Did You Catch This?!? Stacy Chapin, E's Mom, Reveals Shocking Detail!
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I believe that house should never been demolished until after the courts
Always been weird about the ownership of that house??
The issue will never go away. Removing the home before trial seems strange to me. Wouldn't the jury need to see the layout, in person?
It was costing too much in security from the University, and the courts could not figure out a trial date, so they said enough and took it down.
@@theresaohman7187and acoustics. Like just exactly what was heard or could be heard and the distances and dynamics of the house.
@Pllm30 Their excuses were poor on the reasoning.
I've never heard of LE having any authority over victim remains. This case is so bizarre & off the wall.
I still can’t believe the house was taken down before the court case if that’s not red flags 🚩 then I don’t what is!!!
99.9% of all crime scenes are released prior to the case being heard in court. The house was a biohazard. You know...blood.
The body removal remains one of the biggest mysteries in this case
Agreed!
Maybe they weren’t ALL INSIDE and if they were, that was staged. Just a thought from my mind
Most always in some states never remove til darkness, should be on body cam of cops on outer graud?? Chain of custody to coroner's office
How do we even know they are passed away. They can be still alive
@jackebushable I thought this too
Why would the parents agree to cremation when there's a criminal investigation going on and they might need to go back and exhume the bodies for additional information or evidence? Very strange. Wouldn't the parents want the crime solved by keeping the bodies and keeping the house standing until the case is over.
I knew Ethan was cremated back when it happened, but I only in the past few months found out Kaley and Mattie were cremated together. I was hoping Xana would not be cremated. They did not return any of these kids to their parents because of the degree of wounds?
I really don't trust anyone or anything until I can verify such any more, keeping one eye open.
Something feels odd to me that all 4 were cremated. So when did the 2nd autopsy occur, and on who? Were their nails verified for DNA off of the perpetrator before autopsy?¿
I also believe the house should not have been demolished before the trial.
The Chapin's had a second autopsy performed.
Was odd when Frye emptied their belongings from the house in a U-Haul
yes and Many find it strange he drove it personally
AND It had Pennsylvania written on the Side of the Uhaul
@@joann5075yes Joann!!
Once the crime scene has been processed you have to remove the belongings as the house belongs to the landlord, and you must move once rent stops being paid whether living or dead. The belongings can't just sit there.
@@Pllm30it was a crime scene. Parkland High School in South Florida where 17 people died, has stayed up for 7 years I think. It was a crime scene. It’s just now coming down.
First responders said they weren’t allowed in the house just the police
okay, let me say this, the first people, were the police but acting as first responding to the scene
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Because first responders are not allowed to work on the dead. It's not only grotesque but a waste of supplies. Check out the Jahi McMath story where the girl was braindead, and her mother wanted the hospital to keep working on her to bring her back to life.
I heard president Green was the first one in
I assume they obviously they were gone they don’t need their assistance. I assume it was so bad too maybe they were saving them from seeing it
And didn’t they tear the house down in the dark? I find that super sus.
This is all bullsh*t!
When they started, it was dark.
The mere fact that these people cremated the 4 victims without consent from the family is beyond words.
WHAT??? No way!! I’ve not heard that!
Yes the G family said that’s what happened.
Interview I think it was On the Chronicles of Olivia, when Kaylee’s mom and dad mention that they didn’t even have any say about Kaylee’s body. Just one day poof an earn showed up
I would sue those irresponsible people to no end.
Its strange how SG made decisions for MM. In an interview the Gs said they didn't know her parents which I thought was odd because they talked so much about the 2 girls growing up together. I also think its strange that the Gs never really mention E and X. They do once in a while but its in passing. Lime the T-shirts they made, it said justice for had KG n M M n did not include the other two.
If you remember in the beginning. LE mentioned that they will seal a lot of this case. Cuz the hole town would be in danger. Allegedly..
*whole not hole
They said they were trying to find out if the person were targeted or the house.
Oops 😬 Did I do That ( Spell a word wrong) TY for your comment. )
@@dwtwo533 And that's a scary thing
@@Manuel-so7mz wow you can spell...
I've missed that interview! Thanks for including it. My heart breaks for their parents. I can't imagine.
Thanks for listening
Thank you for all you do to keep us informed.
Much Love to you Linda!~
Brand new listener! the replay is perfect no issues. You are a breath of fresh air!
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He was Jewish & they don't do cremation. Also NO open casket FYI 💜
I thought so, too. I looked up his obituary, and it states that they had a memorial service for him at the funeral home, but there was no interment mentioned.
