And if legends/myths are to be believed sail across the sea, land in a little place called Italy and be the origin story for the greatest classical empire the world would ever know.
For those who do not know in the story of Troy, the boy carrying his elderly father is Aeneas, the man destined to one day find the place that will become Rome, that's why Paris gave him the sword of Troy.
Yes it's one of three movies that he does not die in. The only known three. Troy National Treasure Percy Jackson and the Olympians: the lightning thief.
+audiocow And if Hollywood plays its cards right, he'll play Odysseus as an old man and *live* gloriously -- Sean Bean's magnum opus. Though naturally The Odyssey wouldn't work well in the same realistic style as this movie.... but a man can dream.
@@Bucci86Marco Sorry but the Romans were nothing compared to the Greeks. Greeks are the entire basis of Western Civilization. Romans are mere footnotes to their works.
Joe W i thought it was only me! Man, its 2018 & i'm still waiting on that movie with Sean Bean. Maybe they didn't push Oddysey cuz its more steeped in Greek mythology and they wanted Troy as real as possible. Who knows? We'll NEVER know!
Ten years after this, Odysseus returns home, to his palace on Itaca. Agamemnon (who actually survived): "Hey, men where are you been? Do you know that Trojan refugees re-populated the Troy? We are going to fight another war with them! Are you with us?!" Odysseus: *KICKS HIM OUTTA HIS PALACE* P.S. Actually this is half-imaginary, because there were (probably) 2 invasions on Troy during 13 century, possibly by the same Greeks!
"Do you know the story of Achilles?" "No." "He was a great warrior who lived thousands of years ago and was believed to be invincible. Before a great war began, an oracle told him he had a choice in his destiny. 'If you stay home, you will meet a wife, raise a family and you will die of old age but eventually you will be forgotten. If you go to war you will die but your name will be remembered for all time.' This was his choice." "What did he choose?" "Do you know the story of Achilles?"
@@rubenpartono i think he wants to say that we would not no the story of Achilles if he didn't choose to go to troy. So if we talk about Achilles, we know what he did choose.
It amazes me that Odysseus gives this silent eulogy with starting the words: if they ever say my story. His story is probably one of the most known and retold ones in Western history. He continues calling Hector the tamer of horses. The thing he loved to do best in life. Not warfare, but being a horseman. And Achilles... Achilles does not need epithet, because who could not be familiar with him?
what made this movie great was that sean bean was the only survivor among all these spectacular characters. if sean bean is the only survivor in your team then that means some serious shit went down.
you could argue that he got worse than death.... i mean it took him years and years to get back to his wife and on his journey he mit cyclops and went to hades
@@agenttheater5 You're kidding right? If I slap you will it be your choice to respond? No, it is an obligation. It's about honor for Menelaus at least. It doesn't mean much these days for guys, but it was everything back in the day when men were... You know.. MEN.
True enough, that's what I like about this movie, it compares the thoughts on honor in those days and in these days and questions whether or not that actually makes a man a man - also if that makes a man a good man. @@ventsislavstefanov9590
Still, even though the oath of the quartered horse Helens suitors took before she was given to Menelaus was that they would come to the aid of her chosen husband if his honour was threatened, no matter who was chosen, Menelaus could've decided not to summon them, not to go to his brother for an army. Helen made her choice to go and she could've easily chosen not to go. Menelaus made his choice to go to war and he could just as easily have chosen to let her stay there and rebuild his pride on his own. Honour or not honour, he choose to declare war. @@ventsislavstefanov9590
Well, if you read Helias you will learn that Achilles and Briessis weren't a couple. Also, Achilles died before the catastrophe of Troy. Briessis wasn't relatives with Paris, Hector or Priam, she was just a poor girl from a village of Troy that was stolen by Achilles to be his servant. And they aren't only those well the movie is in general inaccurate 😂
I love the way the Iliad goes. Every character ends up getting what they deserve, nothing less and nothing more. Achilles- Wanted his name remembered, and ran behind fame. He got fame, but not without the price that came with it. His own arrogance and vengeful behavior led to his demise at the hands of a much inferior combatant Paris. He lived by the sword and died by the sword (well, technically arrow). Paris- Gave in to lust and desired a romantic escapade with Helen. He got what he asked for and the downsides that came with it, namely the WHOLE GODDAMN WAR!! Combined with that Troy will always remember him as the weaker out of the two brothers. He was scorned by the city and looked down upon by his own father. Hector- Perhaps one of the most redeemable people in the story, but still not without his flaws. He still inadvertently contributed to the war coming to Troy. If he had done his duty, sailed back and returned Helen to Menelaus, then the war would not have happened. He killed Patroclus, though by accident, and thus faced retribution at the hands of Achilles. Nonetheless, he is an honorable warrior and was respected by his father and the city and even some on the other side, like Achilles later on. He too lived by the sword and died by the sword. Agamenmon- Yes he led the victorious side, burned the city. But upon returning home he was murdered by his wife's lover, and his legacy fell apart...burned much like Troy. Odysseus- Designed a treacherous move against the Trojans, and paid for it for the next 20 years, away from home, running from monsters.
