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  • @NizzahonMagic
    @NizzahonMagic Před 8 lety +211

    A small part of my soul dies every time I have to pay 1 for Rhystic Study.

    • @bazebl1022
      @bazebl1022 Před 8 lety

      Lol!!!

    • @JaxMerrick
      @JaxMerrick Před 7 lety +11

      I play Nekusar with Mindcrank, never cared about paying 1.

    • @MRTriggerhappy7Arif
      @MRTriggerhappy7Arif Před 7 lety +1

      How about doubled with Copy Enchantment?

    • @davizbuxaderas9396
      @davizbuxaderas9396 Před 7 lety

      Nizzahon Magic for me only teeg, and shard just have a planeswalker deck with tons of evasion, but no creatures. Other than that you can play commander, you just need tamiyo field researcher, doubling season, and the chain veil. you just play tamyio draw 3 omniscience8 then have ugin in your hand -10 draw 7 cards get other tamyio,8 play old tamyio destroy new tamyio ultimate play nicol bolas blow up ugin cast ugin -10 draw 7 gain 7 hope to get a teferi cast teferi untap chain veil activate chain veil activate nicol bolas to destroy itself cast nicol bolas destroy ugin cast ugin -10 draw 7 play gain seven, then plus 1 teferi if you do not have enough artifacts also get tezzeret to untap 2 artifacts like a mana crypt and a sol ring infinetly destroy nicol bolas ultimate nicol bolas for game, fairly consistent If you are playing for fun with friends, if not just play arcum dagson, thhat man does not care...

    • @StickgeneralArmy
      @StickgeneralArmy Před 7 lety +2

      One time I played a game where the competitive player at the table played rhystic study and I was playing group hug so I convinced the entire table to never pay for rhystic study. He ended up drawing about 40 cards off of it

  • @TheManaSource
    @TheManaSource  Před 8 lety +323

    Torpor Orb is 2 mana, not 3. I'm clearly drunk. Also that card is stupid.

    • @YoungLiam74
      @YoungLiam74 Před 8 lety +2

      +TheManaSource I never have and never will pay for rhystic study :).

    • @akroma5370
      @akroma5370 Před 8 lety

      +TheManaSource Hey Wedge, loved this video :D basically a thing i was looking for.

    • @johnathangrishaw3096
      @johnathangrishaw3096 Před 8 lety +1

      iona

    • @g-unithalstensgard5610
      @g-unithalstensgard5610 Před 8 lety

      +Rip HD ironic as how you have teemo as your id pic

    • @wixmagic14
      @wixmagic14 Před 8 lety +1

      +TheManaSource I play a Brago, King Eternal Commander deck, and Torpor Orb is the bane of my existence

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai Před 8 lety +118

    in one 4 player commander game i was playing, an opponent time streched, and i wild ricochetd it onto myself for 4 extra turns

  • @RhysticStudies
    @RhysticStudies Před 8 lety +141

    this could have easily just been a 10 minute video of you reading every card with the word *Sliver* on it.

    • @TheManaSource
      @TheManaSource  Před 8 lety +24

      +TheMagicManSam Oh...oh...JUST YOU WAIT SAM! JUST...YOU...WAIT!

    • @OGwold
      @OGwold Před 8 lety +3

      +TheMagicManSam Do I dare to tell you I have a sliver deck with winter orb and a few cards listed here*? And would I be safe if I tell you that I'm also considering putting in another two cards from this video?

    • @421sagetravis
      @421sagetravis Před 8 lety

      +Pipetruls do people actually play commander with you twice with the same deck or do they look at your Commander shake hands then admit defeat after your pod is put together once they see your Commander?

    • @OGwold
      @OGwold Před 8 lety

      The people I play with actually like to play with me, even tho I got a "nasty, unfun deck". Mainly because my deck is crafted to deal with almost any threat, except aggro. I guess seeing someone sneak around death at instant speed is awesome, even if it is your opponent.

    • @l.h.5901
      @l.h.5901 Před 8 lety

      I also run a Overlord deck.
      How do you deal with sac effects?
      I win most of the times, but when I lose its because a black deck letting me sac some ceatures every turn, which is deadly in sliver decks, cause you need them to go off.

  • @brianwise5850
    @brianwise5850 Před 8 lety +121

    you missed Iona. and yes this is a series I want.

    • @TalanWH
      @TalanWH Před 8 lety +3

      Funny thing is Torpor Orb, another card on this list doesn't affect Iona ;p

    • @phyrexiannewborn7104
      @phyrexiannewborn7104 Před 8 lety +1

      +Brian Wise
      Iona should be banned immediately.

    • @brianwise5850
      @brianwise5850 Před 8 lety

      +Phyrexian Newborn I don't disagree. But it probably won't because it only effects mono colored decks badly. in duel edh yeah definitely ban her. But in vs. where 4 players will most likely not be all playing the same color let alone mono color, she is just a hassle.

