On the amon thing. Throughout the series it's suggested that amon wasn't just a random demon but an actual big deal. So i just kinda assumed that he ran into the name while researching demons. He wanted his friend to be strong enough to defeat all demons so he needed to give him the power of the strongest possible demon. Although i guess the series never really implied there was like demon lore you could study to figure that out either.
That's the best explanation I've heard. Problem is Crybaby never presented Ryo having that kind of knowledge. We know he was studying demons, but not that Ryo knew certain demons by name and powers.
@@Pan_Z I mean, that's a lot of what real-world demonology is though. A lot of the most famous books on demons - such as the Dictionnaire Infernal and Ars Goetia - are essentially giant lists of various demons and their powers. Amon in particular has this entry in the Ars Goetia: "The Seventh Spirit is Amon. He is a Marquis great in power, and most stern. He appeareth like a Wolf with a Serpents tail, vomiting out of his mouth flames of fire; but at the command of the Magician he putteth on the shape of a Man with Dog's teeth beset in a head like a Raven; or else like a Man with a Raven's head (simply). He telleth all things Past and to Come. He procureth feuds and reconcileth controversies between friends. He governeth 40 Legions of Spirits. " ...Even discounting that, Amon is a particularly famous demon that shows up in a lot of places
I figured the whole "Amon" things was Ryo/Satan regaining his memories. The later episode "Know Thyself" is triggered mostly by him remembering this specific event and then wondering why he even said it. I also think elements like this and the re-creation of the world in the epilogue are supposed to references to the "time-loop" that was introduced in Devilman Lady and referenced somewhat in Violence Jack. Like Satan is unconsciously recreating the events of a past loop without even fully realizing why.
*Dire Thunders your Waifu totally agree, surprised he didn't notice there's an entire sequence explaining the 'Amon, now your chance!' scene even after watching the series twice and asking multiple people for an explanation of the scene, even though it's explained in a very pivotal moment of the series.
I know I’m really late (I only watched it last week, and holy fuck did I love it), but I chalked the “Amon! Nows your chance!” scene as Ryo subconsciously performing that act without even realizing he did it. Satan was creeping through the cracks of Ryo that started after the scientist/his father died. Idk, that’s just me
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HyperBitHero Dude you missed a major scene for ryo. Making Akira a Devilman was part of his subconscious plan. Satan knew Amon so he lured him out. He realized this when heaven attacks earth and he say “this wasn’t part of the plan.” Also unlike the ova there was no ancient war between heaven and demons. It’s a time loop. Heaven destroys earth and resets civilization. Satan is reborn every time to suffer the same fate.
I utterly adored this show when it came out of nowhere with such confidence and energy whilst modernizing the story in interesting ways. Sure it’s definitely not perfect and needed more context and development but I’m just thankful we got an adaptation that covered the story from beginning to end. That and the soundtrack/score is impeccable.
Way too short for the story it is trying to tell. That's the feeling I was left with. Edit: That's a lot of criticism for a favourite. Edit2: LMAO this is ALL criticism. This should've been "Your Next Favourite: Devilman OVA"
For me, Crybaby felt a lot more like an art film than a piece of pop culture, which is less a judgement of quality and more of presentation and content. A good amount of the art films I've seen have things like plot and character and even the simple idea of quality as their lowest priority and just kind of charge ahead with whatever content will break boundaries or contribute to their message or just enforce their mood or style, and that's very much what Crybaby felt like, a piece about mood and style and pushing boundaries; if I had to guess what the thesis statement for all of that was, it was probably to try and be as daring and shocking in the modern day with modern audiences as the original was back in the day. Just about the closest I ever came to feeling An Emotion™ that involved Connecting™ to a character was during Miki's death, just because she came SO CLOSE to MAYBE making it, and her voice actress earned her [insert Japanese equivalent of an Oscar here] with that fucking SCREAM. I ended up sort of enjoying the weird deviations and circling back around to original plot points, because in the service of this being a piece less about plot and character and more about mood and style, it sort of reinforced the mood of absolute hopelessness- it was like the characters and even the world itself were trying desperately to twist into a different shape that could get them to a less tragic end but Fate kept pushing them down the same roads no matter what they did. If I had to give a thesis statement to this fucking essay of a comment, it's that I found this video fascinating because I enjoyed the show for all the reasons it frustrated you simply because we were either looking for or stumbling upon different things from it.
Finally someone who talks about the flaws of Crybaby and doesn't call it a Masterpiece, don't get me wrong i loved it, but is it perfect, far from that, you pointed out how Ryo calls out for Amon even though he has amnesia, i 100% agree with you and even if you try to use the psychogenny argument, like you said, it won't feel right, when i finshed the show i said to myself "wow, this was really good" but deep inside i knew that there is definitely a lot of plotholes if i dig deeper and rewatched the whole thing, i tackled the first OVA and it was at that moment i realised "ok, i was completely biased when i watched Crybaby" the sabbath scene is like the biggest example i can think of when it comes to inconsistencies and you know why, for the art direction, i think it depends whether you like it or not, i don't have a problem with it (inb4 ryo's terrible drawing when he tells akira to come with him) but like you, i found that the OVA was superior, is it tied to budget? probably but it deserves to be criticized nonetheless , i mean looking at the sabbath scene from the OVA it allows for more dynamic action and the colors are just **mwah**👌, really enjoyed your vid and your opinion about Crybaby, it was a breath of fresh air to see someone sheds some light about the flaws, i really respect you, keep up the good work ❤ P.S: oh and the OST was great
Best Guy Ever was also fairly critical of the show around its release and didn't consider it a masterpiece. You should give his review a watch if you like this one.
i love crybaby as an adaptation, also really surprised you're allowed to show half of these clips 18:29 wait, those WEREN'T the same characters??? for the longest time i thought the latter was just the devilman version of the former devilman.wikia.com/wiki/Kukun devilman.wikia.com/wiki/Moyuru_Koda
The only thing this series killed it for me giving it higher than an 7.5-8 is its rushed pace imo. If the series was 16 episodes instead of 10 this wouldve been the absolute best, but as it is its great
It isn't his goodness that puts a stop to Amon's takeover, it's his iron will, his goodness is what motivates him. I was one of those kids that cried whenever I felt a strong emotion up to highschool, most often when angered by something I felt was unfair, and even in a couple of fights, so I had no trouble at all believing Akira might be the same. Psycho Jenny was Rio's assistant before he reconnected with Akira, and comes to Akira with the intent to show to the world that demons exist. I hadn't seen or read any Devilman before this, and I felt he was "the real bad guy" the second he pulled a gun on the punks at the dock.
