ABANDONED 3 Wheeler REVIVAL! Will This Old Honda Still Ride?
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- Today we bring an abandoned Honda ATC 200e back to life!
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Neat little thing about the 185cc and 200cc 3wheelers, the engines share the top end and crankshaft with the XL and XR 185cc and 200cc motorcycles, with only one significant difference. If you look up Horsepower numbers you'll see that the motorcycles put out almost 2× the powers as the same displacement 3 wheelers. The motorcycles came with a flat top piston and a lot more compression than the 3 wheelers have with the dished piston they were equipped with. If you are going to do a top end overhaul, order the piston and ring kit for the appropriate displacement motorcycle and that 3 wheeler will come to life.
Should be top comment! Awesome information
In the early 90's my dad bought a 200 from a guy who said he had rebuild the engine with an old bike he had and it was a rocket. Well, compared to my 110. Dad kept it about a month and sold it. Said it wasn't fit for working. Wish I had it today.
@@ProlificInvention thank you.
@@sunburntodin910 I do a lot of mechanical "Odd Jobs " out here in rural South Texas on farms and ranches. Working on everything from chainsaws and weedeaters to cars, trucks, and tractors, but I always keep my eyes open when I'm on a farm or ranch. Seems like every farm or ranch will have at least a couple old ATVs, and a few dirtbikes/ enduros that have been sitting for years. 9 times out of 10 if I knock a couple bucks off what I was gonna charge for whatever I'm there to fix they will let me haul off one or more of there ATVs or bikes. I have managed to collect a lot of my stuff this way.
@James Buckley Here in Central Mississippi there are things to be found but people are very... proud of what they have.
If I learned anything about these small engines, is that you definetly need to put the air filter in, in order to have a good idle. I’ve been tuning the carb for hours without luck until I decided to try putting a new air filter in the box. It stopped bogging down when revving like magic!
Good to know
Definitely. I've never owned a 3 wheeler myself...but I've owned several different Honda ATV's 300 Fourtrax, 350 Rancher, 400 Foreman, and 450 Foreman, and none of them liked being ran without an air filter...they wouldn't even idle properly.
I always figured maybe these engines were just particular with vacuum?
Yep, my 250 and 350 Yamahas don't run worth crap without the filter on
Thanks, did not know that
Carbs should always be tuned with an air filter on.
I love how you can become a dealership of three-wheelers at this point
I hope that you gave some hot chocolate or cider to drink.
He eliminated all bog and popping with abrupt throttle changes. I sometimes tolerate a little bit in order to run cleaner and save fuel when steadier on the throttle, though one has to mind overheating too when running lean.
I also find it very interesting that OEM carbs are so much better on these than aftermarket carbs when I find the opposite is so often true of small engines because the OEM carbs are difficult or impossible to adjust the mixture due to emission regs while some aftermarket carbs appear to be exempt, and if you think I am adjusting mixture too lean, just look at the emission mandated fixed mixtures! Though I suppose these 3 wheelers predate the small engine emission regs.
He should also have used the wax option at the car wash, which not only shines this stuff, but is wonderful at preventing corrosion and helps lubricate cables and stuff, especially when these machines get rained on.
I also would have tested the tank before putting the seat on.
Then an undertaker business across on the other side of town.
@@jockoharpo2622 This being a reference to tricycle instability on braking turns?
When you get an air filter and an air box lid for it you're probably going to have to redo that mixture.... Just the airbox lid itself makes a huge difference..
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Dude this guy has multiples of them and makes videos on the shit for us to watch. Pretty sure he knows this
Maybe maybe not I was just making a friendly suggestion what you are doing is called a snarky comment that does nothing but cause problems. Lots of people do lots of different things for a living and don't know everything.
Pressure wash then soak the tank in apple cider vinegar for like 48 hours and power wash again and spray a bunch of wd40 in it to neutralize the acid in the vinegar. Works very well on crusty tanks.
Or you can use citric acid powder mixed with hot water to resolve the rust inside the tank. Rinse then use some oil to coat the inside until you fill with gas to the top.
wd40 doesn't neutralize acid. baking soda does.
@@elonmust7470 correct.........