    • @ethanfordford6621
      @ethanfordford6621 Před 8 lety +1

      All my friends play black so its fun when someone brings a iona

    • @jaredreast6210
      @jaredreast6210 Před 8 lety

      If people are playing mono colour, then yes it will only affect one person, but that one player loses instantly. If people are playing two or three colour, there will be overlap. In neither scenario is it fair.

  • @slick_rickgaming1102
    @slick_rickgaming1102 Před 8 lety +16

    Rhystic study grinds my gears. People just say "just pay the 1", easier said than done.

    • @seryntheon8195
      @seryntheon8195 Před 8 lety

      +Jeremy McNair
      ikr

    • @WarsWorth
      @WarsWorth Před 8 lety

      no it's really easily done. just pay the one. wait a turn. don't give your opponents 20 free cards in a turn. don't. just pay the 1

    • @slick_rickgaming1102
      @slick_rickgaming1102 Před 8 lety

      +WarsWorth so either slow your deck down and play at a handicap or let you opponent draw a card?

    • @WarsWorth
      @WarsWorth Před 8 lety +1

      +Jeremy McNair yes. slow your deck down. Rhystic Study should read "all spells cost 1 more to play."

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 Před 8 lety +1

      The last time I watched somebody not pay the one with Rhystic Study, it lead to Cyc Rift Overload + Armageddon + Boros Charm.
      That was definitely a fun game of Magic.

  • @awizardwithwords994
    @awizardwithwords994 Před 2 lety +2

    7:04 Had me laughing so hard. "Have you ever taken 30 damage on turn 6 or earlier? So you are familiar with Sorin Markov."

  • @MortonGoldthwait
    @MortonGoldthwait Před 7 lety +10

    Not a card per say, but one of the most annoying things in Commander is when you are the only one at the table packing significant amounts of board control. Annoying cards are a problem when you are constantly relying on yourself to remove them.

    • @Bluecrimson217
      @Bluecrimson217 Před 6 lety +1

      As a Daxos the Returned player I fully sympathize.

    • @treyconover4107
      @treyconover4107 Před 6 lety +1

      Half the decks I build end up control because of this.

    • @shikaku_
      @shikaku_ Před 2 lety

      Do you mean stax pieces?

  • @TheElectricalRunneR
    @TheElectricalRunneR Před 8 lety +5

    As a newer player I would love this as a series. It allows me to see a ton of cards and combos I haven't heard of.

  • @chronojack7547
    @chronojack7547 Před 8 lety +73

    Wedge. we need more Worst Cards ever. Hate the Game. need more Won't Cards Ever

    • @chronojack7547
      @chronojack7547 Před 8 lety +1

      Worst* but still Wedge. Worst Cards Ever or riot

    • @jonasengle6233
      @jonasengle6233 Před 8 lety +8

      i think won't cards ever is pretty accurate

    • @jonteman9328
      @jonteman9328 Před 8 lety +1

      +Jonas Candy We also need Want cards ever, luck cards ever, fuck you cards ever, fuck me cards ever and also ever cards ever! all them lists! make it happen Wedge!

    • @bazebl1022
      @bazebl1022 Před 8 lety +1

      Just change the channel to worst cards ever already

  • @hendor2885
    @hendor2885 Před 8 lety +43

    no winter orb? really?

    • @TheManaSource
      @TheManaSource  Před 8 lety +36

      Episode 2 will exist ;)

    • @drybrawler
      @drybrawler Před 7 lety +1

      TheManaSource don't forget stasis for a worse winter orb

    • @johnseifert6927
      @johnseifert6927 Před 7 lety +1

      Came here looking for Winter Orb.

    • @777Gothboy
      @777Gothboy Před 7 lety +1

      lol he puts sol ring but not orb of winter smdh. pitiful

    • @TheRovingPunster
      @TheRovingPunster Před 7 lety +1

      Don't forget winter orb: the commander.

  • @seryntheon8195
    @seryntheon8195 Před 8 lety +132

    You know WHAT s c r e w it I'm buying all of these and making a wubrg deck from this list and the others to come.
    Sanity.
    I care not for it.

    • @THE_BATLORD
      @THE_BATLORD Před 8 lety +1

      +Smiff get conflux

    • @seryntheon8195
      @seryntheon8195 Před 8 lety

      +THE BATLORD
      Yes.

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety

      +Smiff Most of these cards are green or white and have inevitably made their way into my Captain Sisay deck

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety

      Smiff ask your buddy if he's got a problem with someone casting Armageddon and Planar Cleansing in the same turn with Avacyn out. Or better yet, myojin of life's web to flash in ulamog, kozilek, akroma, iona, vorinclex, elesh norn (and wild pair trigger fetching Avacyn). please. Sisay is the memes.

    • @seryntheon8195
      @seryntheon8195 Před 8 lety

      Kevin Weaver
      he would reply the same.
      i have a few of those.

  • @sambarlow7213
    @sambarlow7213 Před 8 lety +27

    Will we be getting a SOI Commander Spotlight?

  • @TWilko234
    @TWilko234 Před 8 lety +35

    no iona, killer of fun and friendships?