Ethan is jewish ?
Religious practices whether Christian, Jewish, Pagan, Islamic, etc are VERY serious about preference when it comes to handling the body. Some demand burial (like Christians because they believe in the resurrection in the future, for example) or the Pagans who demand the Pyre (Cremation) to set the spirit of the body free. Jews and Muslims demand to wash and prepare the body with rituals before burial or cremation, etc. The state doesn't get to decide disposal without consent of the Family, no matter the manner of death or condition of the corpse, PERIOD. FULL STOP 🛑.
@@FastNCurious88I know the Roman Catholic Church does not allow cremation, except in very extreme circumstances and the ashes in urn must be given a proper Catholic burial.
@@user-di4zx2gu3i exactly. One of many examples of just *how seriously* these considerations are taken.
Good to see you on video Momma D. Love the background and set-up!
Thank you! 🤗
It was Jack D. He found out that Kaylee slept with someone else. He went into a rage
I've often wondered why the split. Had KG possibly had an attraction to someone new.
Very reckless of you to accuse someone of a quadruple murder
No, it wasn't him. Drug Cartel hit.
He's definitely involved somehow
Stacking 4 people would mess up the autopsy...
Exactly!
Physics!
There's no way four, floppy bodies would make it down a single stair without toppling over.
in all honesty, depending on when the "bodies were brought out", they wouldn't be "floppy", rather, the opposite and imo, impossible to "stack" any where, but def not a gurney
I worked at a funeral home. For respect of the Family, and to be discreet, there were walls put up outdoors no tent like they do for crime scenes.
Each body was placed very carefully on a gurney and put into a refrigerated vehicle then brought to xxxx state for autopsy. I wish everyone would understand that bodies would not be put in a brand new dumpster… good lord.
Now the truth is, in the summer plus the winter we have seniors there is an increase of death. Way of life is hard and seniors do not have caregivers or family to care for them. Death occurs.
Funeral homes seriously have bodies in individual bags or boxes and yes they are stacked in coolers. The bodies do not touch. When u are cremated u are put in a large box then put in the incinerator. I have seen the process, the bones are ground up , so determining on your size and weight depends on how much ashes u will have.
So many funeral homes are being sued in many states , body parts taken. Or the DNA taken of the ashes and the family finds out that when they thought they were taking home mom or dad the funeral home lost the cremains. Look up Colorado. So many funeral homes out to make $$$ off of families in a time of need to be misled . Penrose, Co. the owners are going to prison.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, I learned a great deal from you just now.
There was an asst professor of psychology , that killed a his student from Moscow Idaho, 13 years earlier!!!! 2011, she was 22 yrs old!
True!
No blood walls when the house got tore down
The whole thing is so sketchy! I wonder about the whole thing !
Those ashes, as far as we, and for that matter, the family knows, those could be cremains from the local Humane Society. If that could be proven, I pray they are in a very, very deep Witness Protection Plan🙏.
Speaking of losing all the hard evidence with the destruction of the house and the cremation of the victims, we also IN MY OPINION, almost lost the patsy.
Once you've chosen a patsy, what do you do?
That's right, you make sure he cannot say anything.
You would do this normally by killing them. That way there's really no defending him. You could say whatever you wanted and there would not be a defense lawyer and Defendant contesting the claims. So, that would be the preferred method. No trial also means no need for evidence. The public will just have to settle for the fact that we found the right guy.
So Moscow found a suitable patsy, and through non-official channels they said to Pullman PD, they needed a bit of wet work in Pullman.
Pullman PD -- "Who's the target?"
Moscow PD -- "Initials BK, for Brian Koehberger, works at WSU, lives in an apartment off of Brandy Way, 30ish, white male, keeps late hours, moved here near April from Pennsylvania, has social problems, and drives or has access to a light colored Hyunda Elantra.
Pullman PD -- "Got it"
Some Pullman Cop -- "Hey, I know that guy, we responded to a PTSD call with him. He lives in an apartment off of Brandy way and works at WSU".
Pullman PD -- *BANG*
And Brent Kopacka is dead for no reason, no 911 call, and tremendous cover-up. Because, Bryan was already driving in his car with his Dad to Pennsylvania, or for whatever reason, Pullman PD shot the only other guy on Earth that fit the exact same description as Bryan.
Moscow PD now has to take the weakest case in history to trial with no evidence at all.
