Is Tsubasa The Winged Nomu? - My Hero Academia Theory

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  • @circusangst
    @circusangst Před 4 lety +224

    That's honestly so dark.
    The kid probably recognised Deku and wanted to reach out to him for help

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +35

      It is, but I'm starting to think Dr Ujiko probably duplicate tsubasas quirk since we found out recently he is capable of duplicating quirks so now I'm not sure if he actually turned his grandson into a nomu.

    • @nazono5644
      @nazono5644 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Kidoroki I haven’t actually read the manga because i find it very hard to find the books, although here’s a idea, for Dr. Ujiko to duplicate a quirk would he have to first turn said person who originally had the quirk into a nomu? Just a thought.

    • @Valkriel
      @Valkriel Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe Dr Ujiko duplicate his grandson memory too, maybe.

    • @andrefloresta4798
      @andrefloresta4798 Před 3 lety +4

      @@nazono5644 spoilers
      Probably no, he managed to duplicate all for one quirk without harming the user

    • @staydetermined6717
      @staydetermined6717 Před 3 lety

      And no one knows-

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Před 4 lety +202

    Man Deku not having a quirk really saved his life. Though he also could’ve became a villain. He REALLY got lucky.

  • @trolldrool
    @trolldrool Před 4 lety +78

    Being that Tsubasa used to bully Deku as one of Bakugou's followers, it could be that the winged nomu remembered Deku as someone he'd chase after to pick on or perhaps restrain for elementary school Bakugou and singled him out based on that. Had that been the case, it could've been that the winged nomu would have taken him to its new 'Bakugou' either Dr Ujiko or AFO.

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +8

      I love your take on that moment and it makes ton of sense!

  • @necromage843
    @necromage843 Před 4 lety +93

    Ujiko makes overhaul look like father of the year

  • @futurecorpse3392
    @futurecorpse3392 Před 4 lety +144

    This is seriously messed up. Tsubasa probably remembered when Bakugou fell into that lake when they were kids and Deku going over to help him. He just wanted help. Poor Tsubasa. I’m crying 😭

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +17

      It be like that. It just seems like the story progressively gets darker and darker.

    • @futurecorpse3392
      @futurecorpse3392 Před 4 lety +5

      showbobs exactly!

    • @user-fu9wm3kq5r
      @user-fu9wm3kq5r Před 4 lety +4

      If i wad the winged one i think ill just fly over and sit down and act like a bird. They will take me a mental facility but more than being stab in the brain xD

    • @futurecorpse3392
      @futurecorpse3392 Před 4 lety +1

      Information Keeper .A ahahhahaha

  • @kawon4768
    @kawon4768 Před 4 lety +61

    When I looked at that page in the manga i literally froze and heard creepy music in my mind because it was so messed up that the clue made sense, poor guy 😢

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah my hero has been getting pretty dark.

    • @kawon4768
      @kawon4768 Před 4 lety

      @@Kidoroki ikr?? 😮
      But that's why it's so interesting to read or watch >u

    • @sp8cec0wb0y4
      @sp8cec0wb0y4 Před 4 lety

      Kawaii Lover1289 what ch

  • @urickmann7768
    @urickmann7768 Před 4 lety +42

    he selected deku because he saw him as prey that was incapable of fighting back due to his memories of him bullying him for being weak and quirkless

  • @joe-lq6jz
    @joe-lq6jz Před 3 lety +37

    We can also mention that if all for one stole the quirk of someone like Ojiro, (which has a mutant quirk) his tail wouldn't disappear. He would only lose his ability to move it around. So, you can't transfer mutation type quirks, which means the winged nomu is Tsubasa

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 3 lety +6

      That is so true!!!! That really just blew my mind!

    • @Jxseph7
      @Jxseph7 Před 3 lety +1

      actually he can grow out his wings and put it back in his body again if I remember correctly

  • @naqib0264
    @naqib0264 Před 4 lety +23

    Oh my god... This is Dark bro...