You forgot Menelaus. He got his wife back, Helen. She returned with him to Sparta, and she later realized how she was a stupid "whore" in her own words, and was grateful and humble to her more-than-generous husband Menelaus. She also held Paris in contempt, realizing he was a weakling who, despite being able to woo her due to his good looks and charm, was ultimately a pitiful fool. For Menelaus and Helen, they returned to Sparta after the war, and lived in peace, their marriage restored and Menelaus had a long and full reign, with Helen by his side. Meanwhile, Paris died and Troy lay in ruins.
Cassandra- was right the whole time, but considered a madwoman due to her not holding up a bargain with Apollo. Also, just because she was second most beautiful after Helen, got picked by that jerk Agamemnon to be his latest slave mistress. Accurately foresees her own death, at the hands of Agamemnon's vengeful wife and wife's boy toy, who are only planning the slaughter bc Agamemnon killed his own daughter. Not believed. walks to own death.
Indeed, Rome however, also fell, being taken by the visi-goths, who essentially gave them a Trojan horse(300 of the Germans best warriors as slaves for rome
Rome never well. the Roman Empire was fell, yes, because as the line says "when Romans stop being Romans". Yes, barbarians sacked Rome once, but there was a little line "Vae Victis" and a roman general, who drawed his sword, and stabbed the barbarian leader, and Said "We defend our homeland not with gold, but the steel of sword" After this for 700 years no foreign army stepped on the land of Rome.
Manuele Mazzoni wrong. You can not integrate, assimilate or even expect Europe to take in millions of migrants every year. The operative word is migrant. There are rules for migration. If you aren't a migrant following correct procedure you are breaking the law. I can see the by Eastern Europe won't accept them, they aren't bringing anything of value except more benefit payouts. Germany has had 850k migrants/refugees in 2 yrs. only 28k are working. Great idea.. When Italy can't afford it, nor Europe, turn the boats back and use foreign aid. Stem the ride or watch Italy get washed away.
According to the Illiad and the Odyssey, Paris wasn't supposed to survive, another Trojan was supposed to save the people of Troy. The guy who saved the Trojans was Aeneas, a Trojan officer who managed to save hundreds of people from the Greeks, and soon they would become the Romans.
@@bigzy8183 Aeneas had an incredibly minor role in the Illiad, appearing only when his mom Aphrodite has to rescue him from the fighting and later in the escape. This movie had zero divine involvement so that bit had to be cut and all we got to see of him was the escape. It wasn't until the Aeneid that his role was expanded by Virgil. About 300 years after the original was written.
If Hector had turned his ship around and returned the stolen Queen he would still have a home and a life, so he wasn't that great. His entire civilisation ended because he failed at his duty as a leader.
Hector should have handed Helen over and killed Paris. He ended up costing the doom of troy. In legends, his wife became a slave to the Greeks and his son died. He made the wrong choices.
Herodotus argued in his Histories that Helen had never in fact arrived at Troy, but was in Egypt during the entire Trojan War. I imagine the Trojans' anger at a war when Helen wasn't even there.
The final picture is absolutely amazing. Seeing Achilles's body being consumed by the flames, and the ashy coloumns and the smoke rising slowly along with Sean Bean's eery voice gives me goosebumps. I'm thinking of the previous scenes with Troy flourishing, people cheering, and of Achilles in his prime, moving like a thunder, killing countless men, defying the gods themselves... but at the same time knowing full well that it will eventually come at a price and goes on anyway. And now, here's the final scene and you see, that the price is paid. Troy is nothing but ashes, the whole city turned silent and the sun sets on Achilles's burning stake. He doesn't speak anymore, he doesn't move anymore, his words have come true and all that's left is his name. The god of death is ready to take over and he will be faced with all he has killed in the underworld. And in the upper world nothing remains of the people and glory of Troy, just a few stranded survivors and the city ruins have become silent and the forces of nature have taken over. This is more devastating than any other picture. No foreign rule, be it Greeks or Hettites or anyone else is as intimidating as nature itself in its indifferent cruelty with only the sun the wind and the plants making a change. This is also the reason why the movie Gravity is so moving to me. No wonder what terror is inflicted by humans on each other on Earth, nothing compares to being thrown into sheer nothingness where noone hears you and noone sees you and noone remembers you.
Such a sad and beautiful ending the way she looks back at the Greeks mourning and burning his body, she loved Achilles and he loved her back she was the only one besides maybe his mother who could give him peace and break through the killing monster that he was.