1. Vinegar
2. Neutralize vinegar with water and baking soda
3. Rinse
4. WD-40 or tranny fluid
5. Fuel
Or fill the tank with evaporust
@@FishFind3000 any acid based rust converter will work,
and quicker than vinegar
Man the content is amazing, seeing you and Mook ride around and laugh like little kids is amazing. Keep up the great work, you guys are killing it!!!!!!
For real, I kinda wish I had that kinda spirit left in me after the last couple years
is mook his girlfriend or sibling or??
@@absolutelynothing9636 mook is his wife
@perryturpin766 ok i swear on a different video a comment said they were siblings and on other video a comment say they were dating thanks for the clarification
Done bike carbs for years. Your description on tuning was the most simple and well explained description on fault finding and fixing. Great vid
I love these old Hondas. I have a 1985 125 TRX 4 wheeler which is beat to hell and a death trap but somehow still runs and my dad still has his Yamaha 200 shaft drive that he has had since it was new in 1984. Still runs and looks like new. Those old machines back in the day were built tough and built to last.
Built before "planned obsolescence".
Yep! I have a Yamaha 200E three wheeler. It's a 1984 model. People get knocked on for not having a Honda (I'd love to have one), but my Yamaha is running excellent. My weight fluctuates but I weigh 235lbs. and my 200E will run 50 mph no problem. You're right, they were built in Japan and they didn't cut corners.
@@77yogurt the Japanese built those things tough. Not only is my dads 1984 Yamaha 200 Shaft 3 wheeler like new my 1985 Honda 125 TRX 4 wheeler that i got for free from my grandpa about 5 years ago is somehow still going. I havent been too hard on it or anything like that since ive had it since i was always tought to take care of my stuff but a cousin or someone of mine had it before i did and sunk it in a river multiple times and beat the hell out of it and it ended up sitting in the top of a barn for like 15 years. It burns a little oil (but it burns less and less after i got it and started using it), has no headlight, brakes, and the right wheel wobbles cuz a tierod or something is shot, it had no key so me and dad hooked the killswich to the pullstart somehow to get it to run and it works great (thr electric start still technically worka though). But even though it is old and did not have an easy life before i got it it does pretty good for what it is. We use it sometimes to tow a little trailer with wood on it. Even the reverse works.
This channel has brought me to some products that I can’t wait to use when I move out of my parents house. Because of this channel and other I took on an obs Ford truck rebuild at 16 years old. Already replaced the bent cab from the wreck and currently saving money to buy much needed parts.
@@gearbanginentertainment7476 Mook isn't Kevin's sister, they are in no way related
@@gearbanginentertainment7476 why the only things you comment talking shit on him and his gf
@@gearbanginentertainment7476 get a life
If you used this channel to help rebuild a truck dont drive it. It's not safe
@@gearbanginentertainment7476 inbred jiffy lube tech who used CZcams to make millions. Fn amazes me
I had a 1985 250es Big Red (reverse, shaft drive, electric and kick start, etc.). Toughest 3-wheeler ever made. I loved that thing.
3 wheelers quite different when they first come out my wife bought a very nice used 1985 honda 250SX with reverse she use it for years we sold it to a good friend that still using it today
Great video - great to see a 1983 machine working so well (with a fair amount of expert attention of course). Really nice little vehicle once you were done with it. 👍
Big Red and Lawn-darts are a perfect example of 80s safety. 😂
I had both. Still alive. Bum leg and one eye but eh, all good.
I've got a pretty mint '83 ATC200 and it's great. Pull starts fine no matter the weather. Also, I use the All Balls carb kits for my rebuilds and they're fantastic.
The thumbnail gave me chills because I ran over my own leg with one of those more times than I'd like to admit.
Pretty sure we all did that!
Im from the Netherlands and i owned i too, they were really rare here. Its still a collector's its here for Honda fans. All Honda AT or ATS have never been street legal here so they were not imported.
EVERYONE who’s ridden a 3-wheeler has that exact story
Ehhh nah you just got to get really good at riding it I can ride one on two wheels for way to long 😂
A friend of mine lost his ten year old son to one of these , It rolled over backward on him . Pinned him to the ground and collapsed his chest , he suffocated . His father found him in the ditch 10 minutes later . I personally would like to see them cut up for scrap .
