Reference to the initial idea for Star Trek: Andromeda (which became the standalone series, Andromeda) that Roddenberry had developed. In the concept, the hero Federation ship would be trapped for 50 years because of not hitting the speed and angle for the slingshot right.
The black hole visuals look great, and I love how this episode actually remembers all the weird time/light dilation stuff that happens around black holes and how the crew actually uses that to their advantage.
@@mysticmarble94not necessarily. A black whole with the mass of Earth would be about the size of a ping pong ball, but again with the same mass as Earth, and so the same gravity as Earth too. A black hole with the same mass as the sun would only be about 6km in diameter. So the black hole from this show might not be as big as you’d expect, but in reality that thing is extreeemly massive. I think realistically they should’ve had to have went to warp speed to escape it’s pull.
@@mysticmarble94 One of the Enterprise's computer diagrams in the episode states that this black hole only has a radius of 15.35 kilometres, and has 7.4 times the mass of our Sun. It's nowhere near the size of Gargantua from Interstellar (100 million solar masses.)
For the first time in tv/movie history we can say that they got the black hole visualization spot on. Interstellar was first but it wasn't confirmed yet back in 2014.
@@travisfoster1071 not really. Doesn't work that way. Interstellar was correct because the modelling was based on General relativity, which is one of the most confirmed things in physics. The reason is just math and geometry. What made Interstellar different was that they bothered to show the realistic thing, which Hollywood isn't known for.
This is the problem with modern Trek (and most modern science fiction for that matter) They're more concerned with visuals than with story...... Why are they encountering the Gorn and dealing with them like a routine species? The Federation was not aware of the Gorn until Kirk encountered them. This is lazy writing and a misguided attempt at fan service.
@@markallen2984 and you’re confusing continuity with story. Star Trek has never been 100% consistent with its continuity. SNW is basically following the tradition of Enterprise in that it technically doesn’t contradict TOS because we don’t see the alien in question.
This is among the top, most badass scenes in all of Star Trek! Between the CG, music and intense acting, I felt like I was watching a movie!!! This production team keeps knocking the ball right out of the park! I LOVE this show!!....and they've shown just how the Enterprise is a totally awesome ship! ..."she'll hold"..... (and that Gorn ship sound....is that alien creepy or what??)
That interstellar time dilation was grossly overstated. 1) a black hole would need to be spinning at light speed to cause dilation that intense, and it's highly unlikely a black hole can spin that fast. 2) even if a black hole could spin that fast, time dilation of that extent would only happen in the black hole's photosphere directly above the event horizon. So if we want to talk about interstellar, an accurate time dilation on Miller's Planet should have been 1.05 hours per hour. Not 7 years per hour. The world would need to have been skimming the event horizon to get 7 years per hour
The visual effects are quite good, even if the scale of those effects are off by a factor of decillions. That ship would not even be 1 pixel, compared to the area of space that that black hole resides. That ship would be a grain of sand compared to the size of the Earth.
I've always visualized event horizons of black holes massive enough to have accretion disks around their even horizons to be larger than typical stars. I'd have to do some research on that but for some reason, an object this size seems more like it'd cause gravitational lensing only.
I love how people talk about how "scientifically accurate" this scene is, ignoring the fact that there's a spaceship that travels through time making farting sounds in outer space, with nobody wearing seatbelts that somehow manage not to fall out of their chairs during a black hole encounter.
Or how the sounds of external explosions can be heard,,, in space. It's like those binocular frames the still.. Two intersecting circles they like to use to tell us we are seeing the object through a pair of binoculars. I didn't realize how stupid we viewers are.
@@donaldboyer8182 Its just funny how people talk about scientifically accurate when film itself involves a million manipulated things, not the least of which is time itself
I just saw the recent episode of Star Trek Enterprise which takes place seven years into the future. I hope they don't get rid of Anson Mount too quickly because he's a terrific actor. I hope they give the show six seasons because I wanna see the missing Captain Pike adventures. Kirk should come in on the final season.
I think for season 2, well, it looks like the Gorn are going to be the main villains and threat for this series. For TNG, it was the Borg. For DS9, it was the Dominion. Voyager had two threats which were Species 8472 and the Borg....again. They need to give Discovery a main villain or Arch Nemesis if you will. Picard had the Borg Queen. Sisko had Ghul Dukat. And well, Janeway also had the Borg Queen. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Only problem here is the time dilation. It would have taken years,...decades maybe depending on the black hole's mass....to make a close slingshot orbit like that.
