1936 Cord 810, It’s crazy to think that this car is front wheel drive!
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- Today, On what it’s like. A rare treat 1936 cord model 810. In this episode background history on EL cord as well as background history on cord automobile tons of information on the cord model 810 I’m willing to bet this is the most in-depth for the most information about the 810 cord in one spot, It’s a pretty bold claim, But this episode is chock-full of information not often discussed. We go over all of the specs period ads Button switch is in knobs and take the tour enjoy this episode this is one of my favorite ones so far.
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Beach boys,in the parking lot
I think you’re A huge beach boy fan such as myself I have all of their albums up until smile I have smiley smile too
Anyway congratulations you got it I’m really impressed =)
@@What.its.like.
any song that is older than dirt I recognize
as it is same age as me😂
Here is some automotive trivia: Go check out the wheels on a ‘66 Toronado. Since this car was the first modern American resurrection of a front wheel drive car, the Oldsmobile designers very purposefully designed the wheels as an homage to the Cord 810/812. Incidentally, the Toronado also has hidden headlamps and was a ‘fastback’ with a radical design for its time.
Thank you so much for sharing that I never drew that connection especially with the wheels the wheels match.. or at least they’re very reminiscent
Interesting. I always thought the Toronado wheels were "truck like," but I see what you're saying.
@@josephgaviota That style of wheel is called an “Artillery Wheel”, the metal variety of which became very popular in the 1930s. Along with the Toronado, late 60’s FoMoCo products such as Torinos, Mustang GTs and Mach 1s, and Cougar Eliminators used an artillery wheel style as an option to the Magnum 500 wheels. Many people call them “GT wheels”, though only GT models have the GT letters on the center cap.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information especially about the artillery wheels, I never knew what style of wheel that was, mystery solved. =) I love those wheels on the cord and Hupmoblie of this era.
@@What.its.like. You’re welcome - that reminds me - as you may have discovered, Hupmobile and Graham bought and/or shared the tooling & stamping for the 4-door Westchester and made their own cars named Hupmobile Skylark and Graham Hollywood respectively. Made ca. 1939-41. Both companies used their own engines. Graham had a supercharged version of their engine and built 5x more cars than Hupmobile. Both were rear wheel drive and used more traditional headlamps to save cost & complexity The major exterior difference between the two cars was the grille: a one-piece painted for Hupmobile, and a two-piece plated for Graham. These “lesser” cars are considered to be much more affordable than the Cord versions in car collectors markets.
50 years ago, when first going to car shows I was fascinated with these cars and still love them.
In 1960 when I was 10 years old , my dad knew someone who owned one and we got to ride in it, I even got to open the headlights by turning the cranks on the underside of the dash, something I'll always remember.
@@ericruud9328 It was easy enuf that my dad yelled at me a few times to stop playing with it.
This poor Cord needs to be restored by someone who knows what they are doing. The dash brought tears to my eyes (not of happiness). The Cord IS the best example of forward thinking.
Was amazed how dirty it was, which means it's a driver, which is amazing in and of itself. Even the spare had mud on it!
It was on a farm and parked in a barn they use it which is awesome the owner was telling me every part is available for that car..
I noticed that too. Under that contact paper is a beautiful engine turned dash.
It looks like someone reproduced that wood dash before, but wasn't able to get the contour of the gauges to match.
This has to be the most Gorgeous Car from that era ,Really far ahead of it’s time ,Awesome styling
I wonhundredpercent agree I hope to one day cover it Delahaye those things are like from a different world. But that’s like a bucket list thing for me those cars are millions of dollars.. one day tho I hope =)
3:40 That vignette of the years in which Mr. Cord lived; pre-airplanes, pre-home radio, pre-airconditioning, pre-spaceflight, pre-landing on the moon, pre-computers, etc., etc. to 1974-DANG, just think of the HISTORY he saw.
I wonder if anyone could design a new car today without using a computer.
What a rare and beautiful car, Jay! Thanks to both you and the owner for featuring it here on your channel. And it's a wonderful color, even better.
There was two standout cars from the footage that I took at Classic auto Mall one was a cord 810 the other one was a 1948 Studebaker Champion not to see the other cars weren’t good they were it was just those were the two cars that I really wanted I lost the footage from the memory card I have to take it to an actual person to see if I could salvage it. Long story short I was really bummed even though the cord wasn’t real I figured maybe if I got on line and seeing if I could find one there was two for sale.. huge thank you to the owner that let us do this they were really really nice down to earth the car was in the barn it was on a farm this car was in the middle of nowhere. I was sort of laughing the whole time because that thing is true like with old cars and Barn that’s generally where a lot of old cars are.. it was just so surreal to see that car in that environment and it was there for at least 30 years
What a Story!
