Is it FAKE?? Winsor & Newton CHINA Watercolor Review
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2019
- The long wait is over! It is now clear! CHINESE Version of Winsor & Newton is NOT Fake! So how does it perform? Please watch my review and share your thoughts below!
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Thank you!!
Now we know that it isn’t fake. Thank you 👍
You're welcome! 😊
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Thank you for the review! I've always been wondering about these Chinese Winsor Newton watercolors, good to know they're not fake, hahaha! They're like...a Chinese cotman to me. But Chinese paints themselves behave differently from Western watercolors.
You're welcome! 😊 Yeah, ive noticed that some Asian paints are thicker in consistency.. So far, mission gold are the best if not holbein.
@@AllanJayQuesada Holbein, because of the Japanese painting style (mostly illustrators love using them) have a lot of convenience pastel colours... I wanted to see how they used it in a live demo because we are so used with using transparent layers, so mixed with white pastel colours are opaque and therefore ruin the transparency.. I'm really curious
@@cazumbandoartmaddy1728 yes, i agree. Another Asian brand, Korean to be precise, is the Shinhan PWC which mixes lots of convenience colors with white. But if you want transparent colors, you can customize your set by buying individual and select tubes with a little higher price than those in sets. 😊
Unfortunately they are counterfeit I bought them. Bothers me how they steal a well known brand name that has worked hard for so many years to put out quality paint. I’m 59 and have been using this brand since I was a child. That’s why they are so cheap. I also got burned on a $13 designer gauche set also counterfeit. I then purchased the real WN set for over $100.
@@jendesign5537 sorry for the delayed response.. It is not actually fake. They did not steal Winsor & Newton's name,. Sure. It was Winsor&Newton themselves who confirmed it wasnt fake. I emailed W&N England personally and they were professional to reply and explain. I showed and read their email here. And ofcourse, they said these are made of a quality not as good as the w&n they promote in England.. ☺️
Yes this set of W&N is not fake, with quite good quality and the price is very comfortable for the students like me 😊
I agree, for the price, it's not bad. :)
For those that are unaware Windsor and Newton Cotman has been manufactured in China for sometime. Winsor and Newton professional is now made in France. I suspect they either use a different binder in these compared to the cotman or they just use a little less pigment so the binder is more prevalent. For the price though, they aren't terrible, my first set of watercolours were Derwent tubes around the same price and they were soooo chalky. Maybe just squeeze the extra binder out and dilute it with water and they mightn't be too bad.
Thanks for sharing the info. and i think you're right that it could be the binder. The price of this is really low that i couldn't compain anymore.haha. but yes, theyre really not that bad considering there are other brands that are way more too expensive but aren't good at all. I never there was derwent tubes! Im intersted on that.
I'm from China and this kind of Winsor Newton watercolor is usually sold for primary school students because it's very cheap in China (it only costs about $2 for a box of 12 colors in the store) I bought it when I was a child and thought it was very difficult to use, so I only use it for graffiti. But then I bought the Winsor Newton Artist Grade and never used it again 😂😂
Wow. It's 2$ there? Much cheaper. Really great for kids learning watercolors.. but ofcourse the professional WN is really good compared to this set i reviewed. 😊
I am a beginner and I’ve only ever got to use watercolor that teachers or parents/guardians give children. These watercolor reviews really helped me find what is the best for me to choose. I opted to buying this and I really like it so far. Thank you for doing these reviews!
We have the same experience, i must say. Growing up with what was then available and trying to maximize it was more of a challenge.. so now, the newer generations are fortunate they have better basis on choosing, not to mention the availability of more choices and reachability of products online. Im glad to be part of the help in the present times. 🙏😊
Thank you for your reviews. I feel relieved after watching your video. Of course the western version of WNT is far more greater quality than the China version. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for this! I just bought a set of Chinese Winsor and Newton oil paint so your video really clarified it. :)
You are welcome po. ☺️ You may also directly ask winsor and newton and show them a photo of the item you bought to reconfirm. ☺️🙏🎨
Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't even know these existed.
Their professional artist watercolors are one of my TOP favorites. They really are very, very nice.
Hahah. I got so curious when I saw this online so I had to try it out myself. I didn't want to judge it right away, just because it's China-made, so I had to contact w&n official website. Yes, their pro line are great. I have some vintage tubes waiting for review and from my initial swatches, they're super good even as vintage stocks. 😌🙏🎨
Your painting is beautiful. I really like it. Helpful comparision and review.
Thank you and yku are very much welcome, too. 😊
This was an excellent and really helpful review. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
Glad it was helpful! :) youre welcome.
Thanks for the review.I've been wondering for too long whether this WNT set us original or not.Keep posting videos!
Thank you Farrah. Sure, i will continue for as long as you guys want me to. 😉🎨🙏🏻
thankyou!!! been've waiting for this for a very long time since last year the first time i saw this being sell on shopee. cant find any satisfying answers on the internet i was so curious about this set.
yet from W&N explanation, it still makes me wonder why are they even bother to produce this set lol.