Umm ill try to anwser the whole amon thing i always thought it was a barrier in his mind going down to allow the scene to happen but later on he even notice this hiccup and then bam remembers everything
Though I understand why you've chosen this as a Your Next Favorite, as you've literally explained yourself, I still think the video may have functioned better as a straight-up review. Not to say it was a bad video, and your criticism really hits home some of the problems I also had with Ryo after comparing with the manga. Idk maybe the choice of a 'Your Next Favorite' was inappropriate for the structure of the video, and I feel you could have said more or gone into more detail with a more conventional review video. Anyway I still enjoyed hearing your opinion on the new Devilman and look forward to new content.
I'm still sad that the OVAs never got finished, they were so amazing. Also, thank you HyperBitHero for showing me devilman, after your initial video I read the manga and watched the OVAs and just like you said, it became my next favorite.
After your first video about Devilman I decided to re check the Devilman sequels and spin offs and I have to say while you are right about most of them, Neo Devilman has aged surprisingly well, to some points even become better than the original manga, being more of a collection of stories that happened during and after the original story with various artists and authors, I say is the perfect book to end the original story.
I still prefer the ovas, it was especially hard for me to watch Crybaby after watching the ovas first. Crybaby made me only wish they finished the ovas even more.
Yeah I was also confused also about the track runner that was a devilman and the guy with the shades that becomes the other miki's boyfriend, thinking they were the same guy for a few episodes. But that plot twist at the end was amazing! The most insanse ending I've ever seen!
Wait, maybe I remember it wrong, but wasn't the whole Amon thing explained in the episode where Ryo realizes that he's Satan? Well, maybe not explained, but he definitely acknowledges that plot point.
Regarding so empathetic he cries, my dude I've seen grown ass women cry about a crooked umbrella because she felt bad that no one would buy it. Akira is mild in comparison. I always thought that Ryo just knew the same way he knew about the Demons. He just did research.
Holy uncensored! But I do remember the show addressing one of the flaws you listed. :SPOILERS AHEAD: Later in like an Episode or two before Ryo reveals he's Satan, they do reference when Ryo called out to Amon to possess Akira. Ryo was having strange memories and thought back to that incident, wondering why he had called out to Amon and how he could have possibly knew his name. Also, I've never seen the original, so in the first episode when he calls out to Amon to possess Akira, I figured he may have known about him through his studies of demons. Later on, it's shown that nearly every demon knows of Amon, so that only supported my theory oon that.
Hey loved the video regarding what you said about Ryo at 8:40 the way I saw it is that; he was saying things unconsciously. He was probably thinking "Whatever demon there is, possess Akira now", but started saying Amon without realizing it. I see that some Japanese media uses this writing quirk from time to time such as the KH3 Monsters INC trailer:czcams.com/video/W5CTlRKa1SE/video.html
Thank you so much for making this video. All of the flaws that you presented have been bugging me since the beggining. After all of the 10/10 masterpiece reviews i have been seeing , its nice to see someone pointing out the flaws of the show. Great video! Keep up the good work!
My explanation to why he scream Amon is more simple.. he just did research since hes a genius scientist and all and wanted to see what would happen. One thing to know about Yuasa is that he hates overworking his staff and is constantly experimenting with ways to make the process of animation less taxing, this simple style is something hes been experimenting on and tweaking for a while.
I personally found it weird that he does call for Amon specifically, but I chalked it up to the fact that Ryo's a super genius and prepared for Amon specifically because he was the strongest that wasn't Xenon or something.
Love your content, as always! Btw are you planning on continuing your Yakuza video series? Or have they become somewhat obsolete since the series seems to have finally caught on in the west? BTW. Thanks to you I got started on the series and because of the series I'm now finally learning Japanese, which I wanted to do since I was a kid. So, I guess I'll indirectly have to thank you for getting me to finally fulfill one of my dreams!
We know that The world of crybaby is cyclical and that events repeat. I think that's meant to partially explain why characters sometimes mention things they shouldn't know. The way I interpreted Ryo mentioning Amon's name during the rave scene was that a part of his Satan memories were unconsciously brought forth. Later on, when he's doing his detective work and returns to the scene of the rave, he starts to realize something's up and remembers mentioning Amon by name. This is similar to a scene we're repeatedly taken back to: when young Akira and Rio are standing in the rain over the deceased cat. Ryo is telling Akira not to cry and Akira responds with "you were crying too." We as the audience know that this isn't the case, and Ryo hasn't cried at any point in the show. It isn't until the very end, where Ryo cries over Akira's body, that we understand. Much like Ryo remembering Amon's name, Akira was somehow able to unconsciously, vocally express the memory of Ryo crying during the end of the world (when he was technically dead, no less). It's still pretty contrived but I guess it almost makes sense to me haha
Amon was referenced in the original series, there's a line where all the demons are like "hey Amon's awake!" Then Akira retorts with "There is no Amon, only Devilman!"
