Home Brew Gold Plating
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2015
- I set out to plate the bumper on my truck with gold; It didn't work quite as well as I had hoped.
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Tailgate chemistry. I love it.
+SmarterEveryDay Hey, what are you doing here?
+Michael Baker The Dates You Guys Did XD 123 xD
+SmarterEveryDay OSUP DESTIN
+Michael Baker he's getting smarter everyday.
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Strip off the chrome to bare steel, copper plate the steel, then gold plate the copper!
Standard process for plating gold to steel.
Copper and gold are chemical cousins and have a great affinity for each other.
Copper adheres well to steel, and provides an anodic rust-protection.
Chromium has a hard oxide coating that can prevent the chemical reaction that is metal plating. [OK, huge simplificatopn: Electrons in plating batch get exchanged for metal ions. Metal ions need an oxide-free surface for proper bonding. An immersion batch excludes oxygen, wipers not so much]
Correct
+Greg Gallacci cool, didn't knew it worked that way.
Greg Gallacci
Greg Gallacci o
Might add a layer of nickel between the copper and gold. Gold will adhere to nickel and seal the copper from corrosion.
Gold cyanide? What's that, what rich people drink to commit suicide?
XD
No, the youtuber Cody's Rich Lab drinks in on his videos.
No just to gold plate their insides - not sui - l doubt they would commit sui with all that dosh 🙄
Eh, it's cheaper than drinking liquid gold, but it's also probably a worse way to go.
😆😄😁
Am i the only only one jealous of how smart he is???
Nope
Step 1: get an education in chemistry at a university
Step 2: profit
now you're about as smart as cody!
Just learn chemistry off the internet like I did.
***** he's still pretty reckless though, like in one of his latest video's he bites in a lead bullet(literally) to make a point or something. I know he doesn't get a lot of lead in him that way but even small amounts of lead can have negative effects on the body.
***** still pretty reckless to be putting poisonous metals in your mouth
Cody is fast becoming one of my favourite people to see in my subscription feed. These videos never fail to make my day more interesting.
Agreed
Yuuuuuuuup.
Rob Mckennie agreed
gold plated knife and a clean bumper, not bad outcome.
Plus a youtube video.
ON THE BRIGHT SIDE: you now have a golden butter knife!
a budder butter knife???
+Livin Da Chug Lyfe gee....I'm glad you can spell *slow clap*
+Worst Girl
Golden butter knife: The ultimate weapon.
+Hero✩Lydragius chroma 3 case. cody has a minimal wear one. i don't think it's stattrak though.
+Hawk_ Eye gold gem case hardened.
It wasn't a failure, you learned something as well as taught others something, and now you have a bitchin butter knife ;)
Not sure I'd use a knife made with cyanide?
+Michael Baker he can rub and wash off the cyanide. some if not alot of people back in ancient times did electroplating as well for silverware since you cant really eat with a pure 100% gold knife due to gold being a soft metal so they'd electroplate it.
+Valynaz Valkynaz That may be true, I'm not sure how much of cyanide would come off but you don't have to use cyanide for electroplating gold either so it would be interesting to see how a commercial company does this and whether they use cyanide or not? As for saying it's okay because it was done in "ancient times", well, lead was widely used in ancient times as well thus resulting in mad hatters disease and we only recently stopped using asbestos, etc just to mention only a couple things we have since learned from. Just because something was done in history doesn't mean it's okay today.
Michael Baker wasn't mad hatters disease mostly due to the amount of mercury in lots of hats back then?
I'm going off memory from science back when I was in school and certain that the lead originally used in plumbing was the reason for many becoming very ill and the reason plumbing used now has since been switched to copper, pvc, abs or galvanized. It's also the same reason lead is now not used on children toys or in wall paint however you may be very well correct that it was specifically mercury within the lead? However looking it up online, I do see a different story on mad hatters disease like you mentioned about mercury having been used in the bands of hats back in the day. I'll look into this further just out of curiosity.