I believe W&N wants to reach out to Chinese market, because it is a huge market. But also, they need to catch up with the cheap pricing in China, so they had to lower down the standards for the China version. Thank you too for watching! 😊
Looks like I’m late to this party but bought the oils and watercolors in figuring they would if nothing else be fine for making post cards and to practice. The binder is disappointing but you made this paint look good, so bravo! I wouldn’t purchase this paint for a beginner so they won’t become disappointed. The other Winsor & Newton paints I have are student grade and will make up for what these lack. I may purchase the professional grade one day but right now I have enough of several brands that are pro grade so it will be awhile before I get more.
Thanks for the review and demonstration, I already knew these were legitimate by reading the box even if I don’t speak Chinese because I used translation software to understand what it said. What a world we are living in where it’s so easy to read Simplified Chinese characters!
Thank you for sharing your experience and for appreciating my work. I believe these paints are specifically made for the Chinese market that's why it's in Chinese characters and are focused to be very budget friendly in the area. I think the Cotmans are still far more reliable. And much more thr professional grades. So any pro grade you have are good. Enjoy. 😊
Thank you my friend. That was a superb video, and I am very pleased that you showed exactly what we all are looking for. The paints does seem to provide value for the money, and although not exactly comparable, they are good for the purpose for beginners. However, I am unsure if the Chinese sellers should sell this out of the China market.
Hello my friends. I have always been curious myself not just to the authenticity of this line, but to the quality it has, specially cause it carries a reputable name but with a seemingly to-good-to-be-true pricing. So i did what I thought would solve my question. I share information here on CZcams to help artists and also to end wrong connotations and judgement to sets. Hehe. I agree, theyre good for the price and can really work well specially for beginners. Everything that China produces gets out of their territory because of the demand from pricing, so, here it is. Hehe
I just bought china version from shopee but I haven't opened it yet. Glad to know it's not fake! Thank you so much for the info! ❤️
Glad I justified your purchase in a way. hehe. you are very much welcome.
I've seen this watercolor online. Thank God someone reviewed it 😁
Everyone is curious about this line.. dala ba naman kasi ang Name na Winsor and Newton, tapos, ang mura. heheh. But Im glad I reviewed it and was able to confirm from W&N that it is not fake. :)
Great review and i like how you give out alternative recommendations. New subscriber here! Goodluck!🎉
Thank you, Kebe Bern. 🎨😀
Thank you for this! I impulse bought a set few days ago (or quarantine-bought, same thing) and I was curious of what Im getting. Not the best, not the worst, as I suspected. And your accent is delightful, makes my heart happy :) Love from Finland, be safe!
You are very much welcome, Jane. ☺️ Yes, it's not the best nor the worst but definitely not bad for its price (Atleast for the price i got). Hahaha. Excuse my accent. That's how 70% of us here probably sound. 😆
Yes, keep safe and happy painting! 🎨🙏
Watercolors by Allan Jay Quesada - I got the 24-set for just over 15€, so they are pretty much similarly priced as yours; dirt cheap when talking about watercolors! Their transparency really surprised me. If I dont like them, I can always give them to mom (shes just starting), so its a good deal no matter how you look at it. And never apologize for your accent! You get understood perfectly and sound so adorable, makes me smile instantly - awesome thing in times like these :)
@@janemiettinen5176 i agree, we have the same backup purpose incase we don't like it. Hahaha. And this is not bad for a begubber as well. So i hope your mom enjoys it if she uses it. Hahaha. Im happy to have put a smile on your face 'coz of my accent. 😆🙏🎨
been waiting for this video for a long time sir haha
Ayan, nasagot na ang mga tanong. 😊
Thanks for making all these reviews! Was looking at reviews for Mungyo when I saw your channel. And I'm like yeahy finally filipino watercolorist reviews! I binged watch most of your reviews I agree with most of your views. Galing! For mungyo I haven't made my mind yet.. 😂
hehehe. salamat po and welcome to my channel. :) see you around. :)
😄 So basically what W&N is saying is this Chinese set is high on the binder and filler content, and low on pigment content. Lol 😂
yeah, almost. haha
I'm so glad I watched this before buying!!!
Hahahaha. It's not bad for gradeschool kids though. 😊
@@AllanJayQuesada exactly!! That's how I felt about the 72 faber castell pencils from wish, for a cheap student grade there really nice, my children love them :) hope your having a terrific day my friend!! Xoxo
Thanks for clearing that up. It looks maybe under a Cotman grade. That is some very strange binder. I wish they put in burnt quin orange oh pyrrol scarlet and a real Cerulean blue. But yep it's just a dream. Your paintings are really lovely. That burnt umber looked decent. Great challenge.
hello. youre welcome, Jennie. Yes, it's definitely a wish as if these are Cotman levels or lower, it is impossible for them to include a real cerulean blue.. they can only include a hue. hehe. Yes, some color here are decent surprisingly for the price. Thank you for watching, Jennie.
thanks a lot for alll of your reviews! they helped me a lot to choose
Happy to hear that, liz!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Allan. Now we know what these really are.