Man do i love the 3 wheelers and random other small motor vids! Keep it up king!
Love my Hondas. 185s, 200s, 250 Big Red. Can't beat em!
Absolutely LOVE old Honda's. Bought a 1983 Honda 110 off a guy who bought it new for his kids... And NEVER maintained it. It had sat for probably 10 years before we got it, hadn't been started or ran in that long. Tank was empty so it was in good shape still, changed the oil, changed the spark plug and dropped fresh gas in the tank.
Thing fired right up, ran a little rough but didn't even hesitate. Ran it for two years after adjusting the carb to have it run better, ran great only ended up losing it because my idiotic uncle wrecked the dang thing and not only totaled it but basically dropped it down a mini cliff that we couldn't find a way to recover it.
Nice one, it’s really hard to kill those Hondas… great little machines with virtually indestructible motors!
That explanation of the carb jets and needles was great. I don't frig with carb'd stuff much so it was a nice refresher.
Man ive been a wiz with carbs for years and the simplicity of how you explained the functions of the carb is immaculate. VERY well done!👌👌
This takes me back. Its the late 80's. I'm about 7 to 9 years old and my dad comes home from his shop with a Honda 80 (or 90) 3 wheeler and a Kawasaki 50 quad. His customer couldn't afford to pay the repair bill on their car and traded 2 ATV's to cover his bill. I can't tell you how many times I got hurt by that 3 wheeler, but I can say that I enjoyed every bump, bruise, and burn.
Kevin, a serious question. Have you ever seen the big floation tires for those three wheelers?
Love the sound effects when you put your hand over the carb to clear out the crud. Done this quite a lot on my junk. Can't afford new so rebuild the old is the way to go. Plus way more fun and if something breaks, not a huge amount of sadnesses.
It's good you're giving Honda and " mi-kun-nee " the credit they deserve
All my Honda’s have keihn carbs. Even my 2021 has a keihn throttle body.
I've always thought Keihin was pronounced "kay-hinn"
Quick tip for cleaning rusty tanks... Put some diesel fuel auto trans fluid mix (or vinegar works probably just as well, too) and a bunch of nuts and bolts. Shake the hell out of it for a while, drain, then do it again as needed.
great content, I needed a laugh you and Mook always deliver 👍
The sound effects at 10:16 were essential to the understanding of the concept, thank you so much
I really love how even across the pond we have the blatant trust in honda reliability, you can't kill them.
You’re european? That’s disgusting
I had a big grin on my face watching you and Mook riding around. That looked fun and brought back many memories.
That 3 wheeler is sweet. I had one many years ago and beat the hell out of it.
What happened to all of the vehicles on the farm? I was really looking forward to more videos on them.
@Samuel Lim I member when they did revivals in the snow.
@@FishFind3000 they don't have the eye of the tiger now lol
1:37 "Our tires look excellent. One of em even holds air."
XD I love it!
Wow, The red Honda 3 wheeler brought back a lot of memories. Seems like that the Feds got involved in getting the 3 wheelers banned from being sold due to a lot of service accidents. During the early 1970s near Georgetown,Ky there used to be a motorcycle race track that had a full slate of racing during the weekends that also had 3 wheel class racing in addition to the dirt bike racing. It was really cool to see those 3 wheeled cycles hang those corners usually with one of the three wheels off of the track.
The Honda XR-75s dirt bikes back then were tough as nails and would absolutely scream around the track. Thanks for your great video, Kevin & Mook.
I like the storage unit full of these things. There's a lot of actually useful information about these old things and it's fun to see them run and ride again. Keep the cars coming of course, but keep the random ATV, cart, ancient small engine, home-built contraption, etc. stuff coming too.
Honda originally started the ATC in 1970 with the US90s and they were mainly made for trail riding and beboping around. Then in 1980 they came out with the ATC200 which was a stripped big red as stated in the video. Along with the 200 came the 185. Then in 1982 they released the ATC200E with the name “big red” used for the first time. In 1983 The 185 got a slightly smaller frame now called the 185S and front suspension. The big red stayed the same except for the decals changing. In 84 the 200s came out (a 185s with a 200 motor instead) and the big red got shaft drive as well, the 185 was still manufactured the same as in 83. In 85 we see the split between Honda incorporating 250 engines into their “big red” name and a subsequent other model the “SX”. During all of this time 110’s and 125’s were produced although personally out of the 12 ATCs I’ve owned I’ve only had 1 125M and the trans went out on it. I’m sure there’s more knowledgeable people on these things than I but hey, now ya know.
