Man, you need to look up documents explaining why women were admitted to asylums. Reasons included such noted psychiatric symptoms as menstrual pain, disobeying a male relation, reading, and cancer.
Oh yes, we women have always had to toe the line. Nowadays, it's a longer list than ever. We have to be hard and tough to make it in the work world. Well-read and educated. Physically fit, so we can cook and clean like dynamos. But most of all, any physical imperfections must be altered. We have to look a certain way. Especially keeping our weight down, way down. If not, we are not wanted anywhere.
For centuries when a woman was very unwell they always blamed it on the imbalance of the bodies humours ie they were fascinated by the fluids in the body like bile, blood and the other humours but more importantly when females of any age it was a imbalance of the womb causing a mass hysteria they actually had doctors that stimulated the females cliterous as to them once this was done it relieved them off the efflicted illness they had. But even now in modern era if females become very unwell there being told it's there womb that is causing problem. Just about anything and everything would cause oneself to be admitted to asylum where patients were treated like essentially like guinea pigs and tortured endlessly and in most cases needlessly and unnecessary I don't think they knew what they were doing or that it was horrendously debilitating damage they were inflicting. From the ones born brain damaged, the epileptic, lonely, elderly and frail, hysteria and melloncoly, depression various stages, alcohol and drug addictions, various degrees of learning difficulties who were forcibly experimented on fully conscious as well as sterilised, males were chemically castrated the biters would have all there teeth pulled out again fully conscious strapped down that's how sadistic and extremely very evil these quakes were even twins or triplets were experimented on no one was exempt even those with tuberculosis were tortured and experimented on. Famous poet Robert Ferguson was slightly drunk tripped fell smashed his head taken to asylum and chained up because he was combative, violent and behaving very intoxicated back then they didn't realise all the symptoms were because of the result of very sever head trauma he died in the asylum his friend who was pyschitrist Andrew Duncan who opened the Royal Edinburgh in his memory as he was disgusted with way his friend was treated it's so very sad who on knows we may even have ancestors tortured in these vile places
i was just thinking how i wouldnt mind being strapped to a rocking chair as long as i had a good book to read. but if they are sending women there for reading then i dont think theyd give me one
Now the public is the vulnerable target as the mentally ill are living in the streets and destroying cities with waste and violence. SF, Seattle, and LA are three examples.
“It appears that the patient is showing signs of mental distress. What should we do doc?” “Uhhh... have we tried beating them senseless, restraining them, and blasting them with extremely high pressurized water?”
Those family members were often locked in the attic or basement to hide them from other people. Thankfully so much has changed but we still have a very long way to go.
14:47 I was studying a the embroidery a bit just to see her mind and maybe get to know her. She said she liked grapes. She wanted to get married - in yellow you can see embroidery about the preacher asking a bride to take her husband. Would you like napkin? Yes I would like a napkin. - she is reminiscing a moment when someone asked her that question and she remembers their kindness. Blue skies make her happy. Gray skies make her sad. There’s so much in there.
She records entire conversations. Her: can I have a glass of something to drink? Presumably nurse: what kind of will you have? Her: white chocolate. I take chocolate Nurse: no what kind of Drink, grape are(or) strawberry? Her: I take grape Probably nurse: would you like a napkins? Her: Yes I would like a napkins. Thank you, that will be all. Nurse: Your welcome Her: *she’s the best (Top middle) She sings “Santa clause is coming to town” from memory. (Mid-left) Just underneath she remembers her wedding vows. She records her conversation with (I assume) her husband as she leaves to come here. I cant really make it out as it seems to be a rambling argument that she’s afraid someone will overhear, but her strongest emotions are clear. “I’m sorry. I want you. Wait for me. I’m lonely.” (mid right)
My mother was in a mental institution in the early 70's and I remember her telling me that the way the hospital tried to get a patient's frustration out of them or whatever you would call it was by popping them with wet rags. I was little and I always hated going to visit her. I remember once seeing a patient being wheeled out of shock treatment. The person was shackled to the gurney and they were moaning and talking incoherently. Scared the crap out of me. I was like 9 or 10.
Seeing this and knowing that I would've probably been subjected to this cruelty if I'd have lived back then truly sends chills down my spine. It's awful
My family is like 88% women and my close family (two sisters grandma two aunts and two moms) would have like one person that probably wouldn't end up in the asylum. I would because I have anxiety, one of my sisters would because she has ADHD and had depression, my two mom's would because they're gay, my grandma probably would because she doesn't take anybody crap lol and my two aunts would, without a doubt, be there because one is bipolar and the other one is gay so that means her wife would be there too. So basically my whole family would end up in an asylum 🤡🤡🤡
phrysea - how is this not horrifying? Systemic serious abuse of people with very real health conditions is beyond horrifying. That’d be like beating the shit out of someone because they had seasonal allergies.
@@thecraftycyborg9024 while yhea they where horrifying i think we can agree that most of these teraphies are 100 years old the newest and no one really knew how the mind worked (and to an extent.. even now we dont know how it works completly). so they just used extreme therapies without having any idea because at the time there wasnt really any way to test how things really worked.and also most of these therapies where influenced by beliefs like demons, possesion. etc.
My great grandfather was admitted to the mental ward because he had seizures. During his stay, he would be beaten, tied to a chair for days, locked in a room without food or even a blanket to sleep on, and subjected to shock therapy. His father removed him immediately when he realized the bruises and mistreatment going on. He was one of the lucky ones :/
💔 ! God is taking care of them now I hope they can finelly be free & happy. Their so called 'care takers' get their just dues. Alot of folks were raped in the downstairs tunnels.