American Pickers would flip!
I learned a ton from this one! As far as the design, years later Dodge would say in their ads for the Magnum, “Note our update on the classic Cord type grill”. So well executed, 40 years later designers were still copying it. Choices - 1936 810, 1937 812. Thank you as always ~ Chuck
Great choices I figured since I lost all the other footage I would do more information on the cars that I can cover I’m going to go try to shoot a hup Mobile today.. that is a very interesting car my favorite year 1935
Love these. So modern compared to everything else in it’s day.
Could you imagine driving this on the road in 1936 it would be like seeing a space ship
@@What.its.like. Exactly. I can imagine Clark Gable and Carole Lombard driving by 🙂
This car wasn’t huge money for the class of car this was and the tech it offered.. but then again 40,000 then vs now is different the inflation Calculator I don’t believe can calculate everything. If that makes any sense. Say $1 (take inflation out of it both $1 are of the same worth) so $1 then vs $1 now the $1 then buys more idk the $ meant more
I am still stunned by the Cord! It is surely among the most sensational cars ever produced on an assembly line. It is a real pity that it was not extremely successful.
Totally agree. I think it would have been different if the Great Depression wasn’t a thing
When I was 11 or 12 (Summer of 1965 or 1966), I was riding with my Mom northbound on Central Expressway in Dallas and we were passed by a Cord. My Mom told me to look at the car coming up behind us and announced that it was a Cord.” Traffic was mild and the Cord was weaving in and out of traffic. My mom tried to keep up to it so I could get a better look, but the Cord got to far ahead. My Mother was not really a car person, but the distinctive look and beauty of the Cord was unmistakable to anyone who grew up in the 1930’s. I am sure her older brothers were always pointing out cars when they were out. It was a deep maroon color and the image has stayed with me.
Cord and Cord 812.
@Eric Ruud The Cord was about 30 years old when I saw it, yet I was surprised it didn’t look “old timey.”
To see one of these on the road would be an absolute treat and I feel that way no matter what time. You lived there isn’t that many cars that you could say that about. But this car is next level.. with all of the cons that this car has I would still own it it is just iconic. The non-supercharge cars are affordable or at least the ones that I’ve seen there’s a couple on Facebook marketplace that I’ve been sitting there if I had the money I would go buy it because you can own a product from the same company that Duesenberg was part of for an affordable price whereas you can’t buy a Duesenberg for the price of this car.
2:21 Wow, that's an impressive list of companies EL Cord controlled.
I kind of want to see the whole List
Thanks for a great review.I love that the car is not a trailer queen,it gets driven.
Me too it was one of my favorite things about it if you trailer the car to the show I believe you’re doing it wrong.
I don’t know I drive all my stuff.
Thank you for showcasing this beautiful Cord. I have always admired this great car.
Thank you so much for watching glad you dig this episode
This is an utterly brilliant car and one of my all-time favorites. That's just about the most elegant shade of red I've ever seen, inside and out. When I was a teenager, there was a retired opera singer from our church who was restoring a purple Cord convertible. Absolutely gorgeous. WYR: Imperial Airflow (because I saw a spectacular restomod at Barrett-Jackson years ago that I've never gotten over) and the supercharged 812 (because those chrome pipes make my heart beat faster).
Great choices I have a thing for air flows if i had the money I don’t know 🤷♂️ if I’d go packard 120 sedan or an airflow
Great story thank you so much for sharing those memories
Excellent car choice and video! I remember seeing a white Cord 4-door a few years ago at Universal Studios, Hollywood. It just came to mind that the car was used in the Dick Tracy movie.
The shifter was a pre-selector semi-automatic. Staring up in the first gear position and letting up the clutch pedal, immediately then shifting the pre-selector to 2nd and when up to speed, lifting your foot off the gas pedal, allowing the transmission to upshift. And so on for the remaining upshifts without clutching. Downshifts required clutching as well as shifting in and out of reverse.
Chrysler products with Fluid Drive, although using conventional shifters, operated similarly making one automatic upshift for each forward gear position. The advantage was being able to come to a stop and then restarting again without using the clutch. For passing, pushing the accelerator to the floor, and like an overdrive unit, would kick down. There was a momentary contact switch under the accelerator pedal which would actuate a relay killing the engine spark for a second to create a momentary interruption of the powerflow. I don't know if the Cord had a passing gear.