Briseis was raped by the man who butchered her loved ones and forced to marry him to avoid becoming a slave for the soldiers. Not really what you can call love, but once again americans love distorting other peoples myths and histories to make movies oversimplified and best suited to the (lack of) taste of their public...
This movie revealed theories and mentalities behind wars which later result in tregadies. Hector was definitely a wise a brave man but became victim of stupid kings.
+Abdul Hameed i've watched this movie a few times and every time i do i feel a lil bit sadder for hector, he was the only one making sense the entire time
@@drichreq3748 Yes, Hector was a man of honor and the best man in this story, but he should have punched Paris in the face and turned the ship back to Sparta the moment he realized he'd brought Helen aboard. Lashed him in front of Menelaus till blood dripped down his back to end the hostilities before they started.
Achilles has a heartbreaking caracther arc. At first we are presented by a man driven by the desire to gain fame,not caring that the king he served under was a greedy rat,not carying that his glory walked hand in hand with his doom,not carying that he’ll probably never have a family. In the end,he had his name carved in stone,it’s nearly been 4000 years and we are still speaking his name,but in his final moments,he just wished he would have had a man to call “my king” and a woman to call “my wife”.
I like love the funeral pyre scenes in this movie / the fact that they didn’t explicitly show the gods, but implied their influence in small parts throughout the movie.
"Let them say , I lived in the time of Jesus Christ." That would be the GREATEST HONOR, above all. Truly , I say to you . He's the only one whom name never died.
Jesus Christ was a pussy who fucked up the world long after he was gone due to his manipulation of the masses for his own desire for power. "Religion is the opium of the masses." How many fucking wars have happened in the name of Christianity? How many people have suffered gruesome fates because of this motherfucker's desire to have a name for himself and to have power in his lifetime?
Is anyone else surprised Sean Bean lived?! He dies in everything else so I figured they kill off his character in this too. Even if he is indeed the narrator.
Actually Paris was killed by a soldier who had met Hercules and he was given his poisonous arrows. Hector’s son was thrown from the walls (yes while he was a baby) and his wife was taken as a slave . Priam and the rest were killed .
Another viewpoint: 1. Helen had a weakness for Paris whenever he displayed his affections towards her. As long as he continued that, as demonstrated in his tender embrace of her resulting in her submissive response at 0:55 - 1:02, he didn't need to fear the rebuke of her tongue. 2. Crown Princess Andromache (Hector's wife) might have been a different matter but if she was as noble as her husband, then out of respect for his memory, she would refrain from criticizing Paris. 3. As Achilles' concubine, Princess Briseis had no standing in the community of survivors to criticize anyone since she had consorted with Troy's enemies, even if that had not been her original intention when she approached the Greeks' camp.
It took almost than 3000 years and a movie that does not follow the original story whatsoever, but this is the (half) happy ending everyone had been wishing for since Homer himself was singing the Iliad😱😱
I know the love story centered around Helen but I liked Briseis & Achilles romance more. Plus Briseis was a bit more of a badass Helen was weak. I like her name to Briseis it is a unique name.
Yeah true, Menelaus was actually a pretty good guy and husband to Helen, i just cant get over the fact that in this movie he is portrayed as a cruel cheating pig and that they make the helen abduction look more like a rescue mission
- Start a war - Run away to your brother when you're about to loose a duel - Watch everyone die - Kill a legend - Run away - Refuses to elaborate further París: Cowardllionaire grindset
Its from the directors cut actually and I guess the blue ray version as well. Some of the music is slightly different in places as well because of added scenes.
Does anyone else want to see a movie called Odyssey starring Sean Bean? There is one from 199something with Armand Assante, but I think it can be done better.
paradoxinhumanshape i know that movie and it was well done; But with better effects of today, yes it can be. But it needs the greatest director! I'm looking @ you Christopher Nolan.
Υπέροχη ταινία και ότι πιο κοντινό στην ελληνική μας απόδοση...! Ωστόσο με κάποιες αστοχίες... Ο Αχιλλέας πέθανε πριν μπουν οι Αχαιοί στην Τροία, ο Μενέλαος δεν πέθανε στον πόλεμο, από την Τροία δεν σώθηκε κανείς, ο Μενέλαος δεν ήταν τόσο φανατικός, τη Χρυσηίδα δεν την έδειξαν καθόλου, η παρέμβαση από τους Θεούς δεν υπήρχε στην ταινία κι έλειπαν κι άλλα πρόσωπα... Παρόλο αυτά η ταινία είναι πολύ καλή!!!
Και αυτό που με ενόχλησε περισσότερο. Ο Μενέλαος δεν έχει καμία σχέση με αυτόν στην ταινία και ο Πάρης πέθανε από δηλητηριασμένο βέλος. Από την Τροία πάντως σώθηκαν κάποιοι. Ο Αινίας με τον πατέρα του και τον γιό του και ο Αντήνορας με τους γιους του.