@@malynmendez613 supposedly someone had said that it wasn’t rape, and it was her asking for a grape drink, and it was her expressing a moment of someone showing kindness to her, although it’s a big debate depending
Literally ANY reason could be used, including simply being tired of said person. Don't want to see or deal with them anymore? Claim they're insane, and they're taken away.
I guess. I dunno whether to be angry that they didn’t just give the guy a new wheelchair, but maybe it was a funding issue (still a problem). At least they gave it to him in the end.
@@dmreddragon6 That is literally what happened in some of these cases, they were seen as objects to study rather than people in need of help. Then there's of course the "treatments" brought on by religion, some of which sadly is still used today either by some of the people who believe in their deity over proven medical science or by some people in third world countries where many unfortunately simply don't know any better and/or don't have any other options.
humans are monsters, we are monsters. who in the right mind created the bronze bull? if you dont know the bronze bull was a torture device, the victim was placed into a bronze bull the bronze bull is placed over a fire and the bull has an open mouth, when a victim screams the noice people hear from the outsode sounded like a bull in agony
@@froggy-boi7560 Wait, ain’t the bronze bull like a bible story and never a legit thing tho? Not saying that the act of boiling was never a thing, just the bronze bull.
When my dad was in medical school long ago his class went to a psychiatric ward, and they watched a man get shock treatment. He said it was the most barbaric and sickening thing he ever witnessed, and the man unfortunately died. Very very disturbing.
Sounds like the doctors needed the damn help....im a psychology major and it still makes my guts churn when I see these old techniques. Great video btw!!
For many people our only way to come in contact with the true horrors of life are through fictional entertainment. We forget the truth that another person's suffering, is not just our story to tell and glaze over. I'm guilty of this, too.
+Abalone People who've experienced tragic events make jokes about them to ease their pain. It's silly to consider entertainment of these painful things to not be empathetic.
Void of Space and Time You're not really understanding what I'm saying. I understand what you mean, but you're missing my message entirely. Not everyone is actually empathetic. To some people it is just a joke, and it's horrible.
Living with a family member who has bipolar disorder, seeing these early ‘cures’, ‘restraints’, and ‘therapies’ deeply saddens me. If we weren’t living in these modern times my family member would’ve most likely been subjected to these things. It breaks my heart that mental diseases and disorders were so misunderstood and no one back then took the time to understand them.
I believe there was a genuine idea that if you punish someone for their mental illness, they won't do it again. There was a hospital near me that got shut down about 30 years ago because they would put lemon juice in people's self harm scars to make them feel agony so they wouldn't do it again. It's truly sad and heartbreaking.
that’s actually insane on the hospitals part and the people who actually did that. their reasoning is so flawed too. “hey this person was hurting so bad inside that they physically caused themselves more pain to either run away from their mental agony or express it. so let’s cause them more physical pain :)”
As someone who has been in a mental health institution, this is terrifying. We actually went, as a unit, to a mental health museum near by because the facility was on a large plot with surrounding rehabs, criminally insane facilities, etc. We all laughed because we knew a hundred years ago we’d all of been in straight jackets.
My friends grandma actually worked there in the early 70's. Her grandma saw water torture, helped in electric shock therapy, and once even hid a dead body in a closet. It's crazy how far mental health facilities and the way we take care of those with mental health issues have come.
Me too 😂 made my mentally ill face smile, too - somehow it wasn’t offensive to me at all - it sounded like he was 100% sticking it to the person “treating” the patient
I know, right? I love to sew and have accidentally pricked myself in the finger numerous times, which hurts a lot. I can’t imagine how badly it must have hurt to swallow all of those needles and other sharp objects
I'll admit that I have bipolar disorder and I am so grateful that I didn't grow up in the "good old days" I would not have survived the torture the poor people went through for being so called insane
Its so sad looking through the comments saying these should be more common these days and that's it's dangerous for mentally ill people to be "out on the streets" these people need to realize that most of us aren't trying to hurt you we are trying to get better we are sick and we can only do our best to help ourselves
Most those comments are about those so sick they can't make good decisions. No offense I don't want the violent level 13 schizophrenic with violent delusions out on the street because they feem themselves not sick when they're a safety risk to everyone and themselves. Not everyone is able to make decisions that aren't massively harmful due to mental illness
@@ayajade6683 not everybody with a mental illness is dangerous and that's why generalizing people with mental illnesses is harmful, because people just assume all people who have a mental illness is going to kill you. I know almost no people who are all perfect mentally and I still don't know a single person who is dangerous
@@littletaryn4899 I'm aware of that considering I have two mental illnesses myself. But there's plenty that can't make decisions for themselves who can't follow doctor's orders and need places like state hospitals. Those are the ones that shouldn't get an option in their treatment considering their decision making skills are impaired.
The thing rod is placed incorrectly in the reproduction skull shown in this video. It actually went in through the cheekbone - knocking out some teeth. The trajectory destroyed his eye socket and then exited through the top of his skull.
I feel very fortunate to live now. I would've died after giving birth to my first child because I had an infection to my uterus a couple of days after he was born. After watching this I realize it I had lived I probably would of ended up in an mental institution due to having depression and anxiety. Not a good thought.
Probably people who don't understand mental illness and have the privilege of never having a loved one who suffered with it. Ignorant uneducated people lol
I would have voted the self, because I understood it as 'who is in charge of getting you the help you need'. And well half of the people were in these institutions not on their own terms. So that's what I thought it meant...
@@albundy8919 one of the things that happened was in the hall with the rocking chairs, one of them started to rock. We saw a shadow of a man that seemed to follow us.