Yep, I'd go for the "coffin-nosed" Cords, if given the choice. I wouldn't think that reliability would be an issue outside of being front wheel drive when compared to conventional rear wheel drive.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share all that added information and insight
Glad you dig this episode cool episode tomorrow 1934 hup areo coupe
4:30 ... placed _LAST_ for design ideas per Harley Earl !
DANG, the Cord is such a beautiful design, and I normally super admire Earl, it's hard to believe he couldn't see the beauty and simplicity of Borig's design.
It didn't have tail fins and where were you going to hang all the necessary chrome!
Don't forget the Buick Y job of 1938. No tail fins! Hide away headlights. It was a one-off that Eral drove as his car.
In the 1960's, the owner of a machine shop where I lived had two Cords rusting away in the yard, an 810 and an 812S. I had a 1955 Packard Patrician and I once had him make a few parts for me. We talked and he was going to restore them when he had time. We know how that goes. This is a beautiful automobile.
@eric ruud if it didn’t rain for a week we probably could have took a ride in this one.. it was going to rain for a week The day I went and shot it was the only day that our schedules lined up.
.....great car, great vid, thank-you. I saw one of these in 1965, when I was 9, at the Ford dealership where my dad was have service done. It was burgundy, in perfect condition, and I got inside of it and look around. The steering wheel and transmission pre-selector were just fantastic, as was the entire car. I still remember that car well after 48 years.
Glad you dig this episode, great story of the cord you saw =) this is the type of car that leaves a lasting impression, crazy Harley earl didn’t like it but then used the concealed headlight on his y job
It is one of the most beautiful art deco cars with Tucker Torpedo at a close second
Just think if the fully automatic transmission was available at that time, and the CV joints sorted out better, the Cord would have been even more successful. Such a beautiful car.
It is such an amazing car it looks different on camera than it does in person when you see it in person it’s almost unbelievable that it’s from 1936
Actually seen a real Cord 810 sedan at a hot rod show along with a '47 Lincoln Continental restomod 4 years ago, outstanding cars. 1st pick, 36 Cord; 2nd scenario hard choice, 1929 Cord L-29. Thanks for a great episode. @@What.its.like.
Thank you so much for sharing the story they are super cool cars to see in person pictures just don’t do it justice
Glad you dig this episode
Thank you for sharing. One of my favorite auto’s
You bet I’m gonna cover more 30s cars this year I really want to Cover Jordan at least one Auburn it would be really cool to do a Duesenberg this year I know of one in the area it’s just tracking it down
The coffin nose design, such a beautiful machine.
Agreed it’s crazy to think Harley earl didn’t like it
@@What.its.like. Harley by some accounts was what they called an odd duck back then. His design team used to atempt to sneak new ideas in when he was out of town. Some he ended up approving but some were given a thumbs down.
WYR1: Hupp. Auburn 851. Maybe a '41 Packard Clipper.
WYR2: Either a '41 Hupp Skylark or a '41 Graham Supercharger. Hupp and Graham shared rights to the Cord bodies and produced similar products, both lines were gorgeous.
Jay Leno owns an 810 but painted in a chocolate brown color. I think that the car was beautiful, a timeless design with many innovations. Smaller, more practical size. One of the complaints of the front-wheel design was that there was too much weight behind the front axle causing too much loss of traction when the car was driven uphill in the snow. Still, having front wheel drive at the time was quite the marvel at the time, pulling the car instead of pushing with the rear wheels. Sadly, the 810 Cord was the last gasp of the once great Auburn company - too late, too expensive, and too radical for depression era tastes.
I watched Leno’s episode he has a couple episodes of that car on there Dennis gauge from my Classic Car.. they were weaving in and out of traffic and that thing and it just looked awesome
This car is beautiful and awesome, incredible design!
Totally agree =) timeless design
What a treat , an original , i have seen 3 of them in my life so far , but all customized , chevy 350v8 ,350 tubo , & rear wheel drive , well i understand , cheep & easy to maintain
Glad you dig this episode I originally shot a replica one that was in the lost footage.. figured I should go try and find a real one
Thanks, Jay! One of my favorites.
Glad you dig this episode =) i’m going to try to cover some white whales this year. I really wanna start covering cars for manufacturers that don’t exist that went out of business well before I was a twinkle in my dad’s eye or even before my dad was born
Because this was the only car at the time with front wheel drive, if you had mechanical problems, you had to go to your local (very few) Cord dealer service department.
L29 chord predated and Miller race cars were the first front wheel drive car it’s all gone over in this episode
The L 29 cord was the very first mass production front wheel drive cord
The 810 was the first car with that was mass produced with independent Front suspension the L 29 didn’t have that
Except for the Citroen Traction Avant.