In 40 years of messing with bikes (watching my Dad, then doing my own stuff) That is one of the best carb/ running explanations I've ever heard. You would make a badass motorcycle maintenance class instructor. After years of big superbikes and cruisers, I've recently bagged a little 125cc bike. The best fun out of the lot! I'm now watching your back catalog and loving it (RV ones crack me up)
Had one growing up at the ranch.
Have a nice 12" scar on my thigh, side, and a few on my arm when it under-steered and dragged me along a barbed wire fence. Helmet saved my life when my head smacked the fence post.
Teenage years, Good times.
What a throwback, I had one of these in my teen years. I've always regretted that I wasn't good enough to know how to fix it (left the gas line open over winter, it seized up.. brute force broke the piece that connected the cable to the carb and that was where I threw in the towel. Kinda embarrassing to think about these days considering I've rebuilt tons of carburetors since) and it went to someone who knew how, but these days I could've totally fixed it.. but I'll settle for watching you fix one.
Those things are damn near unkillable, those are classic Honda engines that just will not die.
Hit a tree and broke my left tibia in two places on an 85 250R. Trying to power slide and caught a root. Big tree = e brake. MMMMMMM. Always heard : "You'll know if you broke it". YEPPERS. Bent both forks back until front wheel rim smashed exhaust. I did bail and not get leg caught between. I had to pay owner / good friend @ $2600 to get repaired. Yes he did let me ride it after I healed. I was 35 at the time and knew I was going to break a bone someday. 60 now and swing my leg over a '13 bmw g650gs. Best bike of past 10 that I have owned. Have a grin from ear to ear watching and remembering. Thanks a bunch for this one. LOVE you guys. The glimpses of your "new to you" abode looks nice.
Tech at a Honda Motorcycle dealer here. When dealing with small carbs with small gets. Use Honda OEM combustion chamber cleaner, it eats through that sludge like nobody's business. Soak those jets for a day and then poke em through and they will work a treat. Plus it will blow carbon out of a cylinder like no thing.
Fun lil video! Love watching you n Mook cutting up. New place is awesome 💯💯💯
The last time I rode a 3 wheeler was in 1985. My wife and I were at her bosses ranch in Custer South Dakota. I was in the Air Force and was out on the flight line year round. I was well weathered and acclimated to all sort of temps.
So it's August mid 90s and I'm having a blast riding this big three wheeler and I start not feeling so good. By the time I got back to the house I was in full blown heat stroke.
So here I am, a tough all weather guy flat on his back on a couch inside while everyone else is having fun. I guess the difference was instead of busting my rump fixing jets I was having fun instead. Gee, can't have nothing. LOL! Seeing that Big Red certainly brought back memories all right.
Cheers
Terry
Cool history on the Honda 3 wheelers Kevin @Junkyard Digs
Awesome video! I just picked up one that is in rough shape and this helped me get an idea of what to do to get it running! Thank you! I really enjoyed the video! I was cracking up laughing seeing you guys running through the snow and drifting! Hope all is well!
Great video! I just bought a little 50cc Honda moped as a non-starter and after a carb clean she runs like a dream! Amazing machines
Quick tip from a small engine guy. I put the Gunk brand carburetor cleaner in a brake lamp. Itll help with rebuilding carbys. Strip down the carb, do an initial clean and spray it down the the brake lamp, let her sit for like 30 min, then into the ultra sonic. Then rebuild. Also that brake lamp is great to spray down an engine before a power wash and itll help clean the inside of fuel tanks before a rust remover is added! love how your channel has grown and keep at it buddy!!
Great to see you having fun with your little project in the backyard
Brings back some good memories. Had a 200s when I was a kid. Awesome machine! Very reliable. Ps I remember breaking my fenders in crazy cold weather. I used mudflaps from Walmart. Turned them upside down and bolted them to the remaining fende behind the foot pegs. Worked and looked great, incase anybody has one of these and needs a fix.
lots of great info for when i dive into a "74 ct-90 in the spring. thanks.