You're welcome, sir! 😊 🎨
I HAVE ONE OF THESE HUHUHUHU I REAAAALLLYYYY LOVE ITTTT
Nice! 😊 Saan mo po nabili? Shopee rin?
Thanks for the review! ❤️
You're welcome. 😉🎨
Nice review and painting sir! Ano pong brush gamit niyo?
Hello! I’m a bit late to the video but I was genuinely curious about the paints. I do use the Colman and the professional range but I wanted to know about the texture of these before buying it. I believe it’s formulated so differently is because majority of the artist I see, uses “chinese” fude brushes which is commonly made of a mixture of squirrel and goat hair. So I’m guessing it would probably work well with those instead of our usual watercolour brushes. I personally own some of these brushes and wanted to give these a try as they worked well with gansai and sumi type paints (in which a different type of binder is used). Would recommend you check those brushes out! They can be challenging as they are extremely malleable and most often they don’t hold points well. They perform quite similarly to squirrel, but there’s a noticeable difference. It’s extremely rewarding once you get the hang of it.
Would to hear your thoughts on it if you do give these paints a try with their brushes :)
Omg lol I just literally was about to buy this from shopee but then you suddenly uploaded this
Did I change your decision po? Hehe. Didn't fully intend though. Hehe. But yes, sonnet for me is better. 😊
Wow... thank you for this review.. I'm so happy to know it's NOT Fake because my parcel just arrived today and I can't wait to try my fingers on my new Winsor-Newton China 24X10 ml palette.. God bless.
I think it is Reeves Artist range repackaged. We cant get that in Europe anymore so lucky you. What is separating out is honey (the same as Sennellier) and if you squeeze it into pans and leave it to dry it never goes completely hard and is easy to rewet.
Hi Marzi, i know, my reply is months late, but i hope, you are now enjoy your paints, and yes, theyre not fake.
that really has a chance to happen. there almost exactly alike. although I'm not sure if the binder that separates is honey because, first, this is too cheap to contain honey, second it doesn't smell honey, these paints have a distinct smell that is not too got, but something i can tolerate. But you could actually be right too, cause China produces everything at a low price, so it could be honey too. Thank you for sharing you insight.
GREAT for practising and playful test.
Brush stroke, gray scale study etc.
Also when painting on wet on wet, some section we need thick paints that DONT move, so this is ideal for that particular use.
I am piqued about SONNET, although that's twice the cost of China Cotman
yes you are right. these are best for practice. Sonnet can be 2x expensive but theyre great and come in full pans. :)
Sonnet in on my list of upgrade from this colour
Thank you for this video. I thought they were not made by W&N. The *** on the tubes are actually light fast rating. Not bad.
Thank you as well for confirming the * means light fast rating. 😊 🎨
Watercolors by Allan Jay Quesada thank you for your review. Bought a set for sketching. Like you mentioned it’s watery but I’m ok with it given the low pricing. Colours are decent.
I almost order this, thanks!
It's not as bad as I expected, but there are other paints that are better. 🙏
Nice video! Had always wondered abt this and yeah the low price range is really attractive for students like me 🤣 What would you recommend then for beginners/students range as cotman range is still pretty expensive 😅
Actually, this W&N China is not bad at all to start with. This, along with Superior Watercolors, Prang, Pentel Tubes, Camlin and Faber Castell Tubes are some of the reasonably priced paints for good for student use. But since these lines didnt provide pigment codes, lightfastness is out of the criteria. ☺️🎨
Thanks for your review! There's really no one else who's done a proper review on this paint. I've got an unopened box of these China paints (as a gift) and I was wondering what to do with them. One of the comments below is that this paint doesn't do well in pans. For me, that's the deal-breaker (due to the hot climate here) so I'll donate my box. Really good to see your opinions on the cheaper brands that are available in Asia. Another brand I've used are the Mont Marte paints - they also don't do well in pans. You might want to consider doing a review on the China-made 100% cotton watercolour paper - BaoHong Academy watercolour paper (CP/HP/Rough) and BaoHong Artist watercolour paper (CP/HP/Rough). They are the cheapest 100% paper I can find. It would be nice to have your opinion on them. Thanks!
Hi. You're welcome, I myself had been searching for reviews on this paints back when I wasn't doing reviews yet.. so here I now. Hehe. Yes, I've seen in some social media posts a swell issues about this brand drying badly and cracking when put in pans. Mont Marte is also available here but haven't tried it yet. You just gave me the idea. 😀 I've been seeing BaoHong products at online stores and I'm really itching to try it out. Let's see. How about you, have you tried BaoHong?
@@AllanJayQuesada Hi, Yes, I've used BaoHong and I love it. However, as I'm only a beginner painter, I'm not too sure about it and would prefer an expert's opinion, like yourself. I've come across a review on it by someone on CZcams called "share art" but I think you can do a more comprehensive review. Btw you should also try the Camel/Camlin Artist paint from India - cheap but I love it. "Share art" has also done a review on it (although I'm sure you can do a better review). Sorry, I don't intend to be mean to that reviewer.............
