PRE PATCH 1.14 Highfleet Shipbuilding - Upgrading the Sevastopol
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2021
- As of patch 1.14 (November 2021) this refit is no longer possible. I will get a new one on the channel asap!
I have been talking about upgrading the Sevastopol from the 'hanger queen' default fit-out for a long time in my campaign. In this video I go over some simple changes to the Sevastopol and then continue onward until the refit I am going to use in my playthrough for the endgame. - Hry
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…Oh, the absolute TROUBLE you’re planning for the Sevestapol to get into…I like.
It's getting buff!
I feel like they nerfed that gun elevation trick. Now you need a lot more hull block to elevate the gun to clear the large fuel tank
Yes they did nerf it, sadly this Sevastopol rebuild is no longer valid. I need to do an updated design for people to try out.
@@Phrosphor Yes Please, I've tried messing around with getting enough elevation to shoot over the tanks but it rapidly becomes unweildy getting it 3 z-levels high.
Reminded me of the time my dad bought that old Moskvich car and the first thing he did, was to disassemble and reassemble the engine completely, replaced fittings, bolts, rings, gasket, refilled the oil and replaced the wires.
The Sevastopol sure needs a overhaul when you first get it.
That is a great little anecdote. There is for sure a gem of a ship somewhere in there, you just need to replace everything first. It's a little bit of a 'My Grandfather's Axe' situtation.
Love the mouse spasm at 19:04. Kinds sums up my experience with the shipworks in this game. I really love the idea of designing my own flying warships but the tool are too obtuse for my smooth brain. That being said, the obtuse nature of the mechanics on the strategic map are definitely more my speed.
It definitely clicks after awhile, before this campaign I definitely had more hours I'm the shipbuilder than the campaign!
Interesting, I usually lean heavily into the sevastopol being a suport ship.
Usually start the game with a carrier and then scrap it and put the air wing on the sevastopol
I also like the idea of Sevastopol being a quirky hybrid cruiser, radar, missile, tanker and support ship over having a pocket battleship. That's a job for an upscaled Gladiator or something. Having separate ships for radar, missiles, aircraft and dogfighting is the optimal way to build ships, though.
5:49 - Although that is the image of an ECM module, I confirmed that it is not actually one. It's a piece that uses the image of the ECM but actually is not connected to any code. It does nothing. It doesn't add ECM to the ship. If you add an ECM module from the menu, you can see that it does add ECM to the ship and it has a picture, stats, etc. I can only assume that the Devs designed the Sevastopol early on and then missed that when they altered some code for the ECM. Maybe they did intend for the vanilla Sevastopol to have ECM, but it does not.
@@allaireko I gave them a bug report about it. I haven't checked if they fixed it or not.
I will actually swap out all the big guns for AK-100s. They are just straight out better, oh, and much cheaper. I've tested the efficiency between the same amount of AK-100s and 180mms a fixed number of ammo boxes can provide, and I cannot notice any difference at all after 10+ trials. AK-100s, in large quantity, are also capable of AA, and the sheer width of the barrage made them impossible to intercept, and they'll almost always hit the target, creating a constant stream of damage. In addition, they are cheaper. They are CHEAPER CHEAPER CHEAPER
I also really like the 130mm molots. When you're talking about cruisers, then I'm sure a ton of 100mm gets the job done, they're really flexible, but on frigates/ heavy corvettes, molots do really well against cruisers. Simply replacing the 100mms on a Gladiator with molots gets you a gnarly cruiser killer
I love the level of small details this game demands to be played RIGHT. Thank you for the vids, will try to do something to this effect.
I honestly feel like the Sevastopol is a secret tutorial ship to show you what not to do! Sadly the recent patches have made this specific design no longer possible. I need to revisit it when I get a chance.
I dont even have, played and idk if my pc will run Highfleet but damn i love watching highfleet videos about ship building, becasue it dont seem to spoil the story too much and stuff. I only seen footage from trailer and how combat work but i really wish im gonna put my hands on high fleet soon
Awesome, the game is crazy different from anything else I have ever played but I really enjoy it. It's pretty processor intensive which might cause you the most issues. Fingers crossed it works for you!
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you very much for this entertaining series. Just got into highfleet and I am nowhere near a sevastapol remodelling
Awesome! The game is so hard but so rewarding, though maybe I have bitten off more than I can chew with this rebuild...
hmm usually i turn the sevastopol into a carrier, im honestly surprised that it isnt like that in the first place
I am pretty certain it is like this to teach the player how to manage their ships. It's not combat effective, fast or durable in it's default config. But even small tweaks hugely upgrade it.
I think somewhere in the game it says the Sevastopol was pressed into service before it was fitted with the systems it was supposed to have.
I think the biggest issue with the Sevastopol is that it wastes so, so much weight and space on having those big engines and fuel tanks to support them. I mean, look at those big, chonky legs. Look at that slow speed. This thing shouldn't fly, it should _run._ A massive walking desert landship, more compact due to the removal of those fiddly, silly """engines""" with need for far less fuel. This may seem counterintuitive, but remember that your radar signature is massively reduced while on the ground. This thing becomes ultra stealthy when you turn it into a landship. You also no longer need to cover the downward direction with armor and guns, because nothing will be below you.