    • @russellee5216
      @russellee5216 Před 8 lety +9

      +TWilko234 Gotta save something for the next installation.

    • @Berkaelzar
      @Berkaelzar Před 8 lety

      +TWilko234 Thanks, that was the card I was thinking off, but coulnd't remember the name. Had a friend that used to drop her with Kaalia... good thing he fucked up his deck by removing big ass demons and angels and replacing them with massive removals XD

    • @ghostofkrows
      @ghostofkrows Před 8 lety +1

      +TWilko234 Lol, I know everyone's pain because I play Kaalia of the Vast. Yeah people hate me when I turn 3 lock.

    • @Humstuck
      @Humstuck Před 8 lety +1

      +TWilko234 Just play blue and copy that Iona and laugh at the mono white guy playing Iona who can't do anything now because he said "white" when casting Iona to protect it from most common exile/removal effects at the current table.

    • @Tsunamiis
      @Tsunamiis Před 8 lety

      I mean i understand that monocolored decks are a thing, however at the point of the game that I've ever put Iona in the color i'm naming was going to win the next turn anyway. Most of the time when a specific player is whining at me because they got the shaft I kill it and watch the game end to the "Elves/Wizards/Wanderer" player, literally at the next available priority swap.

  • @_boisvert163
    @_boisvert163 Před 8 lety

    The link to your outtro song is broken, but i really liked the song. anyone know what it is?

  • @travelsonic
    @travelsonic Před 8 lety

    Awesome video as always, Wedge. Something about these types of vids, as downbeat as they may be, that I really enjoy.

  • @ThomasB-zw3sg
    @ThomasB-zw3sg Před 8 lety +10

    Rule of law actually speeds up the game. It prevents 10 minute during turns of your opponents.

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety

      +Thomas Bodifee Except when they sift through planeswalker abilities, activated abilities of artifacts/creatures. But those players would be casting spells on that of that so I guess you're still right. Just in some cases it means turns are "not quite as long as they previously would have been"

    • @liamhector5009
      @liamhector5009 Před 8 lety

      +Kevin Weaver but it also tends to stop some infinite and near infinite loops (expecially the recast loops)
      personally not a fan, but rule of law/laboratory has its uses in a game .... just depends on the player and the meta, if its a good thing or a annoying one.

    • @MaZe741
      @MaZe741 Před 5 lety

      "it turns one 10 minute turn into 10 turns" is not speeding things up

  • @raimundkeller6115
    @raimundkeller6115 Před 8 lety +10

    i personally hate to play against "Iona, Shield of Emeria" and "Void Winnower"

    • @BobNinjaCat
      @BobNinjaCat Před 6 lety

      Raimund Keller Void Winnower can be dealt with and isn't hard to get around. Emrakuul and Ulamog, however...

    • @knightfromlordran
      @knightfromlordran Před 5 lety

      with void winnower, oddly, you cant even

  • @thesvengallideck
    @thesvengallideck Před 8 lety

    This is fantastic love it. id love to see more.
    Also wedge what's your thoughts on a "Gisa and Gerald" commander deck

  • @VBCTrinityGames
    @VBCTrinityGames Před 8 lety +30

    Iona is fun...oh wait, I meant the other thing...not fun.

    • @_reenzane
      @_reenzane Před 8 lety

      +VBC Trinity No Idea why he didn't mention it. This card is so boring to fight.

    • @tcot-wi8wf
      @tcot-wi8wf Před 8 lety

      yeah Iona pisses me off to be glad Iona is legal and painters servant is banned imagine this play you cast Kaalia of the vast equip lightning greaves then you cast painters servant and pick a color then you attack with Kaalia and put Iona into play choosing the color you just turned everything

    • @VBCTrinityGames
      @VBCTrinityGames Před 8 lety

      *****
      I agree that she's either totally underwhelming or completely fun-killing. If I was playing a mono colored deck and I knew my opponent was playing Iona at all - I probably just wouldn't play against them haha (I know you can just play colorless removal such as Perilous Vault and Oblivion Stone - still not fun though). Playing unfun decks in a casual setting is a good way to make your friends never want to play with you again - I learned this the hard way back in the day playing Pox haha *Note - I think Iona is totally cool in competitive formats though.

    • @tyhatfield7156
      @tyhatfield7156 Před 6 lety

      VBC Trinity Games That’s the thing about a play that card too. And then I play way worse cards and even he even imagined like defense of the heart. Tooth and nail. My guy get with my old 12/12 infect, then my creature that gives all my characters horsemanship!

  • @sammcguire3798
    @sammcguire3798 Před 7 lety +6

    When I see a basic land, I just get so TILTED!!!!

  • @hadroth
    @hadroth Před 8 lety +34

    winter orb.... that card sucks in every format!

    • @MTGEDH
      @MTGEDH Před 8 lety +4

      or the stick version... Hokori, Dust Drinker

    • @kennethacuna9996
      @kennethacuna9996 Před 8 lety +1

      or the enchantment version... Rising Waters

    • @chasestetler
      @chasestetler Před 8 lety

      +kenneth acuna I love and hate that card. In Narset, it's incredible. Against it, kill me.