So if you cannot permanently silence the patsy the old fashioned way, you deny him any microphones, silence all the chatter with a gag order, and destroy everything so a following investigation would have nothing to work with.
Good job. Thank you Scott Green for taking control of the investigation and redirecting it away from the frat kids that did it. Here's a multi-million Dollar book deal for you as a thank you, and here's a few million to distribute to the ones that helped.
And that is why no one of real importance had their phone texting history taken or looked at, and no one has been interviewed in any sincerity by the investigators.
Exactly
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This right here, I can see this being what could have happened. Imo
I love your channel
You are always so kind in your reponses and your voice is so soothing
Big Love to you Rhonda!~
When watching Ethan Moms on this video.. The way she stumbled her words & said “ I don’t know where he is ….. Before she said Heaven.. I find that very odd imo..
Yes me too
And her saying, "I don't have to carry him [under my arm anymore]" 🤔
Maybe it's just me, but I found the "I don't have to" part odd. Generally ppl refer to wishing they still could or missing a certain part...
She said she doesn’t know where he is…could be said if someone is in witness protection or trafficked. IMO
Excellent Point!
I hope so! I pray they're alive and well under witness protection! 🙏🏼
Keep miss the live had to rewatch been going through surgeries but great live
Hope your healing well lovely and ty for replay!
🙏i keep missing them as well😢
To give their loved ones back cremated that would be disgusting.
Interest thing that you say everything that you think you know is ever-changing. It's what you're made to believe. Because what everyone thinks they know is not the truth. The people who did it are being protected.
Bodies can’t be removed from a crime scene till the corner comes in an pronounces the deaths of the victims, first responders couldn’t remove the bodies 🤷🏻♀️ but then again were talking Moscow 🤦🏻♀️🧐
I agree but the clean up was going on by some of the perps (LE) and that is probably why
Jack D Drove a 2011
White Elantra Sold 3 weeks after Nov 13
Brent Kopak Mom had A Silver 2013 Elantra
Brian Koberger Had A Newer 2015
All Law enforcement Drove MidSize White FourDoor Undercover car
There was A Wrecked 2013 White Elantra that was Abandoned of the side of the rd in Washington
You’re right do you remember at the beginning of all this? They showed a picture of white ELANTRA driving through they’re really fast. And wanting to know who the occupants were. Like there was more than one.
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The bodies were moved when Chief Frye was giving a press conference..
It didn't make the news at all until after 3:30 that afternoon, Inan Harsh claimed he googled it at 12:30,, so 3 hours or even earlier than it was on any news.
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I still feel that “ What did you tell Adam “ .. “ I told Adam EVERYTHING! “ was the straw that broke someone’s back that created the horrors that happened that morning 🧐
The horrors were already in play the minute DM and Maddie were able to convince Kaylee to come back, yet, Im thinking KG went home to say goodbye to her family unbeknownst 2 them, but I dont even believe these 4 are dead anymore, when someone is allegedy unalived there is a shock that goes into blinding ones escape, as we are all digging thru the details that dont make sense the still alive thoughts start to come into play
I’m just joining your site and I must say……you have wonderful presentation of possibilities of events. I’m with you to stay
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At the very beginning, E’s dad was very vocal, telling them to tell the truth, and say what u know. Then all of a sudden, something changed.
I know Kaylee's dad did, I thought Ethan's dad was very quiet and reserved I never witnessed that.
i have no memory of any other parentals being vocal, showing real emotions, and questioned anything excepts the Gs
imo
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Did E’s three half brothers speak? I don’t recall seeing them!
@@agapelove2853 what's up again ???
That was definitely Kaylee's Dad, Steve Goncalves. He was super vocal and then they were slapped with the 'we'll shut you up' ruling. He's done a couple of interviews more recently though and gave more clues.
This sounds like a huge cover up 👀😳
In the very beginning Dago talked about how the wounds were described at first , that some could have been done with a broken staff of a golf club could match what some of the wounds were describe as 🧐
Isn't there a special time limit for Jewish /burials. funerals
24 hours
Following u and the case from London
Steve G said he just received ashes never even asked if he wanted cremation or anything
That is what I heard as well
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That should be illegal
It is illegal to combine 2 persons ashes in the same urn.
Yes, a number one question of mine is, why be so sneaky about the removal of the bodies in the first place?? That's just weird and 1 more sign of disrespect
Watching on replay 🥰
You're the best!
