Northern vs Southern California Kaiser Nursing Salary and COL Breakdown in 2021 | Which is better?
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Trying to decide which city to move to in California as an RN? In this video, we're going head to head: Northern vs Southern California Kaiser Salary and Cost of Living Breakdown in the year 2021.
I will be comparing the Northern California Kaiser Permanente salaries to the Southern California Kaiser Permanente Salaries. I'll also break down the salaries of benefited positions, positions with differentials, per diem positions, and I'll compare the cost of living in San Diego, Sacramento, Los Angeles, Oakland, and San Francisco. Then, I'll also go over the reasons why you would want to choose one over the other.
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Great video and appreciate this cost analysis that nurses like me should know when looking at career options. Thank you and looking forward to more of your videos.
Thank you sooo much, it really means a lot!
Outstanding video! I really appreciate all of the intricate research and all the details given. Thank you! 😁
Thanks so much! Your comment means a lot!
Appreciate this video! I just recently interviewed with Kaiser and this video definitely help to break down a lot of questions I had. Just subscribed!
Thank you so much! Best of luck to you!
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Hi Jason can Long term care nurses make the same overtime as the hospital??
Hi Elaine, long term care nurses get a lot of overtime but Kaiser is not a provider of long term care. Also, long term care nurses make less than nurses in the hospital setting (even some of the lowest paying hospitals).
@@NursesToRiches Thxs again..
@@elainelane1119 You're welcome 😁
Thank you for using a lot brain for we one day I will sure I that I will be working a lot and earn a lot in Cali sacrmento love u bro ✨💫💫💖🙋
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Nurses!
Any time!
Thanks a lot brotha. This is really helping a lot with my decision making process on the moves ill be making after my program.
I'm glad you found the information helpful! Good luck with everything!
As always GREAT CONTENT
Hey man, i love all your videos! Very inspiring and motivational. Not nursing related, but can u do interview panels for other medical careers as well? I’m gearing towards MRI tech and i want to know more about how they make and their experiences. Hope u find this interesting!
Delivered as always! Great vid
Thanks so much!
Never have I been this early to a video.
Thank you thank you! LA resident here
Wow, you're quick! Lol. Thanks for watching!
Hi, I was offered 52.52$ per hour in Glendale. I have 4 yrs and 8mos bedside experience. Is that rate fair?
Bay Area! Appreciate your super detailed yearly northern & southern Kaiser_RN Salary +COL comparison.
Thanks so much!
This was another great video. Thanks for the great content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love it here . Counting months and u do all the work for me. You are such a blessing :).
Hi Sharon! Have you visited Sacramento yet?
Unfortunately due to my schedule I can’t . But I have already made up my mind :). If u two can , so can I. Looking for jobs and housing currently :). . I can’t wait
Haha, you are not messing around! That's exactly how we approached our decision too. Once we decided we wanted to move here it was full speed ahead.
No am not . Life is knowing what u want and working towards that . Your videos have been such a great help and revelation . I didn’t see the need to come . Am super busy . I have accepted the move and whatever hardships I face, my career is sthng I want to protect. The unions in California give me the space and freedom to Focus on being an amazing nurse . Which is all I want :). I love and enjoy being a nurse .
I had an interview with Kaiser yesterday for the new grad program. I hope I get it! 🙏 Thank you so much for all the information!
Omg, congrats for even getting this far! Best of luck and let me know how it goes!
Any updates? Did you get it?
Hey! Was the pay accurate to this video compared to what you were offered?
Yes!!!! Thank you for posting!!
No problem, thanks for the support!
Stumbled around your channel and I though of nursing but haven’t going that route and is in college to go to PA school l, and man I’m glade I still subscribe to your channel for just update, wish there was your type of talk for pa this is so informative
Thanks dude. I'm glad you find value in these videos. I'd be interested in seeing this kind of content in all types of careers to be honest. It sucks that talking about personal income is such a taboo topic anywhere in the world.
Very detailed video 👍
Thanks! 😃
Thanks for the video
You're welcome! Thanks for watching 🙂
Thank you, Sir! I'm going to start planning visiting the Sacramento area in December. I finish my BSN in April.
You're welcome! December is a great time to visit, the weather is much better than it is in the summer months.