Πάλι καλά δηλαδή πού κρατήσανε το ποιός εφεύρε τον Δούρειο ίππο και την Αλαζονεία του Αγαμέμνονα. Μεγάλο λάθος κατά τη γνώμη μου να σκοτώσουν τον Μενέλαο, αγαπάμε Brendan Gleeson, και θεωρώ ότι καλά έκαναν και έκοψαν τελείως τη θεϊκή παρέμβαση γιατί θα φαινόταν γέλιο να σωθεί ο Πάρης από την Αφροδίτη εκεί που πάει να τον φάει ο Μενέλαος.
"Let them say, I lived in the one time Sean Bean's character lived."
hahahaha
LOL, have you watch Silent hill ? sean bean did not die on that movie too
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Eric H. As soon as I saw ending...and then Sean Bean's face within the first shot..I just had to scroll down as I knew...I just knew!
Take the girl, start the war, let everyone die, kill a legend. As a final, run away from city.
*Planning 100*
But he get a girl haha
I Dont like Hector's smaller brother
pathetic life.
And if legends/myths are to be believed sail across the sea, land in a little place called Italy and be the origin story for the greatest classical empire the world would ever know.
For those who do not know in the story of Troy, the boy carrying his elderly father is Aeneas, the man destined to one day find the place that will become Rome, that's why Paris gave him the sword of Troy.
movieexpert18 He came and lived at a place where the founders of Rome were born, he didn't find Rome.
His descendants did. (According to legend.)
Aeneas was hector's cousin brother ....he's not just a random guy
@@markarmage3776 The founders of Rome were said to be his descendants.
Also, on a plus side, Hector's son Astynax is held in legend to be the direct ancestor of Charlemagne.
So wait Sean Bean actually survives this movie?
Yes it's one of three movies that he does not die in. The only known three.
Troy
National Treasure
Percy Jackson and the Olympians: the lightning thief.
+audiocow And if Hollywood plays its cards right, he'll play Odysseus as an old man and *live* gloriously -- Sean Bean's magnum opus.
Though naturally The Odyssey wouldn't work well in the same realistic style as this movie.... but a man can dream.
He should have done a odyssey movie because ge would have been the only survivor.
+Dalton Teso He survives Flightplan, The Martian, Silent Hill...
naw he dies of aids 10 mins after
The way Briseis looked back to see them burning Achilles body 😭
I never picked up on this little detail, I thought it's the city she was mourning but it's so obviously her soulmate, thanks for pointing it out.
That moment cracked me. She truly loved Achilles.
@@SomethingNowhereMan same she’s the only one besides his mother who could break through to him
Doubt she can see that from that distance. I interpreted it as her looking back because she had to leave her home city behind as a burning ruin.
@@thomasvleminckx bro if we can see it then obviously she can too LMAO
‘’Let them say I lived in the time of Hector tamer of horses. Let them say, I lived in the time of Achilles." Gives me chills every time i hear it !
Let them say they lived in the time of Aeneas the ancestor of Romulus.
VRBS AETERNA, CAPVT MVNDI.
ROMA, 753 b.C.
breaker of horses*
I like how Odysseus also acknowledges Hector
My favorite closing line of any movie💯
@@Bucci86Marco Sorry but the Romans were nothing compared to the Greeks. Greeks are the entire basis of Western Civilization. Romans are mere footnotes to their works.
Odysseus later learns to his chagrin that "One does not simply walk to Ithaca!"
Indeed. It is folly.
Hahahahah that's good!!!
Great waste of potential after Troy i was waiting for Odysey with Sean Bean as a Ullises as main character ....:/
Joe W i thought it was only me! Man, its 2018 & i'm still waiting on that movie with Sean Bean. Maybe they didn't push Oddysey cuz its more steeped in Greek mythology and they wanted Troy as real as possible. Who knows? We'll NEVER know!
Ten years after this, Odysseus returns home, to his palace on Itaca.
Agamemnon (who actually survived): "Hey, men where are you been? Do you know that Trojan refugees re-populated the Troy? We are going to fight another war with them! Are you with us?!"
Odysseus: *KICKS HIM OUTTA HIS PALACE*
P.S. Actually this is half-imaginary, because there were (probably) 2 invasions on Troy during 13 century, possibly by the same Greeks!
"Do you know the story of Achilles?"
"No."
"He was a great warrior who lived thousands of years ago and was believed to be invincible. Before a great war began, an oracle told him he had a choice in his destiny. 'If you stay home, you will meet a wife, raise a family and you will die of old age but eventually you will be forgotten. If you go to war you will die but your name will be remembered for all time.' This was his choice."
"What did he choose?"
"Do you know the story of Achilles?"