Without the house the jury cant tell if the surviving room mates heard or didnt hear the murderers. The house being tore down is to protect the lieing surviving room mates
🙏 I can't believe how unethical, a mockery of criminal justice, to treat the victims bodies, their suffering, even their memories so heartlessly. I have to breathe....stop for a moment... to continue because I can't let it go 😢😭💔💀
They tore the house down because of Police DNA was in there
The university owned the house and had it torned down because they were paying $$ in security there. They kept it up as long as they could, and when Anne kept delaying the case they said enough and had it torned down to save money.
Prior to that the owners were in Colorado and also owned the white car found wrecked in Oregon. They came out right away and said it's the wrong car. It was when they asked for the publics help finding the white car because the person might have info.
Replay crew
I saw this interview when it first came out. Steve Goncalves specifically said, they returned the 2 girls bodies to them already cremated. I thought he said Ethan was the only body not cremated. I do remember Steve did say Kaylee and Maddie's ashes were combined. I just assumed Steve combined some of Maddie's ashes with Kaylee's for them to keep. I haven't heard anything about Maddie's ashes being given to her parents.
i remember as well❤
Yes me too …he said they are together in their house,he showed the picture and the 🏺 in Olivia s interview I think
The chapins were Jewish..they do not usually cremate..he also has a burial site that is on find a grave and was in his obit..you can bury ashes in a cemetery..Stacy was taken back by the question..my thought was that she doesn't believe in an afterlife so she threw out " heaven"..my mom was killed in a house explosion .there was no body except some bone and a rod in her hip..the coroner made us positively ID the remains by getting the serial# from the rod..then the " remains" were taken to a crematorium and re cremated..we picked an urn and buried the ashes..but those remains were not released until positive ID was established ...someone had to ID those bodies..
@@patward4706 I agree. A family member has to identify no matter what unfortunately, at as far as I know.
To ME it is absolutely CRAZY to think that these parents had NO SAY SO in how their childs remains were handled, I refuse to believe that! And I'm not saying that to YOU, I'm directing that towards Steve G's comment.
Jack had his Dad's white car
I wonder about the whole thing and if this whole murder even happened
Ive felt this exact way as soon as I seen how this case was being handled. So unprofessional.
I thought they said Ethan was the only one buried wtf
That's what I Heard.😮😢
U missed my comment Mamma D, but the big boom is when Bill Thompson said if you knew what I knew you would feel safe sending your child to this University!! Boom!! The only way I would feel comfortable is if the victims or alleged victims are still alive!!
Thank you for your words for Ethan's mom 10:28 . It broke my heart too. I don't know how anyone can go at this mom who is clearly doing her very best to deal with any parents worst nightmare. I feel her pain every single time she speaks. Praying for her and all the parents.
The 10 seconds on the Beginn is just eye opening ❤
Karen Reed case ..there was no bruising on victim's body, which they said is not possible if hit by car. All wounds look like a fight to face and a dog attack on arms...is theory..
They weren't looking all over the house for DNA, just in the immediate crime scenes, the two bedrooms mainly.
True!
I guess because there had been so many people in and out of that house,they would have been there to this day and the police did not want to go through out,plus all they screwed up to come to light...the house should still be standing and the university didn't want to deal with the Hassel of all the people wanting to see it...if I was any of those parents I would want to see where my baby took their last breath,and God forbid if they cremated them without my permission! He'll hath no fury
Hey Mama D, fyi when people are cremated, they’re delivered to the family in a box. Inside the box is a plastic bag with the ashes inside. It’s up to the family to put the ashes into an Urn or whatever. My uncle was cremated and then his urn was put in the ground at a cemetery. Ok that’s what I know. Hope it helps. Sending big hugs to all ❤
Big hugs 🫂
Does anyone know if any of the families actually saw their child after they died? Or did they just say ok cremate them.
That's my question too
They said the parents only got to see their children on their computer before they were cremated. If I saw my daughters face all bashed in I would literally go out of my mind. Golcalves seem to hold it together if that is what they truly saw.
We do not know if anyone was asleep. We do not kn ow which room they were in. Nothing has ever been shown to be real or accurate.
we don't know if whatever happened, happened there, or was it staged?
Somebody’s dad fixed the lock(s)..I can’t recall the details. something about rekeying the pad(s).
Yes Xana's dad
Today you cant teach your children to tell the police about drugs dealers
JD & AL enter house...Murphy already in Kayless room = no bedding was there, while 2 girls eat pasta in Maddies room.
One on one =them taken care of...
Ethan & Xana hear commotion, start to head upstairs, recognize who they see...Both JD & AL now cannot leave them alive & huge fight ensues to end them both aswell.