Make sure you bring lots of layers when you visit!! -Kris
@@fRieNdlytravelers Will do, thank you!
Be careful which areas in Sac you move into. Neighborhoods here can be very deceiving. Good luck!
You are too good with figures! You should be a statistic professor 👍 ❤️
Hope you will make a video of pros and cons of being full time vs per diem
That's a great topic of discussion. I have included it in my list. Thanks!
I was waiting for this video! I just came back from Sacramento and did the live scan:) It was very hot but surprisingly so cool in the shade! NY is so humid.. I decided to move to Folsom when we get the CA license approved! BTW I had worked in the nursing home for 4 years and then have been working in OR for 6 years now, am I considered for 6 years or 10 years of experience? Thank you always!
Hi, so cool! I'm glad you guys have decided to move. Folsom is such a beautiful place 😀. With regards to your previous experience (4 in a nursing home and 6 in the OR), you should receive 1 year of tenure, for salary purposes, for every 2 years of previous experience. So, that means you should (don't quote me on that) come in as a Step 5 when you join Kaiser. So, if you look at the charts, the ones with the experience listed from 0 to 31 years of service (or 1 to 31 years of service) you will fall under the 5 years of service parts.
Would you happen to know the starting rate for an icu rn with 10 years of exp for socal? I'm sure their is a difference based on the UNAC contract and CANA contract. Also, how do step increases work within kaiser? Thanks for the help!
Hi Jason, I really love what you're doing. thank you for doing what you do. I was kinda wondering to hopefully speak or chat with other nurses in Home Care in Kaiser. Specifically the Case Managers. How they operate they daily activities how they manage their time, and how's their case loads and workloads for the day. do you know of anyone from the Norcal, SoCal. I am curious to know. I am a Case Manager here in SoCal, Kaiser Tricentral and it always seems like that the productivity they wanted for us are not REALISTIC.
Thank you . Can you tell something about Santa Rosa?
Thank you!!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Aww, thank you for watching and commenting!
Hey question, does Kaizer factor in the RN wage any LVN experience for those who have been LVN's for about 10 yrs and worked in skilled facilties plus gained relevant nursing float pool in acute care at a hospital as an LVN??? This is the situation for someone I know who after 10 yrs of being an LVN is an RN.
Hello , great video and wonderful info! I was wondering do you have information related to alternate compensation program ? And does that program offer differential pay or is that like per diem , since benefits aren't elected ? Like a PT position but no benefits . Thanks @nursetoriches
So detailed, maybe you should try working in the ICU! Haha, But thank you for creating such a well organized video! I'm thinking about buying property and moving to Cali once I gain 2 years of experience. Would you recommend?
Thanks for the comment! When it comes to your question: it really depends where you're looking to move to. At the moment, real estate prices are still at their all-time highs, and trying to buy in the cities closer to the coast line is almost impossible on a nurse's wage. That's why Sacramento was the city most Californians to moved since the pandemic started-it's one of the most affordable, while still being close to the bay area. But prices here have increased dramatically as well because of the mass influx. However, you can still find a house here for under $400k, unlike the bay area.
Also, every nurse that we know wishes they would have moved to Sacramento sooner because it really is a hidden gem for nurses that want to get paid bay area wages while having access to housing that is much more affordable than the bay area.
So, at the end of the day, you're the one that's going to have to weigh the pros and cons of moving here in two years. I'll continue to make videos and keep everyone on the loop about life here in California. But if there's any questions you may have along the way, feel free to let me know.
Best of luck to you!
Hello, thank you so much for making this video! I currently work at Kaiser NorCal and finding it difficult to find what my pay would be for SoCal. It will be 12 years this year with Kaiser. Based on your grid is it correct the my hourly rate would be about $74 if I transferred to SoCal? I have heard that if I decided to transfer out of CNA to UNAC or SCNC I would be starting at Step 1? SO confusing.. I would love to transfer to Roseville or Folsom but not finding any luck. Appreciate any advice or tips you can provide.
As another commenter said, if you go to southern California, it sounds like you will start out on Step 1. But if you go to northern California you would start out as a step 5.