Crybaby was very good, but I agree with you on a lot. BIG ENDING SPOILERS They made Satan way too unsympathetic. I hated him so much by the time episode 10 came about, which was excellent, but the way the story was going meant there wasn't any catharsis. In the original, there's a tragedy in that he realises he became what he hated. In Crybaby, it's just melodrama where he cries over Akira; that made me angry. Why make us hate a character, with zero redeeming qualities, and then expect us to feel sad for him? I know this story is a tragedy but this is a mismatch of catharsis the original didn't struggle with. That said, I love everything they did with Miki in this iteration. You can call her one dimensional, but it was a dimension the show's tone needed. I was touched by her reconciliation with Miko since it felt earned. You can totally buy that she's the presence that keeps Akira hopeful no matter what else happens to him. She was a delight on screen, her online post scene was fantastic, and episode 9 just breaks me up in side, way more so than the original's events. I just wanted her and Akira to be happy, man; I'd have accepted losing the rest of humanity so long as they were alright. But this is a tragedy, isn't it?
Wasn't one of the viable reasons for these plotholes or inconsistency that satan was trapped by god and forced to experience different versions of lives where he kills the one person he loves. I just thought this was one of those dreams considering satan is the last one standing in crybaby. I think they explain this in devil lady.
Going back and watching it in English, Ryo, when he decides to head back to the tribe to explore his origins, does make a comment about how he didn't know exactly why he called out for Amon to possess Akira.
18:27 Uhh, I honestly didn't even realize that was two different characters. That explains why I was so fucking confused in regards to that "character". How does such an obvious design flaw make it into the finished product lol?
Crybaby was good, but it does have it's lion-share of issues. Namely with the pacing and how some the characters could've been developed more ...Still the best anime on Netflix, though that's not a high bar.
While I did like it I do feel like the battle with Jinman was abit meh compared to the OVA, though they do a good job with recapturing the unnerving nature of his shell, unlike with the Grimoire manga which with one panel kinda comes off more like a Cannibal Corpse cover. It's still cool though, don't get me wrong, and the art is nice but with one bit it feels like it's trying too hard and makes me laugh instead of feeling "nope, nope, nope". There are very few things that creep me out but dammit, that big demonic turtle, with his screaming shell, is up there.
Regarding the point you made about Ryo, my own explanation is a little contrived itself but I think it makes sense. Fair warning massive spoilers and all that *jazz* leggo. In real life and in the context of crybaby, the Sabbath is understood to have massive demonic influence, such that it became almost unanimously associated with Satanism. It's entirely possible that, while in the Sabbath, Ryo was unconsciously tapping into Satan. How he knew Amon's name I like to think of like this; Satan is known to be the king of, if not the most powerful demon in this universe. If we understand Satan as a king, it's entirely possible that Satan knows Amon's name and knew that this was how you draw him out. Does that turn it into a Satanis (heh) Ex Machina? Totally, but it at least explains one of the more contrived parts of the show at least for me
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I totally agree with this review. I must confess that I never read the manga or saw Devilman's OVAs. But I enjoy anime, and everything that I like (Berserk, Evangelion, blabla) has some kind of inspiration that came from Devilman. In short, though I did not know the original work, you can feel there was some points that was off, like Xenon (who was he, why did he wanna fight Devilman, thankfully this video has answered this question) or where the hell came Psycho Jenny (figure out latter that she was the secretary). I guess 2 or 3 more episodes would flash out better these matters for me, but I also have issues with the animation, specially the fight scenes, which I found they are way too dark. Some people might say this wasn't the focus of the director, but IMHO, if you wanna do something, do it right. Nonetheless... Great video, as always!
Having watched the OVAs and read the manga beforehand on your recommendation, I came out of Crybaby not really feeling the _hype_. Aside from the technical ways that it just can't compare to the OVAs, I'm not stoked about the plot. Specifically how nuts everything that has to do with Ryo is now, how poorly some stuff is communicated and how over the top certain characters act. It's also nowhere near as good of a Yuasa show as what Ping Pong the Animation was, so while I'd say it's above average, I kinda have a hard time recommending it personally. I'm definitely with you on the OVAs though, they're great, and I'm glad you recommended them to me so I got to experience a version of this story I really like this year.
After watching the first episode on a whim, I remember being apprehensive about wanting to continue. It just seemed like some exploitation show in the form of anime. After doing some light research on the source material, and even reading up on the show and it’s ending (not a detailed synopsis, mind you), it then gave me a reason to watch more just to satiate my morbid curiosity. It has faults, as you pointed out, but I still found myself liking Devilman: Crybaby as it neared the end. As convoluted as it is, I found that it made the title of “Crybaby” make sense within the context of the show itself. Especially with that last scene between Akira and Ryu.
Uh I didn’t know Ryo was Satan until the actual reveal and even then I was still pretty confused because I wasn’t expecting anything like that to end up happening in the series.
You dude should absolutely go check "Legend of the galactic heroes". it would be 100% up your alley, and if it would turn up for a "Your next favourite" i'm sure it would hype the remake even more
Also i've got to know fukumoto's works from you. Honestly, i don't know how you have yet to touch such a pearl like LOGH. Maybe for once i can help you who helped me finding some of the my next favorites
I always just assumed that Ryo knew about Amon during his study of demons in South America with the other Professor. He knew he was one of, if not, the most powerful demon and had hoped that Akira would be able to overpower his spirit to create the Devilman for his own purposes. Admittedly, this had never been much of a problem for me and I have not given it much thought.
I knew nothing about Devilman (except for that live action movie) when my friend showed me Crybaby. I liked Akira and Ryu's designs and even the art style grew on me, especially in the last few episodes. But BOY the story of the first five to six episodes was SO DAMN MESSY x.x Reading the manga afterwards really helped me to get the story straight. I just don't understand why Crybaby didn't go with the much easier-to-follow-exposition from the manga >.>
Really enjoyed crybaby despite it's flaws. Always cool to see a good source material given a spin by someone else, even if everything about it isn't "better" than the original.
I'm only here to ask a request for Mr BitHero (I'm not going to watch Crybaby mostly because while I love me some BLOODY good action, I'm not a fan of depressing shows/animes) So, Mr BitHero, are you still doing those "Devious Intent" videos? If you are, could you maybe do a video on one of the Bayonetta villains? So either Balder, Loptr/Aesir or the Angels of Paradiso. Pls?
