The BEST French Organ for Hauptwerk - NANCY
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- My definitive review of Piotr Grabowski's latest and greatest sample set for Hauptwerk - Les Grandes Orgues de la Cathédrale de Nancy - the BEST French organ for Hauptwerk. That's quite a mouthful!
This amazing organ has a few tricks up its sleeve for the organist - in this video I cover all aspects of playing this sample set as well as introduce the individual stops and tonal colours of this unique instrument.
It's a long one, but it's well worth it!
Piotr Grabowski - Nancy Sample Set:
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Grandes Orgues de la Cathédrale de Nancy (in English):
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Fantastic!! Viewers - grab your tea, coffee, or other beverage and join Fraser for this in depth tour of Nancy. But not just that. Some wonderful background on how French romantic instruments work (all those couplers), a thunderstorm⚡️, and a thunderstorm of music at the end! Lots of tips about how to set this huge sampleset up and balance perspectives too. Something for everyone!!
What a beautiful set, isn’t it?! I love Grabowski’s sonic arts. The mixing section was a big help to me! What a versatile organ!!
Hervorragend! Fraser, you have immediately differentiated yourself from other videos on Hauptwerk.
A wonderful demonstration of an articulately recorded instrument and an insightful view of how to configure the instrument.
I can see the 'CZcams' golden button in the mid to distant future, and it will be well deserved when it comes.
Organ demonstrations can never be too long 😉
Great video as always, merci beaucoup, M. Gartshore!
Wonderful. Thank you so much. I learned a lot from this video.
Having spoken with an organ builder who has tuned a Cavaille-Coll organ, and has included Basson-et-Hautbois in his own organs, I learned that Cavaillé-Coll quite literally built a Basson (in terms of the shallot/tongue and resonator scales) in the bass (below middle C) and an Hautbois from middle C up. Thank you for pointing out in the Récit at middle C where we can hear the difference in voicing at that exchange!
Fantastic sound !
BRAVO! - Ausgezeichnet!!!! Wonderful video Fraser!!! I know understand all those Apells and the theory of how the French Organs actually work!!! I can’t tell you how frustrating it has been not understanding how it all comes together…. And it does!!! Again Thank you, Fraser!!!!
AND….
Yes, Yes Yes on the Editing video you had mentioned you would do!!! I so look forward to seeing that!!
An excellent review detailing comprehensively all that this sample set of the Nancy Cathedral Organ has to offer the Hauptwerk enthusiast: thank you.
Merci mon ami! I must get around to featuring some of your delicious ditties!
@@FraserGartshore (Put me in the 'Reger' category!!! I think your sound balance with this ample set is the best I have heard: bravo!)
Many thanks for this fascinating "behind-the-scenes" tour of this monumental instrument.
Nobody made organs quite like the great French organ-builders. Those fiery and colorful Reeds, and lovely Flûtes and Strings.
And your hymn rendition was thrilling. 👍👏
- from a Reger lover ! Haha... 😀
Thanks Bob! I’m looking forward to the day when I can once again play for a singing congregation - I do miss it.
@@FraserGartshore I know you must. But now you've got this wonderful Nancy organ at your disposal for lots of hymn practice.
Hello Mr G this video has been amazing ! My bose headphones made easy work of the full pedal dept (wow) plus the crescendo wheel was amazing.. Thankyou again : )
You should have played Phantom of the Opera with the thunder and lightening outside! 👻
But anyway, a fellow organist was sitting on the couch by me while I was watching this and he was astounded with how real it sounded, it is an amazing sample set!
Great video ! thanks you!
The detuning is what really gives it the french organ "colour"
I can't imagine what it must be like to have all that beautiful sound enter your head through good earphones (while you're playing it). It must be glorious. You look happy.
Now I understand how the instrument works, and the Johann Vexo Widor V Toccata makes sense as well. Thank you!
Super!
Perfect Sunday listen. Thanks for sharing. Over my headphones it sounds good. Can't really compare to live. It's been too long since I've been in a place with an organ playing live music. Soon I hope.
Great demonstration! French Romantic organs are my favorite!
Well that was fun… my wife is singing at one of London’s German-speaking churches at the moment, and happened to have a copy of the “Evangelisches Gesangbuch” lying around, so I gave myself a full authentic experience at the end there! Wasn’t sure which verses to choose though, they all seemed to be in German.
A future CZcams video on your workflow process for production would be very welcome
Heatwave season indeed! I was just in Frankfurt for work about week ago and although not quite as intense as Houston, surprisingly warm! Will be in Hunsrück area all next week so hopefully a bit cooler up there! Hoping to be able to go to a service while I'm there to catch some good organ playing, and maybe talk them into letting me play a bit!
Channeling your inner Noel Rawsthorne - love it. Thank you
17:18 From what I understand, the 1 foot stop was actually an important part of Cavaillé-Coll's medium and larger sized instruments. It served as a substitute for a mixture as in the 1868 incarnation of the Ste. Trinité organ, or a reinforcement of the cornet décomposé as at St. Sulpice. Cavaillé-Coll even put two 1 foot stops at Notre-Dame-de-Paris! In his later years, he included it in the Carillon stop which can be found at Caen, St. Sernin, and St. Ouen (where you might argue it provides that organ's most distinctive sound). Either way, the 1 foot rank was an important part of the Cavaillé-Coll tutti.