It's so cool you went here, I'm in Springfield. But I went to that museum when I was younger. It's an awesome place, though when I visited I was around 12 when I got to the morgue section I had to walk out and catch my breath. It's a heavy place to visit, the little museums inside seem newer and meant to lighten the mood a little because seeing the "treatments" and reading about the patients and reading some of their words really sets in hard in that place. A really great museum though and I'm glad you went! ^_^
Hospitals still use the restrainers. I know because I was restrained for a whole day just because I wouldn't cooperate. (Cooperate with nurses putting needles all over my body everyday all day)
Sadly there's two types of people who go into the pyschiatric career. People who want to help and people who want authority over people they can call delusional.
Don’t apologize for that epic speech! That was a wonderful view of how people should work together to make a greater America! “Find what we do agree with and work backwards from there”- no wiser words have been spoken, great job!
Surprisingly, what I learned from this was that the Smashing Pumpkins basically stole 100 yr old lyrics from a man with extreme temporal lobe trauma. 🤘Mr. Gage. The original headbanger!
The DSM suggests to this day that if you feel like you’re getting out of control or having an episode, you can take a cold shower. It’s supposed to make you feel better, but I prefer a warm one.
I actually went here on a field trip during my Senior year of high school. It was for my Psychology class and it was one of the most interesting experiences I've ever had.
Most of them look they’ve come from the kind of shops where you get full bodied mannequins to display women’s clothing but only half mannequins for displaying men’s shirts and jeans, so that’s probably why.
In the state of a severe panic attack it has taken me all my physical strength to calm down and stop crying and freaking out. Someone as much as raising their voice would send me into a further state of panic. I can't imagine the fear of already being manic then being tortured on top of it.
Nurse: our patient is hearing voices again! What do we do? Doctor asf: *have we tried stepping on them, beating them unconscious, spinning them around constantly and and tying them down?*
@@coconutbeefsoup insert photo of modern slaves all over the 3rd world & some privileged jackass waving his virtue flag and totally ignoring REAL ISSUES, because they would expose him for the obtuse ass he truly is.
My great uncle was a patient at the St Joe State Hospital. It was after having a diagnosis of syphilis. Interesting museum to say the least. Was on the creeped out side last time I was there
I wonder if this museum was used for reference for the video game, "The Blackstone Chronicles"... Where you search an old mental asylum to try to rescue your son who had been kidnapped and held there. To hopefully rescue the boy before harm was done to him. There are pictures of treatment contraptions just like the ones in the museum. Thank you for finding such interesting museums and attractions and sharing your experience with us. You're awesome! 😊
/completely skates over the fact that this was real and horrific for some fabricated TV show/ I mean, AHS does look good but that's like looking at a house on fire and thinking "Wait! They have a pop vinyl collection!"
I work with special needs children and adults and they were onto something with the spinning. A lot of our autistic clients love pressure and love to spin… we have chairs with doors so they can spin as long as they want… it’s for recovery to give them some stimulus.
I feel so fortunate to live in a time when we know fairly good ways to treat mental illnesses. I cannot imagine how people dealt with such conditions back when such they were not fully understood and chalked up to all sorts of phenomena.
I came here back when I was 16 with my grandma and great aunt, it was creepy AF but fascinating. My grandma and most of her siblings were born in St. Jo, and I found a picture tucked in a back corner of the hospital staff back in the 30's and there was my great grandfather. It was the coolest thing. The museum let us buy a copy of the picture.
My sister is autistic and she was in behavioral therapy when she was young so probably 15 years ago or so. The spinning swing seems like a primitive version of one that they had along with other things like a ball pit, actual swings, and a very attentive, loving staff. She LOVED that swing and would probably never get off if it were up to her. At one point her twin, who was super jealous got a turn after months of begging and hated it so much, but it wasn't for her. My sister also loved being in small spaces and would stay in them for hours, so the cage wouldn't be that bad for her. She loves balancing too, so the wheel, obviously modified so it is open like a hamster wheel and she can get off when she was, would actually be really fun for her. While some of these treatments seem inhumane, the doctors were just trying their best with the little that they knew, and they got a lot of things right.
“Not to worry ma’am, we have the latest technology concerning the treatment of the mentally ill. What’s that? Oh! That is the tranquilizer stick, helps our patients sleep very well”
Man, you need to look up documents explaining why women were admitted to asylums. Reasons included such noted psychiatric symptoms as menstrual pain, disobeying a male relation, reading, and cancer.
Oh yes, we women have always had to toe the line. Nowadays, it's a longer list than ever. We have to be hard and tough to make it in the work world. Well-read and educated. Physically fit, so we can cook and clean like dynamos. But most of all, any physical imperfections must be altered. We have to look a certain way. Especially keeping our weight down, way down. If not, we are not wanted anywhere.
For centuries when a woman was very unwell they always blamed it on the imbalance of the bodies humours ie they were fascinated by the fluids in the body like bile, blood and the other humours but more importantly when females of any age it was a imbalance of the womb causing a mass hysteria they actually had doctors that stimulated the females cliterous as to them once this was done it relieved them off the efflicted illness they had. But even now in modern era if females become very unwell there being told it's there womb that is causing problem. Just about anything and everything would cause oneself to be admitted to asylum where patients were treated like essentially like guinea pigs and tortured endlessly and in most cases needlessly and unnecessary I don't think they knew what they were doing or that it was horrendously debilitating damage they were inflicting.