The gentle answer: Oh .. Goodbye! Got me smiling
Really enjoy these smaller engine revivals. This one was great to watch. The best part was watching you and Mook having a genuine blast running those around.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mook's machine is basically when they took the 86-87 125 m and made it a four-wheel version of it when they quit building the three wheelers. I have an 86 125 m and I found it's a bit of a unicorn when it comes to getting parts for, folks call it the little big red. A 125 with an upright style motor, reverse and low range. A good tank is impossible to find for it. Mine is rusted right through the bottom in multiple places and I'm running a mid-80s 110 tank held on with a zip tie. It would fit right in with your channel. 😎 One of my favorite videos was you and John getting those things running and riding through the Frozen riverbed last year.
Think that's the best running 3 wheeler you have gotten Kevin great video @Junkyard Digs
I had a Honda 350X 3-wheeler once upon a time, that thing is so fun, and this past summer I got to ride one again, brought all the memories back!
I just added an 83 200e to my garage along with my 83 250R and 85 200x. Those 80s Honda machines are tougher than a $3 steak !
honda 3 wheeler's some of the best things the 80s had to offer! great video.
I had a '85 "Big Red" that my dad helped my buy back in '87 when I was like 13 years old. We had matching "Big Red's". We rode the crap out of them all around our property and various trails in the norther part of the lower peninsula of Michigan. Then they sat parked through the mid to late 90's. I used 2 to make 1 runner in the early 2000's. I kept that going until about 6 years ago. By that time, it needed a complete overhaul, and family/kids didn't allow me the time to do that. So I sold both of them. Wonder where they're at now....? What stupid good memories I have of me and my dad and other friends beating the crap out of them, and they just kept on going!
Kevin - For rebuilt kits get the ones made by Shindy, they are a Japanese made rebuild kit, not Chinese, and i have never had any issue with them and have used them dozens of times on these carbs on 90,125, 185, 200, 250 motors, their kits are good quality and cheap, around $20ish bucks for most models.
We had the 200 but chain driven and no reverse, not sure what it was but had all the racks, was good for work and ripping around all day after school... Good machines...
Three wheelers rock! I always love it when you fix another one up! They ain't making anymore of them. Awesome video.
Reaching out to your boy about a good deal and opening up with this, "I'm going to offer you $300 because that's the last thing I need 😂."
I wish every neighborhood was built on friendships like this 😊
I was watching this video right before I had to leave for work and when Kevin said something about Raycon, it helped me remember that I should grab my Raycon earbuds before I leave for work. So thanks Kevin for the reminder!
Mook is the funniest person in the world PERIOD 😂 I love her
I came across something you might find useful( well not for this style of carb) but on most rebuilt carbs that don't work right, the throttle shaft is looser than chit. Look up throttle shaft repair bushings..... The drill bit and bushing kit has saved so many original Holleys and quadrajetz....for me anyway. As soon as you fix the massive vacuum leak the idle screws actually work. I hope this comes in handy for ya, because oreily and autozone both screw up more carbs than they save.
Glad you and Mook were able to get out , ride, and have some fun
That was fun to see guys, I never had an ATV my younger brother did and now i see why he loved it so much. Yee Haa! Dennis
33:47 really good shot! love you guys
I have the 125, the 200 ES, and the 250 variants. They are a blast but are very dangerous. Which is why I love them so much!
boy that brings back memories, folks had two of the 200es on the ranch when I was a kid, they used the snot outa em, such fun lil rigs, used to have an ol gravel pit down the road we used to go boppin though with em to
You and Mook are so good together. It warms my heart to see couples like you guys. Could you please give us a tour of the inside of your new house...mad love bro
awesome video! these old 200 hondas are my all time fav bikes! ive had soooo many over the years, I really cant remember how many lol
For gas tanks (small ones like these and portable generators) I use CLR. I pull the fuel shut off, screen, plug it with a vacuum cap, dump a gallon in and let it cook for a couple hours. Drain CLR into a bucket, rinse tank with hot water, refill tank with CLR (after filtering it of course) and let it cook overnight. Drain CLR again, rinse with hot water then dump a gallon of water and baking soda in and sloosh it around real good for several minutes then rinse. Dump some trans fluid in (enough to coat whatever you did) then add gas. Sounds like a lot of work but it really isn't and it cleans the tank really good.