    • @bryancooper1244
      @bryancooper1244 Před 8 lety

      +Matthew Rothery or the big brother version, Stasis

    • @EloquentandRarity
      @EloquentandRarity Před 8 lety

      +Bryan Cooper Stasis requires a lot of setup :(

  • @wbetz75
    @wbetz75 Před 8 lety +1

    Wedge, Keep up the good work. I like this series can we have more of this type from you?

  • @tmcdon
    @tmcdon Před 8 lety

    LOVE this video! More videos on Commander!
    More vids in general, please.

  • @SylveonSilver
    @SylveonSilver Před 8 lety +4

    How about the staple blue cyclonic rift that either everyone bluffs having or has just at the right moment every game?

    • @afk5112
      @afk5112 Před 4 lety

      U ever seen Zur's Weierding?

  • @alienplatypus7712
    @alienplatypus7712 Před 8 lety +5

    Clearly every single card that Zedruu runs was overlooked.

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 8 lety

      +Alien Platypus probably because most of them aren't the cards as much as the combos. Also these rage cards are clearly from the perspective of a control commander.

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa Před 8 lety

      +Atmapalazzo Except Rhystic Study. And perhaps Rule of Law and friend (depending on whether you define pillowfort as control).

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 8 lety

      +Lance Groeneveld except that both those cards were mentioned :V

    • @Arvensa
      @Arvensa Před 8 lety

      Atmapalazzo You said... from perspective of a control player. He hated on Rhistic study, a control player magnet. He hated on Rule of Law, a pillowfort card. Wedge is in fact a control/pillowfort player, but he wasn't singing their praises.

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před 8 lety

      oh, you meant that. I thought you were talking about the first part of my comment.

  • @ghostofthesun9097
    @ghostofthesun9097 Před 7 lety +1

    thanks for telling me what cards to have in a deck! great advice!

  • @markquaker8743
    @markquaker8743 Před 7 lety

    This is a rather amusing video, I wouldnt be opposed to seeing more of them.

  • @josephlucero3365
    @josephlucero3365 Před 8 lety +8

    is it bad if im running most of these already

    • @g-unithalstensgard5610
      @g-unithalstensgard5610 Před 8 lety

      it means you're playing the game efficiently. Nicely, on the other hand, is not your forte

    • @ZoidsNut
      @ZoidsNut Před 8 lety

      +Joseph Lucero yes. =p

    • @Humstuck
      @Humstuck Před 8 lety

      +Joseph Lucero It probably means you play group plays hard like mine :)

    • @Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God
      @Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God Před 8 lety

      +Joseph Lucero You are not alone, in my 12 edh decks, I play all those or similar cards, except 3 of this list. Sol ring, Rustic study and Vorinclex for me are staples in EDH.

    • @bazebl1022
      @bazebl1022 Před 8 lety

      You must have Zero friends

  • @stephenwatson3136
    @stephenwatson3136 Před 7 lety +3

    im suprised zur didnt make the list hes arguably the best commander in the format

  • @adam-the-dev
    @adam-the-dev Před 8 lety

    Honestly I'm new to the format and videos like these help me NOT lose the new friends I just made at my LGS - so thank you, I appreciate it. There were cards in here where I went "Oh wow I could really do good with that" as you basically said "This is so annoying and you'll probably lose friends"... thanks

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball Před 8 lety

    And here I thought you'd mention something that counters the first spell played every turn when you mentioned Arcane Laboratory/Rule of law.
    I also was expecting to see something like Naked Singularity show up but then I realized with Cumulative Upkeep 3 it's not so bad.
    Speaking of Time Stretch, I don't play that. I do however run Both Beacon of Tomorrows and Eye of the storm in the same deck...
    Like in one game I played
    Me: Play Eye of the storm
    Opponent: Army of the damned
    Next player : Sometthing and 13 2/2 zombie Tokens
    Next player Something Something and 13 2/2 zombie tokens
    Me: Play beacon, Something Something and 13 2/2's
    Shuffle Beacon
    Seathing song, Beacon, Something Something and 13 2/2's
    Mana Geyser, Seathing Song, Beacon Something Something and another 13 2/2's
    Epic Experiment for 32, Mana Geyser, Seathing Song, Beacon, Something Something and 13 more 2/2's
    And so on and so on until turn is finished
    Takes Second turn
    ...
    ...
    Draws beacon of tomorrows
    Table Gives up.

  • @PissedOffRedneck1
    @PissedOffRedneck1 Před 7 lety +14

    way better than desolater, he complains too much

  • @MrZoichi
    @MrZoichi Před 8 lety +10

    Cyclonic Rift.
    You all know why.

    • @ZenIsStupid
      @ZenIsStupid Před 8 lety +1

      Best control card ever printed!

    • @bazebl1022
      @bazebl1022 Před 8 lety

      +MrZoichi the tempo gain though...