Fun fact: the time dilation distance in Interstellar was grossly overstated. Yes, black holes cause time disruptions, but really, you need to be right above the event horizon to experience most of the dilation effect
Amazing how often the image created of a black hole for Interstellar has been used since it was released. And Ortegas....."accretion disk in sight". YOU THINK?! You can't MISS seeing it!!!!
Yes that was good but the PROBLEM is that 50 years would have elapsed for the rest of the galaxy. The Enterprise would show up about 50 years later. Nothing said about this? 🤔
@@dasdingollas7773 Any time you would do a close orbit like that around a black hole you would lose many years subjective time to an outside observer. Basic Einstinean physics my friend.
@@dasdingollas7773 My bad. I don't know, it depends on the black holes mass and the orbit it took. One book I read about a guy who flew just outside the event horizon of the Milky Way's core black hole in a similar fashion to slingshot himself on a course back to Earth lost 3 MILLION years in 20 minutes. But that was based on the black holes mass, the author did the calculations based on the knowledge of the time.
@@montylc2001 3 million years sounds quite a lot. Such time dilation can only be achieved if you are almost at event horizon. You can calculate the dilation effect with the Lorentz equation adjusting the speed of the observer with the equivalent distance to escape the gravity of black hole at the event horizon where the necessary speed to escape is 'c'. We can also consider that the ship could create a warp bubble to protect the crew from this effect.
Singularities are very small compared to their mass. A singularity with the mass of our sun would be small enough to fit inside a house, if I recall correctly.
@@skyserf no, most are fairly small. That's why Sagittarius is called a "supermassive" black hole. It's not normal size by any stretch of the imagination.
@@AlexandarHullRichter There are at least 19 black holes in the Milky Way Galaxy, none of which are smaller than small state. They are all much larger than the one depicted in SNW 1x04.
@@skyserf It's obviously not one of those 19 then. There are also at least 19 stars that are hundreds of solar masses, probably in close proximity to those particular black holes. That particular sample size doesn't describe all stars either.
There is one thing that i either dont get or am critical about: the bending of the ring looks like its actually, physically happening - as if matter/plasma arround black hole is flowing the way we see it But to my knowlege this is only an optic illusion. Shouldnt the distortion change, depending on the distance to event horizon?
The accretion disc would actually be spinning if that is what you are asking. It has the angular momentum of everything falling into it. The difference that they didn't show is that the redshift/blueshift is different depending on whether you are looking upstream or downstream because it is spinning so fast, aka "relativistic speeds"
@@stuntmonkey00 My point is; should we be unable to see the disc from different angles, since it is an optic illusion and not an object (so to say). (Or an optic illusion of the physical disc).
@@marcinzysko1653 You're right. The closer they get, the more light from the part of the accretion disc on the other side would "fall" on top of them. That vertical part, top and bottom, would close in on them from the top and bottom, seemingly chomping them. Of course, it depends on how close the actually get. Also, as you said, you wouldn't be able to see the "vertical" part from the side, it would always face you.
Once the hold explosively vents out, there is no more air draft, just vacuum. I have yet to see a science fiction show get this right. Great visuals otherwise
Doesn't the ship keep accelerating during the slingshot maneuver? Maybe the inertial dampeners don't work properly while the thing gets vented 🤔 Then it would not be air leaving the ship, but the inertia that is the problem.
This black hole scene is absolutely gorgeous! CGI & Starship Enterprise has come a far way since Sept 1966. Fast forward to 2023 Space & NCC1701 combined is awesome and really beautiful to watch, scenes with the mess hall, engineering and the bridge, everything has outdone itself. This is the ultimate fantasy! ~Scientific fact Warp 8 (NCC1701 top speed) is 512 times the speed of light *Note nothing can go faster than the speed of light. *Special relativity also states if something were to exceed this limit it would move Backward in Time according to the theory.. therefore Warp Speed 1-10 is pure fantasy. Even Artificial Intelligence wouldn't be able to create a Warp factor of 0.9 to1.0. *Einstein's theory states as an object with mass approaches the speed of light its mass increases which means more energy is required to maintain the acceleration to the speed of light that means infinite energy is required. Sure a hyperfast Warp Bubble is theorized as travelling faster than light Alcubierre Drive without breaking physical laws but the construction of such a drive is not possible. The drive implies a negative energy density and requires exotic matter or manipulation of dark energy. Even at a factor of 0.8 the speed of light AI technology is required to maintain this velocity. Unfortunately humans cannot travel without endangering themselves to space radiation which will penetrate at molecular level...
