of Ice and Fire universe, Dragons and Wyverns are closely related but distinctly different species with a common ancestor.
    George's Dragons are more realistic in their body plan, by having 4 limbs and not the stereotypical European 6 limbed body plan.
    Let's assume evolution in this universe happened in parallel with what happened in real life. Where both dragons and wyverns evolved from a quadruped ancestor. One of them evolved the ability to breathe fire, but other didn't.
    Dragons uses quadruped locomotion, much like what bats and pterosaurs do.
    Wyverns in this universe, I'm not sure if they're bipeds or quadrupeds, but it's still possible for them to evolve bidal locomotion and be able to fly, a good irl example are birds, who's distant ancestors are quadrupeds that evolved into bipeds (aka Dinosaurs and later birds).

  • @shunsui5626
    @shunsui5626 Před rokem +1

    lol he used an ark survival dragon as an example hahahaha i love that game

  • @jasonlauritsen5587
    @jasonlauritsen5587 Před rokem

    Really, what happened was that a drake n a fire wurm got drunk and what the result of that night, was dragons.

  • @aixatroche3636
    @aixatroche3636 Před rokem +2

    Couple mistakes vhagar was born on dragon stone maybe the book in India the translation says it was born on valyria when it wasn't it was only balerion born in valyria

  • @PlatipuseKing
    @PlatipuseKing Před rokem

    There were likely many more breeds lost. The dragons that laid the great valyrian roads were most likely a special breed selected for their ability to control fire and work stone. House targaryen were one of the weakest valyrian houses and probably had the lowest tiers of dragons

  • @quagmire8565
    @quagmire8565 Před rokem +4

    Do u guys think that dragons really existed in the real world history 😶😶

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem

      They really do but what do you expect most people on CZcams/social media are thick as shit especially the Americans

  • @binukjose1903
    @binukjose1903 Před rokem +1

    Dude these are fantacy and why do you try to explain it 😂😂😂😂

  • @yonirais4699
    @yonirais4699 Před rokem

    i would say that vhagar is her own kind of subspecies of dragons and syrax is of the same breed as drogon and his brothers

  • @materesalucidomiranda9314

    CARAXES WAS BREED IN MICRORAPTOR

  • @paulnokio1199
    @paulnokio1199 Před rokem +5

    Wyvern =4 legs +2 wings. Dragons 2 legs +2 modified arms/wings cmon People lol.

  • @DinoMan_6
    @DinoMan_6 Před rokem +1

    Budget diff.

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 Před rokem

      Yeah? You work for HBO? Otherwise be quiet

  • @raimundasalazar9416
    @raimundasalazar9416 Před rokem

    Cada a legenda

  • @gaayyak
    @gaayyak Před rokem +1

    If in the books Caraxes was killed by a scorpion in Dorne, why was this not common knowledge as these people know their history so well. The scorpion was introduced as an invention of Qyburn in season 7.

    • @galangadhywibowo6640
      @galangadhywibowo6640 Před rokem +1

      it was meraxes

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem +1

      Also qyburn said the scorpion schematics was from dorne he just built it. Do you even know the show/books

  • @safuan2009
    @safuan2009 Před rokem

    Outch my ears, not earphones friendly bruh…

  • @wyattfinnesgard8195
    @wyattfinnesgard8195 Před rokem +4

    First

  • @ousmanjallow7866
    @ousmanjallow7866 Před rokem

    W

  • @pepeddrobarros2934
    @pepeddrobarros2934 Před rokem +1

    So, they mate? They have sexual breedind? And, why never we see a female with cubs?

  • @davidpuia2564
    @davidpuia2564 Před rokem +4

    Dragon from Dragonheart movie is the best in body structure

  • @Kevynmorgan
    @Kevynmorgan Před 9 měsíci

    Argon didn't bring the dragons

  • @chinmay4331
    @chinmay4331 Před rokem +1

    This video kind of fails because all the dragons we see in HotD are descended from Vhagar. The only dragon descended from Meraxes was Quicksilver and it was killed by Balerion. Balerion, being a male dragon, did not itself lay any clutch of eggs.

  • @greatdragon_nns
    @greatdragon_nns Před rokem

    they are wyverns, not dragons, dragons, have 2 front legs(arms), 2 back legs, and wings, while wyverns only have 2 legs, and winged arms ! don't disrespect my kind !

  • @telfordexotics167
    @telfordexotics167 Před rokem +1

    I wish all the dragons looked the same man, not a fan of this descion, like not identical but the same body plan, the long body plan is dead out man let's be honest

  • @prajnahegde2440
    @prajnahegde2440 Před rokem +1

    Good content but your narration is giving me anxiety

  • @WiseOne93
    @WiseOne93 Před rokem +9

    They more like wyverns than dragons. Draco from Dragon Heart was a dragon that had 4 legs.

    • @Mr.Agateophile.
      @Mr.Agateophile. Před rokem +6

      The rules are different in each fantasy setting. A lot of people base their settings off D&D so the wyvern/dragon thing comes up when it really shouldn't.
      However, if we look to the real world "Dragon" is symply the elglish word for any giant serpintine creature. 2 legs, 4 legs, no legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, no wings All have been hystorically called Dragons, or an ancient form of the word.
      Aditional: the only historical distinction between Dragons and Wyverns (pronounced why-vern btw, not wi-vern) comes from historically modern heraldry, and even there they are refered to as 2 winged Dragons.