Stunning beauty
This car was absolutely gorgeous I would totally own one if I had the money I would probably buy this one.. honestly it’s cheaper than the cloned one that I shot at classic auto Mall that they sold
My favorite car!!!
This is one car that pic and videos do not do it justice. See one in real life and OMG these are out standing good looking
I 100% agree with you I wish I did this car justice but cameras don’t capture the angles like the eye does
My favorite car that I'll never get to own...they were known to be a bit smaller than their contemporary cars, and made them hard to sell as a result, as weird as that sounds now. When new, they were also "works in progress"...nowadays, they are wonderfully weird.
36 Cord
37 Cord
This is a guess: Rag Doll, Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons
Great choices thank you so much for the added insight =)
They were really advanced for their day
Great guess it wasn’t The Four Seasons it was the beach boys in the parking lot
These are stunning cars when they’re properly done. The unknown gauge below the passenger side windshield knob is the radio dial.
First round goes to the Hupp. I love orphans, and that’s about it orphany as it gets. Plus it just looks fantastic. Second round Goes to the blue Cord. It’s a striking color on that car.
Great choices thank you so much for pointing out that that’s the radio weird radio placement super small gauge for that I was thinking it was a pressure gauge of some sort I wasn’t sure if they had an onboard air compressor in this car has just about everything else.. lol
Enjoyed!!!! 👍👍
Glad you dig this episode
In 1936 Many people thought that in the future all cars would be front wheel drive.
If you put the transmission in front of the engine instead of behind it you could make the floor under the driver much lower.
1) Cord
2) 37 812
Easily one of the most beautiful cars of all time
Great choices this was an awesome car =) so happy to get the chance to feature it on here
So worth the wait...
The unknown gauge got me for a second, too. Until I realized it has two knobs under it - it's the radio.
Thank you so much for that it does kind of look like a radio now that you mention it but it’s so small I wasn’t sure if it was a pressure gauge of some sort and the other knob was in a cigarette lighter but there wasn’t an ashtray in the front from what I remember
Very sleek and beautiful design.🤩 It's probably a good idea to have a close and cooperative passenger with these , given all the dual operated gadgets. I'd pick the Cord in both scenarios.😎
You can always open up the gadgets when they aren’t in the car I just think it’s awesome that if you want to have your windshield open you could have your windshield open if you want to cowl vent you can open your own vent opened cabin had a very cockpit like feel. And the seats were so nice The owner was telling me that the benches are made of wood
Great choices
Love this car
If I had the money I would totally own one of these I shot one a classic auto Mall in the footage that I lost it wasn’t a real one being in a real one versus being in a fake one the real one is so much better in every way..
Truly a styling masterpiece, Buehrig deserved the accolades he got. That slotted wheel design was a happy accident and not part of his original concept. Someone punched holes in them to aid brake cooling and it stuck. Woodgrain on this dash incorrect - should be engine turned aluminum (?) 10-15 years ahead in design and with the supercharger, performance too. I would happily have one. WYR 1) Though I like the Aerodynamic Hupp - no contest, the Cord. 2) Cord 812. The L29 was another styling tour de force (and one of the best 'Classics' in that regard) but if you're going to actually your dream car.....
Great choices. The dash should be turned aluminum.. I was trying to figure out the whole wooden dashboard thing as well. Car is still stunning =)
Without a doubt, a very innovative car. As an European, I wonder how much inspiration was found in the Citroen Traction Avant. (1934).
I have a friend with a traction avant- his is newer 1954 model it’s crazy to think they built that car for almost wellover20 years with very little changes
This is one of the Cars My Dad Loved and I fell for on first Sight, the one we saw together was in 60's, in poor Shape and Mechanic that owned it refused to Sale it to my Dad for Years and years
There is one for sale on marketplace in the 30,000 it’s in Maryland if I had the money I would buy it it’s yellow..
A coffin-nose Cord was a significant plot point in the 1975 movie _The Reincarnation On Peter Proud_ as one of the details from one of his previous lives the title character recalled in his non-dreams and under hypnosis.
Cowboy star Tom Mix died when his Cord convertible hit a "dip" in the road at blazing speed, By the account I read, Mix had a metal suitcase in the back seat. and the unsecured valise hit the driver in the head.
Hi Jay!: Gotta LOVE the 810/812 Cord!! Gotta Pick the Cord in the first WYR, but you are really tempting me with that Hupmobile! I LIKE that design! Gonna Go with the Super Charged 812 Cord on the second, no contest. If you ever get a chance, get over to the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg Museum in Auburn, Indiana. They usually have a fine selection of cars on display.