Eistein is was apparently wrong and never came to grips with quantum relativity. Quarks and anti-quarks are strange things, all 12 of them. Particles that are also waves and have mass. Entanglement. If Einstein were alive today, he would never leave his lab:). Would either have gotten along very well with Hawking or hated him lol. The warp drive in star trek works via forming a subspace bubble around the ship, in effect a distortion wave on which the ship road...it also had the effect of reducing the inertial mass of any object inside the bubble. Stellar debris and particles were swept from the front of the ship by the main deflector array via a combination of particle emitters and tractor beams. If you thought the warp drives on federation ships were fancy, the Romulans used artificial quantum singularities as a power source:) Type 2 civ is gonna do type 2 stuff.
Black hole sun, won't you come, and wash away the rain.......lol reminds me of the TFO in star trek online when you're near a black hole. Fun, but irritating. Awesome effects too
It is related to black role rotation. This phenomenon can also be seen on solar systems, planets with rings, and satellites from planets. Check another video with title: "Why All The Planets Are On The Same Orbital Plane"
Odd that in TOS the Enterprise never encountered a singularity that I can recall. Same goes for the Star Wars franchise. Black holes were predicted theoretically by physics and astronomy way before the debut of Trek in 1966. Stephens Hawking's models of these objects are even more bizarre than represented here because of the time/light/gravitational distortions around them.
@@medson71 Yes! I also saw the episode in which the Enterprise got flung to the 1960's and was spotted as a UFO.🛸 A variation of this phenomena was how the Enterprise deliberately travelled to the 1960's a second time in the episode Gary-7.
I'm some what of a Star Wars lore nut job. The most well known black hole mention is the Maw and the Maw Installation near it. It's a cluster of black holes that no one dares approach. Turns out the reason it exists is the Maw is essentially a prison for a eldritch horror she-demon Abeloth. Not Disney canon but when it comes to Star Wars, legends content is considered canon and no one cares. Outside the Maw.........I can't accurately recall any other mention of a singularity. The Unknown Regions are incredibly dangerous and challenging to navigate due to all manner of stellar anomalies, gravity wells being one such thing but never specified as black holes.
Help me out here, moonlight. If my memory serves, The Maw is also maintained by two ancient space stations - Centerpoint and Sinkhole Stations, if I recall correctly - assembled by Killik Hives under the direction of the Ones of Mortis. In other words, they aren't just black holes, they are ARTIFICIAL black holes, enough of them to form a literal star cluster-sized cage. Centerpoint was used as a superweapon in the Yuuzhan Vong war, and was destroyed later in the war (again, if memory serves), leaving Sinkhole Station to maintain the Maw... this was not enough, and Abeloth breaks free shortly thereafter, starting a multi-novel arc around chasing and defeating her.
@@ananonymousnerd.2179 Making me chizzle of the rust on my holocrons XD Both Centerpoint and Sinkhole are of similar designs with both being massive planet pulling tractor beam stations. Centerpoint I think was at Corellia or was destroyed near Corellia by the Vong. Sinkhole was in the Maw cluster for certain but I don't remember if it was used to create the Maw black holes or maintain them or the like. Regardless, yes the Maw's are artifcal or at least they were tractor beamed into position by artifical means. Ordered by the Celestials, probably modern day Mortis Gods (unconfirmed), in order to contain Abeloth, who escaped and destroyed Sinkhole.
@@strategoo it left, the idea was to make it think that the enterprise was destroyed so they'd stop hunting them down since the enterprise has already been badly damaged at this point
@@strategoo The big Gorn ship thought the Enterprise blew up trying to go near the black hole, so they left. The Enterprise was badly damaged and they had to try to figure out how to escape the Gorn, with the knowledge the Gorn would not give up a hunt. So they made the Gorn think there was nothing left to hunt
This Little Maneuver's Gonna Cost Us 51 Years.
It’s ok… a little slingshot maneuver around a star will fix that 👍
You don't sound bad pushing it to 120
@@TriplePistol Welcome to Cooper Station, Sir.