IMO 🤷♀️
Very 1st ever report was sheath found under Ethan.
DM & BF not in house but set scene & left both doors open b4 they exit... return later...again, just my thoughts.🤔
Word on the streets = JDs hands were all messed up after‼
Kaylee room was not packed up. Her bed still had blankets and it can be seen through the window
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Why would Kaylee still have a furnished room if she wasn't living there?...
Someone else rent it out or take it over possibly.
Nope. Drug cartel hit.
I'm obsessed with your channel I'm always been there and I had to change emails my granddaughter locked me out of the other one anyways long story short I haven't been on CZcams but now I have a new CZcams thing a new email and I'm so grateful to be back by the way just keep this up because you are getting so close we are all to the Idaho for it's about the best wide open but I'm telling you this is getting better and better and more not more interesting just weird I mean we all know that this is so been so screwed up and messed up. I really appreciate what you're doing
Thank 😊 you
Most places in Idaho also, do not have “normal” coroner offices and or ME. So they leave it up to funeral homes for transportation and holding of victims. Most places do not have transportation or coolers for holding. So not really chain of custody there. They also are kinda second to LE. To where LE can move evidence and or even the body, before the coroner comes in. I’m telling I, I went over and over and it’s true. Fact. The rules are so weird. They even have one of the lowest autopsy rates anywhere
Great show Mama D.❤
Ty so much 💓
Religiously how can they just cremate a family member if they don't believe in that? Regardless of how bad the person looked, it's the families right to have a closed casket funeral!! I don't get it!?
That's what I thought, too! (re: religious beliefs)
And the reasoning that the bodies were too mangled to release to the families is ridiculous. Number 1, that's not anyone's decision but the family's. Number 2, car crash victims, people burnt up in fires, etc are returned to their families! Why not these 4?? It makes no sense.
Replay Momma D! No way did they stack them! Most likely cremated early on approval from parents only. I have always thought police already there and involved! This would also support the dumpster guy theory just because it makes more sense. The dumpster guy did leave the Moscow area! Yes you should always question everything!
Their whole purpose was to frame Brian
I’m so sorry for these people. So so sad. I think he fought his heart out. I think the murderer took further anger out on Ethan. There has been so much talk and print. It’s like the game of “gossip”. Even the smallest change or error gets changed. There are videos and pictures and interviews and measurements. There are strange pieces to this case, I fear.
BURYING AN URN is NOT strange. My husband didn’t want his ashes scattered and asked to be buried in the sweet cemetery in my home town. My husband was a large person and his ashes and the urn weighed really light. The Prosecution and Defense is not going to show everything until the trial. They don’t have to and some of it is under the protection of privacy act.
That's because cremation incinerates the body into nothing. Vaporized. Just a few tiny burnt bones left that are crushed and mixed with other unknown stuff to make a full urn of just nothing really.
There was someone out there at one point said the only grave they found was Ethan’s .. wish people would stop adding even more confusion to this case so it can get the truth and Justice for these kids 🥺🙏🏼
Cremations are still buried
Most relationships still have a gravesite, it just happens after the funeral ,sometimes months after @@sherrykrause3410
Thank you for this though! I literally thought I as losing my mind!!! I fricking knew I was not the only one that caught that!!! Were u the one that talked about Xana looking like the Australian Xana? Cause I have goods on that if that was u!!
Not me
Weren’t the floors dirty from muddy snow? Was someone cleaning up before calling the police?
From what the coroner stated it was a blood bath
has there ever been photos or videos of the "crime scene " seen?
I will never believe either one of them slept through this!
It wasn't on news earlier..but it was on 'news' by students on campus texting everyone...
My daughters girlfriend was cremated and buried.
My daughter as well
Friends of mine buried the ashes of their grandson. I buried my aunt's ashes between her son and her husband so they could all be together.
Yes thats the generally the way people do it
In a cemetary?
@@debbiedemming2516 Yes. In a cemetery.
@@sarahkelson8386 You did this yourself?
A cemetery employee did the actual burying of the box. But, yes I did.
Was the whole house dark at night or were the entry and common areas always lit?
Really appreciate your serious sense of curiosity and your manor of presentation. Huge possibility of four homeless people cremains; still pray for Witness Protection🙏.
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According to what S G said the girls were cremated by the state (or some agency)and returned to the parents in boxes.
I'm surprised SG didn't want to do their own autopsy
@@terilyngary6059 According to SG she was cremated before they had a chance to do anything.