Thanks po! I thought fake yung nabili ko 😂 very helpful! God bless po ❤️
youre welcome po. :)
Thanks a lot for sharing, this give info that i need 👍🏻
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much this video was very helpful.
You are welcome Amna. It is my pleasure to be of help. This page is for the main intention to help and share info. Welcome to my channel. Thank you.. ☺️
Your art flatters the inferior paint.thanks for sharing.ive been curious about this.
Oh thank you for the praises, Dianna. 🙏
if u dont liked it sir, nandito lang po ako haha ehem beke nemen HAHAHAHA
Hahahha. Pag nadayo ka rito sa Manila or Makati. Hehe
@@AllanJayQuesada baka ilang years pa sir bago ako mapunta dyan :((
Hi sir, dito ako s makati baka naman haha 😅
@@jeankyliesiapno9059 hahaha. Naku, mga taga Makati, mayayaman yan. Maraming pambili ng paints yan. Ako, taga Las Piñas eh. Namamasukan lang sa makati. Hehe
@@AllanJayQuesada ehem sir ship mo nalang sa bahay namin HAHAHAHAHAH joke
Lol when I saw that 720 pesos for 24pcs and that chinese letter I instantly backed out. Lol but I'm here for the review regardless.
Same with me. Hahaha. I reviewed it to help my curiosity. 😁
Have you done a review of affordable papers? Would love to hear it!
I will soon. :) Thank you.
thanks so much for sharing this video! may i ask if they crack or fall out of half pans when dried?
hmm. sorry, i havent tried putting them on pans, so I cant really tell. 😔 you are welcome though. 🙏
The stars are lightfastness ratings. It is explained on Winsor Newton's Chinese website as well.
Ohh i see. Thank you for sharing this information 🙏
I bought this for my first colours set. The colours are underwhelme especially after it dries up. I'm thinking of upgrading to something more vibrant.
Thank you for your review! I just bought a set of Windsor Newton Cotman watercolors, the 20 tube set. I bought them here in USA as a major art store chain. In plain English, no Chinese characters, the box and the paint tubes read, "Made in China." Are they the same as the ones you are reviewing here? Perhaps they have switched their student grade paint over to Chinese production. I am curious to know what I have here!
What you have is the Cotman line, the student grades if Winsor Newton and it is made in China. This set that i reviewed is the line made specifically for Chinese market. dont worry, it's different from Cotman. hehe. I made a copmparison among the Cotman, the Professional and this China version. I hope you could check it out as well. :)
@@AllanJayQuesada Thank you so much! You are the best!!
Thank you so much!
welcome!! and sorry for the late reply.. i was wondering why some comments were put on spam, which weirdly included this one.. btw, happy painting! :)
Did you end up doing a review of these paints compared to the Cotman and Professional lines of Winsor & Newton paints? I just got these paints and swatched the colors and I like them. I then squeezed some into half pans. The person selling them on eBay told me they were Cotman paints. I did notify the seller to tell him what the company says about them. Thanks for your review!
Hii. Yes, i made a comparison video of the cotman, pro and china version. Im not really sure if the China version is also the cotman.. because upon checking, pigment codes of the colors dont match.. but yes, these paints aren't bad for thr price. 😉 heres the comparison link btw. czcams.com/video/eI0o_6TK2SM/video.html
@@AllanJayQuesada Thank you. I, too, noticed that the pigment codes don't match as I have the Cotman paints too. I will look at your other video. Thanks for getting right back to me. I appreciate it!
@@MaineLiving 😊
I guess I saw fake Winsor & Newton acrylic paints on wish last time I was searching for art supplies just out of curiosity.
It's interesting that they packaged a tube set for the Chinese market, too. I've never seen that before to be honest.
Thank you for the informative video.
I think the star rating on the packaging is the lightfastness rating. I can't read Chinese too, but I saw a listing of the highest lightfastness and some Chinese writing next to it. Maybe there's a viewer that can help.
thank you for sharing your experience and idea about the stars. it's a shame i was only able to reply after months.. anyway, what made you think it was fake? I'm really curious too about fakes and would want to try one and compare.
@@AllanJayQuesada I'm not sure if it's just produced for the asian market or not. There are a lot ot theories and rumours, too. I was talking to a friend about wish a while ago and he said.. it's likely you would buy a fake product there.
I was just browsing and never bought anything on wish but it could be true that there are products out there that have just the branding and a poor quality.
Yes the stars are for lightfastness. I can read Chinese and I did google it to double confirm.
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Thank you so much for your kind words and for always watching the videos. I'm happy to be of help. Yes, will upload more later this year and in the years to come. Have an artsy week ahead. 😇
3:55 konting chinese lang know ko po kuya so i did research ...after doing so it means light fastness and (the squares of course opacity na yun hehehehe LOL)
Ohh so ung ung mga numbers like 11,8, 10, 12, yun po ung lightfastness? Niceee. Thank you for sharing the info. 🙏🎨☺️
@@AllanJayQuesada np po sir
hi po, saan po kayo nakabili ng ceramic/porcelain palette? The answer is highly appreciated po
Hi. got some palettes here, same with the one i use. :) shopee.ph/12-well-Ceramic-Palette-(7-diameter)-i.41980518.3634676572
Wow, this video is amazing, thank you very much! I found it at the shoppe for a price but I'm in a big doubt between that and Kooh i noor and Pentel ... would you know to tell me which is the best?