@@fuzziebunniemighty nice of you to name a space station after me
Reference to the initial idea for Star Trek: Andromeda (which became the standalone series, Andromeda) that Roddenberry had developed. In the concept, the hero Federation ship would be trapped for 50 years because of not hitting the speed and angle for the slingshot right.
The black hole visuals look great, and I love how this episode actually remembers all the weird time/light dilation stuff that happens around black holes and how the crew actually uses that to their advantage.
All thanks to interstellar
@@kelanbreen8568 Now, every black hole is going to be exactly like the one in "Interstellar."
I feel like the size is all off.
Shouldn't any celestial structure like this be much much bigger compared to a space ship ?
@@mysticmarble94not necessarily. A black whole with the mass of Earth would be about the size of a ping pong ball, but again with the same mass as Earth, and so the same gravity as Earth too. A black hole with the same mass as the sun would only be about 6km in diameter. So the black hole from this show might not be as big as you’d expect, but in reality that thing is extreeemly massive. I think realistically they should’ve had to have went to warp speed to escape it’s pull.
@@mysticmarble94 One of the Enterprise's computer diagrams in the episode states that this black hole only has a radius of 15.35 kilometres, and has 7.4 times the mass of our Sun. It's nowhere near the size of Gargantua from Interstellar (100 million solar masses.)
For the first time in tv/movie history we can say that they got the black hole visualization spot on. Interstellar was first but it wasn't confirmed yet back in 2014.
Still probably not correct, physics has changed, and will continue to change.
@@travisfoster1071 The recent black hole photos confirm it's damn close. In radio waves, yes, but that's hard to visualize in a tv show.
@@travisfoster1071 not really. Doesn't work that way. Interstellar was correct because the modelling was based on General relativity, which is one of the most confirmed things in physics. The reason is just math and geometry. What made Interstellar different was that they bothered to show the realistic thing, which Hollywood isn't known for.
This is the problem with modern Trek (and most modern science fiction for that matter) They're more concerned with visuals than with story...... Why are they encountering the Gorn and dealing with them like a routine species? The Federation was not aware of the Gorn until Kirk encountered them. This is lazy writing and a misguided attempt at fan service.
@@markallen2984 and you’re confusing continuity with story. Star Trek has never been 100% consistent with its continuity. SNW is basically following the tradition of Enterprise in that it technically doesn’t contradict TOS because we don’t see the alien in question.
1:37 Super dope how fireball flows around
Love how accurate their depiction of the Black Hole was in this episode.
It's missing its doppler effect. Black holes are meant to look brighter and bluer on one side than the other
I am so ready for a Black Hole movie now
Strange New Worlds is certainly beautiful to look at.
This is among the top, most badass scenes in all of Star Trek! Between the CG, music and intense acting, I felt like I was watching a movie!!! This production team keeps knocking the ball right out of the park! I LOVE this show!!....and they've shown just how the Enterprise is a totally awesome ship! ..."she'll hold"..... (and that Gorn ship sound....is that alien creepy or what??)
Yeesh this show is mediocre at best. The show is so teenybopper
@@J.Wolf90 nope it’s pretty great.
Haters gonna hate
Only 4 episodes in and the Enterprise is damaged to hell..lol
Par for the course. When Kirk rendezvoused at K7 the ship was all patched together and jury-rigged, in need of time at space dock.
That is one beautiful black hole
The pike maneuver
Never mind the time dilation that would have occurred while passing that close to a block hole. They'd have hoped out like what, 50 years later.
That interstellar time dilation was grossly overstated.
1) a black hole would need to be spinning at light speed to cause dilation that intense, and it's highly unlikely a black hole can spin that fast.
2) even if a black hole could spin that fast, time dilation of that extent would only happen in the black hole's photosphere directly above the event horizon.
So if we want to talk about interstellar, an accurate time dilation on Miller's Planet should have been 1.05 hours per hour. Not 7 years per hour. The world would need to have been skimming the event horizon to get 7 years per hour
The visual effects are quite good, even if the scale of those effects are off by a factor of decillions.
That ship would not even be 1 pixel, compared to the area of space that that black hole resides.
That ship would be a grain of sand compared to the size of the Earth.
As a Star Wars Fan I Gotta gebe credits to Star trek for this awesome Block hole !!