That’s a place that I definitely want to go I’m gonna try to go to the shindig in August I really want to cover a Auburn Duesenberg Durant Jordan Ruxton moon I would love to dive in deep with some of the 30s cars that just don’t exist anymore that are frankly being lost the time. I know a guy who has four Pullmans I am going to do all of them it’s just getting our schedules to line up. =)
Great choices
Frank Loyd Wright owned one. He had it painted in his signature color( a rust - orange). He said that a proper car is front wheel drive. God Bless Y'all.
That’s awesome thank you so much for sharing that story I didn’t know Frank Lloyd Wright owned one =)
FIRST Car with independent front drive and suspension was likely the 1934 Citroën Traction Avant - The Cord 810 was America's 1st. -- Same with underhood radiator, one of the first I can find was the 1931 Mercedes 170. So again: Cord 810 was the 1st American ;-)
I found that list the first on a cord site were a lot of things on the list I debunked lol.. it also claimed to be the first one to have the Bendix electric hand which was developed with by Hudson in 1935.. claimed to be first unit body car.. (Chrysler airflow was 1934)
18:18 I've read that these cars have trouble getting up steep hills without loosing traction, and that's no surprise with all of the significant weight behind the drive wheels. The reverse-suicide doors are cool looking, but they should have some kind of interlock to stop the front doors from being opened while the car is moving. This is one of the coolest looking production cars ever, but I wouldn't want to take one to a ski resort.
Mr Cord had one hell of a history.
The car is very impressive. How reliable was it in its day? Those disappearing headlights were horrible when reintroduced decades later.
Being hand cranked would make them less of an issue (though more of a PITA) than the vacuum operated ones. The solenoids on the preselector gear shift, however. . . and it was the same transmission Preston Tucker chose to use for his car. . .
Awesome 😎😎😎
I have always liked these cars, especially because of the headlights and grille. I never knew the headlights were opened like that. In fact I had no clue how they were used considering it came from the mid-1930s.
Interesting to see this car is in some kind of regular use.
Anywho, my choices would be the 1936 Cord and the '37 Cord.
I should’ve cranked the lights open or asked to do that cause they’re very interesting you have to crank it on both sides which I think is hilarious great choices =)
Cord...and Cord. I've owned several classics from the 60's and details like trunk, under the dash cleanliness were always important to me. It's important the impression one leaves. For such an important car, I found these areas lacking. Also, it deserves real fog lamps.
Great choices I watched the Leno episode and he has fog lights on his and he says that cord purest don’t like the big fog lights because it takes away from the aesthetics
Chord 810 Can’t get enough of these !
Yeah they are so cool if I had the money I would take this one home and just drive it it would be so cool to see this on the road
@@What.its.like. absolutely!
You own a Classic Car?
I used to have a 66 Sport Fury Convertible I had to sell it when I bought My Home,Also a 79 T-Bird as a daily driver ,Both Cars had a lot of Mechanical Problems ,But looked Great,
I’m not mechanically inclined enough to fix them,But like everything Retro,
I have a Rockabilly band and write songs too
I do own a 52 Chevy 1 ton truck it’s going to be featured on an episode coming soon.. I did a review on it it’s the very first episode but our formats changed since then once I get it working good again I’m going to redo that episode I think
I want to own more cars the only thing that’s stopping me is money and my wife lol
@@What.its.like. Jay,
You are So Mature for a Young Guy admire you ,
I See your Cabinet Making and you are a Craftsman.You are a Great Dad too,
The Cars will come in time!
Thank you so much for the kind words it means a lot =)
I really want a 30s car I would love to cover the seats and share it with everybody because.. that era seems to be getting forgotten
Great review 👏
Thank you so much glad you dig =)
Love the Cord, probably the most technologically advanced car of it's era, while the Citroen Traction Avant also had front wheel drive it lacks other advanced features like the pop up head lights and Electric Hand transmission, as well as the styling or the V8. The Electric Hand was also available on some Hudson & Terraplane cars, as well as Delahaye's, and of course the Tucker. Surprised you didn't put in the Ruxton as one of your options considering that was the only other American front wheel drive car at the time.
My picks while extremely difficult, gun to my head the Cord, but the Hupp is an unbelievably close second. Second pick no question the 812 supercharged. Speaking of Hupp I hope one day you'll be able to review there version of the Cord the Skylark, or Graham's Hollywood.