    • @MrCouchbleh
      @MrCouchbleh Před 8 lety

      By the time somebody casts that in my games, it just reads 'tap everybody's lands for a turn'

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt Před 8 lety +3

      +BOBONATOR2 I usually see it read "You win the game"

  • @DarkMidnyt88
    @DarkMidnyt88 Před 7 lety

    i had a jokulhaups, but when i dug out my magic cards that had been in storage for a few years to get back in game it and a few of my best went missing

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 Před 7 lety

    On a related note to Arcane Laboratory, Mana Maze is another fun one to trip up your opponents while not being *quite* as oppressive. On the plus side, it does basically say "blue spells can not be countered" I'll admit to running it in one of my heavy control deck. Along with Arcane Laboratory.... and Eidolon of Rhetoric....

  • @jasonkikel8038
    @jasonkikel8038 Před 8 lety +4

    Needs more Humility

  • @kennethacuna9996
    @kennethacuna9996 Před 8 lety +4

    Where's
    Havoc Festival
    Painful Quandary
    Spreading Plague

    • @pervavita
      @pervavita Před 8 lety

      +kenneth acuna that's for the second video in the series :)

    • @kennethacuna9996
      @kennethacuna9996 Před 8 lety +1

      also another card i hate in EDH is sensei's top. im sure every one knows how much time that adds into a game when its played.

    • @liamhector5009
      @liamhector5009 Před 8 lety

      +kenneth acuna i agree on sensei's top (annoys me to know end, and its always the player with the longest turn that tend to play it ... more then doubling the turn length) the others arnt really a big deal, they tend to have little impact on games.
      I even removed painful quandary from my deck from how little impact it had on games (torpor orb is fun, and tends to maintain order/keep a player from combo-ing off)

    • @TheComicBookJoker
      @TheComicBookJoker Před 7 lety

      Liam Hector Painful Quandary is an auto-include for a few EDH builds. One example is Phage, the Untouchable. Use Torpor Orb (or one of a few other methods) to prevent getting killed by her ETB effect, then when she eventually dies, because NO ONE wants to risk getting touched by Phage, Painful Quandary turns her into immediate player removal.

  • @thelineman2727
    @thelineman2727 Před 7 lety

    Added half of these to my Blue Green White Planeswalker commander deck thanks. :)

  • @dredgepilot21
    @dredgepilot21 Před 8 lety

    love torpor orb, thx phage commander also took time stretch out of my exp kraj deck recently

  • @TheMrVengeance
    @TheMrVengeance Před 8 lety +5

    I don't get why people have a problem with Sol Ring. It's just about the most vanilla mana rock available, it's about 50 cents and in every pre-con so it's not expensive or hard to get, and it's colourless so it fits in every deck that'd want to play it.
    I don't get what's so bad about Sol Ring when you have things like Chromatic Lantern, Worn Powerstone and Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, Coalition Relic, the Talismans etc. etc. etc.

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety +2

      +TheMrVengeance The thing is there are deck that have a reason not to play Chromatic Lantern, Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, etc. There's close to no reason not to play Sol Ring in just about every conceivable deck. It's ramp with no downside. Mana generators that produce more than they cost will always be an asset.
      It's as good turn 1 as it is turn 50 as you play it for literally less than free. Meanwhile there's times I have 4 or 5 mana and dont want to play Thran Dynamo or Gilded Lotus

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance Před 8 lety

      Kevin Weaver - Yeah, but that's why I don't get why people would hate / be annoyed by the card. It costs nothing (in money and mana), it's useful for every deck / colour.
      It's obvious why cards like Contamination and Torpor Orb and Winter Orb and Iona, are cards that people hate in Commander.
      They stop you from actually playing the game. Or they make it last an eternity by not untapping or only playing 1 spell a turn.
      I don't see why a super vanilla universal ramp card would be in that same list of cards people hate.

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety

      TheMrVengeance because again, you can make cases to not run torpor orb. You can't really make a case to not run sol ring. So it essentially takes your deckbuilding element (one of the most fun parts of edh) and says, "no, you don't need 99 cards, you have sol ring. You need 98." But wait, there's command tower, now you only need 97. You're in green? Ok, cultivate, kodamas reach, green suns zenith. Now it's 94. You're in blue? Cyclonic rift, cryptic command, mystic confluence. Now you only need 91 cards! 10% of your deck is built already!

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance Před 8 lety

      Kevin Weaver - Exactly, so why hate specifically Sol Ring, when there are a dozen "must-include" cards?

    • @kevinweaver2445
      @kevinweaver2445 Před 8 lety

      +TheMrVengeance because it's the "every deck must include this card" card. along with command tower, it automatically takes away 2 slots from your deck no matter what strategy because your hindering yourself simply by not playing them.

  • @gallyyum5407
    @gallyyum5407 Před 8 lety +5

    Cyclonic Rift pisses me off

    • @Krajcik1964
      @Krajcik1964 Před 6 lety

      Cycolinc Rift, if played right, should read "Win the game."

  • @sephyrias883
    @sephyrias883 Před 6 lety

    I'd also include some of those "oops I win" cards, that you just draw lategame, play and win with immediately.
    (like Tooth and Nail, Paradox Engine, etc.)

