Fire School Part 15 Pump Drill Fire,Learning the process
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Dave Canterbury, David Canterbury, The Pathfinder School,Bush Craft ,Survival skills, Historical Lore, Primitive Skills, Archery, Hunting, Trapping, Fishing, Navigation, Knives, Axes, Fire, Water, Shelter, Search and Rescue
You can't help but like an honest man. I love watching you come to a conclusion, to see your thought processes as you figure out new things and teach us new stuff. Well done.
Mr. Cantebury, thank you for your military service to our great nation on this memorial weekend. Semper fidelis!
can hardly wait each day or so to see what aspect of survival you are going to highlight. keep up the good work.
These are the types of videos I miss on this channel. I hope they make a come back
I have enjoyed making these in different manners for years.
I loved that you burned your way through the pine counter weight.
Great job Dave!
Pretty darn good for a first time around. Been studying the construction now for some time. Your video deffinetly pushed me now to schedule this in on my next day of "dirt" time. Thanks Dave Canterbury
Hahaha, you're a stud Dave Canterbury!
I truly enjoyed!
First pump drill I've actually seen made. Interesting concept.
Thanks Dave never seen one of those made before!
This is quite impressive, I saw Cody Lundin Make one of these but he didn't explain it the way you have, thanks for going into such great detail. This looks like it could be one of the easier primitive fire making sets I've seen, certainly has to be easier than spinning a spindle with your palms...ouch.
Great video! Now that you have your pump drill with a chuck, put a stone point on it and make a heavier, more centered weight. Your thoughts at the end were spot on!
Great job, Brother, really! That chuck system was genius.
Dave you the Man. JoeTeti and Bear Grylls cant hold a candle to you!!! Love your videos! I watch you every day!!!
Thanks Dave….Jeez, I never really could figure out why we needed the fly wheel. Awesome explanation.
Great video of learning process. Liked the close up of the board with pile of wood dust/embers. We had wondered how to make fire drill!
Dave thank you for your awesome instruction in all things bushcraft.Hope you and your family have a blessed memorial day.
Interesting technique Dave , nice to see your skills in making the pump drill. Thanks.
Nice to see you using the Jeff White Bush knife. great vid Dave
One of your best videos. It was fun to watch.
Dave, that was awesome! I am looking forward to attempting that here in the NW. Thanks Brother!
That was cool! Thanks Dave.
Great work Dave, first time I've seen that done.
Great video as usual Dave. Thanks
I can honestly say that is the first time I have ever seen that system built and used. I read about it in a book a long time ago that had a few interesting pictures and diagrams, but it is much more impresive to see it in motion. I do remember something about it possibly useing a stone or molded clay counterweight, I am going to have to research that. Thanks
Great vid Dave, looking forward to your oil watchcoat shelter !!!
Nice! Don't' forget the bowdrill for making holes...good oak spindle with some sand in the hole will drill a hole through soft wood quick like! So awesome that you can just take a concept and make it work like that. Good stuff.
Wow .. Awesome Dave !! Keep the videos coming brother ..
keep up the good work Dave
Thank you for another great instructional video.
Very impressive. First time I've seen this and liked a lot. Thank for that Marcio
Glad to see you using the PLSK1.
I laughed so hard when Dave said to burn the ends of the bankline with a lighter. He's making a primitive fire drill! You obviously wouldn't have a lighter if you had to make this drill to get fire!
Really cool Dave.
hi ! have made one recently and tried a couple of times with no success. Your video shows some improvements i can make. Thanks Dave
I really enjoy your videos. Can't wait to see more
Awesome demo, very cool!
Good Job Dave, very kewl, now ill have to go try one myself
Excellent demonstration and information
I'm glad you did this. Now I never have to. Thanks.
Very cool device. Thanks for sharing this. If nothing else, this would make for a good tool for drilling consistent holes in wood. That "bit" goes right through that soft wood. I wouldn't want to have to drill 100 holes with it. But if I was out in the wilderness and needed a couple of quick holes drilled, this tool would do it relatively easily.
GREAT. Now a set of drill bits from bone or stone for drilling holes.
My same idea, but I could forge a metal bit very easily to actually drill holes with. Love the chuck idea.
Great video Dave! Thank you for going through all the steps to show us. Definitely not a quick made fire set up. Just burning a hole through that fly wheel takes a lot of time.
A new project to try. I learned something today. Thank you :)
Sweet brother. Nice set!
get it Dave good work my man
Luv the pump drill.
I like the idea of putting a chuck system in a bow drill system.
Nice. i need to try this. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Sounded like you also invented a predator call there for a few moments. Nice video. Thanks.
Thanks dave endeaver to persevere
Thanks for the video Dave. aside from making fire, I think the value of learning how to make such a tool is that it could be used as an actual drill to make holes for different building purposes in a primitive situation. I'm sure if it is refined some more it would be quite efficient for such a task. Just my two cents. :)
the drill stalls when you lift the handle upwards; if you just let inertia wind the string when the handle is going up you wont have that problem. it seems like you noticed though near the end.
the counter weight might actually act as a fly wheel too, maybe mess around with a larger diameter one?
I like your channel always usable information and you don't whine about things, like the racoons got into the chickens or just the doldrums about a hike or such... keep up the good work... and thank you...
Counter weight does not have to be round the piece you made for the pump handle could be shorter to be more effective and if you had cut it in half you could make pump handle and counter weight out of same piece bore hope through both
Also in the interest of making pump drill faster the pumpm handle does not have to have a hole in it .... it can ride on the side of spindle.....