Großartige Vorstellung von großartiger Orgel und sehr feinem Set. Gerade was die Sterilität des aufgenommenen Klangs wegnimmt. Super! Und dem Spanier Cavaille fehlen die Chamaden.
Will look forward to the Cortège et Litanie, probably my favourite piece by Dupre. Quite a play with the double pedalling etc
Yes, please do a video on your editing process. I've been using Resolve for a few years. I just upgraded to the full/paid version 17. You can get it for $295 with the key. If you shop around you can get it with the key AND speed editing console also for $295. I highly recommend the speed editor if only for the jog wheel.
I love/hate that you refer to Reger's music as nonsense. Apart from that, thanks so much for this demonstration. I've been considering this sample set for a while, and this video has given me a lot to think about.
Ein Traum... Wieso bin ich nicht Organist geworden?? Immerhin hab ich ne Pianistin geheiratet, irgendwann werde ich sie schon noch davon überzeugen, dass wir unbedingt auch so ein schwarzes Wunder(haupt)werk brauchen :) Die Videos auf diesem Kanal sind mir dabei eine Klasse Hilfe. Wonderful! Herzliche Grüße in den Westerwald!
As a french, i prefer to hear this organ well tuned and not detuned ! Dont't forget that in france, before a pipe organ concert, we are always doing a tuning setting on the instrument !
Thank you very much! Now I understand a little bit how the complicated registration options on the St. Sulpice organ work, although I had the feeling that it had even a few more "tricks", so you could set up a registration beforehand, and then activate it with a foot switch... Still, I have a nice memory having been able to play that "monster" once 😁.
Funny how they use the "Sonnette" register for tremulant, I thought that was the bell for the calcants, to start pumping...
It was. The tremulant for Positif was added later.
Yep - the registration system at St Sulpice has its own Barker Lever action - a very ingenious system for its time. It's actually a lot easier to play and understand than you think! I've only played it the once - 20 years ago - but it was truly wonderful to try it out - such an original, historic instrument. I hope to get it reviewed on the channel one day!
@@FraserGartshore That would be extremely cool :-D. For me it was 2 years ago, late in the evening, day number 3 in Paris, organ number 6... But extremely cool having it all explained (in German, for me a lot easier than French!) by Daniel Roth!
About that hymn you played at the end; I've always known and played a version where the final line is repeated and is played slightly different. Is there any historical reason as to why it would have changed? The syllables in English don't seem to be any different than what it would be in German, so I'm curious to know. Very wonderful arrangement of the hymn and thank you for showing us this wonderful instrument!
Hello Fraser - I'm not sure if you're going to see this comment since it's so long since you recorded the video, but I really, really like the simplicity of your console. Can you tell me more about where the components (manuals, music desk, table, pedalboard, etc.) come from?
Hi Scott. Don’t worry, CZcams sends the comments over sorted by date, not by video! Check out my Hauptwerk Organ Playlist - I’ve Details of everything there, from unboxing it all to the final finish at the organ builder’s! It’s mainly a self-made affair - the bench was a €1 special from eBay, the Pedalboard was a gift, the components were all provided by a supplier in the Netherlands and the casework was completed by a German organ builder friend. The table is, believe it or not, from ikea!
When I see a cup of something so close to a keyboard it worries me... Otherwise, great video!
How do organ manufacturers decide what to name the manuals? I always thought that they were named by the order from bottom to top. Thanks, and I do like your videos.
Thank you for the great video. Nice Playing. Is Großer Gott wir loben Dich your Interpretation or does a music sheet exist? If yes, it would be nice if you could show me, where to get it. Great stuff. Thanks
Thanks! It’s my own arrangement/harmonisation - any excuse for crunchy chords!
it is a wonderful hymm i also loved the hymm Great is Thy faitfulnes, OGod my Father which is simular to this i think.
Bass Frequency Response: fm 37:00 - Fraser; Check via You Tube - is this what you hear when ORIGINALLY playing through "decent headphones / good speakers"?
[I'm thinking there is a low frequency roll-off via You Tube at say ~ 120Hz]
I've checked this about 3 times - Listening on Sony Xperia phone 'blue toothed' to a stereo radio
- No oomph: the sound is there if a bit breathy, but little in scale or depth... Not 'a nice big rumbly sound'?
- Which might be most people's experience on tinny speakers etc
However back in my office through the Class A Amp and Linn Kabers there's more breadth an definition - but not earth movingly impressive?
[32' machine gun understood at C0 16.35 Hz - also Bosendorfer Imperial]
Question. The Nancy organs appears to have 58 notes on each manual. Fraser's manuals have 61 notes. Does the Nancy sample set carry all the way to the highest C (note 61)?
The original organ only goes to top F (54 notes). The sample set is extended to top C.