From the ones born brain damaged, the epileptic, lonely, elderly and frail, hysteria and melloncoly, depression various stages, alcohol and drug addictions, various degrees of learning difficulties who were forcibly experimented on fully conscious as well as sterilised, males were chemically castrated the biters would have all there teeth pulled out again fully conscious strapped down that's how sadistic and extremely very evil these quakes were even twins or triplets were experimented on no one was exempt even those with tuberculosis were tortured and experimented on. Famous poet Robert Ferguson was slightly drunk tripped fell smashed his head taken to asylum and chained up because he was combative, violent and behaving very intoxicated back then they didn't realise all the symptoms were because of the result of very sever head trauma he died in the asylum his friend who was pyschitrist Andrew Duncan who opened the Royal Edinburgh in his memory as he was disgusted with way his friend was treated it's so very sad who on knows we may even have ancestors tortured in these vile places
Enjoying sex. Something that is still seen as sinful today
i was just thinking how i wouldnt mind being strapped to a rocking chair as long as i had a good book to read. but if they are sending women there for reading then i dont think theyd give me one
They also got classed as psychotic for even letting out gasses(don’t know how true that is but I read it in a old admission book from a website)
These were tools for sadists. The mentally ill were the most vulnerable targets.
And more often then not it was people who didn’t fit into societal norms.
@@vixa__J bc of course no one would believe them or care that there missing sadly
Now the public is the vulnerable target as the mentally ill are living in the streets and destroying cities with waste and violence. SF, Seattle, and LA are three examples.
JJ G I doubt that
@@jerryemt2001 have some fucking empathy you pice of shit
“It appears that the patient is showing signs of mental distress. What should we do doc?”
“Uhhh... have we tried beating them senseless, restraining them, and blasting them with extremely high pressurized water?”
"And remember we can always cut a window into his skull if we need that to fall back on. "
Mental patient: aAAAaAaaaaAaàaAaahhhhhhhhHhHHHHHhhhh ;
“Hey that’s a great idea! Let’s also had some shocks with high voltage!”
“Hey you know what.. let’s also remove the skin on their fingers!
“So... anything else?”
Some old people: "Bah. We didn't have these fancy things like autism and adhd back in my day."
You did, but those people were never seen again.
Those family members were often locked in the attic or basement to hide them from other people. Thankfully so much has changed but we still have a very long way to go.
Actually, persons with autism and ADHD wouldn't automatically get sent to an asylum. Many would have been simply written off as idiots.
@@SirBlackReeds true
@@SirBlackReeds oh to be a woman with ADHD in the 19th century and be the town's certified dumbass
Ok boomer
14:47 I was studying a the embroidery a bit just to see her mind and maybe get to know her.
She said she liked grapes.
She wanted to get married - in yellow you can see embroidery about the preacher asking a bride to take her husband.
Would you like napkin? Yes I would like a napkin. - she is reminiscing a moment when someone asked her that question and she remembers their kindness.
Blue skies make her happy. Gray skies make her sad.
There’s so much in there.
Lolmaemae wow thank you
It's says rape right after not pouting. Could that have been her punishment? If so that f*cked.
@@Ole_CornPop I saw that too. He pointed it out.
Edit: it says “you better watch out, you better not pout” and “I take grape”.
She records entire conversations.
Her: can I have a glass of something to drink?
Presumably nurse: what kind of will you have?
Her: white chocolate. I take chocolate
Nurse: no what kind of Drink, grape are(or) strawberry?
Her: I take grape
Probably nurse: would you like a napkins?
Her: Yes I would like a napkins. Thank you, that will be all.
Nurse: Your welcome
Her: *she’s the best
(Top middle)
She sings “Santa clause is coming to town” from memory. (Mid-left)
Just underneath she remembers her wedding vows.
She records her conversation with (I assume) her husband as she leaves to come here. I cant really make it out as it seems to be a rambling argument that she’s afraid someone will overhear, but her strongest emotions are clear. “I’m sorry. I want you. Wait for me. I’m lonely.” (mid right)
Quite sure It's not napkin. Its anapins
Anapin RT is an antipsychotic drug :/
My mother was in a mental institution in the early 70's and I remember her telling me that the way the hospital tried to get a patient's frustration out of them or whatever you would call it was by popping them with wet rags. I was little and I always hated going to visit her. I remember once seeing a patient being wheeled out of shock treatment. The person was shackled to the gurney and they were moaning and talking incoherently. Scared the crap out of me. I was like 9 or 10.
Wow, sounds like an awful experience, even in older ages. Hope that your doing well
Dam... honestly seeing that would mess me up..
shock treatment is labotamy
B. Vaughn oh my god..
Holy hell! I'm so sorry your mom was in there and that you witnessed that.
Seeing this and knowing that I would've probably been subjected to this cruelty if I'd have lived back then truly sends chills down my spine. It's awful
lavender fields but at least we don’t get tortured into submission
fields yeah, I felt that way too. I hope you have recovered now?I was in a psychiatric hospital and it wasn't pleasant
My family is like 88% women and my close family (two sisters grandma two aunts and two moms) would have like one person that probably wouldn't end up in the asylum. I would because I have anxiety, one of my sisters would because she has ADHD and had depression, my two mom's would because they're gay, my grandma probably would because she doesn't take anybody crap lol and my two aunts would, without a doubt, be there because one is bipolar and the other one is gay so that means her wife would be there too. So basically my whole family would end up in an asylum 🤡🤡🤡
@mysk horizon it sure does Ong and most people don't even know that but I do because I'm woke
Vanessa Abaciry
Same
This is both fascinating and horrifying.
It's just fascinating to me
phrysea - how is this not horrifying? Systemic serious abuse of people with very real health conditions is beyond horrifying. That’d be like beating the shit out of someone because they had seasonal allergies.