  • @mountainfantasticfabriccha2248

    wooooooooow, thanks for doin this, i didnt know alot of these, Rhystic study is going in my Sphinx's Tutelage deck >:)

  • @TheOnlyBootlegger
    @TheOnlyBootlegger Před 6 lety

    Akroan Horse: 0/4 Artifact creature for 4
    Defender
    When Akroan Horse enters the battlefield, target player gains control of it. At the beginning of the contoller's upkeep, all opponents get a 1/1 white warrior token.
    SUPER fun when you're playing 4-way commander and you get stuck with it

  • @mrpandabites
    @mrpandabites Před 8 lety

    I love this! This video also has some of the best writing on the channel. So funny! New series please!

  • @sashaanne703
    @sashaanne703 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for reminding me to put Rhystic Study in my Commander decks!

  • @Volvary
    @Volvary Před 8 lety

    When you talked about extra turns, I thought of a card we all hate. When we don't play that deck. I'm talking about Time Sieve. With Thopter Foundry, Sword of the Meek AND Time Sieve all costing 2, you can fetch any of the three you are missing with a transmute. Assemble them all and you got yourself an infinite combo.

  • @guyank6138
    @guyank6138 Před 7 lety

    Awesome video Wedge!

  • @THENOCK1366
    @THENOCK1366 Před 8 lety

    Tangle Wire and Null Rod. Plus the combination of strip mine, crucible of worlds, and any card that lets you play more than one land a turn.

  • @PokemonTrainer87
    @PokemonTrainer87 Před 8 lety

    I would LOVE to see a series on annoying cards in MTG :D

  • @dorping_Wolf
    @dorping_Wolf Před 8 lety

    4:27 i just think of Jace, Unraveler of Secrets. especially because Erayo, Soratami Ascendant is banned.
    and Magister Sphinx (7:37) is a fun card.... (played in a Sydri, Galvanic Genius deck) together with Master Transmuter + an unblocked attack.
    what do you think about Grave Pact and similar cards? (sacrifice deck with Balthor the Defiled commander)

  • @maileesaeya3614
    @maileesaeya3614 Před 8 lety

    Cyclonic Rift. Instant-speed one-way total boardwipe. The EDH regulars at my LGS have an informal house rule adding it to the banlist. We generally let anyone who brought one unknowingly simply use it as Disperse.

  • @Zronium
    @Zronium Před 8 lety

    I have a bad habit of receiving maximum rage in my play group. Reason being, I play Arbiter, featuring cards like Iona, Stripmine/wasteland+sun titan, and every Ghostly prison effect in the colours. Having played the deck for a while now, my top 3 plays that lead to the most salt were as follows. Turn 1 sol ring, signet.Turn 2 Arbiter, Blind Obedience. Turn 3 Elspeth Suns champion, Luminarch ascension. My opponents conceded. Or how about strip mine, sun titan strip mine, lightning greaves sun titan attack strip mine. I've done that a few times. But my favourite play i made was after i got milled a bunch, Emeria Sheppard Fetch, get back standstill to my hand, Fetch for hallowed fountain, get back Solemn, get plains, get back suntitan, get back fetch land, landfall get back lightning greaves, fetch plains, get back Elspeth, play greaves on titan, attack get back O-ring, play standstill, pass. Arbiter is a fun deck. for me.

  • @jacobeget7176
    @jacobeget7176 Před 8 lety

    more of this series please!

  • @griffincarson3517
    @griffincarson3517 Před 8 lety

    Idk if this is the right place to put this, but for one of your "fun" EDH deck techs, would you kindly do Thelon of Havenwood's Fungus tribal?
    It's full of Fun Guy's (fungi-s? get it?) and would be awesome to see you do.

  • @StickgeneralArmy
    @StickgeneralArmy Před 7 lety

    In one game, I was pheldagriff and someone played thus tic study. I then brokered a treaty that says that no one may ever pay for rhystic study. He drew 50 cards off it.

  • @AVAL2775
    @AVAL2775 Před 8 lety

    my group tends to focus me when I play my dune brood lands mater deck
    I need to add aura shards to the deck

  • @simplygamers9224
    @simplygamers9224 Před 8 lety

    Thank you for the recommendations, my play group will love these

  • @WizardLogic
    @WizardLogic Před 8 lety

    Empress Galina, Knowledge Pool, Smokestack, Dead Eye Navigator, Lodestone Golem, Trinisphere, Burgeoning, Consecrated Sphinx, Sphinx's Tutelage, aaaaand Standstill.
    Commander is both the most wonderful and most detrimental format of all time. Coming from someone who plays Jace, Vryn's Prodigy as their commander, and goes infinite on turn taking.

  • @kylenikkila5198
    @kylenikkila5198 Před 7 lety

    i forget the name but the demon that says during each opponents end phase they choose 2 creatures they control the sacrifice the rest.