Hi. Color payoff wise, Koh I noor (Anilinky) is stands out over w&n china and pentel. However, the koh i noor Anilinky is dye based and not Pigment based. Having that said, it is more likely to fade over time. Please watch my review of the koh i noor. 😉
@@AllanJayQuesada Thanks for replying, I was watching your channel now and I'm loving it!
So hindi talaga sya fake... Mas mababa pa sya sa student grade hehe... Oo nga yan minsan nakita kong problema sa pinturang yan...humihiwalay ang binder sa pigment...tapos medyo mapusyaw ito.... Ano kaya ang purpose ng W&N kung bakit ginawan nya ng student grade exclusively para sa mga Instik lang? Eh meron naman silang Cotman hehe ... Doon din naman gawa sa China...
Hahahaha. Tingin ko mahal parin para sa Chinese market ung Cotman eh. Kaya binabaan pa quality nito. Sa pagkakatanda ko, parang parehas to sa Reeves na nasa tubes. Ung separation ng binder. Pero di ko narin halos maalala kasi tagal na nun college pa ata ako. Di ko na ginamit ever. Hanapin ko nga yon. Hehe.
Curious lang ako kung magkapareho ang pigments ng Reeves at ng W&N China dahil magkapareho ang color selections nila.
They can be the same because of many similarities including tube type, but i cant really confirm if they use the same Pigments since it was only W&N China who was able to provide pigment details.
Thanks boss! I've been looking for cheap but pigmented watercolor tubes for days. I think this might be the best choice? Coz I've seen reviews of Mont Marte being not much pigmented and needs much lesser water when used. Other brands around 500 to 600 are too much for my budget.
The plus point that i gave for this set is for the pigment codes they provided. There are actually more sets that are richer in color at a cheaper price (if you do not prioritize lightfastness) like the O.Win and Superior watercolors. 🎨😊
@@AllanJayQuesada thanks po for your suggestions!
Sir where do u buy ur arches watercolor paper po and is there any brand thats of almost the same quality buy a lot cheaper? Tia
Hi! I buy my Arches Roll in Artbar. Art nebula also sells this per sheet. :) some artists say the cotton of fabriano is also good. Though i havent tried mine yet. Aside from arches, other cotton papers that ive tried are the Arto, khadi, and lamp light. Arto was not so special. Khadi is very textured and can be inconsistent since it's handmade. Lam light from japan is also good but not close to arches. 😊
This is in the same packaging and tubes as Reeves Artist range, except the lids are black. They have stopped making Reeves Artists for the European market, we just have the student range now. :( So I think the W&N China is Reeves Artist repackaged and the lightfast ratings will be the same . The runny goo is honey which stops it drying out in the tube. If you leave your squeezed out paint blobs to dry they will have a honey shine on them - the same as Sennellier.
It's sad the artist grade Reeves are now gone, and we only see affordable grades made in China.. yes id agree that the binders obviously separate and that they should be mixed with paints to keep them moist.. however, with the pricing, Im not very if this is honey or just gum arabic. :)
hipo, im torn kung ano bibilhin ko. ano mas maganda and better superior watercolor or yang w&n (china)??
Hmmm. Hirap nga.. Hehe. Parehas silang gawa sa China.. Parang malapit din nmn ang performance. Kung mas lamang sayo ung complete package at portability, sa superior ka na. Pero if gusto mo ng mas limited colors pero mas maraming laman, sa w&n china ka na.. Pero kung may extra ka pang konti, dagdagan mo nlng ng 200, sa Sonnet ka nalang po. 😊
@@AllanJayQuesada THANK U PO 😊
Thanks for the review! Based on your experience, which one is the best deal? In terms of affordability and quality (let's say something closest to the W&N Prof line)...
Hello. I have atleast 60 brands in hand, and I've honestly not used used them well and often. I currently use Daniel Smith professionally, i have no complaints. If i had to choose a brand that lies between quality and cost, I'd pick White Nights. It is not the cheapest artist grade paints but it is the the cheapest i could recommend for professional use.
@@AllanJayQuesada Salamat po :D
@@AllanJayQuesada BTW, I stumbled upon good reviews on Kuretake watercolour... I am still new in your channel and am not sure if you have reviewed that already.
Thank you so much now i know that is not fake 🥰
You're welcome. 🥰🎨
I just got a set of Winsor & Newton Cotman watercolors. Says made in China too, but there are no Chinese characters or labels at all. The back of the box has English, and different European language descriptions. Set of 20 x 5ml. Have you tried this before? Hoping this might be better than the one on the video....
Hii. Cotmans are also made in China but are not specifically meant for Chinese market, so no Chinese characters are placed in the packaging. I have reviewed a cotman earlier but it's a pan set. I believe in some ways, the Cotmans are better than the China Version. 😊
Hi there! Is it advisable to pour the paints into individual pans? Thank you in advance!