I hope youtube doesn't take this down because of nudity, but I agree a lot of the hiccups are there. When I watched the first 3 eps I hated it because I felt like it was awful animation but then I was like the techniques are there so they know what they're doing. After a while it kinda stuck with me and I justified it by saying "Well there already are so many well done ovas they wanted to do it in an original art style" Also fuck ep 9 "let's all hug devilman" scene. It was clearly rushed and I wish they expanded on the other track character who goes good and then bad again. I love what they did with Miko and the rappers I think they're a great addition and the butterfly rap was wonderful. There's even a little short scene where the rapper and miko go to a rave so she can become a demon and when he's given drugs he doesn't take them and puts it in his pocket. It's a little detail but it shows he's a good boy and only wants to make miko happy by taking her there even if he doesn't like that stuff. Idk if you caught that or not. Anyway glad to see a new video dude :) always love the work u put in.
So your critique on the animation is literally how Misaaki Yuasa's style is. It's very controversial but he's always gone for the simplistic ugly approach. I mean look at his masterpiece Kemonozume and even Ping Pong. The only anime that has a far more consistent style, not counting his movies, was Tatami Galaxy but even that enjoyed the ugly animation and plain background at times. It's just his style and I love it but I can totally understand why it wouldn't work for people. I personally love it. It has less to do with the budget though he works wonders with low budget.
I actually really enjoyed Devilman Crybaby it was the first time I witnessed the ending and it was amazing. It's very unique, It's different and the animation isn't amazing but it's really good, I'd definitely love a video on Berserk.
[spoileroni] I thought the implication was that Ryo wasn't amnesiac in Crybaby at all. There is no scene of him regaining memories before he 'betrays' humanity like in the manga, he knew perfectly well what he was doing during the Sabbath and even had Psychogenie as his right hand at all times. The entire story of how he "found out" about demons is just bullshit to feed Akira so he won't ask questions.
from episode 10 of Crybaby "the memory of being Satan was locked away in my mind" also in episode 10 "even after Jenny took me away, i didn't cover any memory of being Satan"
Well then, it does completely contradict itself for the sake of eating the cake and having it too. A shame, I really thought I had it nailed with the canonical cycle of world being remade so that Satan can suffer more.
Crybaby the kind of presentation, where I felt the flaws contrasted with the good in such a way where the good parts shone all the brighter. Almost as if the jarring and confusing aspects were created to make it all the more enthralling. I can't say whether this was intentional or by complete fluke, it's just the impression I had.
Regarding the style, I felt that Crybaby was either - The OVA on spiked vodka red bulls - or if the animators were trying to one-up an imaginary adaption of Devilman by Nicolas Winding Refn
I have no idea what emotional death you’re talking about that they “tweened their body”? Can someone tell me who it is, and explain tweening 90 degrees, please?
Although I loved and adored the Netflix adaptation of Devilman Crybaby, however, I would rather viewed this as an retelling Devilman story instead of the original Devilman manga since the 1987/1990 Devilman OVAs are considered to be a classical masterpiece.
SPOILER Wasn't there a line where it's said that Ryu studied Demons after that incident with that Professor in Africa ? I thought that's why he knows how to summon Ammon.
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On the amon thing. Throughout the series it's suggested that amon wasn't just a random demon but an actual big deal. So i just kinda assumed that he ran into the name while researching demons. He wanted his friend to be strong enough to defeat all demons so he needed to give him the power of the strongest possible demon. Although i guess the series never really implied there was like demon lore you could study to figure that out either.
That's the best explanation I've heard. Problem is Crybaby never presented Ryo having that kind of knowledge. We know he was studying demons, but not that Ryo knew certain demons by name and powers.
@@Pan_Z I mean, that's a lot of what real-world demonology is though. A lot of the most famous books on demons - such as the Dictionnaire Infernal and Ars Goetia - are essentially giant lists of various demons and their powers.
Amon in particular has this entry in the Ars Goetia:
"The Seventh Spirit is Amon. He is a Marquis great in power, and most stern. He appeareth like a Wolf with a Serpents tail, vomiting out of his mouth flames of fire; but at the command of the Magician he putteth on the shape of a Man with Dog's teeth beset in a head like a Raven; or else like a Man with a Raven's head (simply). He telleth all things Past and to Come. He procureth feuds and reconcileth controversies between friends. He governeth 40 Legions of Spirits. "
...Even discounting that, Amon is a particularly famous demon that shows up in a lot of places
I figured the whole "Amon" things was Ryo/Satan regaining his memories. The later episode "Know Thyself" is triggered mostly by him remembering this specific event and then wondering why he even said it.
I also think elements like this and the re-creation of the world in the epilogue are supposed to references to the "time-loop" that was introduced in Devilman Lady and referenced somewhat in Violence Jack. Like Satan is unconsciously recreating the events of a past loop without even fully realizing why.
*Dire Thunders your Waifu totally agree, surprised he didn't notice there's an entire sequence explaining the 'Amon, now your chance!' scene even after watching the series twice and asking multiple people for an explanation of the scene, even though it's explained in a very pivotal moment of the series.
It actually isn't explained. Yes, it's brought up again in episode 8, but nothing was really stated as to why he "remembered".
No offense, but you can figure it all you want, and that still doesn't make it explained.
I know I’m really late (I only watched it last week, and holy fuck did I love it), but I chalked the “Amon! Nows your chance!” scene as Ryo subconsciously performing that act without even realizing he did it. Satan was creeping through the cracks of Ryo that started after the scientist/his father died. Idk, that’s just me
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Hope you all enjoy the new video. I'm pretty late on this one, but I still wanted to get my thoughts out there in a video. Currently, I'm working on another big video that I hope to get out in the next few days, so stay tuned for that. As always, this channel has no ads on any of its videos. Besides, even if I wanted to, I couldn't put ads on this video due to how much gore and nudity is in it. Same with my last Devilman video. I could censor all of this stuff to prevent an age-restriction, but I just refuse on principle. If you really want to support these videos, throw something my way on Patreon. Even a dollar is worth more than hundreds of ad impressions. Thank you. www.patreon.com/HyperBitHero
HyperBitHero do you have any idea why this is age gated
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HyperBitHero Dude you missed a major scene for ryo.