Jason can you talk about LVN pay as well to help us out🦋. THX
Excellent analysis. The crime rate and commute keeps me from making a jump. I enjoy a lower cost of living, lower crime and a 12-15 minute commute.
The good news is that there are many people moving here from other parts of the country and with that comes a higher amount of revenue earned from taxes collected by the city. This should hopefully also mean that more money could be allocated to areas that help reduce the level of crime like investments in education, job training, social services, and a stronger police force.
so very accurate; i've worked both areas...i take my loses an go for th southern sun.
Can't disagree with you on that one. The weather definitely is perfect in Southern California.
Reason why I’m trying to move out there! Love the vibe!
Thank you thank you 🙏🏽 nobody is talking about this and if you try to look up the rates online they are way off
I'm glad you found it helpful. Thanks for the feedback!
Just curious because I just got a job with Kaiser starting at benefited night shift step 2 pay because I have 4 years outside hospital experience. The following year when I’ve worked with Kaiser for one year total will I move to the next pay tier which is 67.09 and also get the percent pay raise the union just negotiated for the nurses on top of that ? Sorry if that’s confusing just trying to figure out how the raises work. 😅
Hi! Yes, you usually get a step raise and an anniversary raise. However, the union is still in negotiations with Kaiser. So, our contract expired this month and there will be no anniversary raises (only step raises) until we can get a new contract secured.
Do u have a video of all the highest paying So Cal hospitals
Could I ask, would overseas experience usually counted for the total year of experience? As I worked in Australia for 15years
You would come in as a step 5 if Kaiser accepted your experience because the max they give you credit for is 10 years and every two years of experience is treated as 1 year. So, in my charts, if I mention the years of experience, they would be the same as the steps. If you see 5 years of experience in my chart, that is what your rate would be.
Would you please 🙏 make one for LPN?! 😢
Very well done video, as always. Thank you for your time.
Question: is there even a such thing as a zero experience nurse getting into Kaiser?
Yes, there are residency programs that Kaiser hosts every year where each hospital will hire around 100 new grads.
@@NursesToRiches that's awesome. Thanks for the reply!
Do you have a video that details this process, or can you point me in the direction of some resources I need to look at so that I may prepare myself for something like this in the future?
@@smashtc I posted a link to their residency page on my community tab a few weeks ago. It's also on our Facebook page (Nurses to Riches). I would link it here but youtube would flag it if I did.
@@NursesToRiches found it! Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
Anytime!
How is years of experience decided? Is it if you started working by X day of the year it count as one or what?
First day of work as a nurse counts as year 0. One year employed as a nurse counts as 1 year of experience. You get credited one year of service at Kaiser for every two years of experience. And you get credited a max of 5 years of service, which is 10 years of experience outside of Kaiser.
I was offered between 45-50£ /hour base rate in South California Bakersfield. is that alright for an ITU nurse who had 10 years experience? Pls advise
That seems to be the average for Southern California. Your rate would be more like $70 to $88 per hour in Northern California, depending on the hospital.
Hello :) Are there specific hour ranges for the "evening" differential vs. the "night" differential? Thank you
Yes but it's broken down too specifically and by the number of hours you work... For example, a nurse working 7a to 7p gets paid evening shift diff the entire shift, but a nurse work working 7a to 3p only gets base pay.
@@NursesToRiches Thanks so much for replying! So does a night shift nurse working 7p to 7a get both evening and night differentials? but for varying hours?
Question.. the rate for per diem.. is it by years of experience outside kaiser or only years hired in kaiser?
You get 1 year of credit for every two years of experience outside of Kaiser, for up to a total of 10 years of outside experience. But if you start out with Kaiser then what you see in the chart applies for every year of Kaiser experience.
Kaiser LAMC is CNA, but different bargaining agreement than CNA NorCal. Great video!
Thanks for the clarification!
What does this mean? Does it mean that the northern Cali wages presented in the video arrant accurate to all northern Cali cities??
No, the opposite. It means that not all Southern California wages are 100% accurate.
@@NursesToRiches oh gotcha. Thanks for clarifying!
After a year of experience what would be the process to become per diem? quit? apply elsewhere?
Why apply elsewhere when you could just apply per diem within the kaiser system?