🤜🤛
I've always visualized event horizons of black holes massive enough to have accretion disks around their even horizons to be larger than typical stars. I'd have to do some research on that but for some reason, an object this size seems more like it'd cause gravitational lensing only.
This episode was better than all Star Wars sequels. Just Awsome.
I love how people talk about how "scientifically accurate" this scene is, ignoring the fact that there's a spaceship that travels through time making farting sounds in outer space, with nobody wearing seatbelts that somehow manage not to fall out of their chairs during a black hole encounter.
Or how the sounds of external explosions can be heard,,, in space. It's like those binocular frames the still.. Two intersecting circles they like to use to tell us we are seeing the object through a pair of binoculars. I didn't realize how stupid we viewers are.
@@donaldboyer8182 Its just funny how people talk about scientifically accurate when film itself involves a million manipulated things, not the least of which is time itself
I love this scene. And the music is spot on.
Ah the INTERSTELLAR black hole makes a return
I just saw the recent episode of Star Trek Enterprise which takes place seven years into the future. I hope they don't get rid of Anson Mount too quickly because he's a terrific actor. I hope they give the show six seasons because I wanna see the missing Captain Pike adventures. Kirk should come in on the final season.
A great episode one of best so far.
Pro tip: black holes actually look like this but when flying into one, you do it REALLY FAST.
I think for season 2, well, it looks like the Gorn are going to be the main villains and threat for this series. For TNG, it was the Borg. For DS9, it was the Dominion. Voyager had two threats which were Species 8472 and the Borg....again. They need to give Discovery a main villain or Arch Nemesis if you will. Picard had the Borg Queen. Sisko had Ghul Dukat. And well, Janeway also had the Borg Queen. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Actualy you're right.
Even a Federation starship wouldn't survive that. But it's pretty cool to watch
Looks like that first ship went into the accretion disk.
The most destructive force in any galaxy.
I can see a lot of Interstellar inspiration in this scene.
Daaaaaamnnnn soooo awesome!
"Accretion disk in sight!" I should think so. You are inside it.
The tension of knowing Pike has to live makes this exciting.
This is my favorite episode.
this reminds me of my childhood
Esto es sublime! Love it!
What happened to Star Fleet having uniform approved hair styles? That helmsmen needs reprimand.
Only problem here is the time dilation. It would have taken years,...decades maybe depending on the black hole's mass....to make a close slingshot orbit like that.
Maybe they countered the time dilation with the warp engines?
my guy they regularly travel faster than the speed of light but don't experience time dilation because of "technology". just roll with it.
@@michaelckeene That´s because,technically,at warp a ship is not moving at all..They literally bend space itself around the ship
@@NashmanNash I’m aware of warp, but this is and has always been soft sci fi. It might as well be because of magic engine gremlins.
@@michaelckeene Nah..the gremlins only mess with Janeways replicator
Fun fact: the time dilation distance in Interstellar was grossly overstated.
Yes, black holes cause time disruptions, but really, you need to be right above the event horizon to experience most of the dilation effect
Amazing how often the image created of a black hole for Interstellar has been used since it was released.
And Ortegas....."accretion disk in sight". YOU THINK?! You can't MISS seeing it!!!!
The one instance Ortegas is speaking properly in turn and you criticise her? 😆
@@wkcia I'm like CinemaSins....I ding a LOT of things in TV/Film that are like "fucking duh!" moments. lol
Cause it is more scientifically accurate depiction of how a black hole should look, we even got actually images of a black hole now.
This is the second time we have seen an enterprise fighting again to a black hole.
It can't be is that gargatua?!?
Yes that was good but the PROBLEM is that 50 years would have elapsed for the rest of the galaxy. The Enterprise would show up about 50 years later. Nothing said about this? 🤔
How do you come to this value? It was informed on the episode?
@@dasdingollas7773 Any time you would do a close orbit like that around a black hole you would lose many years subjective time to an outside observer. Basic Einstinean physics my friend.
@@montylc2001 Indeed. But I was questioning about the elapsed time, not the time dilation effect. How do we know it is not 10, 100, 300 years...
@@dasdingollas7773 My bad. I don't know, it depends on the black holes mass and the orbit it took. One book I read about a guy who flew just outside the event horizon of the Milky Way's core black hole in a similar fashion to slingshot himself on a course back to Earth lost 3 MILLION years in 20 minutes. But that was based on the black holes mass, the author did the calculations based on the knowledge of the time.