Hello. I have not tried yet. But i believe ive seen on Facebook some who've tried and it cracked.. may it needs some honey or glycerin.
saw that on shoppe and the seller said yes its authentic from Chinese manufacturers.
Yes, the seller was righy. 😊
Thanks sir ❤
Thanks too. 😊
Thanks for this. Made me finally decide to not buy them. They remind me of Reeves so much.
Yes, they are very much alike.. and you're welcome, I'm happy to have helped.😊🎨
Intersting comment because w&n used to make Reeves paint. I had an old tube that said reeves manufactured by winsor & newton. They might be the same as Reeves was not as good as cotman.
They do behave slightly differently though, I put them in pans to let them dry, they crack badly, the normal cotman paints I got don’t seem to behave this way
I guess that's because of the type of extenders that might have been added to match the price? This is the reason why i see some artists had to add a drop or two of glycerin or honey to keep these paings moist. 😊
This is interesting, thank you. A friend gave me a set of W&N made in China but they are not the same as yours. There is no Chinese writing or pigment numbers and the tubes are 12ml. A couple of colours different from yours, i.e. Orange Naranja and Violet. Do you think my tubes are fake? I'm just curious.
Winsor & Newton only has 3 lines. The China Version, The Cotmans and the Professional. The ones that are made in China are the China Version and Cotmans. Cotmans are only available in 8ml and 21ml tubes. It might be that yours is a new product or variant of the China Version or it might be an imitation. Can you show us how it looks like? The link where you got them? You may also email Winsor & Newton. They usually reply in few days. 😊
@@AllanJayQuesada Thanks for replying. My friend doesn't remember where she got them a few years ago. There are 11 tubes (she lost one). They are not Cotman. How can I show you a photo of them as I can't post a photo here?
Hi! Can you help me what should i choose: pepeo studio aquaelle or this W&N china, please?
*sorry about my bad English :(*
Hello. 1st, dont be sorry about your English. It's both foreign to us. What matters is that we can communicate. ☺️ I prefer W&N China for they gave Pigment code and lightfastness rating, and they're cheap. But Pebeo's performance is very close to W&N China. ☺️
@@AllanJayQuesada thank you very much!
whoa, i was going to write them and ask the same thing! thank you for asking them and doing this video, thank you so much ❤️ i was surprised tbh that they are not fake, because the quality is a tarnish for w&n name - i mean, aliexpress is full of these paints and people not from China are buying "cheap" w&n and get disappointed in quality. (well, not professionals, of course, we do understand that such price is impossible to get pro quality paints, but still leaves me wondering about Chinese brand Paul Rubens, if it might be better because it costs more than the other ones from China, but still less than western brands.)
i honestly thought they are fake 😂 your video helped me a lot.
Hahahaha. I'm happy to be of help. I've been wondering like you before, So i asked. I was really interested and I believe any company from china or not can't just use a certain brand name and sell it in a huge online market without getting penalized, if fake.. so there.. regarding Paul Rubens, I reviewed the 24half pans set. It's the last video I uploaded so you can easily check it out. I think it's better than the w&n china, much more the Paul Rubens tubes! ☺️
Ano po ba magandang watercolor for a beginner like meeee?
Hello po. sorry ngayon ko Lang nakita Ito.. but for beginners, sa budget niyo po ang main consideration.. Kung may budget na around 1.5k I suggest puwede eka kumuha nung Daniel Smith essentials set, 6colors na Tig 5ml, narevirw ko na Rin siya. Puwede ring ung white nights na 12 colors full pan, or ung Cotman 12 colors or Van Gogh na 12 colors.. Kung less than 1k ang budget, not bad na ung sonnet na 16 colors, 600plus sa shopee. Nareview ko na Rin po siya.. pag below 500, go for orange nalang po. Puwede ka Rin hjmanap sa shopee mg Mga artist na nagbebenta ng halfpans set mg artist grade paints like me. 😁
Hey this is your subscriber from India which watercolour I buy
Winsor and newton China Vs camlin
go for Camlin. you have a high quality but affordable home made paints there in Camlin :)
Second 😆
In painting, do you first allow it to dry before adding details?
most of the time, yes. :)
Sir my sakura koi palette is chalky as well :( hindi sya nagmimix well with water as in nakikita ko yung powder separating from the water
That's what i hate about the sakura koi, in Sketchbox specifically. Para mabuhangin na ewan. Colors are vibrant pa naman.
Bat sakin di naman chalky, like some other watercolors, it looks and feels a little bit rough but not chalky and definitely mixes well with water.
No, i do not find it chalky naman. My issue is the texture of the other colors.
I got a 24 colour set many years ago but they had such a bad smell that I had to trow them away :(
The colours were not bad at all, just every time I opened the palette were I kept the the very strong smell hit me in face 😅
ooh. that was awful. mine didnt smell strong naman.. maybe your nose is more sensitive or there's something terribly wrong in the stock that you got?