Awesome insight and information I was supposed to review a hub skylark unfortunately the guy that owns the collection passed away and I just found out about it.. he had one and they are so rare, not sure but hopeful that might see one at hershey
"...One of the most beautiful cars of all time." That's true! As to founder Errett L. Cord...what an American businessman! He seemed to have hired a group of innovative designers. And, to be developers of Duesenberg and the famous looking Checker (Taxi) Motors; and Stinson Aircraft Company and American Airways...amazing!
And the trunk...in those days you'd have to have small luggage.
These Cord autos sure had many innovative ideas.
The '36 Chrysler "Imperial "... I'd take that one!
Totally agree =)
Just realized the rear of that Cord resembles a slightly larger VW Bug, especially from the rear, with that slope!
REQUEST: - Would you discuss and review the World War II Dodge WC series aka 'Beeps' (for 'Big jeeps') ? -- Dodge built some 380,000 of 'em (1940-1945), Which is MORE than the 360,000 small, 1/4-ton jeeps from Willys. -- Over a 1/4 million Dodge 3/4-ton, 4x4 Command Cars, Weapon & Troop carriers, Ambulances, etc. were made -- Remaining Unsung Heroes of WW II ...
I will definitely look for one I don’t come across a whole lot of military vehicles I would love to cover a bantam jeep.. and in amphibious Ford vehicle I can’t think of what the name is off the top of my head but it was based off the jeep but you could drive it in the water
I've read that the big Jeep wagons (or SUVs as they are now called) were the first consumer cars on the market after WWII and sold like hotcakes while Willys had a monopoly on the car market. That alone would make them interesting.
You didn't sound like a total spaz this time, You doing alright? This is my favorite car of the interwar period. And one of my favorite cars I'll never get to experience outside of seeing one in a museum.
Haha yeah I’m playing around with delivery.. Trying to get to a happy medium there’s parts of this video where I’m talking to slow it seems..
@@What.its.like. don't worry, you don't sound like old car memories... Yet.
I really like his channel.. I’ll bring back the enthusiasm next time I went out and did a couple cars today some more cars come in Friday I have to replace material that was lost
@@What.its.like. don't get it twisted. I think reeling it in a little sounded good. "YOU!" just need to find the right balance. Shouting "YOU!" Is by far one of the most innovative catchphrases I've heard in a very long time.
That’s kind of an inside thing for me somebody was telling me that I had to get my use right so I just started saying you like the Uncle Sam pointing saying that he wants YOU to join the US Army.. lol it’s a very polarizing thing just like the toodaloo at the end.
Suggestions for cars to cover, the Graham '38 to '40 Sharknose, the '41 Hollywood, and the weird '39 Willys Overland (or any of the '37 to '42 Willys cars.) Great channel, please keep 'em coming! ❤❤
Also the 1939-'40 Hupmobile Skylark, which is essentially the same as the 1940-'41 Graham Hollywood.
Thank you so much for those I want to hit more 30s cars this year I’m doing everything I can to cover as many 30s cars as possible. There was a show that I used to go to that had somebody had a 1939 shark nose gramham going to go back to the car show and see if I can run into them that was a pretty stellar car
@What.its.like. absolutely, thank YOU, really enjoying your videos! 😊
@@8176morgan YES!! 😊
Thank you wade Krieg for digging this channel
Walter Christie made FWD with IFS, coil springs, 37 years before that, sold them as taxis.
Cord 812 was used as the Shadows car in the movie of the same name in the early 90s
I love the 810/812 timeless design
On the unknown gauge on the dashboard, the two knobs underneath it (one missing) makes me think it is the dial for a radio.
Thank you so much for that it does look like a radio now that people are starting to point that out I wasn’t sure if it it’ll most looks like a pressure gauge
Cord 812 Hands down.
Sweet choice =)
Hey, love your vids buut I think you got something wrong, this Cord might have been the first mass produced front wheel drive car with independent suspension in the US. But in Germany the Adler Trumpf already had that as early as 1932, the second car after that was from what I know the French Citroen traction avant in 1934.
Thank you so much for that correction I should’ve said the first American made car that had independent front suspension.. also should’ve said that I got that list the first from a cord site half of the list I debunked there was way more first on the list of first but they wasn’t in auto industry first if that makes any sense.. The L 29 cord was the first mass produced front wheel drive car it came out in 1929
Beautiful car... It STILL needs some work, though...
Hupmobile,
37 supercharged Cord
Sometimes when cars are designed it ends up where the finished product is years ahead of its time. The Cord is a perfect example of that as is the Tucker that came along after it.