A shorter pump handle gives more down force also if you put hole through spindle for cordage and have shortpiece above that you can use a socket to increase down force
My fav method of making counterweight is make it thin and larger diameter..... larger diameter needs less weight to store energy
2 fav tools in the woods are a spoke shave because it can be used as a froe...... And a combo bow saw hand drill I make ...... With one adjustable wood bit from 1/2 inch to 3/4 fits most needs for building camp stools and chairs and is so versatile I would rather have it than any other tool including Any fire starting tools
Flywheel on a bowdrill.. I like the concept.
Never seen this before,if you had a camp or site that was a more of a permanent site then a visit this would be a great thing to have made for use anytime around the camp.
Nice video I'll have to give it a try sometime.
For the chuck, make an "L" shaped shelf that you can match with the poplar bit, then wrap it to hold it in place.
Great job
as cool as a burtonsville rig :)...as always a good watch ATB
not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but physics wise, the larger diameter the weight the more efficient the rig will be. longer spindle is great but then you need a longer press board as well. you would be well served to have a 12 inch log that's roughly 3 inches in thickness.
And sounds like a good project for turkey season
Hahaha awesome Dave, I imagine hafting some elongated oval flint heads would turn this into a simple machine drill?
thank you!
that is cool and good job
i feel it you kept a piece of plate steel in your pack it would aid in the flywheel effect on the pump drill. a piece of plate 1/4 inch thick x 6 inch round with a hole in the middle of it. or a weight lifting plate. it could be a concrete poured plastic covered type too. if the pump handle isn't quite wide enough for the spindle of the drill to go through it. to the point the handle may break in the process of making fire. you can whittle down the spindle a little more. or find a bigger limb to make a new handle.
Looks to me like you could use that setup for a lot of things beside fire. Could be very useful to someone as a tool.
Thanks
If you put the pump drill under a brace board and put your chest on it (about heart high location), that is your downward pressure.
Use your arms below you for your aerobic exercise of (French press) downward push and(biceps) upwards pull.
This keeps the string intact and doesn't make you make more heat (caloric burn) than the fire pump!
sry dave but i laugh so hard on the #1 thing: stop hittin my face twice...but anyway....this is great
If the crossbar was longer, I think it would make it more stable and give more speed to the bit because of the added amount of string and the tighter the wind will be on the spindle.
Outstanding
That's really complicated but that's really cool...
casual observation: If you were to make a bit that had a sharp rock stuck in it you could use that rig to drill holes in wood bone or other stuff even rock if you used a hard stone to drill a soft stone.
Enjoyed watching, great series for sure. I was wondering if the weight could be used to jam the chuck shut and so hold the wieght tight and close the chuck at the same time. Saving the cordage.
Very interesting. Seems to work pretty well.
:-)
Well like you said the eastern woodlands is a little humid maybe for the rubbing sticks technique, the chuck is a great idea. I'm going to make an attempt at making one. I live in ohio too so I don't guarantee success creating flame either. If the environmental conditions were right that would definitely work. No argument there.
Sweet!
cool!
this must be the most complicated method for a primitive fire i have ever seen in my life
loved this video :)
U the man Dave... Dual Survival is going down the toilet since U left. Its Obvious.
JW
if you went a little shorter with the handle i think it would be a bit better too. great vid dave
Instead of making a longer spindle you might also use a shorter Handel/ pump bar to get more cord on the spindle to make more RPM's
I'm glad your doing this one because this is something I've never tried. Seems like more work then it's worth. What are your personal thoughts now that you've done it?
That was bad ass
interesting vid , would it be quicker to tie a couple of rocks for your fly wheel bit. one advantage with this machine is the strings last longer than on a bow drill.
Neat!
Primitive fire , its my fav way. I have made them big , I have made the small. It looked like you bar could me shortened to give you 5 to 6 twists on your spindle . Looked like you where only geting about 3.
I think that your cordage was too long for that spindle by about 2 inches. Just like an engine shorter stroke equals hifher rpm. Also the winding and unwinding will stretch the cord so you need to account for that. Just my 2
cents. But good job. The chuck looked great
Hey Dave, thanks for the great videos. Could you tell me about how long it took to burn through that counterbalance weight?
I wonder if the grinding wheel will throw sparks from grinding mildsteel or other rockswhile it is turning thanks Dave
Excellent video sir. What would be the advantage, if any, of this pump drill vs a bow drill?
-Jacko
rather than or maybe in addition to a longer spindle you might want it a little thinner which would also give you more revelutions.
Another strong vid! How long did it take you to make your set start to finish?
Great job, but if you have fire to bore through the counter weight.... do you really need the pump?? Lol good video!
frickin beast
Tier 1 of WoodCraft
very cool, the ability to have a "chuck" is ideal. Would you say that this a more for a "base camp" no so much something that you carry around with you?
Cool vid and all, but I had to laugh when you used fire to create something that can potentially make a fire when someone is in a situation where they don't have any other fire making resources! I mean that to be friendly. Love this channel. Take care.
Ever hear of the "Next Fire" concept?
Agree with duxdawg. I think the this type of drills was meant to be used a permanent outfit for making fire in ancient times.
Of course, guys. As I said, it's a friendly comment. I agree with him though, too much sugar for a dime here. Nice concept to know, but there are other, easier ways to get the next fire.
I was told a 1/4 inch drill bit and pliers are a good thing to have in a camp set
is it and would it made this process easier?