Does the experience mean the years in general (I worked many departments), or the years in the specific department you are applying to?
Yes, years in general.
@@NursesToRiches Thank you for info
where do we get current rates with the new increases?
I try to make a new video every year with the most recent rates, but I also update our spreadsheet on a more frequent basis.
San Diego hands down
Hi. I just interviewed for an outpatient surgery center at Kaiser Oakland. Do they get the same rate as inpatient nurses?
Yes they do 😀
Yes they make the same for inpatient and outpatient. Pretty good deal
Actually another huge difference I didn’t realize and maybe you didn’t either was that Kaiser So Cal steps are based on years of service at start not years of experience. So I’ve been a nurse 21 years but I started on Unac step 2 wage in So Cal so I make 59/hr but with the way you say the wage grid is in Sac. I would get 5 years of service credited for my last 10 years of work and make 83/hr that is huge. I’m getting serious about moving there now.
Wow, I did not realize this-that's a huge deal! Thanks for bringing it up!
That’s a huge plus you pointed out that I did not know about and I have 21 years experience and just got into Kaiser in So Cal so going to Sac is a 24/ hr pay difference on day shift. Whoop 🙌whoop.
@@michellee2427 yes, it is. Crazy isn't it? I'm at $98.26/hr with 8 years of experience as an RN III. I work with nurses that are evening shift, working every weekend, making the same amount.
@@michellee2427 Hi Michelle, I hope you get to transfer to NorCal. What facility to you work at? I am hoping to do the opposite but finding it confusing to know what my hourly rate would be. Crazy if I have all these years of experience to start at Step 1. I am trying to do my research to find out exactly what it would be.
I have an interview w San Diego Kaiser tomorrow. I didn’t realize it is years of service not experience. I would be taking a huge pay cut.
Thank you 💖💫💫✨🙋 a looooooootttttttt 🤝
Thank you for making this video, as a student nurse its hard for me to choose where to apply for a job. I really want to live in Socal, im tired of the fires here in nor cal
You're so welcome. I totally get it. The smoke from the fires are also a pain in the ass.
Can we have beginning starting kaiser hourly wage for rn?
It's in here czcams.com/video/KxGhfboQAWE/video.html or you can get the California hospital salaries from our website.
NorCal Kaiser starting soon. Is it Nursing experience in total? Or experience of the same unit you applied for?
They consider overall nursing experience, not just experience in the unit you applied for.
@@NursesToRiches Do you know if you could haggle with the offer at all?
@@karemdelacruz48 you cannot haggle salary in a union-represented hospital.
@@NursesToRiches thank you so much for your help. Keep making videos please.
Do pediatric clinic nurses working full time (40hrs/week) make these same amounts or are their scales different?
Are you asking about Northern or Southern California? If you're asking about Northern California, then yes, because they are part of the California Nurses Association. If you're asking about Southern California, then no, their rates vary by specialty.
I am asking about SoCal
Thank you for the response!
@@cw17longhorns You're welcome!
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As a dude you open my eyes about this stuff man, like if you look into trades with good unions they are not making this much bank. I know some people dog on guys being nurses but if your making this base pay plus over time and sometimes double time dude this is enough to buy a house and support a family.
You're not kidding. Many of the nurses I work with are single income household with several kids and they all own homes. One of them made 425k this year, bought a model x in cash at the beginning of the year, has a home that she bought for 850k, and has a net worth of over 1.5 million dollars, while not even being close to retirement age.
@@NursesToRiches how did she do this?
Hi , your video is always amazing and full of useful informations.
Thank you bro .
I am an international nurse from Africa and I am preparing to write my nclex exam .
I have 3 years diploma in nursing which is equivalent to American ADN ,please I would like to know if kaiser hospital in Northern California can employ me and what is my salary range .l have about 30 years of bedside nursing experience.
Your reply will be appreciated to me .
Thanks
Hi, thanks for the comment! Experience from out of the country is going to be considered on a case-by-case basis. Usually, experience from countries like Canada, Europe, and Australia/New Zealand is looked at in almost the same way as experience from within the US. However, experience obtained in other countries is going to have to be evaluated differently. Although, I should mention that I work with many nurses from Nigeria, Kenya, and Senegal. So, it definitely is possible to get hired within the Kaiser system, as an RN that was trained and has worked in any country in Africa. With regards to salary, I cannot tell you for sure but you would likely start as a step 0 or 1 when coming into the Kaiser System.