In the case of the Cord, I believe the reliability issues were just because the designs were too far ahead of the existing technology to make them reliable day after day.
I totally agree there are a lot of similarities between the cord story and the tucker story cord just lasted longer.. I left this part out for when we cover an 812 super charge cord Alex triblus was there for that as well as the tucker project
7:10 For comparison, the 1959 Studebaker Lark four door sedan overall length is 180 inches.
2023 Subaru Crosstrek overall length is 176.5 inches.
Great comparison
Always wanted a Cord replica, so the chance to own a real one (if I were a rich man) makes the #1 "Would You Rather" winner the 810. (and I always though the '36 Imperial was ugly as sin)
I'd take any of the #2 choices, but will stick with the standard '36 810 (don't need a Supercharger for Avenue cruising) Sure would like a convertible though.
Excellent video as always Jay.
The ironic thing was I shot a cord replica at Classic Automall the footage the card got corrupted I believe the card got sold I was tiptoeing around the idea of doing it because I try and do original cars but I could give a comparison between the two the real one is better and just about every way the only thing that was better on the clone was getting in and out was easier. The windshields are smaller on the clone as well as all of the windows seem smaller it’s really hard to see out of does not have the Cowl vents or the windshield doesn’t open and there’s other differences as well. Small differences in body design
Great choices =) don’t put down the Chrysler imperial just because it looks like a toaster.. lol
8:17 Based on the spark plug wires, I guess this car did not have a radio.
18:15 Well, those are insulated plug wires, so maybe I spoke too soon.
Great video, i learned a lot about Cord. Was the electric hand also called the pre-selector transmission?
Glad you dig this video yes the electric hand was like a preselector transmission I was always under the impression that you could drop it both ways but I could be mistaken
They used slide rules and pencil my friend . Many wonderful accomplishments were conducted before computers .
I miss when they designed things by hand and later clay.
1) Cord. 2) 810. What an absolutely beautiful piece of rolling automotive artwork! But why, why would they paint it that gawdawful color instead of leaving it the original Cord cream? If only one car was chosen to represent the style of the 30's, this would be it. Can so picture pulling up in front of the new Empire State Building in this for an evening of dancing on the observation deck. I always wondered why there was the protrusion from under the front grille, now I know! Thanx for a great review on a great car!
Glad you dig this episode I actually like the maroon I think it looks really good that color it’s a very classy color but I could see why canary yellow would look good as well.. if I ever get one of these cars like only one I’m going to take it to a city that’s where that card would shine with city buildings in the background especially the New York City sky line as you mentioned.. that would be epic
@@What.its.like. LOL... and there's my colorblindness. The car looks to be the same color, to me, as Hershey's Special Dark bar... maroon, makes sense now... LOL...
Don't forget the Cugnot steam tractor was front-wheel-drive in the 18th century.
Thank you so much for that =)
Note Tucker used that cord transaxle with the same shifting system .
Yep =)
I saw one in 1960 in driv 2:02 driveable condition
Nice car..
I can’t believe it’s still for sale honestly yeah it’s not a perfect car but it’s not priced at the perfect car price either
Thanks for the video. Can you do one on “The BIG M” new for 57. 1957 mercury Montclair and turnpike cruiser. NOT big Mike
I’ve been looking for one I know where there’s one in a collection that I’ve been trying to video for almost a year now our schedules don’t line up.. rest assured turnpike cruiser is on the list of cars to try to cover this year I know I say that a lot but I’m looking for a lot of cars I try to do five videos a week it’s a lot there’s 20 cars a month =)
@@What.its.like. awesome sir, looking for to it
Hi Jay, and thanks for a closeup on a great car. But your claim that it was the first mass produced front wheel drive car with IFS is an extremely American-centric thing to say. It was beaten to that specification by the Citroen Traction Avant of 1934, which went on to sell 760,000 units. The earlier L29 Cord (1929) can't really make the claim either with only 4400 sold, and front suspension of the DeDion type - not quite independent. Cheers.
Thank you so much for all of that added insight and information I should’ve said in America.. and to be fair there’s a population difference there’s way more people that live over there than there is in the United States or at least back then your population per capita far exceeds ours.
Thank you so much for sharing that I have to try to find a 1934 citroen
09-05-2023. the first time travel hub was in 1937-8.
1941 Hupmobile Skylark! Like to see a story done on that...
I want to do a story on that as well as well as the gram Hollywood either or would be awesome hopefully one day feature both
I would have rather had the original color scheme and materials. Tucker used those transmissions and electric shift in his cars. They have a very distinct whine in the lower gears.