Making Akira a Devilman was part of his subconscious plan. Satan knew Amon so he lured him out. He realized this when heaven attacks earth and he say “this wasn’t part of the plan.”
Also unlike the ova there was no ancient war between heaven and demons. It’s a time loop. Heaven destroys earth and resets civilization.
Satan is reborn every time to suffer the same fate.
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Love your videos, and the attention to details and lost gem games, like Z.O.E. ANother big video? About a game or something? =)
I utterly adored this show when it came out of nowhere with such confidence and energy whilst modernizing the story in interesting ways. Sure it’s definitely not perfect and needed more context and development but I’m just thankful we got an adaptation that covered the story from beginning to end. That and the soundtrack/score is impeccable.
Way too short for the story it is trying to tell. That's the feeling I was left with.
Edit: That's a lot of criticism for a favourite.
Edit2: LMAO this is ALL criticism. This should've been "Your Next Favourite: Devilman OVA"
For me, Crybaby felt a lot more like an art film than a piece of pop culture, which is less a judgement of quality and more of presentation and content. A good amount of the art films I've seen have things like plot and character and even the simple idea of quality as their lowest priority and just kind of charge ahead with whatever content will break boundaries or contribute to their message or just enforce their mood or style, and that's very much what Crybaby felt like, a piece about mood and style and pushing boundaries; if I had to guess what the thesis statement for all of that was, it was probably to try and be as daring and shocking in the modern day with modern audiences as the original was back in the day.
Just about the closest I ever came to feeling An Emotion™ that involved Connecting™ to a character was during Miki's death, just because she came SO CLOSE to MAYBE making it, and her voice actress earned her [insert Japanese equivalent of an Oscar here] with that fucking SCREAM. I ended up sort of enjoying the weird deviations and circling back around to original plot points, because in the service of this being a piece less about plot and character and more about mood and style, it sort of reinforced the mood of absolute hopelessness- it was like the characters and even the world itself were trying desperately to twist into a different shape that could get them to a less tragic end but Fate kept pushing them down the same roads no matter what they did.
If I had to give a thesis statement to this fucking essay of a comment, it's that I found this video fascinating because I enjoyed the show for all the reasons it frustrated you simply because we were either looking for or stumbling upon different things from it.
Finally someone who talks about the flaws of Crybaby and doesn't call it a Masterpiece, don't get me wrong i loved it, but is it perfect, far from that, you pointed out how Ryo calls out for Amon even though he has amnesia, i 100% agree with you and even if you try to use the psychogenny argument, like you said, it won't feel right, when i finshed the show i said to myself "wow, this was really good" but deep inside i knew that there is definitely a lot of plotholes if i dig deeper and rewatched the whole thing, i tackled the first OVA and it was at that moment i realised "ok, i was completely biased when i watched Crybaby" the sabbath scene is like the biggest example i can think of when it comes to inconsistencies and you know why, for the art direction, i think it depends whether you like it or not, i don't have a problem with it (inb4 ryo's terrible drawing when he tells akira to come with him) but like you, i found that the OVA was superior, is it tied to budget? probably but it deserves to be criticized nonetheless , i mean looking at the sabbath scene from the OVA it allows for more dynamic action and the colors are just **mwah**👌, really enjoyed your vid and your opinion about Crybaby, it was a breath of fresh air to see someone sheds some light about the flaws, i really respect you, keep up the good work ❤
P.S: oh and the OST was great
Best Guy Ever was also fairly critical of the show around its release and didn't consider it a masterpiece. You should give his review a watch if you like this one.
1000rogueleader i haven't seen his review actually, i will give it a shot, thanks for reading my long ass comment btw, i appreciate that
+Dash Nack A good CZcams comment can be hard to find. So I try to enjoy them every now and again.
1000rogueleader Thanks dude
The manga was better than crybaby and OVA
A property using an old iteration of itself in universe as a plot device is kino as fuck.
i love crybaby as an adaptation, also really surprised you're allowed to show half of these clips
18:29 wait, those WEREN'T the same characters??? for the longest time i thought the latter was just the devilman version of the former
devilman.wikia.com/wiki/Kukun
devilman.wikia.com/wiki/Moyuru_Koda
I swear they just reused the same design they look identical lol that makes no fucking sense
Great video, mate. You put in a lot of work and I came out with one of my favorite anime ever.
The only thing this series killed it for me giving it higher than an 7.5-8 is its rushed pace imo. If the series was 16 episodes instead of 10 this wouldve been the absolute best, but as it is its great
It isn't his goodness that puts a stop to Amon's takeover, it's his iron will, his goodness is what motivates him.
I was one of those kids that cried whenever I felt a strong emotion up to highschool, most often when angered by something I felt was unfair, and even in a couple of fights, so I had no trouble at all believing Akira might be the same.
Psycho Jenny was Rio's assistant before he reconnected with Akira, and comes to Akira with the intent to show to the world that demons exist. I hadn't seen or read any Devilman before this, and I felt he was "the real bad guy" the second he pulled a gun on the punks at the dock.
Umm ill try to anwser the whole amon thing i always thought it was a barrier in his mind going down to allow the scene to happen but later on he even notice this hiccup and then bam remembers everything
Though I understand why you've chosen this as a Your Next Favorite, as you've literally explained yourself, I still think the video may have functioned better as a straight-up review. Not to say it was a bad video, and your criticism really hits home some of the problems I also had with Ryo after comparing with the manga. Idk maybe the choice of a 'Your Next Favorite' was inappropriate for the structure of the video, and I feel you could have said more or gone into more detail with a more conventional review video. Anyway I still enjoyed hearing your opinion on the new Devilman and look forward to new content.