@@montylc2001 3 million years sounds quite a lot. Such time dilation can only be achieved if you are almost at event horizon. You can calculate the dilation effect with the Lorentz equation adjusting the speed of the observer with the equivalent distance to escape the gravity of black hole at the event horizon where the necessary speed to escape is 'c'. We can also consider that the ship could create a warp bubble to protect the crew from this effect.
That must be a small singularity.
Singularities are very small compared to their mass. A singularity with the mass of our sun would be small enough to fit inside a house, if I recall correctly.
@@AlexandarHullRichter Most are very large. Sagittarius A, the black hole at the center of our galaxy that has a radius of 12,700,000 km.
@@skyserf no, most are fairly small. That's why Sagittarius is called a "supermassive" black hole. It's not normal size by any stretch of the imagination.
@@AlexandarHullRichter There are at least 19 black holes in the Milky Way Galaxy, none of which are smaller than small state. They are all much larger than the one depicted in SNW 1x04.
@@skyserf It's obviously not one of those 19 then. There are also at least 19 stars that are hundreds of solar masses, probably in close proximity to those particular black holes. That particular sample size doesn't describe all stars either.
There is one thing that i either dont get or am critical about:
the bending of the ring looks like its actually, physically happening - as if matter/plasma arround black hole is flowing the way we see it
But to my knowlege this is only an optic illusion. Shouldnt the distortion change, depending on the distance to event horizon?
Yes. But it seems they're on the exterior rings all the time in this scene...
The accretion disc would actually be spinning if that is what you are asking. It has the angular momentum of everything falling into it. The difference that they didn't show is that the redshift/blueshift is different depending on whether you are looking upstream or downstream because it is spinning so fast, aka "relativistic speeds"
@@stuntmonkey00 My point is; should we be unable to see the disc from different angles, since it is an optic illusion and not an object (so to say). (Or an optic illusion of the physical disc).
@@marcinzysko1653 You're right. The closer they get, the more light from the part of the accretion disc on the other side would "fall" on top of them. That vertical part, top and bottom, would close in on them from the top and bottom, seemingly chomping them. Of course, it depends on how close the actually get. Also, as you said, you wouldn't be able to see the "vertical" part from the side, it would always face you.
Once the hold explosively vents out, there is no more air draft, just vacuum. I have yet to see a science fiction show get this right. Great visuals otherwise
Doesn't the ship keep accelerating during the slingshot maneuver? Maybe the inertial dampeners don't work properly while the thing gets vented 🤔
Then it would not be air leaving the ship, but the inertia that is the problem.
This black hole reminds me of Gargantua from Interstellar
This black hole scene is absolutely gorgeous! CGI & Starship Enterprise has come a far way since Sept 1966. Fast forward to 2023 Space & NCC1701 combined is awesome and really beautiful to watch, scenes with the mess hall, engineering and the bridge, everything has outdone itself. This is the ultimate fantasy! ~Scientific fact Warp 8 (NCC1701 top speed) is 512 times the speed of light *Note nothing can go faster than the speed of light. *Special relativity also states if something were to exceed this limit it would move Backward in Time according to the theory.. therefore Warp Speed 1-10 is pure fantasy. Even Artificial Intelligence wouldn't be able to create a Warp factor of 0.9 to1.0. *Einstein's theory states as an object with mass approaches the speed of light its mass increases which means more energy is required to maintain the acceleration to the speed of light that means infinite energy is required. Sure a hyperfast Warp Bubble is theorized as travelling faster than light Alcubierre Drive without breaking physical laws but the construction of such a drive is not possible. The drive implies a negative energy density and requires exotic matter or manipulation of dark energy. Even at a factor of 0.8 the speed of light AI technology is required to maintain this velocity. Unfortunately humans cannot travel without endangering themselves to space radiation which will penetrate at molecular level...
Eistein is was apparently wrong and never came to grips with quantum relativity. Quarks and anti-quarks are strange things, all 12 of them. Particles that are also waves and have mass. Entanglement. If Einstein were alive today, he would never leave his lab:). Would either have gotten along very well with Hawking or hated him lol. The warp drive in star trek works via forming a subspace bubble around the ship, in effect a distortion wave on which the ship road...it also had the effect of reducing the inertial mass of any object inside the bubble. Stellar debris and particles were swept from the front of the ship by the main deflector array via a combination of particle emitters and tractor beams. If you thought the warp drives on federation ships were fancy, the Romulans used artificial quantum singularities as a power source:) Type 2 civ is gonna do type 2 stuff.