@@AllanJayQuesada probably bad luck with a bad stock... My nose is not that sensitive 🤷🏻♀️
*Simply da best*
Thank you! 😊
You deserve more subs! Are you interested on joining a drawing prompt this August?
@@dreicornelio22 thanks. How is that drawing prompt" po?
Hi, para lng siyang INKTOBER pero this August so parang DRAWGUST. Tapos ung theme is Buwan ng Wika.
@@dreicornelio22 ok lang naman. Kasi kung daily, parang di ko ata po kaya sir. Haha
Revisé los originales y también dicen Made in China.
The Cotman are made in China. But the W&N Professional is I believe made in France.
Who is better.. this W&N or Paul Rubens? Please, help me to make the right choose!! 😱😅😖
Paul Rubens. 😉🎨
@@AllanJayQuesada thanks 💖
Hi kuya. Did u try to buy winsor & newton acrylic paints frm shopee ph din po? Can i video suggest po review of the acrylic too🤗✋💗🙏 thankuuuu in advance po
meron akong Sakura na Acrylic and yun palang acrylic ko. hehe. sige po, tignan natin kung magccross din ako to acrylics in time. :)
@@AllanJayQuesada nakabsub nako sayo kuya. Hehe thanks po
Hello Bro , Please Recommend me between Winsor Newton chinese version vs Reeeves vs Pebeo studio vs himi watercolor vs Renaissance watercolor ?
Your Video are Great and I am keep watching bro .
(In my country WN cotman 12 color is
nearly 60 US dollar !)
Winsor and Newton China provided the pigment codes so technically, that's a plus. I'm not happy with Reeves. Pls watch my reeves review. Pebeo Studio is good for the price. Nice colors too. Himi Watercolors have several types. Inhave reviewed the Himi Solid watercolors. It's good. But check my review of himi watercolors if we're talking about the same paints. There is also himi in tubes. I havent reviwed the tubes yet. Renaissance paints are i think same level as Reeves (Not to be mistaken with the artist grade paints 'Renesans' from Poland).
Which country are you from? If your budget is around less than 20 US dollar, you should be looking at Sonnet or Superior watercolors.
@@AllanJayQuesada
Thanks for explaining bro ...
I am from Myanmar : Messed up with coup and everything becomes Expensive !
I will look for Sonnet or Superior
Thank you ..
I came across Daniel Smiths on Chinese website called AliExpress (selling for less than in US) and have been wondering if they are real? Allan did you have a chance to test DS from Chinese sellers? Thank you.
Hii. Less than a dollar for Daniel Smith? 🙃 That's really too good to be true, wether it be a half pan, or a 5ml tube. Or maybe, it's a mini pan? Do you have the link? I haven't tried any DS paints outside the authorized resellers, so this is really interesting.
Hi Allan, here's the link
a.aliexpress.com/_mPZ50ot
This is an option of buying pans filled out of tubes by the Chinese seller. I guess there's really no way of telling if product is really DS, since there is no kind of labels. I like the option of 24/2ml colors for $54.
Tubes with DS labels are comparable in prices to what they sell for in US. Thanks.
I just learnt watercolour and I like Windsor newton brand Watercolour 我的快乐 哈哈😊😅
Are the winsor and newton china watercolour better than pretty excellent watercolour?
The edge of wn China is the mentioning of the pigment code. But the paints of pretty are really good too.
before u go on i gotta say - those r horrid wc! lol yes we gott a set to see what's up - at least we got them for free - i would think more of the chinese artists than w&n does apparently.
How is this compared to Faber Castel's please?
The faber castel in pans or in tubes?ni have reviews too of those sets. Definitely, I'm not a fan of the faber castel in red plastic case. Bad texture. The faber castel in tubes is not vad but its more for kids or starters. Pls watch my review of it too. These China version of WN, is almost just like any other china made tube sets, but its edge is that theyre recognized by WN as genuine. For the price its not bad, but still, there are still other sets more worthy of money. 😌
I think the swatches are a bit uneven, the yellows and reds seem very diluted compared to the rest of the colors. I have a 24 color set and the yellows and reds swatch out a little more pigmented. I struggle with layering the colors but I guess it teaches me to use more water in my mixtures. Most of the blues and earth tones are a bit goopy but the rest of them are fine. My biggest gripe is that in wet-on-wet and gradated washes dry patchy. They make unusually harsh lines from the paint to the water applied to the paper. I also found they dry really fast and it takes getting used to.
I tried to make them cover evenly. I guess it depends on how the binder has settled either at the tip or bottom of the tube. 😊
Hello po, between prang and this wc po ano po kaya ang mas maganda? I only have simballion wc po and pag natutuyo sya nawawala ung parang pagka vibrant nya. I really want to buy prang pero mahirap maghanap online hehe. So im thinking kung kukunin ko na ba to or maghihintay ako until quarantine ends? Hehe pls help po huhu
Hi. I have a detaield review of Prang watercolors and i compared it with many watercolor sets including the W&N China. Please watch it and let's talk there po. Here's the link:
czcams.com/video/9NVN3tVrEHs/video.html
@@AllanJayQuesada okay po thank u very much poo!!