Police always touch the car. It leaves their prints if the car runs off
Yep I agree
From the moment Chaplin mother asked on video about getting back the golf stuff and the 2 cars ,she got attention from UV….a lot of other things like sponsorship and deals for the family to do better financially,
the 2 boys shared one car and sister had one alone,what means her car was also on the parking lot.
Take a look at the PCA part where the WSU PD find BKs car .. One says it’s a Pennsylvania plate and 30 minutes later at 12:58 AM ?? It’s a Washington plate 🧐 hummm
Missed the live ,That blew me away also,also Why would the Gonsalves's have Maddies ashes? Thats just weird! I dont care how close they were why would your parents give you away like that??
Love ❤️ this question
@@1111TrueCrime Ty,Momma D,Have a great day dear❤️
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That is ridiculous to think they stacked bodies on a gurney… interesting no one saw bodies removed from house
Who identified the bodies? As a party house, seems to me like it would have taken a long, long time to collect and tests all the DNA in that house.
Steve said box the first time and he paid for it remember that statement .
I remember that too
Someone just said ashes come in boxes
Yes , They do.
There is NO Way the two roommates are not involved. And doing the clean up and no 911 call says they had no fear for their lives.
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Did we forget that at the beginning, there was an Elantra with the frat sticker on it that was mentioned.
No I've never ever heard of that in all my time on this case, nor have I heard any other commenter meantion this
Research this, one of the first CZcams videos mentions another Elantra owned by a student. It’s there! Something isn’t sitting right. There’s no way one person could do this. I swear, one of the first interviews talks about a similar car being noted. I’m one of those people that remembers weird things like what zip code means, what an aglet is, when I go to get a trim it’s because if schizotrichia. It’s there, help lol
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Ty so much!
I thought It was strange that they were cremated because that's something you don't do especially right away if you're trying to figure things out about the situation. Has all this confusion regarding this case happened in any other cases? I mean I can understand a few things being wrong but I don't see anything in this case that is right.
Only the cases where LE Corruption is Suspected..... js
@@1111TrueCrime I agree completely, they were covering their tracks
Steve G said he paid for that funeral and not to make him say it! Say whst? They revealed the autopsy results. Kaylees mom said it was the ugliest thing she ever saw. All the wounds on all the bodies were different but Ksylee was the worst.
Sy Ray was amazing in court.
When my son died the Barbera boxer paid a portion of the funeral expenses. Congressmen will help you cover funeral expenses. They know who to call! Use their services. I had a case worker at the welfare dept screw me over several times. I called my congressman from the lobby and when they eere done the case worker was fired.
Even in one of the LE body cams, that dog was following Kaylee out the door, u can see him right on the other side of the slider. If she was out all night, she would have wanted to be with that dog. Not to mention, if Jackie knew she was leaving with that dog, and moving to Texas, he would have wanted to be with that dog that night. If it was a random, a person who could have done that, would not take the time to save a dog. They would have either opened the outside door and let him go, or did what he did to the others. I could never, I have a bernadoodle, and can barely leave for a couple of hours, without wanting to get back to my dog. But the person that can do that to the kids, you would think, would nothing think twice,😊if they did not have a connection to that dog!
After being stabbed and sliced up, then two autopsies. There wasn't a lot left.😭
Yano, they bury the ashes in a plot...smaller of course...in their choice of cemetery. And also I don't think that Kaylee and Maddie's ashes were mixed together. Maddie's family let the Goncalves family have her ashes for awhile, at first, so the girls could still be together. I don't know if they still have her ashes.
I have to tell you something,there was a roomate. That lived in that house,he said you could hear,everyone in the whole house.
Walls a this,stairs creek". Roomates heared everything " my thought only! Thank you for your chanel.
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Great Mamma D as always! Remember that Brent Kopaka
s body was never seen either.
So nice to you see you mama D 💖
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Oh and Mama D, I absolutely LOVE the new beautiful background and seeing your face!
Yay! Thank you! 😊
Hello from NW Ohio ❤️
Hello there!
Boy ! How do they all keep a secret??
My Father n law was buried in a casket at his death, but my Mother n Law was cremated, and her "Urn" was buried next to her husband. I think some of her kids took some of the ashes but I think some were left in the "Urn". Many people chose cremation these days because of the cost, but also if a person were murdered or in a car accident or something where they do not want to show their bodies, they can cremate. Just a response to the statement you made about "burying the ashes".