  • @user-fu9wm3kq5r
    @user-fu9wm3kq5r Před 4 lety +88

    My theory is tsubasa was chosen because of his quirk.The wings was powerful so he was chosen to make a powerful winged nomu.Thats only it.Sorry if youre dissapointed

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +3

      Not disappointed at all but with the recent chapters I'm starting to thing he didnt turn his grandson into a nomu

    • @user-fu9wm3kq5r
      @user-fu9wm3kq5r Před 4 lety +3

      @@Kidoroki really?I dont really have manga because my sis call me a copycat if i read what she is reading. I only watch anime secretly behind my sisters back. Cause i heard that they put many quirk into a person and they cant handle the quirk. They became a mindless puppet. So maybe doc tsubasa thinks that his grandsons quirk was perfect. He chose to made the sacrifice. He damn loyal to All for one :v.

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +2

      @@user-fu9wm3kq5r yeah the recent chapters gave us a little bit more information on how nomu are made and how dr Ujiko still make the nomu without the help of afo. you should definitely pick up the manga no matter what your sister says

    • @user-fu9wm3kq5r
      @user-fu9wm3kq5r Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kidoroki Beside that i also live in vietnam. Otaku like us have to wait in the manga store for MONTHSSS till they actually stock a mha volume. Adn thennnnn they literally fight for the volume. My sis is so proud of her "from 1 to 17" volume she didnt even let me touch it. And treat it like a gold bar... yeaaa. You guys are ahead of vietnam 40 years you know...

    • @user-fu9wm3kq5r
      @user-fu9wm3kq5r Před 4 lety +2

      I dont think that make sense because without afo he couldnt make ANY nomu.
      To make a nomu. You need to transfer quirks into somebody untill they become a mindless puppet. So in order to give someone a quirk they need afo. This is the only info i know in anime. Sorry if something have been debunked wrong.

  • @EgyptnMama
    @EgyptnMama Před 3 lety +17

    Those 3 dislikes are the 3 nomus in that battle scene.

  • @teacupss6998
    @teacupss6998 Před 3 lety +10

    Okay another theory: So deku’s doctor that diagnosed he has no quirk is a villain right? Maybe the doctor actually diagnosed a quirk and told all for one. Then all for one took it away for himself. After he did that he erased deku’s and his mother’s memory of his quirk being taken away, because all for one probably has a quirk like that and so they booked another doctor appointment. The doctor told them that deku had no quirk, even though he used to. He pointed out that *most* people with quirks have another bone ( or something ) during the appointment. Notice he said “most”, so it’s possible deku had a quirk)

  • @user-yw7oh8dd2c
    @user-yw7oh8dd2c Před 3 lety +9

    Damn you stain he was only asking for help

    • @user-yw7oh8dd2c
      @user-yw7oh8dd2c Před 3 lety +4

      Can't blame him tho he thought he was saving deku since he says he will become a real hero

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 3 lety +2

      Word stain still a real one for that

  • @eijirokirishima448
    @eijirokirishima448 Před 4 lety +51

    What if all for one son is deku but deku's quirk was to strong to contain or it was a self sacrifice thing or immortal so he just took it away from him but didn't take it for him self or a nomu out of guilt...and that's why he took in shargaki bec I reminds him if deku.......DUN DUN DUN
    Lol that was way far fetched

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +8

      It might have been far fetched but would be a good idea for a different villain in the series.