Not only uncensored, but including almost every scene with nudity in the entire damn thing, plus a few from the OVA
You absolute madman
I'm still sad that the OVAs never got finished, they were so amazing.
Also, thank you HyperBitHero for showing me devilman, after your initial video I read the manga and watched the OVAs and just like you said, it became my next favorite.
After your first video about Devilman I decided to re check the Devilman sequels and spin offs and I have to say while you are right about most of them, Neo Devilman has aged surprisingly well, to some points even become better than the original manga, being more of a collection of stories that happened during and after the original story with various artists and authors, I say is the perfect book to end the original story.
Yea neo devilman is pretty good but it underrated af! It kinda like junji ito stories but in devilman universe.
I still prefer the ovas, it was especially hard for me to watch Crybaby after watching the ovas first. Crybaby made me only wish they finished the ovas even more.
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Ryo actually explains to the audience that he subconsciously knew his plans when he finds out what his true goals are.
Sorry, had to stop your video after 5 minutes... but I need to watch this NOW! OO
Yeah I was also confused also about the track runner that was a devilman and the guy with the shades that becomes the other miki's boyfriend, thinking they were the same guy for a few episodes.
But that plot twist at the end was amazing! The most insanse ending I've ever seen!
Wait, maybe I remember it wrong, but wasn't the whole Amon thing explained in the episode where Ryo realizes that he's Satan? Well, maybe not explained, but he definitely acknowledges that plot point.
No more uploads I was excited for more after your dmc 3 vergil video
I wish someone would hug me like Ryo hugs Akira
Also yeah flaws and all this was my first exposure to devilman and I absolutely loved it
Also I didn't know Ryo was Satan
Oh man! You're alive :D
Regarding so empathetic he cries, my dude I've seen grown ass women cry about a crooked umbrella because she felt bad that no one would buy it. Akira is mild in comparison.
I always thought that Ryo just knew the same way he knew about the Demons. He just did research.
Holy uncensored!
But I do remember the show addressing one of the flaws you listed.
:SPOILERS AHEAD:
Later in like an Episode or two before Ryo reveals he's Satan, they do reference when Ryo called out to Amon to possess Akira. Ryo was having strange memories and thought back to that incident, wondering why he had called out to Amon and how he could have possibly knew his name.
Also, I've never seen the original, so in the first episode when he calls out to Amon to possess Akira, I figured he may have known about him through his studies of demons. Later on, it's shown that nearly every demon knows of Amon, so that only supported my theory oon that.
I hated this on my first watch too, I might give it another try now.
I'm surprised how similar your problems with the show are to my own.
Hey loved the video regarding what you said about Ryo at 8:40 the way I saw it is that; he was saying things unconsciously. He was probably thinking "Whatever demon there is, possess Akira now", but started saying Amon without realizing it. I see that some Japanese media uses this writing quirk from time to time such as the KH3 Monsters INC trailer:czcams.com/video/W5CTlRKa1SE/video.html
Demonitized man: crybroke, but that tells u hyper makes vids because he enjoys them
Thank you so much for making this video. All of the flaws that you presented have been bugging me since the beggining. After all of the 10/10 masterpiece reviews i have been seeing , its nice to see someone pointing out the flaws of the show. Great video! Keep up the good work!
My explanation to why he scream Amon is more simple.. he just did research since hes a genius scientist and all and wanted to see what would happen.
One thing to know about Yuasa is that he hates overworking his staff and is constantly experimenting with ways to make the process of animation less taxing, this simple style is something hes been experimenting on and tweaking for a while.
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I personally found it weird that he does call for Amon specifically, but I chalked it up to the fact that Ryo's a super genius and prepared for Amon specifically because he was the strongest that wasn't Xenon or something.
Love your content, as always! Btw are you planning on continuing your Yakuza video series? Or have they become somewhat obsolete since the series seems to have finally caught on in the west?
BTW. Thanks to you I got started on the series and because of the series I'm now finally learning Japanese, which I wanted to do since I was a kid. So, I guess I'll indirectly have to thank you for getting me to finally fulfill one of my dreams!
Yes, I am planning on continuing those videos. I'm glad my videos had such an influence on you!
We know that The world of crybaby is cyclical and that events repeat. I think that's meant to partially explain why characters sometimes mention things they shouldn't know. The way I interpreted Ryo mentioning Amon's name during the rave scene was that a part of his Satan memories were unconsciously brought forth. Later on, when he's doing his detective work and returns to the scene of the rave, he starts to realize something's up and remembers mentioning Amon by name. This is similar to a scene we're repeatedly taken back to: when young Akira and Rio are standing in the rain over the deceased cat. Ryo is telling Akira not to cry and Akira responds with "you were crying too." We as the audience know that this isn't the case, and Ryo hasn't cried at any point in the show. It isn't until the very end, where Ryo cries over Akira's body, that we understand. Much like Ryo remembering Amon's name, Akira was somehow able to unconsciously, vocally express the memory of Ryo crying during the end of the world (when he was technically dead, no less). It's still pretty contrived but I guess it almost makes sense to me haha
How do we know that? When was it stated?
Peasham it's mentioned by psycho Jenny since she's the only one who is unaffected by God's time loop.
If she's unaffected by the time loop, why would she still keep doing the same things over and over again?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly my point
ngl i love the art style
I do not have a Netflix account, but I want to see it anyway. =)
Piracy my dude
I like to think that through his research of Demons (looking at historical documents about demons, etc), he just heard something about the Devil Amon.
I figured the whole "Amon" stuff was a product of Ryo studying demons after he finds out about their existence.
I always figured the Ryo/Amon plot's reasoning was subconscious action.
I have to check out this anime. Btw are your old reviews still available somewhere on the Internet? I wanted to rewatch your deadspace review.
Amon was referenced in the original series, there's a line where all the demons are like "hey Amon's awake!" Then Akira retorts with "There is no Amon, only Devilman!"