No CV joints yet, it would be decades for those. U joints was the order of the day. But Cord did a good job with front wheel drive.
FWD wasn't a thing because of Universal joints. U-joints can transfer torque over an angle, but beyond a few degrees of travel [such as what a RWD driveshaft would see], these produce a LOT of vibration!
CV or Constant Velocity joints were designed and built in the 1960's because of this vibration. That made the '66 Oldsmobile Toronado possible with front drive, the new CV joints.
Back in 1936, some driveline vibration meant nothing; The engine was already so obnoxious that it didn't matter.
Great information thank you so much for sharing all of that insight =)
ill take the su;ercharged 812 with those crazy exterior tubes in front fender--which make it the only cool cord
I hate to nitpick the "firsts", but 1936 Pontiac had "knee action" independent front suspension as optional equipment. I would suspect other GM brands had the same options in 36 as well, maybe Olds/Cadillac had the option earlier?
No thank you for bringing it into light because there was a lot more first on that list that I debunked. I tried saying that the cord was the first unibody constructed car which I believe that was the 1934 Chrysler airflow. They also said that it was the first car to use the Electric hand shifter which was designed by Bendix and Hudson in 1935. It was a very innovative car for today but it took a lot of things from other cars because cord was totally broke to make this hyper car
It's also a unit body car. I think the unidentifiable thing on the dash is a radio dial.
Thank you so much for pointing that out I totally forgot to mention that it was a unibody car.. planning on heading in at 812 as well as some other body styles I left some information out so it’s not like talking about the same thing over and over again
Automotive Royalty.
Yeah it was this was a bucket list thing for me now I kind of want to do an Auburn and Duesenberg before the years over there is a dual cowl phaeton running around here there’s a whole story about that car and I would love to feature it problem is I haven’t seen the car in 10 years but I have a friend who is friends with the caretaker of that car so I’m going to try my best to feature it this year.
@@What.its.like. If you ever get a chance to do an Auburn Boattail Speedster, that would be nice.
That’s on the list of cars to cover I would love to feature that car on the channel this year. There is a clone that comes to the car show on Monday nights but I wanna do a real one
@@What.its.like. Thank you for your commitment to authenticity, and to the channel.
Wow! The headlights go up one on each side. I thought they were tied together like later cars.
You know, I don't think I've ever seen a Cord in any other colors other than cream white and maroon.
what happened when you opened the hood? That was a really weird moment on film.
I thought you were going to give me a shout-out or link my cord model car unboxing video or something.
So the hood opening procedure was shot in four times slow motion by accident I was able to speed it up afterwards. I can’t figure out why the GoPro doesn’t slow everything down immediately it’s annoying that’s what that is that’s why some of it’s fast and some of its slow
I linked your video in description =)
@@What.its.like. Thank you for linking. It's too bad you can't "End Screen" videos. I think that would be a better option for you ... even to end screen your own videos and to link the Facebook page on there as well.
Just one of the sexiest designs ever. I'll take the Chrysler in the first one and the Cord 812 in the second set. Cannot go wrong with any of these though.
Totally agree =)
8:20 Maybe more accurate to call it a preselector transmission instead of a manual.
I hoped you were going to pop the lights up
Darn it I should’ve showed that there was a couple areas in this video that didn’t come through like it paused where the lights were I talked about the lights being flush and how that was really rare for that time. Also how the exhaust went on top of the engine as opposed to underneath it.. i’ve been having software/equipment malfunctions last couple weeks and it’s getting annoying lol
I think there are two more automotive firsts, I believe it's the first car with flush mounted taillights and the first with full hubcaps.
Thank you so much for that inclusion for whatever reason the part in the video where I was talking about the flush tail lights there wasn’t anything there and I was trying to discuss how the manifolds run on the top of the engine but that wasn’t on there either I’ve been having technical malfunctions this past month
@@What.its.like. Well your technical malfunctions are a boon to your presentation of automotive history. 😀
4:11 Harry Miller's stole Hercule Poirot's mustache, and it's too small for him !!
Hahahaha
L29 for me 🤠✌️
Sweet =)
I would love to have you check out a 1980s Corvette. Or 1980s Camaro.
I will add that to the list =)
18:56 Can’t miss investment. I was at Barrett Jackson in West Palm a couple weeks ago. A white ‘37 812 Westchester crossed the block at 26,800.00 which I thought was a really good price. With your permission, could I post a link to one of my recent Shorts that features a snippet of it?
Yeah link it.. $26k for this car is a steal for this car
My choice is definitely the 810.
Sweet =)