Interesting technique to use the cloth for deposition. I had always thought you had to immerse the bumper into the electrolytic bath. You always have lots of practical tips. Thank you!
"It'll make the solution very basic"
Solution: oh my god pumpkin spice products are finally out!
Cody: maybe a little too basic
I have been binge watching these videos. Im learning a ton.
Ive been binge watching too, sadly i haven't been learning anything :(
but you just learned that plating a bumper with gold is very difficult
plated*
I'm pretty sure he meant Plating*
Randy ah ok
Cody, what went wrong with the bumper-plating attempt was the Chrome itself. The Chrome is electroplated in place in nearly the same process you tried. Now, if you had stripped the Chrome off, and gotten to the "base" metal, I believe it would have worked.
+Kevin S kudos !
+Kevin S I had the same thought. Plating over plating doesn't work that well. Lol. Give it something to hold onto though, like a more porous and conductive base metal and it could work.I was thinking of it like paint too. Gotta rough up the base for the paint to adhere properly. Who would want to do that to a perfectly good chrome bumper though? So I don't blame him there. His way was totally reversible and now we know, it doesn't work, thank's to Cody. "I have not failed. I have only found 10,000 ways, not to do something". LMAO!
chrome plating and stainless steel need deactivating before trying electroplating
It isn't plating over plating it is the metal that you are trying to plate that is the issues. Some metals just don't like to be plated with gold, like aluminum you need to basically plate it with zinc, then copper and then you can put gold on top of that... But chrome is one of those metals that can't go straight to gold.
Tell me what did you add to the evaporated salts for the first time? And what was in the bottle, what substance and why it?
I can't be 100% sure as we don't gold plate things at my work (we chrome plate) but leaving the chrome on the bumper and trying to plate over it will likely give you problems. Chrome doesn't like having things plated over it in my experience they tend to peel back off. You could try stripping the chrome off with a caustic solution with a positive charge on the bumper but that would permanently commit you to this. You'd be left with the nickel layer underneath which is where your shine mostly comes from anyway. the chrome is an extremely thin layer to protect the nickel underneath. Maybe test it out with something smaller that's chrome plated? Would need to be steel though as plating processes for steel and aluminum are a bit different. Just buff the part after and it will shine right up.
All that being said I don't work on the steel plating line, I work on the aluminum plating line chroming Harley Davidson parts.
you must feel like a nigerian prince with a gold bumper and stuff lol
No he feels like a scientist
No he feels like a pimp
probably not
Is he? Hmm you learn things everyday
Oh
“What good is gold if you can’t use it”
This man. This man.
my left ear loves this video
and then my right ear
nice anti Illuminati
The audio is fine. Check your wire or your headphone jack. Might have some corroding that blocks one kf the channels
Clearly that your computer have audio problem, because i tested the sound at 2 different computer with different headphone. You can listen again at 1:30
Also, thank you.
Itanimulli Well the rest of thr video has both channels fully used.
Before you posting be more specific
Thanks
or because my ears are too sensitive.
Gold does not stick to chrome very good. Nickel plate the bumper first and it will look great!
is this where nickleback got there name from
seems like you could construct a narrow and shallow tub and actually use a bath for the bumper
Would probably work, but he would most likely need a lot more of the cyanide solution
You learn something from every experiment. Shouldn't call it a failure. Love your channel buddy.
try plating it with copper first then gold
General interest, how do you obtain most chemicals here? Potassium cyanide is not easy to come by, nor is knowledge on how to use it
* so how do you come about all the knowledge and chemicals?
He makes meth ;)
+supermotardmario Kiddie Swimming pool?
Or Dig a trench in the ground and put a tarp down.
"I've never gold plated a bumper, but it's real easy in my head!"
Cody's in college and is quite knowledgeable.