    • @stephanietorris8262
      @stephanietorris8262 Před 4 lety +1

      LISTEN KIRISHIMA TOU ARE THE TRAITOR YOU KILLED KACCHAN

    • @night-v5258
      @night-v5258 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm actually all up for All For One being Izuku's father, but the announcement that biological Deku's father being introduced in the future and even had his name revealed bums me, could've been a cool twist with cool story arcs (Father vs Son)

    • @aprettydumbperson
      @aprettydumbperson Před 3 lety

      Nah Dekus father breathes fire(his quirk)and inko midoriya marrying a faceless man would be pretty hard to believe

    • @wholethere9535
      @wholethere9535 Před 3 lety

      What if all for one got with women around the world/Japan just to get the women pregnant and steal the child’s quirk, he poses as either being dead or being absent from the house so his identity wouldn’t be revealed

  • @schulzfamily7288
    @schulzfamily7288 Před 3 lety +8

    this is so dark and sad.. he was the kid who was friends with bakugo and sorta deku- dis to much for me to take in

  • @NoirRaven
    @NoirRaven Před 4 lety +19

    This kid is the only reason why I'm loosely following the series via vids on CZcams. I've got to know if it really was him or not. I do hope the author gets around to explaining it sooner rather than later; it sounds like he wanted to in the same issue but couldn't due to story reasons or management interference.
    Also, could the mindlessness be related to eye placement? I noticed the mindless ones all have their eyes on the sides of their heads/brains, while the sapient ones have forward facing eyes.
    Could the insertion of the eyes on the side be responsible for the lack of personality?

    • @jaylhant
      @jaylhant Před 4 lety +4

      Spoilers! Not sure if you read the manga or if another video has mentioned this but Kurogiri the shadow guy that's apart of the league of villains is a friend of present mic and mr. aizawa's from when they were high schoolers but the guy went missing and it's revealed when they captured kurogiri that he was the base for creating kurogiri. Kurogiri is basically a special noumu that had a couple quirks. Aizawa and present mic try to call out to their friend to try and save him. So I think it's safe to say that that kid is 100% for sure the noumu we see. Especially with the newest chapter being about Endeavor and all the heroes trying to arrest the doctor exposing his misdeeds.

  • @Kupynu
    @Kupynu Před 3 lety +5

    The shape of the wing is exactly the same

  • @toga.himiko9293
    @toga.himiko9293 Před 3 lety +7

    I thought this would have more attention? This is an amazing theory

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks I think there is still a chance this could happen since his grandson still hasn't came back or anything not even a mention since then

  • @chickenhaya3791
    @chickenhaya3791 Před 4 lety +8

    WHAT THE HECK MY SISTER SEARCHED UP LIKE THE THING AND DOCTER TSUBASA IS ACTUALLY THE GUY WHO MAKES NOMU AND THEN THERE IS A POST FROM HORIKOSHI AND IT SAYS THAT TSUBASA IS THE NOMU SO THAT MEANS HE TURNED HIS OWN GRANDSON INTO A NOMU WHAT THE HECK THATS SO DEEP

    • @chickenhaya3791
      @chickenhaya3791 Před 3 lety +2

      Im just saying that its true and im just saying what Hosikoshi posted you dont have to be so rude

    • @Meow0143
      @Meow0143 Před 3 lety +1

      @•Skeeby Zeeby• lmfao your not being mean, he/she is just being dramatic 🧘‍♀️🚓💨

  • @pory913
    @pory913 Před 2 lety +2

    The winged nomu probably tried to kidnap midoriya because when it saw midoriya, the first thing the nomu thought was to pick on him. like how tsubasa now sees midoriya as a picking target.

  • @user-gj8ri8yd1z
    @user-gj8ri8yd1z Před 5 měsíci +1

    The winged nomu is the most intresting thing right now in the anime

  • @fluffycutenose2316
    @fluffycutenose2316 Před 3 lety +8

    How OP would nomus made from fully grown adults be??? Would they be giant?

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 3 lety +3

      Well since all nomu are genetically enhanced it wouldn't matter if the nomu was previously and adult or child. There is a certain "nomu" that was created using a high schoolers body and he is pretty powerful. It just depends on what type of nomu ujiko and afo want to create.