I really think this revolutionary design vision is the way to go, really _the_ way of the future.
You can select the area and press "DEL" to delete. No need to click one by one RMB.
Sooooo. Is it just me or does making the Sevastopol's main gum fire in all directions no longer work? I can get the gun to an elevated point, but the fuel tanks till block its line of fire.
Sadly not. This should work again in the next patch however.
@@Phrosphor do u know when the patch is planned fo come out?
i tryd in campaign and also in the ship building to fix svestas main gun, didnt work, fallowed second by second in the video, is it a patch thing maybe? thanks for the videos, been watching all of them, got high fleet, lovet it, last time stayd playing 24h a video game when i was like 15.. thats how good this game is. thank you!
Awesome! So glad to hear you are loving the game! Yeah they nerfed the elevation in the latest patch. I need to do a new video on it and update the description of this one.
Looks like you're getting into the game same time as me. Good luck, we'll need it.
Hey so this doesn't seem to work anymore. Either campaign when you replace the modules, it pops it up to that third level, but the gun angle is still blocked by the fuel tank. Not to mention, installing it is 24k which is hefty. Makes more sense then to just add a few molot 80s or 180mm and then replace the 57s with 37s or flares/polots
Yeah the latest patch killed this refit, they changed how the elevation works. I need to do a new video for it.
@@Phrosphor they should get rid of "elevation" entirely, its a 2 d game why pretend to be 3 d? it just makes the shipbulding stupid.
- I like what you did to elevate the three front turrets.
- I think keeping a FCR and the Sprints is worthwhile. One FCR really isn't expensive.
- You could have moved two 57mm turrets as I showed in my guide to give them much better arcs.
- I like your idea of elevating some of the RD-51's.
- I've found in combat testing that having two RD engines (either 51 or 59) touch leads to them both dying simultaneously when hit. This was a major vulnerability that I mentioned to you in the comments a while ago.
- I found that adding RD-51 engines along the bottom and then just moving the armor down, doesn't add any weight. I put a gap in between them so they don't all die together. It was also fairly quick to do during a campaign.
- In the two places where you removed one 4x4 fuel tank, I would have removed the one adacent to it as well for aesthetics.
- Where you removed the Zenit missiles, you could have removed the frame pieces they were on so the armor could just go straight across
- The escape pods could easily be better protected.
- I really didn't find elevating the 57mm turrets a big deal in combat testing. Just moving some of them to where they have better arcs worked a lot better for me than making the ship bigger to elevate them.
- With all your changes to the top, you could easily add a flight deck instead of adding that top armor. The flight deck in this game functions as armor as well.
Dr Frankenstein would be proud! 😃
It's ALIVE!
I can't for the life of me figure out how to elevate blocks so the engines function. I understand the concept of surrounding larger hull pieces and I can see the change in z-layer, but placed engines still show a blockage.
There was a patch last week that changed how elevation works :( I need to do a new video for the Sevastopol. I changed the video title and description but maybe I need to take it down as it keeps misleading people.
@@Phrosphor Ah, yeah. I just finished digging through the Steam discussion page and decided to check the patch notes. Sure enough, they list fixing an issue with "connecting engines." Cheeky buggers. I just picked the game up and was thoroughly confused. By the by, I just started watching your playthrough the other night. Really enjoying it.
can you make a refit that works in 1.14? I'm having some trouble in my first campaign attempts and could really use a hood sevastopol build. In particular when it comes to the thrust bc the static thrust engines now can't be mounted the way you showed...
I'm planning on doing a refit video soon, it is probably too late to help you though :(
Yea, they changed it, now you need one more layer of elevation for the guns to have 360 coverage...
You have to build a "pyramid" of 4 layers, center layer would be your gun, three remaining layers would have to be 2x2 blocks, then you can attach the fuel block next to it and it wont gonna get in the way
@@wkipsas Can you link me to where I can see this done? I am watching your hard campaign. Help a fan :3
Is there an updated guide to doing this? It no longer works? I followed your guide step by step and the hull does indeed pop out and look exactly as yours does but I still dont have the improved firing arc. I suspect the games developer doesnt want us to do this anymore.
The current patch breaks it but it will work again in the next one.
@@Phrosphor Made my own brawler instead. Costs 87k, has full field of fire, double thick heavy armour top and sides and 9 guns. Reasonable maneuverability. Can dodge heavy fire from strike groups. Eats them for breakfast.
does the elevation for the gun still work? i try to do what you did here but the turrent still blocked, infact i try elevation in general as well but it still doesn't seem to work :(
No they removed it in the latest patch! :(
@@Phrosphor no......................................................
@@wei270 yeah it's a real shame. I need to sit down and work out a new Sevastapol refit video soon.
This doesn't seem to work anymore, even with the hull bumped out on the 185mm gun it still sees the fuel tanks.