Hey man I recently found your videos, are your patreon goals up to date? Would love to see more from you!
Crybaby was very good, but I agree with you on a lot.
BIG ENDING SPOILERS
They made Satan way too unsympathetic. I hated him so much by the time episode 10 came about, which was excellent, but the way the story was going meant there wasn't any catharsis. In the original, there's a tragedy in that he realises he became what he hated. In Crybaby, it's just melodrama where he cries over Akira; that made me angry. Why make us hate a character, with zero redeeming qualities, and then expect us to feel sad for him? I know this story is a tragedy but this is a mismatch of catharsis the original didn't struggle with.
That said, I love everything they did with Miki in this iteration. You can call her one dimensional, but it was a dimension the show's tone needed. I was touched by her reconciliation with Miko since it felt earned. You can totally buy that she's the presence that keeps Akira hopeful no matter what else happens to him. She was a delight on screen, her online post scene was fantastic, and episode 9 just breaks me up in side, way more so than the original's events. I just wanted her and Akira to be happy, man; I'd have accepted losing the rest of humanity so long as they were alright. But this is a tragedy, isn't it?
Wasn't one of the viable reasons for these plotholes or inconsistency that satan was trapped by god and forced to experience different versions of lives where he kills the one person he loves. I just thought this was one of those dreams considering satan is the last one standing in crybaby. I think they explain this in devil lady.
Going back and watching it in English, Ryo, when he decides to head back to the tribe to explore his origins, does make a comment about how he didn't know exactly why he called out for Amon to possess Akira.
I am not HyperBitHero, I am Devilmaaaaannnn!!!
This video gave me a big rubbery one.
I'm amazed this hasn't been shut down yet considering youtube's horrible bots
RIP in peace this channel. The only old /v/idya related channel still alive is Criken.
TheGamingBrit is as alive as ever right now.
Try not accidently call
Devil Man Cry Baby with
Devil May Cry Baby!
Please make another video. You have a great perspective!
18:27 Uhh, I honestly didn't even realize that was two different characters. That explains why I was so fucking confused in regards to that "character". How does such an obvious design flaw make it into the finished product lol?
Crybaby was good, but it does have it's lion-share of issues. Namely with the pacing and how some the characters could've been developed more
...Still the best anime on Netflix, though that's not a high bar.
FMA: Brotherhood pls
I think its one of my favorite anime of the last few years due to it having blantant problems and still managed to completely wow me
LT I was just about to say that. Thank you lol
While I did like it I do feel like the battle with Jinman was abit meh compared to the OVA, though they do a good job with recapturing the unnerving nature of his shell, unlike with the Grimoire manga which with one panel kinda comes off more like a Cannibal Corpse cover. It's still cool though, don't get me wrong, and the art is nice but with one bit it feels like it's trying too hard and makes me laugh instead of feeling "nope, nope, nope". There are very few things that creep me out but dammit, that big demonic turtle, with his screaming shell, is up there.
Regarding the point you made about Ryo, my own explanation is a little contrived itself but I think it makes sense. Fair warning massive spoilers and all that *jazz* leggo.
In real life and in the context of crybaby, the Sabbath is understood to have massive demonic influence, such that it became almost unanimously associated with Satanism. It's entirely possible that, while in the Sabbath, Ryo was unconsciously tapping into Satan. How he knew Amon's name I like to think of like this; Satan is known to be the king of, if not the most powerful demon in this universe. If we understand Satan as a king, it's entirely possible that Satan knows Amon's name and knew that this was how you draw him out. Does that turn it into a Satanis (heh) Ex Machina? Totally, but it at least explains one of the more contrived parts of the show at least for me
I totally agree with this review. I must confess that I never read the manga or saw Devilman's OVAs. But I enjoy anime, and everything that I like (Berserk, Evangelion, blabla) has some kind of inspiration that came from Devilman. In short, though I did not know the original work, you can feel there was some points that was off, like Xenon (who was he, why did he wanna fight Devilman, thankfully this video has answered this question) or where the hell came Psycho Jenny (figure out latter that she was the secretary). I guess 2 or 3 more episodes would flash out better these matters for me, but I also have issues with the animation, specially the fight scenes, which I found they are way too dark. Some people might say this wasn't the focus of the director, but IMHO, if you wanna do something, do it right.
Nonetheless... Great video, as always!
The ending made me cry 😢
Literally been waiting months for this!
I missed you boo
I think what this show lacked in animation and a polished story, it made up for it in two ways: style and the FUCKING SOUNDTRACK.
Have you switched to exclusively covering anime?
Edit: Love your videos still. Just wondering if you're burnt out with games.
Nope. Next couple videos are gonna be games.
Having watched the OVAs and read the manga beforehand on your recommendation, I came out of Crybaby not really feeling the _hype_. Aside from the technical ways that it just can't compare to the OVAs, I'm not stoked about the plot. Specifically how nuts everything that has to do with Ryo is now, how poorly some stuff is communicated and how over the top certain characters act. It's also nowhere near as good of a Yuasa show as what Ping Pong the Animation was, so while I'd say it's above average, I kinda have a hard time recommending it personally.
I'm definitely with you on the OVAs though, they're great, and I'm glad you recommended them to me so I got to experience a version of this story I really like this year.
I like these videos
After watching the first episode on a whim, I remember being apprehensive about wanting to continue. It just seemed like some exploitation show in the form of anime. After doing some light research on the source material, and even reading up on the show and it’s ending (not a detailed synopsis, mind you), it then gave me a reason to watch more just to satiate my morbid curiosity. It has faults, as you pointed out, but I still found myself liking Devilman: Crybaby as it neared the end. As convoluted as it is, I found that it made the title of “Crybaby” make sense within the context of the show itself. Especially with that last scene between Akira and Ryu.
I honestly loved it. Yes it has issues but I found it to be a great time overall.
Am I the only one who caught that they designed Ryo to look like mass-shooter Dylan Roof in this?