  • @XyphileousLF
    @XyphileousLF Před 6 lety

    Time stretch and entwine are fun as hell to play, my blue denial deck runs it along with arcanis the omnipotent and jace the mind bender just to be the douchiest blue deck i am capable of making. I dont run it against people for fear of being tried for breaking the rules of the geneva convention.

  • @perfectdoll4112
    @perfectdoll4112 Před 6 lety

    Torpor Orb was just re-made in Ixalan as a creature and you liked it XD

  • @onemoregames9889
    @onemoregames9889 Před 8 lety

    +TheManaSource hay i would like to see a series where u focus on one commander and tell us some great cards that could go into the deck

  • @simonnoble4789
    @simonnoble4789 Před 8 lety

    Can you please make an Omnath, locus of rage EDH deck tech? I run a decent one but I'd like to see your take on it

  • @mieblock4856
    @mieblock4856 Před 7 lety

    lol when i was only a couple months new to magic i played two headed giant for the first against someone who would always mulligan till they found serra ascendant. then do you know what they would do? equip with spirit loop and start gaining 12 life a turn.

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 Před 7 lety

    You know, I saw you mention Aura Shards, but the creature version (Harmonic Sliver) is run in a LOT more decks that I've seen.

  • @THE_BATLORD
    @THE_BATLORD Před 8 lety +1

    jokulhaps is a great game-ender. i love to resolve it with darksteel forge out so that I get to play magic and everyone else gets to suck it

  • @titheproven954
    @titheproven954 Před 8 lety

    MORE OF THIS SERIES PLEASE!

  • @tiaomaster135
    @tiaomaster135 Před 8 lety

    did anyone tell you that the intro and outro links arent working anymore??

  • @omgitsgodzilla101
    @omgitsgodzilla101 Před 8 lety

    I completely agree! Of course i'm not exactly innocent, I used to have an esper artifact edh deck with Sen Triplets. I'd use Sphinx Summoner to tutor Magister Sphinx to my hand on turn five and then tap down the Master Transmuter I played on turn four to bounce Sphinx Summoner and put down the Magister. On turn five their life total would be 10, I'd have a 5/5 flying threat that they would have to deal with immediately and i'd have recurring artifact creature tutors straight to the battlefield for five mana each turn. Plus Mycosynth Lattice, Darksteel Forge and Nevinyrral's Disk combo is just straight up stupid if you when you have Master Transmuter to bounce a one drop Soul Ring in exchange for a nine drop Darksteel Forge. I felt so bad for pulling off some of my combos that i almost wanted to apologize..

  • @peniasd
    @peniasd Před 8 lety

    This could be a series/guide not to lose your friends. I'm diggin' it.

  • @Spckeck
    @Spckeck Před 7 lety

    Wait, I missed something. What was the rules change with contamination and ophiomancer?

  • @steckner
    @steckner Před 8 lety

    I feel "Sensei's Divining Top" needs a spot here. Like Sol Ring, it's a highly-powerful card that you *need* to run in every single deck you ever make. Unlike Sol Ring, some people waste a lot of time with it (looking at the cards for five minutes and putting them back in the same order). Also, it's self-protecting, so unless you waste a Krosan Grip, it's not going away. A last point against it is price; as of right now it's like $30, which is pretty expensive for a must-have.
    "Goblin Sharpshooter" should be here too. It totally hoses token decks, as well as many decks that rely on weak creatures with strong abilities.
    Oh, also, put "Stasis" on the list. That card ruins lives.

  • @thomasrobertson3190
    @thomasrobertson3190 Před 8 lety

    So we are getting more of these I hope? Sol Ring is such a pain.

  • @dylanwight5764
    @dylanwight5764 Před 6 lety

    T1: Forest, Dorkish Elf, go
    T2: Plains, Selvala (from command zone), go
    T3: Forest, Dorkish Elf/Better Dorkish Elf, go
    T3.5: Swords/Path/Condemn, tap Selvala
    T4: Armageddon, thanks for playing

  • @Late_Night_Mega
    @Late_Night_Mega Před 7 lety

    Surprised Warp World wasn't mentioned, or the Great Aurora. Winter Orb I'd have to imagine is annoying too, I considered throwing one in my Colorless commander deck, but with Ulamog as my commander, I didn't want to do something like that to make me even more of a target.

  • @HailBacon
    @HailBacon Před 7 lety

    I'd like to add , that tree of perdition is a rather devastating card in commander.
    I dropped an opponent to 13 , and wound up with a 0/61 blocker. It has the ability to be a massive cannon.

  • @nobleartist2022
    @nobleartist2022 Před 6 lety

    How would you get 30 life on turn 1 for a 6/6 Serra Ascendant?

  • @albertdanquah4597
    @albertdanquah4597 Před 8 lety

    Thanks wedge!
    I'm gonna go play esper and run all of these!

  • @treygregory5360
    @treygregory5360 Před 7 lety

    I had a friend who was annihilating his opponent. And his opponent only had one life left and was relieved that the end was near, however, my friend was done having his fun and used Sorin to make his life back to 10.