Black hole sun, won't you come, and wash away the rain.......lol reminds me of the TFO in star trek online when you're near a black hole. Fun, but irritating. Awesome effects too
youtube video compression really sucks... :(
Anyone notice that some of the red lights on the bridge are missing?
0:49
Looks like these two watched Twister before the events of this episode. 😉
Awww. Kumbaiya
why are black holes depicted with accretion disks at right angles . . ?
It is related to black role rotation. This phenomenon can also be seen on solar systems, planets with rings, and satellites from planets. Check another video with title: "Why All The Planets Are On The Same Orbital Plane"
interstellar anyone?
Odd that in TOS the Enterprise never encountered a singularity that I can recall. Same goes for the Star Wars franchise. Black holes were predicted theoretically by physics and astronomy way before the debut of Trek in 1966. Stephens Hawking's models of these objects are even more bizarre than represented here because of the time/light/gravitational distortions around them.
We don't see it on screen but it is an 'uncharted' black hole that set the events that makes the Enterprise goes back in time to the 1960's.
@@medson71 Yes! I also saw the episode in which the Enterprise got flung to the 1960's and was spotted as a UFO.🛸
A variation of this phenomena was how the Enterprise deliberately travelled to the 1960's a second time in the episode
Gary-7.
I'm some what of a Star Wars lore nut job. The most well known black hole mention is the Maw and the Maw Installation near it. It's a cluster of black holes that no one dares approach.
Turns out the reason it exists is the Maw is essentially a prison for a eldritch horror she-demon Abeloth. Not Disney canon but when it comes to Star Wars, legends content is considered canon and no one cares.
Outside the Maw.........I can't accurately recall any other mention of a singularity. The Unknown Regions are incredibly dangerous and challenging to navigate due to all manner of stellar anomalies, gravity wells being one such thing but never specified as black holes.
Help me out here, moonlight. If my memory serves, The Maw is also maintained by two ancient space stations - Centerpoint and Sinkhole Stations, if I recall correctly - assembled by Killik Hives under the direction of the Ones of Mortis. In other words, they aren't just black holes, they are ARTIFICIAL black holes, enough of them to form a literal star cluster-sized cage.
Centerpoint was used as a superweapon in the Yuuzhan Vong war, and was destroyed later in the war (again, if memory serves), leaving Sinkhole Station to maintain the Maw... this was not enough, and Abeloth breaks free shortly thereafter, starting a multi-novel arc around chasing and defeating her.
@@ananonymousnerd.2179
Making me chizzle of the rust on my holocrons XD
Both Centerpoint and Sinkhole are of similar designs with both being massive planet pulling tractor beam stations. Centerpoint I think was at Corellia or was destroyed near Corellia by the Vong. Sinkhole was in the Maw cluster for certain but I don't remember if it was used to create the Maw black holes or maintain them or the like. Regardless, yes the Maw's are artifcal or at least they were tractor beamed into position by artifical means. Ordered by the Celestials, probably modern day Mortis Gods (unconfirmed), in order to contain Abeloth, who escaped and destroyed Sinkhole.
Why is the black hole smaller than a planet?
Black Holes can actually be pretty small. We've found one that's smaller than Earth!
@@nishantpradhan7828 True, but if so, it would not have a large accretion disk around it. That happens only with supermassive black holes
So who’s the other ship?
The Gorn
Hej, from Europe, where I can’t watch SNW. What happened to the big Gorn ship?
@@strategoo it left, the idea was to make it think that the enterprise was destroyed so they'd stop hunting them down since the enterprise has already been badly damaged at this point
@@strategoo The big Gorn ship thought the Enterprise blew up trying to go near the black hole, so they left. The Enterprise was badly damaged and they had to try to figure out how to escape the Gorn, with the knowledge the Gorn would not give up a hunt. So they made the Gorn think there was nothing left to hunt
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If you're that close your boned.
you're*
Is there any such thing as a white hole?
you have google.. you can goolge stuff.. why do you ask the comments ????????
theoretically
Same black hole as interstellar. Just saying.
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Interstellar black hole looked way better
That would be because it took 100 days to render each frame
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