Can you transfer from Kaiser Southern California to Kaiser Northern California directly or you have to quit your current job and apply? Thank you.
You can apply directly but your seniority at the Kaiser North facilities will start from scratch. However, you will still get the experience differential and sick/vacation leave will accrue based on your years of experience in the Kaiser system as a whole.
Thank you for your response.
Is Kaiser Fresno socal or northccal?
Kaiser considers it to be in Northern California.
Can you explain why northern california have higher salary? is it because the cost of living in north cal is also higher?
I mentioned it in another comment. And the answer is simple: the nurses in Northern California are part of the California Nurses Association union and those nurses don't mess around. They to on strike if they don't get what they want. And the union consists of over 30,000 nurses. So, that many nurses going on strike is very detrimental to Kaiser's image and operations.
@@NursesToRiches thank u been watching all ur videos but sometimes i got a short memory 😂
Hi
Would it be worth working at Kaiser outside of California ? I live in Georgia and don’t know if the earning potential is as good here. Thanks !
I work with nurses who tried this, gave up, and just moved to Sacramento because commuting back and forth was too exhausting after a while.
@@NursesToRiches do you know if Kaiser has overtime pay after 8hrs here in ga like in Cali
They do not
thank you for the info, this is very helpful.@@NursesToRiches
Do you know ltgr let’s get it he is a rn that works in San Francisco general ranking in ot. I’m wondering how he afford a Lamborghini?
Haha, he commented on one of my videos 2 days ago. He is killing it with a crazy amount of hours he's putting in in several hospitals he works in in the bay area.
I follow ltgr too!
Where can I get a copy of Kaiser pay charts?
It's only available to Kaiser employees.
@@NursesToRiches thanks for replying. I just got hired at Kaiser in Southern CA and wasn’t provided with a pay scale. I have at least 3 years experience but was only offered the 2 year rate based on your chart and wanted to confirm with them and use the chart as a comparison.
@@thasmoth644 the years of experience quoted in the chart is for nurses start at Kaiser with 0 years of experience. When transferring to Kaiser from another hospital, you get credited 1 year of service for every 2 years of experience. So, you would start at a step 1 until you get 4 years of experience, then you would go up to a step 2.
@@thasmoth644 also, to acess your contract, you just have to log into the KP My HR website and type "contracts" in the search bar. It'll then take you to the search results and you can select the labor union contracts link.
Can you mkethe same in home care??
Home Healthcare nurses actually make more per hour but their schedules are very different than nurses that work in the hospital setting (where the hospital is open 24/7/365). However, home health nurses in the Kaiser system can very easily earn over 200k/yr.
@@NursesToRiches thx you 😘
@@elainelane1119 you're welcome!
Should have added fresno as its cheaper then Sacramento but still part of Nor Cal great video!
You're right, but I ended up leaving it out of the video because I work with a lot of Nurses that moved from Fresno to Sacramento. They have mentioned to me that the primary reason why they moved is because they really hated it there and found it extremely boring.
Are they getting the Kaiser Nor Cal pay in Fresno?
I never see job openings in Fresno though and I’m internal.
@@michellee2427 the pay in Fresno is the same as it is in Sacramento and San Francisco.
I’m a new grad living and working in rural NorCal at a non-Kaiser hospital and I’m making more than the SoCal Kaiser new grads. My rent is $1200 a month in a nice neighborhood. Be smart about it!
And that's why we moved to Sacramento where we get paid bay area wages with a cost of living that is similar to Austin Texas'.
Hello @Margaret Raney - which city in Northern California are you located in? I’m thinking about relocating from Florida. New grad pay is $27/hr here and rent is no longer inexpensive in Jacksonville, Florida
@@zenzen2347 I’m not gonna recommend that you relocate to California from any other state. The taxes are absurd, gas is $6 a gallon, and housing prices are exorbitantly high. The pay is much higher, but it doesn’t make up for the cost of living. I’m moving out of state the second I can!