Sick, bro. Sick. So you can/could download the Hauptwerk on a laptop and take it in the church and play it from the church organ? Will definitely have to do more research because those organ sounds are too beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
Your organ would need a midi in/out socket and your computer has to have an input available. Most of the organists seem to use a desktop style computer. Check the requirements before buying any gear.
42:51 - Alas, as you may have learnt since this video was posted, the récit has artificial tremulant only-the real tremulant wasn't working when Grabowski was recording. It's a huge shame for the voix humaine, I agree. I love the tremulant on the positif, though, which was sampled acoustically.
💯👍
Sound Source Authenticity: @46:00 This remark is crucial: "even if you have a million speakers corresponding to a million different pipes"
- Truth is you'd be lucky to get 20+ speakers and that would be in a pretty good installation
At home it's mostly 2...
Exact same arguments apply to pianos vs digital keyboards: the feel / ambience is NEVER the same - sounds like, but actually isn't quite
Just checked the ole Bechstein Model D Grand 8': 12 Una Corda ; 7 Due Corda then 96 Tre Corda = 233 individual sound generators - the strings
- Plus all that Edwardian proper wood - none of your funny MDF - properly resonant cabinetry... Though unlike an organ doesn't have the home 'Acoustic' stop...
Großartige Version von "GGwld"! :-) :-) :-)
Finally, the Great Organ of the Nancy Cathedral will be restored to the state of 1861, as it would have been when A.C.C. finished his re-build! I am assuming its sound will bear some resemblance to that of the St. Sulpice organ, as both those organs retain some classical characteristics and A.C.C. worked on them at the same time
That’s interesting news! If they restore it to its original CC state, that will be an amazing instrument indeed!
wonderful organ, perfect micrphone take and terrible multirelease. Need an update
Warum hältst du deine presets geheim?
You are lucky - I unplug my Hauptwerk organ and computer if there is a chance of lightening - a direct hit would potentially fry you equipment. OUCH. Thank you Fraser this was wonderful - my envy level high. Maybe some day there will be a sale and can afford this beautiful set.
Don’t worry - I have the necessary precautions in place!
@@FraserGartshore -- I am a bit of an electronics guy,. -- Yes surge protectors are great but they are not so good at a direct strike on your incoming power lines. Such a strike could blow light and plug socks right out of the wall, -- absolutely love your work maestro. Thanks again.
I agree with the other Joe . As a rule I unplug my organ and computer when I'm not using them. And unplugging means physically removing the plug from the wall, not a switched power strip. Remember that lightning can jump thousands of feet so the small gap of a switch means nothing. Surge protectors are great, when they work. At high enough voltages I wouldn't bet my organ on one.
@@fjbrady neither do I - I even wish I could disconnect the speakers too - but that would require me to remove the back of the Rodgers 760 to do it. In fact I got this wonderful instrument from a church for FREE because it was struck twice and the insurance company who fixed it once at a cost of 5K and refused to do it a second time. Yes _ they never unplugged the instrument.
@@fjbrady Lighting does amazing things. In sail boats a strike might travel down the mast then decide to jump sideways and vaporize a through hull and seacock, a one to two pound bronze piece just to get to the ocean and ground.
Now I have to move the furniture back to its original locations.
Roger Ducasse during a thunder storm would be nice
Gibt es auch noch eine deutsche Version?
Die kommt morgen!
Die werde ich mir auch ansehen/hören, obwohl ich fast alles verstanden habe.
Insbesondere, dass Fraser mal wieder seine Tonleitern üben muss ;-)
Und andere Jokes die er gebracht hat :-)
Immerhin - auch bei der größten Hitze ist höchstens eine "Pfeife" an dieser Orgel verstimmt. Also immer ganz cool bleiben. :-)
I subscrrrrribed just for rrrrrrolling R's.....also pipe organs but mostly rrrrrrolling R's
Moin
12:44 are you trying to tell us something with that dad-joke? ;)
Caen >>>>> Nancy
Schade kann kein Englisch
Steht unten in der Beschreibung : deutsche Version kommt morgen!
Come on... how can this be the best hauptwerk sample set? Do you all have ham in you ears?
Don’t keep us all in suspense - what is it in your opinion?
@@FraserGartshore let's be clear, I don't want to be considered as a person who is just critical to everything, I do like sample sets like Prytanée, Dudelange, Nijkerk, and some others... but this one sounds like he sampled it and he did a really good job and after sampling it, he resampled it from an old speaker. I'm really convinced that the original samples (the recordings of the pipes were good) but I also don't know what he did during the mixing and de-noising process. I do love symphonic and modern music, I suggest you buy Dudelange, that one sounds like a real organ! Especially if you have a good audio card and quality headphones
Why do you insist on those affected rolled r's? It's so distracting.
Affected? Hardly. It’s the way I talk. I’ve been doing it all my life. It’s what one calls an accent. A mixture of where one was born, how one was educated and how one was brought up to speak. You too will speak with an accent. The politically correct bunch will call that diversity. I call it nature. Wouldn’t the world be an awfully boring place if we all sounded the same?
@@FraserGartshore Exactly. Why do people insist on being idiots about this.