Between Kevin and Thunderhead They are the best at taking the time to describe the workings of a carburetor. Thank you.
Hey Kevin and Mook , Ya are having some fun out there. Thanks Kevin for sharing and have a great weekend 👋
Love your vids , I noticed that 1000 gallon propane tank next to your house is way to close . According to NFPA 58 that should be at least 10 feet from any structure. You may want to check into having that moved to be up to minimum code .
Yep, and it’s supposed to be one a pad
My friend Mike aka Dirt bike Mike owns a 1997 Honda TRX 300 4x4 with camo colors plastics! He bought it in the early 2000 & it still running to this day. it's only missing the right side cover. lights work. I got to ride it on a short trip. still cool
You guys we’re having enTIRELY too much fun on them things😁. It reminded me of years ago out at one of my uncles old place where me and my cousins would ride mini bikes in the summer and snowmobile in the winter. Good times!
😂 Mook trying to get away w/her small 4 wheeler from Kevin w/his big 3 wheeler. Comedic 🤣
Honda 3wheeler revivals are how I discovered your channel so I’m always stoked to see em
best part of the video was watching you and Mook drifting on the ice.
I love the 3 wheeler content. I've got a 83 200e, a 85 250 big red, a 84 200es, a 84 200x, and a 85 350x. They are such a blast to ride as long as you take the time to actually learn how to ride it and not try and pretend it's a 4 wheeler or dirt bike
Hey, a buddy of mine offered to give me a three wheeler if I got 2 runningb1 for me one for him, what are some common problems I should look for?
Watching you and Mook play around on those things was pretty entertaining.
34:01 the old heelclicker move took me back to when I was 16 and bought one of these w money I earned working at a local dairy farm after school. Definitely helped to keep your shoes and pants less muddy and wet.
I have a 2002 Honda Forman 450 that I have had been having problems with the carb after watching your video it was a blessing it has not ran so good thank you
Junkyard Digs: Iowa Drift --- When you just gotta get some wheelin' done! :)
Loved that Hello Fresh ad....Mook is a riot!!
Now I want a little Honda. On a mission....
I love the fact that you revived this bad boy. I hope you save as many as you can. Awesome job man 👌
1985 also had a 250es big red 3 wheeler i have one sitting in my yard along with an 80 185 an 82 185s and an 85 200x
Thank you kevin for showing how to do slide style carb tuning! I have a 1972 Hodaka Ace 100 Super Rat that has a Mikuni VM24SH that has very similar characteristics to the Keihin Carbs in those old Hondas. For 20 years this bike hasnt been running well and the same thing, just more aggressive has been happening to mine, and by the way you explained it I find that this should fix my issues!
I miss my 1981 Honda 185 ES. It was brutal to ride through the woods, no suspension, and scary quick. I loved it!
Your channel is the only one I won’t skip ads on. Y’all bust your ass you deserve that as revenue. Keep the great content coming guys
Hi juckyard digs love that fact that you have a lock up full of 3 wheelers
Fun fact small mouth 1liter soda bottle caps can be drilled out and used as the front tank mount isolators! Used it on the trail on my brothers 350x three wheeler!
Great videos!
One correction. The 200es is not the lightest one you can get with reverse. 86-87 125m were a vertical motor, tube frame, with reverse. I have an 86. Great machine.
Those things are so cool!! I had an 86 z50r as a kid and always wanted one of these
I too am a big Honda 3 wheeler fan, have owned many of them, including 350X and 250r. They always start with alittle tlc! Great video, love the content!
Grew up riding an 84 Big Red, best bikes ever. 2years ago did a ground up restore on an 86 250ex and its minty.
I love how random your projects are and the fact that they’re generally completed in one or two videos! Keep up the awesome content
Keyster and shindy are by far the best carb kits that you can get. Closest to oem, I've used these kits in several of my honda's with no issue. Love the three wheeler content!
Great video! A fun video for you and Mook! Good you had extra parts to make it a complete ATV again! Enjoy!