Must say, I'm extremely glad I found your channel. I'm beyond a noob with most of the videos but they're enjoyable to watch and you're easy to understand with terminology + I love science and learning to no end, and also the mine stuff is really exciting.
0:01 just chillin in the plains with my new lamborghini here
Negative result is still a result.
not really negative, just didn't really have enough
I bought a gold plated spoon its 23k it costed me 2dollars will i make any profit?
+Fpagter
It probably has about 10-50mg of gold. so...
+Cody'sLab Haha so... Nothing :) it doesnt matter it is pretty anyway:)
It won't sell for much at all, it's definitely not pure gold if it's worth $2, at least from my knowledge.
he just said its gold plated he already knows its not pure gold
+Cody'sLab at $40 a gram that means 40 cents to 2 dollars worth of gold.
Hey there Cody, I had a question about electroplating. I play the tuba and the mouth piece on the tuba can be made of different things like stainless steel, silver, and gold. Most are brass plated with silver, my mouth piece is such. I was wondering if it would be possible to electroplate gold on to the underlying brass without damaging the silver and brass, it's just an idea but I would like to know just in case I decide to try this
Thanks Cody
you have to plate it in nickel first before the gold, but yes you could do it.
ayyy i play tuba too!
saxophone here
Cody'sLab can I gold plate my iPhone 6
What about the trumpets and trombones?
Thank you ! I’m looking into electroplating for my jewelry business Although this is not the typical video that I have looked for as a tutorial it has helped me understand the process of what’s being done during electroplating so thank you so much
Cody the world needs more people like you. Keep up the good work my friend.
"Today on codyslab we shall be dissolving a body "
Random person: "I'm bored, what can I do? Let's watch a movie."
Cody: "Let's plate my car's bumper in gold with a sock."
Wow Cody that was an awesome concept to attempt! Electroplating with a hot glove method! Man what creativity!
What if you stuck your finger into the solution with the current in it?
+Kerman Guy
you would get your finger wet
+Cody'sLab this is the funniest thing i've ever seen lol
+Cody'sLab this is the funniest thing i've ever seen lol
+Cody'sLab Heheheheheh!
+Cody'sLab haha
Well... Atleast your bumper is clean
Fine! You win. I subscribed.
Damn you and your fascinating videos
I don't get it. Why bother with dissolving the gold in aqua regia and recovering it if the solution used for plating is a cyanide one instead?
maybe he wanted the reaction to happen quickly so his goal with the aqua regia was to make the gold into extremely fine powder increasing the surface area in the process
Tell me please, what did he add to the evaporated salts of gold? And what kind of substance is in the bottle? What is its meaning?
Videos like this are awesome. It's amazing how much you know about chemistry.
this is like a cooking show! But for chemists.
GLOVES!!! There should be gloves on hands in this video... GAH!
There is gloves in the thumbnail...
Cody'sLab yah, I made this comment while watching bare hands and hydrochloric acid... I saw gloves later on, but the safety police in me wanted more!
Cody'sLab apart from that I really really liked this video! too bad the plating didn't work on the truck, but such a neat experiment either way!!
The Scope of Science noone uses gloves while handling HCl in the lab
Rick off nigga
I love the concept!!! Great idea, and work. Thanks for the video
Found this fascinating. Thanks so much for making this, despite that it did't work the chemistry was very interesting.
Did it not stick because they already electroplated it with chrome?
Duh!
if it's so "duh" then why even try in the first place?
thats 219 dollars worth of gold
Now it's about 250
I was thinking about the same thing, but you have to realize he was scheduled for McCormick in Chicago next week...
300
this is the third time I've seen this and I enjoyed the heck out of it. :-)
The people that disliked this really don't get this channel.
Please show how to extract Mercury from tuna next.
DIY stuff It would be cheaper to buy mercury if you wanted to use tuna as a resorce for mercury. However, it would be fun to detect mercury in tuna with a chemical indicator.