    • @fluffycutenose2316
      @fluffycutenose2316 Před 3 lety

      @@Kidoroki Got it but if that was the case, nomu size is proportional to the human's size, that would have been a _yikes_

  • @An1me_san
    @An1me_san Před 3 měsíci +1

    The bony that could talk looked a lot like kurogiri

  • @kayduncan9825
    @kayduncan9825 Před 3 lety +14

    Couldn't Eri have helped him before he died if he was alive after she was saved

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 3 lety +3

      Its very possible that she could have reverted him back to a human

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 Před 3 lety +1

      @@KidorokiYeah thanks a lot Stain

    • @alexeysimushov4971
      @alexeysimushov4971 Před rokem

      You can’t blame Stein from everybody point view it monsters and Nomu mystery only started to be investigated. I know it horrible but nobody didn’t knew

  • @eyebags3377
    @eyebags3377 Před 4 lety +17

    7 likes what WHY HOW

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety

      It be like that sometimes

  • @staydetermined6717
    @staydetermined6717 Před 3 lety +6

    Too make it worse
    It was confirmed…. ;-;
    The doctor is his grandpa….
    Yeh, this show gets fucking
    D A R K

  • @lunasquib
    @lunasquib Před 8 měsíci

    5:48 the fact he didn’t even turn his grandson into a high end nomu

  • @heidijennings5465
    @heidijennings5465 Před 3 lety +3

    They should make a episode of deku and bakago find out who that Nomu is

  • @guadalupe4457
    @guadalupe4457 Před 3 lety +2

    Holy SHIT This make me scream

  • @The.Parallel.Society
    @The.Parallel.Society Před 7 měsíci

    While I do think the winged nomu is the docs grandson, I think the nomu had orders to get Deku regardless. Shigy shows Stain Deku’s picture earlier so he’s already looking for him and Shigy’s reaction seemed to be more angry that stain saved Deku rather than being angry that he lost the nomu.

  • @consigliere554
    @consigliere554 Před 4 lety +3

    Fvcking hell.. Why am i finding this out just now?

  • @eijirokirishima448
    @eijirokirishima448 Před 4 lety +8

    Bruh this could be true bec the do- cter dude made Nine right ??? What if he did the same with the nomu

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety

      I'm not sure he created nine I think he was in a tube healing from a fight he had with shigaraki (I talked about this in my trailer breakdown video of the possible fight). If he made nine then my mind would be blown.

  • @butterball1280
    @butterball1280 Před 4 lety

    ...wow like wow this is Cool!!

  • @theselfishorca6340
    @theselfishorca6340 Před 3 lety +2

    This is true it has been confirmed that this is Tsubasa

  • @ochacouraraka5163
    @ochacouraraka5163 Před 3 lety +2

    In my opinion I definently think the winged nomu is tsubasu... I have more info if u look at the shape of the nomus wings, then look at tsubasus, they look the same...

  • @stellabuyuk3325
    @stellabuyuk3325 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh boy !This is really disturbing.

  • @izzie4305
    @izzie4305 Před 3 lety

    That is really dark-

  • @muslimgigachad2715
    @muslimgigachad2715 Před 3 lety +1

    Deku has a quirk,but it got STOLEN by ALL FOR ONE.

  • @kadeshbedard7855
    @kadeshbedard7855 Před 3 lety

    It's hard to believe but also isn't hard to believe because like the wing Ed nomo is not fat in this way taller than normal high schoolers or middle schoolers but also it has wings and acts just like him maybe he also wanted deku to help him or he wanted to use deku for evil or bully him again

  • @skxtchemma
    @skxtchemma Před 4 lety +3

    ish true

  • @angelmatiastorres
    @angelmatiastorres Před 2 lety

    I know it been two years but the high end nomus are derange criminals

  • @madewithsoul8456
    @madewithsoul8456 Před 4 lety +1

    I believe Tsubas may not be the winged nomu and All for one is turning only power hungary criminals into nomu for some reasons so he might took Tsubas wing quirk and placed it on someone els. The doctor don't make the nomu's himself he needs All for one's help too.
    And why the Wing nomu took Deku it's became Nomu is controlled by Tomura, and Tomura want's to kill Deku and All Might, and their was the perfect change to kill Deku when he's weakened after the fight with Stain so Tomura took advantage of that and ordered Wing nomu to capture Deku.