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I hate how underrated this comment is . Like , it's some serious witty shit . Took me 3 secs to get it ...wish I could like it many more times. 👀
@@aasthabiswas2014 lol could you explain it for us folks in the back please?
@@rubenpartono i think he wants to say that we would not no the story of Achilles if he didn't choose to go to troy. So if we talk about Achilles, we know what he did choose.
@@rubenpartono was this supposed to be a satire? I'm genuinely curious.
Odysseus "Now it's off to Westeros for me!"
Krisb BeatS via Gondor to see the family first.
+Invinciblez18 HAHA!!
***** You hate me cuz you ain't me
The Greeks are coming!....or something like that
ThomasNigelHawkins no winter is coming or is it gondor
It amazes me that Odysseus gives this silent eulogy with starting the words: if they ever say my story. His story is probably one of the most known and retold ones in Western history. He continues calling Hector the tamer of horses. The thing he loved to do best in life. Not warfare, but being a horseman. And Achilles... Achilles does not need epithet, because who could not be familiar with him?
in the extended version, sean bean falls of the stairs and dies!
Amar Madhar hahaha wtf
Amar Madhar 😂😂😂 best comment so far...
Amar Madhar lmao
Amar Madhar I thought he got shot three times by a ogre looking thing?
Or beheaded?! Haha
what made this movie great was that sean bean was the only survivor among all these spectacular characters. if sean bean is the only survivor in your team then that means some serious shit went down.
You never watched Anna Karenina (1997). He played Vronsky
you could argue that he got worse than death.... i mean it took him years and years to get back to his wife and on his journey he mit cyclops and went to hades
Finally a movie in which Sean Been doesn't die.
+Jonatan Carmi They had to kill the other actors to make it equal !!!
He didn't die in Ronin (although he wasnt in it to the end) or Bravo Two Zero.
He didn't die also in national treasure
The Sharpe episodes were long enough to be movies. He survives those...
Jonatan Carmi man if you know the story of the Odyssey he got one fucked up journey back home lol
"let them say, i lived in the time of achilles"
Let them say I lived in times of Hector, tamer of horses.
@Peter D I lived in the time Paris who is a whore* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Hector is a better person
Achiles was killed by a coward, such a sad ending.
nah Paris was just using his head
@@warrenyang7673 Paris is trash
In fact Achiles died by Paris outside of Troy. He never entered that city. His son did that was called Neoptolemos.
Warren Yang coward
Or avenging his brother's death maybe..
No matter which side won, Paris and Helen will always be responsible for the outcome
They didn't make Menalaus and Agamemnon sail to Troy. That was their choice and their choice alone.
@@agenttheater5 You're kidding right? If I slap you will it be your choice to respond? No, it is an obligation. It's about honor for Menelaus at least. It doesn't mean much these days for guys, but it was everything back in the day when men were... You know.. MEN.
True enough, that's what I like about this movie, it compares the thoughts on honor in those days and in these days and questions whether or not that actually makes a man a man - also if that makes a man a good man. @@ventsislavstefanov9590
I started hating Legolas after this movie.
Still, even though the oath of the quartered horse Helens suitors took before she was given to Menelaus was that they would come to the aid of her chosen husband if his honour was threatened, no matter who was chosen, Menelaus could've decided not to summon them, not to go to his brother for an army. Helen made her choice to go and she could've easily chosen not to go. Menelaus made his choice to go to war and he could just as easily have chosen to let her stay there and rebuild his pride on his own. Honour or not honour, he choose to declare war. @@ventsislavstefanov9590
She LOVED Achilles so much. And he loved her. The most beautiful and heartbreaking romance. I love Briesi (Rose Byrne) to my soul
lol this is just the movie. you should read the actual Illiad, achilles and briseis's relationship was MUCH more different
Well, if you read Helias you will learn that Achilles and Briessis weren't a couple. Also, Achilles died before the catastrophe of Troy. Briessis wasn't relatives with Paris, Hector or Priam, she was just a poor girl from a village of Troy that was stolen by Achilles to be his servant. And they aren't only those well the movie is in general inaccurate 😂
She was young and delusional so he raped and strangled her and made her think it was love. Oh, and he murdered her cousin.
From Briesi in Troy to Moira McTaggert in X-Men First Class. So, yeah, who wouldn't love Rose Byrne??
Briseis is very beautiful in this image. Rose Byrne played it perfectly.
Now back to the ships and make for Ithaca! What could possibly go wrong?
richtea 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Makes you think if he rented the ship, that would be quiet the repayments he would owe after 20 years....
Poseidon: *Evil laughter*
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Everything it could did go wrong
Hector, Achilles and Odysseus are the best characters in the movie
And Eudorus!
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@@krashd And King Priam.
And paris 😁
Ulysses
The real tragedy is Helen can't cook, and they divorced 2 years later.