    • @WiseOne93
      @WiseOne93 Před rokem

      @@Mr.Agateophile. more like drakes then?

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem

      Neither existed so they are not like either..

  • @neildiamond-personal9855

    This video says something wrong. Caraxes isn't part of a bread. Dragon bodies are all robust and similar. Facial features change but they are mostly similar. Caraxes is malformed and has birth defects. This is shown on how his roar is more of a shriek and his body is disproportionate. He's a more isolated dragon bcuz he is discriminated by other dragons

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 Před rokem +1

    Caraxes & Vhagar don’t look as good as Drogon. I love Drogon’s design and his fire seemed to be explosive as we saw when he destroyed King’s Landing all by himself, stone buildings and the city walls just blew up like dynamite had been used, though it was said Balerion’s fire did the same when people thought they were safe inside their castles as stone doesn’t melt (which it does hence lava/magma). But Caraxes’s long serpent like body just looks wrong where as Vhagar’s hornless head and big flappy bit of skin under her neck were disappointing to see as I wanted to see her look like Drogon but just bigger

    • @canislunaticus
      @canislunaticus Před rokem

      Vhagar's appearance is quite realistic but I miss the fins because those made them look more airborne

  • @JocasToy
    @JocasToy Před rokem +1

    Aena Targaryen leave vlyria freehold bring only 5 Dragon(balerion)… only 1 survive(balerion) 4 dragon death in war with army in essos bcs only targaryen at that time has dragon…so basicly only Balerion born in vlyria… and the rest of dragon hatch in dragon stone

    • @yourallc-unts
      @yourallc-unts Před rokem

      Pick up a dictionary before typing such nonsense

  • @lillypharaoh5945
    @lillypharaoh5945 Před rokem

    Caraxis is a deformed dragon there were no dragons like him

  • @JBlack2991
    @JBlack2991 Před rokem

    Yo I wanted to give this a chance, but you started off with false statements…. Aegon and his sister wives where born on Dragonstone…. Vhagar was as well….

  • @dexterrobinson4065
    @dexterrobinson4065 Před rokem +2

    Sounds like HBO is butchering the original storyline, hmm 🤔

  • @analothor
    @analothor Před 4 měsíci

    Now the real question is does this make logical sense with the dragon family tree in your other video
    If vhagar birthed most of these lines why don't they look like her

  • @BlankEmporium
    @BlankEmporium Před rokem +2

    More clickbait garbage. Nice.

  • @Tarnished-bn5gq
    @Tarnished-bn5gq Před rokem +10

    None of them are an actual dragon (4 legs) tho.

    • @joshuawebber388
      @joshuawebber388 Před rokem +10

      Dragons don't have four legs, if it had 4 legs it would be to heavy to fly

    • @rebellious_red7123
      @rebellious_red7123 Před rokem +6

      Evolutionary a dragon with four legs and wings doesn’t make sense or work, that’s why they went with the wyvern direction because it does make sense from an evolution standpoint

    • @user-hc6nv1cf2r
      @user-hc6nv1cf2r Před rokem +1

      @@joshuawebber388 dragons are already very heavy to ever fly

    • @mrdodo3132
      @mrdodo3132 Před rokem +17

      they are as they breathe fire and wyverns don't. if the author says they are dragons then they are dragons.

    • @silasramsbottom6014
      @silasramsbottom6014 Před rokem +1

      They ar wvryns

  • @agnesdianaracz
    @agnesdianaracz Před rokem +2

    The differenc is their wife escaped and maybe they are now on an other planet. I send the Dragon a kiss on their chest, pray to God that they dont make other dragons. They must learn loyality and eat much more sheeps and other 🐒🦖🦕🐙.

  • @observer950
    @observer950 Před rokem +4

    Narrate properly please

  • @travaughnanderson3958

    This whole video is a nithing burger

  • @wolverine2314
    @wolverine2314 Před rokem +2

    I was disappointed with House of the Dragon show's First 3 Dragons.
    Especially Caraxes is very Awful look.
    and They all are older but smaller than Dani's 3 Dragons.

    • @sunnyboyjr2611
      @sunnyboyjr2611 Před rokem

      So you didn’t pay attention to the show then? If you did you would know the reason why her dragons were bigger

  • @exp1icit
    @exp1icit Před rokem +1

    why bother the show is Garbage

    • @rayyan6401
      @rayyan6401 Před rokem +8

      Give it a chance ffs

    • @exp1icit
      @exp1icit Před rokem

      ​@@rayyan6401 I have already given two chances how many do they get? ffs

    • @MMadesen
      @MMadesen Před rokem +11

      Thats your opinion. Overall rating say otherwise.

    • @Random-qi3vv
      @Random-qi3vv Před rokem +9

      nah, its fking great

    • @rrraynoorrr
      @rrraynoorrr Před rokem +3

      The show is pretty good. Not as good as GoT peak but certainly really good nonetheless.

  • @ramsaysnow9196
    @ramsaysnow9196 Před rokem

    So its obviouse that some people brought wyverns to valirya and mixed them wizh fireworms.

  • @ConernicusRex
    @ConernicusRex Před rokem

    Did legitimately made all this shit up. There are no “subspecies” 😂😂😂😂😂