+Sirus the reason why he would want to extract the mercury from tuna is because eating too much fish can kill because of the presence of mercury. he doesn't want mercury, he wants it removed from the fish.
idk if anyones said this but is there a reason he didnt blurr his license plate????!!!?!?!?
Wasn't famous enough to worry about it yet.
Cody'sLab cool shit brah
Cody, i feel youtubers should feel like their subscribers should respect them enough not to come to there house / stalk them but of course everyone wants to meet their Favorite youtubers, and i wish i could meet you
wtf?
Living in the middle of nowhere probably the reason. =)
seeing that bottle with the hoses in it brings back old memories.
wow just discovered your channel and ur just the way i wanna be when im a little older. ur the man!
dang, that sucks that was a ton of work too..
very inefficient way to clean your bumper
Can I do this to my csgo knife?
+LooL if its a replica
Always awesome videos! Very enjoyable and informative and I've learnt a lot about chemistry right here. Cody,, it be cool if you did a copper plating video.
Technically it wasn't a failure, because you learned something new. therefore I declare this a victory
Cody are you self taught.....or did you go to college for Chemistry?....
im guessing this guy is friend with walter white,there is definitely some chemistry between them
Dude you are really cool! What a blessed mind you have my brother. Always give thanks for that.
I enjoy your videos, looks like a beautiful piece of land.
Just dissolving $270 worth of gold
Need to check gold prices it's only about $50 worth
x 6.2?
at this very moment the price is ~234€ or ~261$. So... Damn Stupid
Edit: this is for the 6,2g coin
I think its 22carat so more like 220 $
Guess how much money he makes from his videos having millions of views.
damn, i wish i took chemisty instead of biology now
I took Biology and Chemistry, I fucking hate Biology now.
You are such an awesome guy Cody! I love your channel!
that's the beauty of science, whether your hypothesis is a success or failure you learn something :D
When I started watching, the first thing that popped into my head was "Here in my garage..."
Here in my garage, just bought this new '87 Ford Ranger here. It’s fun to drive up here in the Utah hills. But you know what I like more than chrome? Gold. In fact, I’m a lot more proud of this new gold-plated butter knife that I had to get installed to spread two thousand new tubs of butter that I bought. It’s like the billionaire Warren Buffett says, “the more you spread, the better your bread.”
+David Abraham XD
+David Abraham That was the most epic thing I've heard in a long time. loo
Your facial hair looks like mine. My compliments!
Very good your work. Congratulations and thank you !!
This was amazing, thank you for teaching me so much!
I have been watchign quite a few of your videos. I really love your "LETS FUCKING DO THIS!" approach to most things. Yeah most fail, but you do them anyway and follow the basic science (and explain it too). No matter that for many things ppl often need years and decades of experience to get it right. But hey in a post apocalypic enviroment you would do splendid with your various skills.
0:00 Here in my garage...
+Holden Kenne hahahahahahaahhaha so mean
+Volronalex how is it mean?
he doesn't have one right?
I believe it was a reference to Tai Lopez's ads. I got the same vibe when I started the video too, lol
KNAWLEDGE
You have a clean bumper and new knowledge of what works and what doesn't. If that's not a win I don't know what is. :)
Man those older rangers are rare, your lucky to have such a nice example.
What profession would this be
He's a geologist, but his chemistry is impressive idk if geology covers all this it must do
Thanks
did anyone else here the rooster in the background?? XD
When
I did
Ive never ever watched one of your videos and was bored. Never stop making videos
I really really like your videos. Can't wait to try some of this. Safety of course
i want a gold butter knife for csgo pls
get a gold youtube play button and melt it and gold plate something
Gold CZcams play button is only gold plated
+VannosGamíng true man lmao
I'm glad you uploaded this even though it didn't work out.