Yeah but Helen can't get alimony and half property cause all their property got burn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Paris lucked out. He's the only eligible male left with all those single ladies. He's going to be busy populating Troy 2 wherever they wind up.
@@gurujr Troy 2.0
@@gurujr Troy 2.0 was Rome.
Lol
And Briseis actually fell in love with Achilles. They make a better couple than Paris and Helen
I totally agree with you ❤️
That was a Hollywood movie, dude.
They're cute and all, but I will always ship Patrochilles
If I were her I would avenge his death. Maybe act sexually interested in an orgy with he and Helen then kill him.
@@sameerthakur720 Ikd. bout that this was a German movie, to begin with, only in "post" was it cleaned up for Hollowood audiences.
I love the way the Iliad goes. Every character ends up getting what they deserve, nothing less and nothing more.
Achilles- Wanted his name remembered, and ran behind fame. He got fame, but not without the price that came with it. His own arrogance and vengeful behavior led to his demise at the hands of a much inferior combatant Paris. He lived by the sword and died by the sword (well, technically arrow).
Paris- Gave in to lust and desired a romantic escapade with Helen. He got what he asked for and the downsides that came with it, namely the WHOLE GODDAMN WAR!! Combined with that Troy will always remember him as the weaker out of the two brothers. He was scorned by the city and looked down upon by his own father.
Hector- Perhaps one of the most redeemable people in the story, but still not without his flaws. He still inadvertently contributed to the war coming to Troy. If he had done his duty, sailed back and returned Helen to Menelaus, then the war would not have happened. He killed Patroclus, though by accident, and thus faced retribution at the hands of Achilles. Nonetheless, he is an honorable warrior and was respected by his father and the city and even some on the other side, like Achilles later on. He too lived by the sword and died by the sword.
Agamenmon- Yes he led the victorious side, burned the city. But upon returning home he was murdered by his wife's lover, and his legacy fell apart...burned much like Troy.
Odysseus- Designed a treacherous move against the Trojans, and paid for it for the next 20 years, away from home, running from monsters.
You forgot Menelaus. He got his wife back, Helen. She returned with him to Sparta, and she later realized how she was a stupid "whore" in her own words, and was grateful and humble to her more-than-generous husband Menelaus. She also held Paris in contempt, realizing he was a weakling who, despite being able to woo her due to his good looks and charm, was ultimately a pitiful fool.
For Menelaus and Helen, they returned to Sparta after the war, and lived in peace, their marriage restored and Menelaus had a long and full reign, with Helen by his side. Meanwhile, Paris died and Troy lay in ruins.
Paris also dies a horrible death, being poisoned by the arrows of Herakles, and throws himself upon a funeral pyre to end the terrible pain.
Yuilen in the story the Greeks really weren't the villains
bhoumik4 Ten years to get home, not twenty.
Cassandra- was right the whole time, but considered a madwoman due to her not holding up a bargain with Apollo. Also, just because she was second most beautiful after Helen, got picked by that jerk Agamemnon to be his latest slave mistress. Accurately foresees her own death, at the hands of Agamemnon's vengeful wife and wife's boy toy, who are only planning the slaughter bc Agamemnon killed his own daughter. Not believed. walks to own death.
If the legends are true, the defeated Trojans went to the Italian peninsula and eventually founded the great city of Rome...
Indeed, Rome however, also fell, being taken by the visi-goths, who essentially gave them a Trojan horse(300 of the Germans best warriors as slaves for rome
Rome never well. the Roman Empire was fell, yes, because as the line says "when Romans stop being Romans". Yes, barbarians sacked Rome once, but there was a little line "Vae Victis" and a roman general, who drawed his sword, and stabbed the barbarian leader, and Said "We defend our homeland not with gold, but the steel of sword"
After this for 700 years no foreign army stepped on the land of Rome.
Manuele Mazzoni wrong. You can not integrate, assimilate or even expect Europe to take in millions of migrants every year. The operative word is migrant. There are rules for migration. If you aren't a migrant following correct procedure you are breaking the law.
I can see the by Eastern Europe won't accept them, they aren't bringing anything of value except more benefit payouts.
Germany has had 850k migrants/refugees in 2 yrs. only 28k are working.
Great idea..
When Italy can't afford it, nor Europe, turn the boats back and use foreign aid. Stem the ride or watch Italy get washed away.
Toza Well said and correct. Political correctness blinds a lot of people.
when that happened what i wrote, christianity was not even a wild idea.
According to the Illiad and the Odyssey, Paris wasn't supposed to survive, another Trojan was supposed to save the people of Troy. The guy who saved the Trojans was Aeneas, a Trojan officer who managed to save hundreds of people from the Greeks, and soon they would become the Romans.
Would that be the guy Paris gave the sword to in the movie? The young guy helping his father escape.