@@thecraftycyborg9024 while yhea they where horrifying i think we can agree that most of these teraphies are 100 years old the newest and no one really knew how the mind worked (and to an extent.. even now we dont know how it works completly). so they just used extreme therapies without having any idea because at the time there wasnt really any way to test how things really worked.and also most of these therapies where influenced by beliefs like demons, possesion. etc.
Fascifying
Yep
My great grandfather was admitted to the mental ward because he had seizures. During his stay, he would be beaten, tied to a chair for days, locked in a room without food or even a blanket to sleep on, and subjected to shock therapy. His father removed him immediately when he realized the bruises and mistreatment going on. He was one of the lucky ones :/
Damn… :’(
The things people do to those in need under the guise of medicine is beyond sick.
The patient who couldn’t speak sowed “I am lonely” into the quilt. Heartbreaking really.
She also sowed rape on there as well. I was like this women was trying to tell y'all something yet. Here is her words and no justice is so sad.
Very
💔 ! God is taking care of them now I hope they can finelly be free & happy. Their so called 'care takers' get their just dues.
Alot of folks were raped in the downstairs tunnels.
@@malynmendez613 supposedly someone had said that it wasn’t rape, and it was her asking for a grape drink, and it was her expressing a moment of someone showing kindness to her, although it’s a big debate depending
@@ghostcityshelton9378 i love your comment
My heart goes out to those who were tortured and killed in these crappy so-called mental health places.
his voice is so calming and funny he would be a good teacher
Bruhh ur too beautiful and cute 😵❤️I hope I made your day. 😊
the name is adore Yes....until he goes into haunted houses! LMAO I love him! :)
@@havilavi472 Mans out here shooting his shot lmfaooo
@@havilavi472 b
@@havilavi472 my man shooting his shot right now looks like you missed😂
The people that served out these “treatments” sounded crazier than the patients themselves.
True
Half the patients weren't even crazy
Please don't refer to mentally ill people as "crazy."
@@MariahTheElusiveSongbird I apologise. And I understand!
You have to be a certain kind of crazy to think that coming up with sick new ways to torture vulnerable people somehow makes you the sane one
its even more disturbing when you realize that tons of people who werent even mentally ill got locked away for such weird, stupid, and common things
including speaking a different language
Literally ANY reason could be used, including simply being tired of said person.
Don't want to see or deal with them anymore?
Claim they're insane, and they're taken away.
I'd be pissed too if I had a rod go through my head lol
The cigarette box story warmed my heart!
I guess. I dunno whether to be angry that they didn’t just give the guy a new wheelchair, but maybe it was a funding issue (still a problem). At least they gave it to him in the end.
Candice Frost maybe he didn’t /they didn’t know he needed a new wheelchair?
This is absolutely disgusting, don't see how anyone saw these as humane.
It was the early days of psychology.
Humane was different before
Truly Disgusting That Some People Would Do This Horrible
Seems that they stopped seeing the patients as humans. Instead they were something to study, experimanted on, and control.
@@dmreddragon6 That is literally what happened in some of these cases, they were seen as objects to study rather than people in need of help.
Then there's of course the "treatments" brought on by religion, some of which sadly is still used today either by some of the people who believe in their deity over proven medical science or by some people in third world countries where many unfortunately simply don't know any better and/or don't have any other options.
When people pull together these ideas thinking that they are 'helpful' you start to wonder who's really crazy. . .
I don’t think that they wanted to help... sadists.
@@idkwhattoputhere4695 they most diff didn't wanna help anyone
What would you have done in the early days of psychology without the gift of hindsight, hmm?
humans are monsters, we are monsters.
who in the right mind created the bronze bull?
if you dont know the bronze bull was a torture device, the victim was placed into a bronze bull the bronze bull is placed over a fire and the bull has an open mouth, when a victim screams the noice people hear from the outsode sounded like a bull in agony
@@froggy-boi7560 Wait, ain’t the bronze bull like a bible story and never a legit thing tho?
Not saying that the act of boiling was never a thing, just the bronze bull.
nurse: DR THE PATIENT IS DELUSIONAL AGAIN WHAT DO WE DO?
doctor: *have you tried beating him unconsious?*
"No, but what if we try a restraint cage?"
@@toucan5933 or maybe even put them in a big hamster weel?
“Well now that the patient is unconscious, they’re technically no longer having their delusions 🤔…”
“Dammit Doctor, you brilliant bastard!”
Modern tranquilizers: Medicine/Pills
Past tranquilizers: Big sticc
why did this make me laugh
its so bad and so gruesome when you think about it but it just made me chuckle
Also restrainant tools the are quiet deadly XD
*B O N K*
I feel guilty that this made me laugh
Chemical lobotomies for everyone!
Me: I want cute cats and dogs on my recommendation.
CZcams: how about a psychiatric museum?
😂😭
Some of those 'treatments' look straight out of some bdsm porno
cj222100 hawt
Kinky ;)
*oh no...*
.....and not a medieval torture chamber? Do you see the problem here?
That's where a lot of the ideas for BDSM came from, insane asylums and medieval torture.
She probably ate metal because she had an iron deficiency and rocks and dirt because she needed some kind of calcium or vitamin that was in the soil
Yummy
Or she just had pica, not everything is super complicated
@@flext-rex8284 r/wooosh
That's actually a thing. People who are deficient in iron tend to chew ice. I did, before I was diagnosed and I learned that it was a thing.
BoxOfCakes I used to do it too! Now they give me pills to chew during lunch
When my dad was in medical school long ago his class went to a psychiatric ward, and they watched a man get shock treatment. He said it was the most barbaric and sickening thing he ever witnessed, and the man unfortunately died. Very very disturbing.