Yes sadly the 1.15 patch broke the elevation trick. I need to replace this video :(
@@Phrosphor yeah I mean, it's still a good build and moving the gun and bumping it out gives it WAY more field of fire than it did before just sucks you don't get a full field. It happens with the thrusters too 😔
For some reason the sponson trick is not working for me, the tanks still block the cannon. Did they remove this feature?
Sadly yes, they changed how elevation works. I need to make a new version of this video.
@@Phrosphor Sad!
is replacing all of the 180mm guns with D-80 molots a good idea?
You miss out on a lot of firepower, but gain a lot of ROF and shell velocity. You could fire a LOT of prox fuse that way though. I never thought of massed 130mm as a capital ship weapon. Needs testing for sure.
@@Phrosphor I've come across the claim that D-80 molot is the best weapon from a complete weight (ammo, generators, crew + weapon) point of view... you may want to look into that. One person on reddit even claimed the 180mm weapons are "garbage" and should always be sold.
Doesnt work for newest patch... Updated vid when?
1.14 has killed this whole design, I will need to look at a new video when I get time.
Highfleet has interesting jank to it
I do love me some jank.
Can you share the file
Sadly, this was nerfed to the ground, especially all the cool elevation tricks
Yes, it is a real shame. I plan to revisit the ship for a new build video when I get the chance.
@@Phrosphor I'm already somewhat hyped. Nice of you to respond to comments on old videos, too!
for some reason i cant elevate engines, and im in 1.15, but can do it to everything else. dose anyone else have this problem?
The latest patches removed this feature :(
@@Phrosphor balls, i found out that if you build a ship in an earlier version of the game some ilegal building techniques stay, like corner stacking
Is this still possible as of the current patch?
I cant seem to get it to behave
welp
guess Im just taking your flag ship blueprint then ^^
Sadly it isn't, the elevation, engine and armour changes have kind of killed this build. I need to do a new version of this video!
@@Phrosphor I would love to see it ^^
I went the opposite route. Removed all the guns save for the CIWS complement, kept the bridge and upper armor (for the most part) and replaced the tactical anti-ship missiles with strategic missiles. Added a bunch of large static engines, doubling the speed and increasing the range to about 700km. Also added a cheeky pylon with a radar jammer.
The biggest hurdle to making this ship useable is it's speed. 700KPH is impressive to get out of the vanilla Sevastopol, well done!
@@Phrosphor I mistyped that, the *speed* is about 300kph, I *increased* the *range* _by_ 700km. I'd be terrified if I managed to make the Sev outrun a lightning, lol.
@@Phrosphor To be fair though, 300kph is still quick enough to gain an edge on certain fleets.
The rear gun still won’t fire to the front for me?
The latest patch broke this redesign :( I am planning on a new video to replace it.
@@Phrosphor that sucks, I’ll be looking forward to it!
Make an airfield on top right side of ship.
Not a bad idea to make it a hybrid carrier.
Why not link all 4 tanks together into 1 mega tank?
I think I was worried about chain explosions taking one whole tank out at once.
@@Phrosphor I mean if they penetrate that far to hit the tank..
Can I get this blueprint?
Sadly this is for a very old version of the game and doesn't work anymore :(
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How about that i'm number 69.
you can edit this ship but cannot use it into campaign!!!!
What do you mean?
@@Phrosphor I can't use a ship designed by me as a flag ship in the game campaign
@@hdckdsadd Aha, you need to edit a gamefile to do it. This reddit post has the details. It's one line you need to add :) www.reddit.com/r/Highfleet/comments/oto8ac/my_masterpiece_the_oriflammeclass_command/h70zsxd/
Sje-va-stó-polj
Thank you, my accent is very muddy from living all over the place and sometimes I struggle with correct pronounciations.
@@Phrosphor It's a foreign, alien-foreign, language. It's not your «accent» - it's your understandable lack of any skills and preparations for voicing a foreign language.
Hm I find the fuel consumption quite concerning. Thicc girl.
It's a thirsty thirsty ship. One thing to keep in mind is that in combat you are not going to be moving around, and in the campaign at the moment it is making decent distance between fuel stops.
Going through your old videos now, I had to find this video from the ending of your hardmode run, and MAN typing "Phosphor Sevastapol" lead me to some harsh real world news stuff. Remind me to not do that again.
Oh no that sounds awful! I'm really sorry that happened!
@@Phrosphor Nah it's okay, just too many Russian names when I google and research this series with the current climate. So "Phosphorous Sevastopol" is what google thought I meant, and yeah.
I was just curious about the differences between ship building in 1.13 vs 1.14, and when you mentioned how your refit of the Sevastapol wouldn't work in 1.14 due to the changes I just kinda had to google what exactly your Sevastapol changes were.
A lot of people I've seen basically just convert the Sevastapol (or their flagship in general) into what you called a Screamer, or basically a floating box with radar and jamming that you hide out in the desert, so I was curious how you had modified it.
They need to get rid of part elevations entirely.
It's an interesting thing to build around, it's just too hidden away and unexplained.