    • @user-yw7oh8dd2c
      @user-yw7oh8dd2c Před 3 lety

      It is Tsubasa

    • @user-yw7oh8dd2c
      @user-yw7oh8dd2c Před 3 lety

      @@madewithsoul8456 horikoshi said it is tho

    • @madewithsoul8456
      @madewithsoul8456 Před 3 lety

      @@user-yw7oh8dd2c maybe, maybe-not

    • @madewithsoul8456
      @madewithsoul8456 Před 3 lety

      @@user-yw7oh8dd2c he sent a picture, and that's it.
      In the resent manga the Doctor have a bundle of quirk copys in his lab, so he could also have a copy of Tsubas wing quirk.
      czcams.com/video/ahTVD9X9Y-4/video.html

  • @dam.1999
    @dam.1999 Před rokem

    But if tsubasa is the winged nomu, doesn't that confirm AFO being izuku's dad? I mean he pretty much had no other connection to him other than the doctor who could, in the same way, confirm him being izuku's father.

  • @cocoplayzandwaflezplaz4304

    😳

  • @bry8243
    @bry8243 Před 3 lety

    it was confirmed by horikoshi

  • @tiamoran6758
    @tiamoran6758 Před 4 lety +2

    # 21

  • @BabySonicGT
    @BabySonicGT Před 3 lety

    That’s sad

  • @muslimgigachad2715
    @muslimgigachad2715 Před 3 lety

    And that all for one is izukus FATHER

  • @_egg-
    @_egg- Před 3 lety

    Wtf WHY THERE CHILDREN ARE TURNED INTO A NOMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    • @cinnamonium_
      @cinnamonium_ Před 3 lety

      he was turned into a nomu when he was older, probably

  • @dynahaustrie6370
    @dynahaustrie6370 Před 3 lety

    He probably doesn’t 😰💢

  • @lisagonzalez3673
    @lisagonzalez3673 Před 4 lety +9

    But His wings are a different color aren’t they? 🤨
    I’m just saying I’m NOT saying you’re wrong it’s just my opinion!

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +10

      Yeah they are different but all nomus were once human and nomus all are some type of color. I think when they go under that modification their skin color changes which would include the wings too.

    • @lisagonzalez3673
      @lisagonzalez3673 Před 4 lety +2

      It’s possible but still I’m not saying you’re wrong it’s just something I thought should be pointed out!

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +3

      @@lisagonzalez3673 it's all good I get what you were trying to say. I thought the same way when it came to the theory.

    • @lisagonzalez3673
      @lisagonzalez3673 Před 4 lety +3

      @showbobs
      Maybe the new season will give us more info soon!

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +2

      @@lisagonzalez3673 maybe

  • @dynahaustrie6370
    @dynahaustrie6370 Před 3 lety +1

    What the fuck?😰

  • @schulzfamily7288
    @schulzfamily7288 Před 3 lety +1

    : '(

  • @jalenhampton9876
    @jalenhampton9876 Před 4 lety +2

    Someone different people can similar quirks just look at Kirishima and tetsu tetsu and Crismum rot all has similar quirks and stop jumping to conclusions

    • @Kidoroki
      @Kidoroki  Před 4 lety +1

      I was going off of the facts that were given to us from the ultra analysis data book and hints given to us from horikoshi in the manga so my conclusion for the character is pretty fair.

    • @jalenhampton9876
      @jalenhampton9876 Před 4 lety

      showbobs I just saying that can be someone different and nomu’s can attack anyone and Deku didn’t recognize the nomu and Tomura could have sent another nomu to get Deku and look at the time when the nomu with another hero

    • @Young_Wrath
      @Young_Wrath Před 3 lety

      You can’t transfer mutation quirks like if afo stole the tail dudes quirk it wouldn’t disappear he just wouldn’t be able to move it so it has to be the kid with wings