  • @SampleChan
    @SampleChan Před 7 lety

    "Why have one turn when for 10 mana you can have two..." or 22 as I managed running Nelson with reverberate on my isochron (which was activated using sol ring mana), then copied with a flashbacked increasing vengeance. I then recurred it a few times to make sure the game was mine. I had no one on my table 2 turns in CD

  • @chulumpthebigmoneywizard851

    I'm ok with sol ring, because I know that sometimes I'll be the one with it turn one and sometimes I won't.
    Also, seer's vision is "fun," because it basically reads "the next your opponent doesn't play a bomb the turn they draw it, they discard it."

  • @ElGHTZEROTWO
    @ElGHTZEROTWO Před 8 lety

    I have a casual crypt rats/lifeline/death pits of wrath deck and I play both rule of law and ensnaring bridge so they can only play one spell and can't attack me as I will keep my hand down this all gives me time to set up the combo where I've gained over 1,000 life in a single turn

  • @adammohammed2185
    @adammohammed2185 Před 7 lety

    more of this series plz.

  • @johannesottosson5218
    @johannesottosson5218 Před 8 lety

    Attacked with Narset, Enlightened Master revealing Time Stretch and Narset Transcendent.............. From this point on Time Stretch was banned in our playing group, it was so much fun while it lasted!

  • @r34p3r1992
    @r34p3r1992 Před 8 lety

    iona, shield. void winnower, eldrazi annihlator titans, rhystic study, kalitas traitor of geth, narset enlighten master ... there are many more

  • @Eric_DJ
    @Eric_DJ Před 7 lety

    This should be a series !!!!

  • @esands36
    @esands36 Před 7 lety

    Despite the one colourless cumulative upkeep, I run Mystic Remora in my Simic EDH. It can really slow down some decks.

  • @missingno.5597
    @missingno.5597 Před 8 lety

    Whoa I had no idea about these cards. Now that I do, I'll be sure to play them! Orzhov player here (:

  • @DeviltoGeorgia34
    @DeviltoGeorgia34 Před 7 lety

    Contaminate - A guy played it turn 4 when I was playing Kynaios & Tiro....I scooped.
    Aura Shards - Meh, not too concerned.
    Torpor Orb - Don't care too much unless I'm playing my Dromar Esper ETB deck.
    Sol Ring - Pretty much everyone has it, so it's not rage inducing to me.
    Serra Ascendant - I'm that guy, I have one in my Tariel deck. Sorry not sorry.
    Linvala - Yes, annoying.
    Gaddock - F**k!!!!
    Rule of Law/Arcane Lab - Never seen them before, but look stupid as crap to play against.
    Rhystic Study - Ugh...
    Armageddon/Jokulhaups - Do you want me to literally punch you in the face?!?
    Back to Basics - Never encountered it.
    Blood Moon - Yeah, I'm targeting you.
    Vorinclex - I hereby waste my turn to rid ourselves of it, so you don't have to. I'm helping, don't kill me.
    Sorin Markov - Oh....k.... :(
    Magister Sphinx - Running it. "Play that spell...I dare you...I'll flicker my sphinx."
    Time Stretch - If you don't win with this card, you're playing it wrong.
    Honorable Mention: Expropriate. Essentially reads "Choose one: Cast Time Walk & Blatant Thievery without paying their mana costs, or Take all the turns and if you don't win, you are bad."

  • @akuulikesmagic5259
    @akuulikesmagic5259 Před 7 lety

    also another thing about rhystic study, its super annoying when the person witch it constantly asks: "are you going to pay the extra 1 for that?"

  • @rogerhurtubise3258
    @rogerhurtubise3258 Před 8 lety

    i play aura shards in my enchantress deck cuz you know some enchanted evenings :) plus no love for stranglehold?

  • @Jay-rb5pg
    @Jay-rb5pg Před 6 lety

    Just bought all these for my Atraxa walkers deck just for the tilt factor. Thanks wedge my group will probably kill me next week.

  • @asrafel13
    @asrafel13 Před 8 lety

    as a Krenko player, Darksteel Mutation on said Mob Boss has blown out my competitiveness on multiple occasions.

  • @Tsunamiis
    @Tsunamiis Před 8 lety

    I agree with the Solring choice. it usually comes with a 2 mana rock ontop of it also. The T1 Solring guy is usually the guy who wins.

  • @PandaJNiccals
    @PandaJNiccals Před 7 lety

    a number of people I play with have been removing sol rings from our decks. because we got tired of seeing it in literally EVERY deck ever

  • @jakesmith9204
    @jakesmith9204 Před 8 lety

    thanks for the rule of law enchantment I need that in my zur deck

    • @afk5112
      @afk5112 Před 4 lety

      There's Arcane laboratory too

  • @media1manager836
    @media1manager836 Před 7 lety

    do u guys have dag nabbit spell or boom n hower hank hill spell? bobby

  • @Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God

    Mesmeric Orb, Winter Orb, Stasis, Energy Flux, Aura Flux, Notion Thief, Sire of Insanity, Iona, Shield of Emeria, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur and Cyclonic Rift