@@RandomGrump I’m still doing my research. Hence, why I said that I’m “thinking” about moving out to California. Since I’m a new grad, I want to have a pleasant first year of new grad residency experience to avoid burnout. I’ve heard great things about the safe patient ratios and the strong unions in CA. My move there would be a temporary stay (no longer than 2 years.) Simply to get the most supportive new grad experience then move on and get in to get out. I’m sure there’s several ways to make anywhere you live more affordable i.e. renting a room vs an entire house, driving an electric or hybrid car, living below means, and the list goes on. If you don’t want to share the city that you are in as a new grad, just say that lol. I’ve been looking into Redding, CA but so far I’ve read/watched mixed reviews. So, my research continues lol
@@zenzen2347 I understand! There’s definitely a lot of opportunities in CA. I can’t promise you will avoid burnout simply because of patient ratios. I think that has a lot more to do with your company’s and unit’s culture. I don’t work at a unionized hospital (I prefer it that way). I work at a non-profit. The benefit of that is the hospital actually puts its money where its mouth is when it comes to patient care. There isn’t a ton of cutting corners, which makes sense because they have to put their profit back into their patients and community. As far as Redding goes, it’s very reasonably priced but there is a fair bit of crime. I would just be careful what part you move to.
What kind of nursing are you looking to get into? I am a CVICU nurse and I work in Napa County, but live about an hour from there. If you’re interested in trauma or cardiac, I can definitely make some recommendations. I have some friends working in Chico at their trauma center and absolutely loving it.
My main point is, the problems that exist in nursing exist here in California too. Yes, we make more money. But $120,000 a year is a drop in the bucket with how much it costs to live here comfortably. I have friends working in the Bay Area making almost twice that and they have to have roommates! 😅
This can’t be right. I have a friend that works in so cal Kaiser and she makes 64 an hour. In fact most of the nurses I’ve spoken to say the same rate with 3 years experience.
The two regions should unify under CNA.
I agree!
San Diego or Los Angles
Both have comparable cost of living 👍.
Does Kaiser pay more if you have a BSN?
No, they don't. Our ADN nurses make just as much as our BSN nurses.
Do you know if critical care units get paid more than other units? Thanks
@@thasmoth644 in Southern California yes, there are slightly higher rates ($5+/hr) for specialty positions.
Nurses get paid the same amount as software engineers in northern california.
Nurses have to physically be on their feet the whole shift and report in person where as a software engineer can work from home.
@@ky7037 True. But you know, software engineers can be real assholes. It attracts dark triad personalities due to the promise of money, and the emotionless technical emphasis. Medical professions are far more noble, and the people (coworkers) far nicer and better people. The same holds for all of medicine except for surgeons. Surgeons are dark triad too, for whatever reason. My theory has always been that it's something to do with cutting people open for a living, but I don't really know.
Came here cause college RN students kept hyping up Kaiser and $90/hr.
It's true. I make $101/hr now. New grads start at $70+ base.
@@NursesToRiches you guys deserve it. Every time I step foot in Kaiser I tell myself I couldn’t do what you guys do. Plus I don’t like needles or blood or wearing a face mask all day.
BIG DATA type analysis
Kaiser LAMC is represented by CNA, and we are a strong union
How long have you worked there?
the answer is EITHER ONE IS GOOD, LEAH OR RACHEL. LEAH IS RACHEL AND RACHEL IS LEAH.
I am not a nurse, I Just play one in the comments. Just of the title, I would hate to live down south
Lol, well, I'm glad you watched the video! Southern California is a cool place to to live in, but I like our high salaries and low cost of living here in Sacramento.
@@NursesToRiches I know your channel is for nurses, but I'm always looking for nuggets of info I'm your vids on how to become a little more successful. Scary being a dad on a teachers salary and not owning a house. Not sure if I will ever be able to afford one.
You need to teach biology.
My wife works here under CNA here in the bay making $90 an hour but for the last 5 years we've owned a home in Menifee which is part of Riverside County. While our house is huge, it's hard to find out what kind of salary she'll get under UNAC union considering she's staff nurse 3..all i know is she's definitely going to lose her 15 years seniority and taking paycut. how much is the question.
She's going to lose her seniority and she's going to make at least $20 less per hour.