@killah goose my dad passed away in 2018, he was 80.
That sounds like a traumatizing experience
Sounds like the doctors needed the damn help....im a psychology major and it still makes my guts churn when I see these old techniques. Great video btw!!
Good video. But somewhat hard to watch. This was real life. Not a movie.
May the rest of your life be joyful! 💔
For many people our only way to come in contact with the true horrors of life are through fictional entertainment. We forget the truth that another person's suffering, is not just our story to tell and glaze over. I'm guilty of this, too.
+Abalone
People who've experienced tragic events make jokes about them to ease their pain. It's silly to consider entertainment of these painful things to not be empathetic.
Michael Rhoadarmer yes I concur
Void of Space and Time You're not really understanding what I'm saying. I understand what you mean, but you're missing my message entirely.
Not everyone is actually empathetic. To some people it is just a joke, and it's horrible.
Living with a family member who has bipolar disorder, seeing these early ‘cures’, ‘restraints’, and ‘therapies’ deeply saddens me. If we weren’t living in these modern times my family member would’ve most likely been subjected to these things. It breaks my heart that mental diseases and disorders were so misunderstood and no one back then took the time to understand them.
Illness* not disease. A disease implies that something is transmittable
I believe there was a genuine idea that if you punish someone for their mental illness, they won't do it again. There was a hospital near me that got shut down about 30 years ago because they would put lemon juice in people's self harm scars to make them feel agony so they wouldn't do it again. It's truly sad and heartbreaking.
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that’s actually insane on the hospitals part and the people who actually did that. their reasoning is so flawed too. “hey this person was hurting so bad inside that they physically caused themselves more pain to either run away from their mental agony or express it. so let’s cause them more physical pain :)”
As someone who has been in a mental health institution, this is terrifying. We actually went, as a unit, to a mental health museum near by because the facility was on a large plot with surrounding rehabs, criminally insane facilities, etc. We all laughed because we knew a hundred years ago we’d all of been in straight jackets.
My friends grandma actually worked there in the early 70's. Her grandma saw water torture, helped in electric shock therapy, and once even hid a dead body in a closet. It's crazy how far mental health facilities and the way we take care of those with mental health issues have come.
Humans are the most vicious and deadly beasts on the planet.
So sad for all the victims
Nah just men and your a victim 👻
You must remember we did not understand the mind the way we do today
Marshmallow Marsh I think you’ll find that back then they thought what’s now known as “torture” was treatment
Marshmallow Marsh yeah they did some fucked up shit
I know right I can feels god rage
I cracked up when he said “if you get sick of looking at ...their.... mentally ill face “ 😂😂😂
Me too 😂 made my mentally ill face smile, too - somehow it wasn’t offensive to me at all - it sounded like he was 100% sticking it to the person “treating” the patient
Hey Jacob! I have a mental disorder and i'm so happy i live now and not back then. Very interesting video. Well done! X from the Netherlands
ok boomer
Right!? Mental Illness treatment has come a long way! Hello from the UK!
@chase griffin A good filter helps with hat but thank you
@Rei Mation YAY! Always nice to see! I love this guys vids :)
i can't imagine how much pain that women with pica must have been in 😣
I know, right? I love to sew and have accidentally pricked myself in the finger numerous times, which hurts a lot. I can’t imagine how badly it must have hurt to swallow all of those needles and other sharp objects
I'll admit that I have bipolar disorder and I am so grateful that I didn't grow up in the "good old days" I would not have survived the torture the poor people went through for being so called insane
I will always see two bears highfiving in that Rorschach blot
Me too
Fallout new Vegas anyone
me? a very logical interpretation would be 2 bears with their kids, and they're arguing about divorce and custody and these and those
@Chase Bristow and dude, wrong video
Chase Bristow
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Its so sad looking through the comments saying these should be more common these days and that's it's dangerous for mentally ill people to be "out on the streets" these people need to realize that most of us aren't trying to hurt you we are trying to get better we are sick and we can only do our best to help ourselves
Most those comments are about those so sick they can't make good decisions. No offense I don't want the violent level 13 schizophrenic with violent delusions out on the street because they feem themselves not sick when they're a safety risk to everyone and themselves. Not everyone is able to make decisions that aren't massively harmful due to mental illness
@@ayajade6683 not everybody with a mental illness is dangerous and that's why generalizing people with mental illnesses is harmful, because people just assume all people who have a mental illness is going to kill you. I know almost no people who are all perfect mentally and I still don't know a single person who is dangerous
@@littletaryn4899 I'm aware of that considering I have two mental illnesses myself. But there's plenty that can't make decisions for themselves who can't follow doctor's orders and need places like state hospitals. Those are the ones that shouldn't get an option in their treatment considering their decision making skills are impaired.
Good old Phineas Gage skull is in Boston Mass. at the Warren anatomical museum
Too bad its closed for renovation until spring 2021. :(
The thing rod is placed incorrectly in the reproduction skull shown in this video. It actually went in through the cheekbone - knocking out some teeth. The trajectory destroyed his eye socket and then exited through the top of his skull.
Even though the real skull of Phineas Gage is in Warren Anatomical Museum
The replica is still scary to look at knowing the fact a metal rod hit him
I feel very fortunate to live now. I would've died after giving birth to my first child because I had an infection to my uterus a couple of days after he was born.
After watching this I realize it I had lived I probably would of ended up in an mental institution due to having depression and anxiety.
Not a good thought.
Fascinating video. As you say, many of those 'treatments' would just cause further trauma, thereby making them worse, not better.