Bigzy it was
D2attemp that’s crazy.. thought he had a role in something.
Killed by Philoctetes a distant relative of Heracles
@@bigzy8183 Aeneas had an incredibly minor role in the Illiad, appearing only when his mom Aphrodite has to rescue him from the fighting and later in the escape. This movie had zero divine involvement so that bit had to be cut and all we got to see of him was the escape.
It wasn't until the Aeneid that his role was expanded by Virgil. About 300 years after the original was written.
I wish they would have made an Odyssey movie with Sean Bean
Perfect opportunity for a sequel after this, but Bean's too old for the role now :(
Thing is it wouldnt work well. Troy was made realistically, how the war would happened, but during Odyssey, Odysseus fought monsters and stuff
I agree with you
I agree. I still pay to see that
Secret Secretsson after all that and he finally got home and there’s one min left in the movie, he’ll be hit by a stray arrow.
Hector was great human being in any perspective like as a brother, son,husband, warrior, king,
And perish was a trash
And as a father.
If Hector had turned his ship around and returned the stolen Queen he would still have a home and a life, so he wasn't that great. His entire civilisation ended because he failed at his duty as a leader.
Hector should have handed Helen over and killed Paris. He ended up costing the doom of troy.
In legends, his wife became a slave to the Greeks and his son died. He made the wrong choices.
Herodotus argued in his Histories that Helen had never in fact arrived at Troy, but was in Egypt during the entire Trojan War.
I imagine the Trojans' anger at a war when Helen wasn't even there.
Let them say *I lived in the time of Corona Virus*
Nice coc pfp
Are you still alive bro?
Let them say I lived in the time Biden of tyranny...who destroying the US 🤣🤣🤣
Still one of The Best movie I ever seen,such a nice movie with a beautiful ending.... respect to Hector and the almighty Achilles
Achilles and briseis love story was really beautiful
The final picture is absolutely amazing. Seeing Achilles's body being consumed by the flames, and the ashy coloumns and the smoke rising slowly along with Sean Bean's eery voice gives me goosebumps. I'm thinking of the previous scenes with Troy flourishing, people cheering, and of Achilles in his prime, moving like a thunder, killing countless men, defying the gods themselves... but at the same time knowing full well that it will eventually come at a price and goes on anyway. And now, here's the final scene and you see, that the price is paid. Troy is nothing but ashes, the whole city turned silent and the sun sets on Achilles's burning stake. He doesn't speak anymore, he doesn't move anymore, his words have come true and all that's left is his name. The god of death is ready to take over and he will be faced with all he has killed in the underworld. And in the upper world nothing remains of the people and glory of Troy, just a few stranded survivors and the city ruins have become silent and the forces of nature have taken over. This is more devastating than any other picture. No foreign rule, be it Greeks or Hettites or anyone else is as intimidating as nature itself in its indifferent cruelty with only the sun the wind and the plants making a change. This is also the reason why the movie Gravity is so moving to me. No wonder what terror is inflicted by humans on each other on Earth, nothing compares to being thrown into sheer nothingness where noone hears you and noone sees you and noone remembers you.
I don't know how much I love this movie.i watched it more than 50 times and still watching the movie scenes .
Try reading the Iliad. You'll love it as everyone does
At the ending I always hoped Briseis was carrying Achiles' child :3
Omg same lmfao I wished that to
Now , do you wish to hope to carry mine ?
@@bigbadwolf4977 huh..? wym..?
@@almighty5839 Me too. But..it's left ambiguous.
I do too!
Such a sad and beautiful ending the way she looks back at the Greeks mourning and burning his body, she loved Achilles and he loved her back she was the only one besides maybe his mother who could give him peace and break through the killing monster that he was.
A superb Movie with superb acting. My all time favourite. The Achilles.
Bard Pitt u nailed it.
I just realised if they did the sequel the Odyssey starring Sean Bean it would kick ass.
Moral of the story.... be a coward, you will live longer and still be remembered!
Remembered as a coward...
and have a city named after you...
Still City Named after him
@@MrYoyoman12345 r/wooosh
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 No.
No matter how many times i will see achilles's death scene, ill feel the tears tickling up my nose and coming from my eyes.
Achilles Gone But Never Forgotten 😩🙏
I've known since the beginning of the film that this would end in tragedy but I just can't accept Achilles and Briseis not ending up together 😢😭💔
It's very sad for me also.It was great revenge if Paris died in this film.
Briseis was raped by the man who butchered her loved ones and forced to marry him to avoid becoming a slave for the soldiers. Not really what you can call love, but once again americans love distorting other peoples myths and histories to make movies oversimplified and best suited to the (lack of) taste of their public...
I know I can't either!
This movie revealed theories and mentalities behind wars which later result in tregadies.
Hector was definitely a wise a brave man but became victim of stupid kings.