This is what CZcams should be about. Good videos with educational purposes and even if you didn't succeed, you taught us a good lesson :D
"im just gonna add some lie"
lye*
Glad to see irrelevant brony hate comments are still in fashion 5 years later
im wondering if theres a way to recover gold from ewaste using electro plating so dont have to use chemicals just electricity
You’re an amazing chemist. Full of surprises
One thing they do when electroplating is this: Metal builds up at the point of the highest potential. And it actually causes positive feedback because now it is raised, like more pointy, so the potential is higher. So there will actually end up being needles deposited on the item to be plated! Which is no good, obviously.
So they put extra cations in there to compete with the metal ones, so they actually stick to the higher points and stop the metal from being deposited there somewhat, evening out the plate.
I don't know, but I'm guessing they use something like a quantary ammonium salt. Readily available, not toxic and probably provides a large steric hinderance to other cations. Also if it is reduced, so what, it turns into the free base, which is just an oil usually. Which would likely be with a bit of agitation dissolved by it's unreduced mates, which are basically detergents. Lots of household disinfectants use these quantary ammonium salts!
Also I know that temperature, agitation, etc, can be key.
I love your videos! some of the best content on youtube.
I would give anything to come hang out with you at your farm! You seem like an awesome guy.
I've learned so much from u my friend u are a man that I need to take out for a beer
Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained!!!
Thanks for the Video, Cody!
Any ideas on extraction of microscopic gold from black sand concentrate? besides smelting.
Said black sand Is magnatite with metals of the "PMG" group.... so ore concentrate is not pure.
CODY! It's been over 5 years. Let's give it another go with the methods listed below involving coating with nickel/copper prior to the gold.
You're a treasure, Cody. Your car should be in the same class as the driver.
I really enjoy your videos! Keep up the good work!
PS.I loved science since first grade and still love science
I love your smile, and Even tho you failed here your still happy, I absolutely love your optimism and you just earned a subscribe a like and a fan! Stay happy brother I hope to see more videos and yea
and now you have a very clean bumper.
though it was a failure i loved the video n i have no idea what you are talking about must of the time with all those chemicals its something pretty interesting and cool to watch. keep the hard work. thumbs up!!!!
what if you put yourr bumper into a plastic sleeve that could become a vacuum sealed bath to soak in while reducing volume in bag
Probably already sorted out but make a plaster cast of the bumper, sand the inside of the cast so it leaves some space, then use emersion plating (the cast is to minimize fluid required) that's how i plate larger objects
nice video thanks you did get a clean bumper out of it.
Truly excellent content dude!
I would love to see you try this again with more knowledge under your belt. The reason the knife worked so well is more because it is a better conductor than chrome. Electroplating is one of the 'dark arts' that can't be properly learned through books. As an X metal finisher there were two things I could suggest that would make the difference.
1. You don't need to use gold as your anode. We used stainless steal. You'll be able to make an anode with more surface area, which is key, if you use stainless.
2. The resistance of chrome was also defeating you. We needed tens of thousands of amps to throw it on that bumper in the first place due to it's high resistance. Strip the chrome off and buff the nickle under it to activate it and remove oxide then try again.
You can strip off the chrome by reversing the polarity and using a strong caustic solution. (once again, with a stainless electrode)
Realize that anything that can oxidize IS oxidizing when exposed to air. Surface oxides prevent the plate from permabonding to the surface. So prep/buff a small area then immediately plate it. Then prep/buff another small area and plate it to minimize surface oxide.
Gold is such a good conductor that high voltages and currents are not needed to make it work. Pretty sure we used a 12 volt rectifier and not more than a few amps. Proper preparation of the surface is more important.
Good luck dude!
Can't wait to see a part 2 on this one. (waiting with baited breath)
thats is amazing and gold leaving would look really nice
Brilliant! This was very informative. I am thinking of gold plating my phone.
On the bright side, your bumper is nice and clean!
Liked your video, even the step by steps,...failure included. Looking forward to you next one
Is aqua regia the same thing that they use to stain curly maple on muzzleloader stocks?
Did you not work out the area your plating? You need a heap more gold than u used