Why would anyone say It's up to the mentally ill to take care of themselves? some people are just heartless.
Prinz Nezz
Probably Republicans
Prinz Nezz that’s reality for u
@@Name-ps9fx 🤡🤡
Probably people who don't understand mental illness and have the privilege of never having a loved one who suffered with it. Ignorant uneducated people lol
I would have voted the self, because I understood it as 'who is in charge of getting you the help you need'. And well half of the people were in these institutions not on their own terms. So that's what I thought it meant...
Most of those "treatments" are giving me anxiety just watching the video. I am extremely claustrophobic.
Me too 😬😖
Yea me too, this is so terrifying
The way my heart sank just upon seeing the “client cannot refuse” stamp
:(( it makes me sick seeing how these so called professionals treated their patients. I 100% believe they enjoyed torturing them
A friend and I went there several years ago and had an interesting experience. It is haunted.
Becky Jensen Baker can you explain the experience? im curious
@@albundy8919 one of the things that happened was in the hall with the rocking chairs, one of them started to rock. We saw a shadow of a man that seemed to follow us.
Becky Jensen Baker thanks for the reply. thats pretty scary
I had an experience there too. definitely haunted.
Victoria Schmidt can i ask what your experience was too?
*looking at all the metal and rocks* “Imagine eating all those! Ugh!”
Me: *Albert Fish flashbacks* Could be worse I guess.
Oh god don't remind me of this guy 😣😔
@@enderman_boy18 I was about to comment the exact same thing!!!😫😖😖
Who is albert
Demonetization
You really don’t wanna know...
Demonetization yea, it will give you bad nightmares trust me...
It's so cool you went here, I'm in Springfield. But I went to that museum when I was younger. It's an awesome place, though when I visited I was around 12 when I got to the morgue section I had to walk out and catch my breath. It's a heavy place to visit, the little museums inside seem newer and meant to lighten the mood a little because seeing the "treatments" and reading about the patients and reading some of their words really sets in hard in that place. A really great museum though and I'm glad you went! ^_^
12:56 phineas gage's real skull is at the warren anatomical museum :)
Thanks!
"I would like to say that the Doctors were more Crazier than the Patients."
Hospitals still use the restrainers. I know because I was restrained for a whole day just because I wouldn't cooperate. (Cooperate with nurses putting needles all over my body everyday all day)
Jackie Lynn they use restraints on prisoners today too
But it’s for a logical reason, not just, “your insane so let’s lock you up.”
Mynti Girl often it’s “we don’t want to deal with you so we will put you in restraints so we don’t have to babysit you.”
Sadly there's two types of people who go into the pyschiatric career. People who want to help and people who want authority over people they can call delusional.
Don’t apologize for that epic speech! That was a wonderful view of how people should work together to make a greater America! “Find what we do agree with and work backwards from there”- no wiser words have been spoken, great job!
I like how he is the only one there
I know right! I just realized that when I read this lol that's creepy too!
This museum is a really big museum it’s like 2 separate sections but it’s not even that busy so that’s why
Surprisingly, what I learned from this was that the Smashing Pumpkins basically stole 100 yr old lyrics from a man with extreme temporal lobe trauma. 🤘Mr. Gage. The original headbanger!
"A lot of these treatments are suspiciously like torture..."
ya don't say 😅😂
A lot of those things looked like stuff from a horror film, such cruelty, sad place Jacob xxx
Phineas Gage's skull currently resides at the Warren Anatomical Museum (within the Harvard Medical School's Countway Library of Medicine) in Boston.
The DSM suggests to this day that if you feel like you’re getting out of control or having an episode, you can take a cold shower. It’s supposed to make you feel better, but I prefer a warm one.
Thank you so much for being so respectful
I have to keep pausing this every few seconds to calm down bcs it makes me feel so sick
I actually went here on a field trip during my Senior year of high school. It was for my Psychology class and it was one of the most interesting experiences I've ever had.
Anyone notice how most of the patient mannequins were women....
Most of them look they’ve come from the kind of shops where you get full bodied mannequins to display women’s clothing but only half mannequins for displaying men’s shirts and jeans, so that’s probably why.
Back then something as trivial as 'rebellion' or 'PMS' was deemed as a mental illness, thus they were sent to psych wards
Back in those days woman who seemed anyways from different they would be labeled as witches and mentally ill
Noooooooooooo
If a woman wasn't quiet and didn't agree to everything she was deemed as rebellious and a witch and was probably shipped to one of these places.
I’d take medication over being tortured any day
@@prestonmartin8268 , might wanna fix a few grammatical errors there if you want to sound threatening.
@@wontons2125 lmao they deleted the comment must've been bad grammar
In the state of a severe panic attack it has taken me all my physical strength to calm down and stop crying and freaking out. Someone as much as raising their voice would send me into a further state of panic. I can't imagine the fear of already being manic then being tortured on top of it.
Nurse: our patient is hearing voices again! What do we do?
Doctor asf: *have we tried stepping on them, beating them unconscious, spinning them around constantly and and tying them down?*
No one:
Not a single soul:
Not even my sleep paralysis demon:
Old mental health treatments: *LET’S SHOCK THE CRAZY OUT OF ‘EM WITH COLD WATER*
Wiccan Blossom
**Slaps knee violently**
GREAT IDEA!
HELL YHEA LETS WATERBOARD THEM THAT WILL TAKE THE CRAZIES OUT IN A SNAP!
patient: MOTHERFUCKER
doctor: NO PROBLEM!