QUESTION: sInce it’s meant for Chinese painters; perhaps they are better formulated for Xuan paper? I might get some just to try out on Xuan vs Marie’s Chinese WC.
From what I understand, WN meantioned it's meant for "Chinese Market", i believe means offered at cheaper price as thr Chinese industry offers low cost products of almost anything. It may be formulated for Xuan paper, can be. But i am not sure too as it wasn't
mentioned. Pls let us know once youve tried both. 🙏
There’s a newly opened art store near our home, and has this in their shelf! I thought it was fake, 20dollars lang kasi 😂 so I didn’t buy it 😬
No, not fake. hehhe. but not super good din. and yung 20sd price niya jan is mahal na ha, 3x na dito. hehehe. get something else nalang. :)
I threw them out. They had brown goo in the tubes. The yellow looked liked dijon mustard. I wouldnt give them to my five yr old grandson to use.
That is obviously a binder-pigment separation issue. They may still experience this in other tubes from other brands, especially if they've been store for some time. Nothing to worry, though. Just mix them using a toothpick or needle before squeezing out the paints. This should mix the binder and pigment back together.
For your swatch paper, what paper do you use?
Hi! I only use Arches 185g in my review swatches here to be consistent. 😊
@@AllanJayQuesada oohhh! I see! Thanks for replying. Love your videos, glad to see a local Filipino watercolorist doing reviews as you have! More power to you! ❤️
@@amarylliscinth happy to be helpful po. 😊 I really love watercolors and collecting them is so much fun so Im maximizing the hobby by sharing my thoughts and experience. Thank you! 😊
before u go on i gotta say - those r horrid wc! lol yes we got a set to see what's up - at least we got them for free (along with a set of their acrylics) - i would think more of the chinese artists than w&n does apparently. wilt kinda liked them till they turned to stone but i expected that, my real w&n do the same so i don't buy anymore of them - i actually prefer the cottmans better than the professional but don't use them much either. lol thanks for the info about the chinese version.
So you tried puttting thsese chinese versions in half pans? Ive been hearing from denise of in liquid color that w&n doesnt advise putting their tube paints to half pans for some reason they didnt specify.. Hmm. I myself am not a fan of w&n pro and cotman. Theyre not bad ofcourse, but as compared to DS, Sennelier, davinci and Mgraham, those 4 are just way way better for me.
@@AllanJayQuesada yep i put all my tubes in pans cuz i prefer to paint from pans but also prefer to buy tubes. :D while the professional w&n tubes suck when put in pans they come nowhere close to how bad the chinese version are, once they dried they were in many pieces. I've heard from denise & others about w&n's warning about putting the tubes in pans but also heard that the formula being diff was their excuse which seems a no brainer to me - it would have to be. yeah cottman r not the best student grade, i thought sennelier la petite were better but now i recommend white nights professional rather than any student paint, much better deal & i just love them. funny that u live in a humid climate yet 2 of ur fav paints r honey based. lol i don't balme ya tho - those r 2 of my favs also. ds r ok but kinda dry here :( but i'll live with that for all those lovely colors. i haven't tried davinci, maybe will have to correct that. :) have u tried qor, holbien or schmincke, if so how did u find those? i haven't tried the 2nd two but the qor i find pretty awesome, first i bought the high chroma set then was sold, they r so trippy how they spread across the wet paper. :D
Anyone know which brushes are used here?
Hello Heidi. I used Isabey travel brush here. 😉
Hello po. Which is better po, Superior watercolor or the W&N china po?
Di ko po ba napakita un sa comparison portion..? Medyo mas reliable and info and prod nitong WN China eh. So dito ako.
Hello.
I got the w&n chinese watercolour, what brand watercoloir do you recommend me after I get good at it ?
Thank you ^^
My top favorite artist grade would always be Daniel Smith.. but you may also take Winsor&Newton Professional tubes and be able to personally compare the China Version and the Artist Grade. 🎨😉
@@AllanJayQuesada thanks! Where did you get the professional ones?
@@Junior.198 i got mine from different places, some in Japan, some from US at Jerry's. are you from PH? There are Winsor & Newton Pro at some select National Bookstores and ArtBar. There are also stocks at Fully Booked BGC and Fully Booked Glorietta. iFEx also has stocks at Shopee.
@Watercolors by Allan Jay Quesada Are they online? And I am from Brazil :P
@@Junior.198 oh, ola! Hmm. Yes, you can checkout online stores like Jerrysartarama or jackson's Art. I buy some stuff there and they ship worldwide. 🎨
I'm a complete beginner starting on painting just for leisure, hobby and journal art. So I don't wanna be spending bucks on Prof water colour just to waste it away as I don't have talent for that. So resorting to budget friendly items are a way to go for me.
That is totally fine for as long as you enjoy, and the material serves its purpose. Happy painting. 😊
Let me know if you want any translation help, I would like to help you.
Oh, that's so kind of you to offer help. 😊 The next time Im gonna review an item from China with no English translation, I will contact you. Please send me through private message your email sir. 😊 Have a great day. 😊 🎨
You're welcome