I seriously don't understand how someone who "gets" all these flaws can look past them, but whatever. At least somebody fucking said them.
The show really has the "flawed gem" aesthetic too much for it's own good.
Uh I didn’t know Ryo was Satan until the actual reveal and even then I was still pretty confused because I wasn’t expecting anything like that to end up happening in the series.
You dude should absolutely go check "Legend of the galactic heroes". it would be 100% up your alley, and if it would turn up for a "Your next favourite" i'm sure it would hype the remake even more
Also i've got to know fukumoto's works from you. Honestly, i don't know how you have yet to touch such a pearl like LOGH. Maybe for once i can help you who helped me finding some of the my next favorites
what, the Sabbath scene was great
I always just assumed that Ryo knew about Amon during his study of demons in South America with the other Professor. He knew he was one of, if not, the most powerful demon and had hoped that Akira would be able to overpower his spirit to create the Devilman for his own purposes. Admittedly, this had never been much of a problem for me and I have not given it much thought.
Do you know the outro song in this video ? please tell me what it is if you do
I knew nothing about Devilman (except for that live action movie) when my friend showed me Crybaby. I liked Akira and Ryu's designs and even the art style grew on me, especially in the last few episodes. But BOY the story of the first five to six episodes was SO DAMN MESSY x.x Reading the manga afterwards really helped me to get the story straight. I just don't understand why Crybaby didn't go with the much easier-to-follow-exposition from the manga >.>
Really enjoyed crybaby despite it's flaws. Always cool to see a good source material given a spin by someone else, even if everything about it isn't "better" than the original.
I'm only here to ask a request for Mr BitHero (I'm not going to watch Crybaby mostly because while I love me some BLOODY good action, I'm not a fan of depressing shows/animes)
So, Mr BitHero, are you still doing those "Devious Intent" videos? If you are, could you maybe do a video on one of the Bayonetta villains? So either Balder, Loptr/Aesir or the Angels of Paradiso.
Pls?
I hope youtube doesn't take this down because of nudity, but I agree a lot of the hiccups are there. When I watched the first 3 eps I hated it because I felt like it was awful animation but then I was like the techniques are there so they know what they're doing. After a while it kinda stuck with me and I justified it by saying "Well there already are so many well done ovas they wanted to do it in an original art style" Also fuck ep 9 "let's all hug devilman" scene. It was clearly rushed and I wish they expanded on the other track character who goes good and then bad again. I love what they did with Miko and the rappers I think they're a great addition and the butterfly rap was wonderful. There's even a little short scene where the rapper and miko go to a rave so she can become a demon and when he's given drugs he doesn't take them and puts it in his pocket. It's a little detail but it shows he's a good boy and only wants to make miko happy by taking her there even if he doesn't like that stuff. Idk if you caught that or not.
Anyway glad to see a new video dude :) always love the work u put in.
So your critique on the animation is literally how Misaaki Yuasa's style is. It's very controversial but he's always gone for the simplistic ugly approach. I mean look at his masterpiece Kemonozume and even Ping Pong. The only anime that has a far more consistent style, not counting his movies, was Tatami Galaxy but even that enjoyed the ugly animation and plain background at times. It's just his style and I love it but I can totally understand why it wouldn't work for people. I personally love it. It has less to do with the budget though he works wonders with low budget.
Hope you make some new videos. They are always great!
This was possibly the most depressing thing I've ever seen.
I'm not shocked Go Nagai started making Manga because he couldn't stop shitting.
I actually really enjoyed Devilman Crybaby it was the first time I witnessed the ending and it was amazing. It's very unique, It's different and the animation isn't amazing but it's really good, I'd definitely love a video on Berserk.
no, I wasnt expecting Ryo to be fucking Satan.
Yakuza 6 video when? Just sat through all your other videos and finished up 6 last night so I'm just itching for more awesomeness.
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I thought the implication was that Ryo wasn't amnesiac in Crybaby at all. There is no scene of him regaining memories before he 'betrays' humanity like in the manga, he knew perfectly well what he was doing during the Sabbath and even had Psychogenie as his right hand at all times. The entire story of how he "found out" about demons is just bullshit to feed Akira so he won't ask questions.
from episode 10 of Crybaby "the memory of being Satan was locked away in my mind"
also in episode 10 "even after Jenny took me away, i didn't cover any memory of being Satan"
Well then, it does completely contradict itself for the sake of eating the cake and having it too. A shame, I really thought I had it nailed with the canonical cycle of world being remade so that Satan can suffer more.
Did this man do a demolition d?
Crybaby the kind of presentation, where I felt the flaws contrasted with the good in such a way where the good parts shone all the brighter. Almost as if the jarring and confusing aspects were created to make it all the more enthralling.
I can't say whether this was intentional or by complete fluke, it's just the impression I had.
Regarding the style, I felt that Crybaby was either
- The OVA on spiked vodka red bulls
- or if the animators were trying to one-up an imaginary adaption of Devilman by Nicolas Winding Refn
I have no idea what emotional death you’re talking about that they “tweened their body”? Can someone tell me who it is, and explain tweening 90 degrees, please?
Although I loved and adored the Netflix adaptation of Devilman Crybaby, however, I would rather viewed this as an retelling Devilman story instead of the original Devilman manga since the 1987/1990 Devilman OVAs are considered to be a classical masterpiece.
ngl my jaw dropped when I found out Ryu was satan
What if the show isn't an adaptation and is actually another cycle in the infinite loop Satan and Amon are trapped in?
SPOILER
Wasn't there a line where it's said that Ryu studied Demons after that incident with that Professor in Africa ?
I thought that's why he knows how to summon Ammon.
EL HOMBRE DEMONIO: LLORA BEBÉ
Any chance they will do a Violence Jack anime in the same style or at all?
Does anyone know the name of the outro song please tell me
I'm not going to watch this video because I'm paranoid about spoilers (sorry)
But how's the dub?