HELL YEAH WE'RE WIZARDS GIVE THAT MAN A HOLE IN HIS SKULL
*OH YEAH LETS MAKE THEM ROCK ALL DAY AND THEY CAN’T EAT OR DO NOTHIN’ EXCEPT ROCK, WHOO*
I love this museum. I personally find the cigarette packs sad and the clay sculptures very moving.
You've got the right idea about America, Jacob.
Thanks
People have no idea just how good they have it and how lucky they are to live here. I love America and am a proud American
@@Notoriousnipple lol
@@coconutbeefsoup well, it's not the 1700s anymore is it
@@coconutbeefsoup insert photo of modern slaves all over the 3rd world & some privileged jackass waving his virtue flag and totally ignoring REAL ISSUES, because they would expose him for the obtuse ass he truly is.
I like the way you narrate. You have a very clear and appropriately animated voice. You're a good presenter.
My great uncle was a patient at the St Joe State Hospital. It was after having a diagnosis of syphilis. Interesting museum to say the least. Was on the creeped out side last time I was there
Awww...I love this guy’s view of America and his idea of values at 23:00. He just seems like such a good guy!
I wonder if this museum was used for reference for the video game, "The Blackstone Chronicles"... Where you search an old mental asylum to try to rescue your son who had been kidnapped and held there. To hopefully rescue the boy before harm was done to him. There are pictures of treatment contraptions just like the ones in the museum.
Thank you for finding such interesting museums and attractions and sharing your experience with us. You're awesome! 😊
Loved the SP reference about Phineas Gage....
Jilly234 I was thinking the same *THING!*
Jilly234 // thought I was the only one who really appreciated that 😭😭
As the mother of someone with serious mental illness, this made me cry.
The Carpetbagger: Goes to Psychiatric Museum
Also the Carpetbagger: Says nothing offensive
Everybody liked that
all this reminds me of ahs asylum, favourite season!
Same here.
/completely skates over the fact that this was real and horrific for some fabricated TV show/
I mean, AHS does look good but that's like looking at a house on fire and thinking "Wait! They have a pop vinyl collection!"
@@theblanketfortcohort7332 calm down buddy
I prefer freak show
Your friendly neighbourhood nobody shut up
The oharlen swing or whirling chair was supposed to unscramble the brain of the patient, obviously it caused more harm than good.
Carpetbagger: Oh! A treadmill. That's nice and normal.
Museum: Patients were forced to run a thousand miles a day
"Bleed out your crazy".....I love the "snarkasm" throughout the video.
I work with special needs children and adults and they were onto something with the spinning. A lot of our autistic clients love pressure and love to spin… we have chairs with doors so they can spin as long as they want… it’s for recovery to give them some stimulus.
Can't tell much difference between the psychiatric museum and the medical quackery museum.
His side burns are almost a neck beard
In the 70's they were called 'chops' LOL😆
Excellent speech around 20:00. I've been a strong moderate espousing the same thing for many years.
LOL, i clicked on this because i thought it said "gore museum!!" thought i was gonna see some bizarre stuff (not that this isn't)
Its Glam Gore ... yeeeah glitzed..
I love how clueless he sounded when he said “a game called battlefield one” lol. Amazing channel love the content
trephination is actually used in emergencies to alleviate swelling in the brain sometimes. I highly doubt it has any psychological uses however...
Hey Jacob, I'm glad you got to check the museum out, thanks for taking my suggestion!
You suggested this , cool
We do talk to each other we just don't listen to each other.
I’m looking at myself and all my mental illnesses and I’m just so, so happy I wasn’t born back then.
13:43 "Two half human half rabbits bumping their rear ends together" 🤣
13:17 two bears high-fiving, nuff said
The last one was the eiffel tower
Bruh, its a bearded man, u do kno what fall out new vegas is?
Spicy _Mayo no its a mushroom cloud
@@enclave-2226 swiss cheese
Your right, early psychiatric treatments were classic cases of the cure being worse than the affliction.
The phobia's bathroom at the end had me dying laughing with that clown! 😂
I feel so fortunate to live in a time when we know fairly good ways to treat mental illnesses. I cannot imagine how people dealt with such conditions back when such they were not fully understood and chalked up to all sorts of phenomena.
I came here back when I was 16 with my grandma and great aunt, it was creepy AF but fascinating. My grandma and most of her siblings were born in St. Jo, and I found a picture tucked in a back corner of the hospital staff back in the 30's and there was my great grandfather. It was the coolest thing. The museum let us buy a copy of the picture.
Back then not mentioned but they believed a lot of mentally I’ll people were possessed so yea they tortured them
7:10
My sister is autistic and she was in behavioral therapy when she was young so probably 15 years ago or so. The spinning swing seems like a primitive version of one that they had along with other things like a ball pit, actual swings, and a very attentive, loving staff. She LOVED that swing and would probably never get off if it were up to her. At one point her twin, who was super jealous got a turn after months of begging and hated it so much, but it wasn't for her. My sister also loved being in small spaces and would stay in them for hours, so the cage wouldn't be that bad for her. She loves balancing too, so the wheel, obviously modified so it is open like a hamster wheel and she can get off when she was, would actually be really fun for her. While some of these treatments seem inhumane, the doctors were just trying their best with the little that they knew, and they got a lot of things right.
13:17 is two bears high fiving
Ah a fallout new vegas fan
The last one was the eiffel tower
Two bears wearing chef hats high fiving with their feet in buckets 😁
Me: *Watching late at night*
My hamster: JFJFJKDJDKFJHFJFK
cheers to that bro
“Not to worry ma’am, we have the latest technology concerning the treatment of the mentally ill. What’s that? Oh! That is the tranquilizer stick, helps our patients sleep very well”