+Abdul Hameed i've watched this movie a few times and every time i do i feel a lil bit sadder for hector, he was the only one making sense the entire time
"You want to plan a strategy based on bird signs"
Hector died because of the foolishness of his brother and the naivety of his father.
@@drichreq3748 Yes, Hector was a man of honor and the best man in this story, but he should have punched Paris in the face and turned the ship back to Sparta the moment he realized he'd brought Helen aboard. Lashed him in front of Menelaus till blood dripped down his back to end the hostilities before they started.
Achilles has a heartbreaking caracther arc.
At first we are presented by a man driven by the desire to gain fame,not caring that the king he served under was a greedy rat,not carying that his glory walked hand in hand with his doom,not carying that he’ll probably never have a family.
In the end,he had his name carved in stone,it’s nearly been 4000 years and we are still speaking his name,but in his final moments,he just wished he would have had a man to call “my king” and a woman to call “my wife”.
I like love the funeral pyre scenes in this movie / the fact that they didn’t explicitly show the gods, but implied their influence in small parts throughout the movie.
"Let them say I lived in the time of Hector, breaker of horses. Let them say I lived in the time of Achilles." Epic
Poor Briseus, she knew that fire was Achilles’ funeral.
According to legend, Aeneas, the boy whom Paris gave the sword of troy to, is an ancestor of romulus and remus, the founders of Rome.
This amazing movie saw us the greatness of Greek history , the greatness of Greek spirit! Hello from Athens Greece!
The film is very weak and does not portray wars in antiquity as realism.
Athens is such a beautiful, friendly city. Hello back to you! I hope I get to visit Greece again someday.
Silver Owl I wish!
Watched this in our Ancient History class and everyone was full hating on Paris. He DID NOTHING RIGHT
I get goosebumps at those finals words of Sean Bean in the end of the movie. every time. "let them say..." etc.
Just realizes Paris basically end up with the girl of Hector, Achilles and Menelaus, three 10/10
Fan fact: the descendats of these trojan refugees founded Rome and later conquered Greece and all of Europe. Talk about revenge.
and then the greeks later rule the eastern roman empire until 1453
I wish Achilles survived.
Just to remind everyone Sean Bean just survived a war movie
I just wish they would have made it an odyssey movie.
"Revenge will be taken by Rome"
So 95% of the cast die, yet SEAN BEAN lives!! I mean SEAN FUCKING BEAN!!!!!!!!!
"Let them say , I lived in the time of Jesus Christ." That would be the GREATEST HONOR, above all. Truly , I say to you . He's the only one whom name never died.
Jesus Christ was a pussy who fucked up the world long after he was gone due to his manipulation of the masses for his own desire for power. "Religion is the opium of the masses." How many fucking wars have happened in the name of Christianity? How many people have suffered gruesome fates because of this motherfucker's desire to have a name for himself and to have power in his lifetime?
@@danielkola2929 shut up kid
@@danielkola2929 I'm not even a Christian, but the stuff you saying is some serious shit . Might get trolled to nothingness.
I love that Odysseus cares for Achilles somewhat like a loving Uncle in this movie.
“Let them say, I lived in the time of Achilles...and Aragon...and Robert Baratheon.”
Brilliant film of such a powerful ancient legend, that was probably true!
The film is average, tries to be realistic, but without the realism and depth of war and peace by Tolstoy.
@@ekaterinaalexandrovnashche3416 not actually following homer the original writer of it all either...too bad.
@@ekaterinaalexandrovnashche3416 Stfu.. it's a great film, stop being a critique in everything you find good
It's now 14 years old and I think we're due for The Odyssey sequel with Sean Bean!
Yes plz
In this movie, Sean Bean lives and everyone else dies! A Stark reversal of the usual situation.
First time I see this extended scene. Thx.
Goddamn Briseis is absolutely gorgeous what a woman !
Sean Bean: "Men rise and fall like the winter wheat"
He was Foreshadowing Game of thrones even before Game of thrones.
m i the only person who cried for Achilles?
I crowd too... I could not finish my glass of wine and kabab that night... So sad 😢
@@hyggemania5248 Achilles deserved to data wtf lmao
@@pandaslayer2942 data?????????? Wtf are you on about
i cried
He deserved it for killing Hector
I love the background music of this movie
Go Aeneas, you're all us
As Achilles’ story end, Odysseus’ story begins.
They should have directly made the Odyssey .... With Sean!
Is anyone else surprised Sean Bean lived?! He dies in everything else so I figured they kill off his character in this too. Even if he is indeed the narrator.
Fuck you
Movies that sean bean survives
1.Troy
2.The Martian
3.Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief
I love the fact that in the end Andromaches baby doesn't get killed. 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖 Normally, that's what happened!!
agtsil tsilag yeah! I know. I'm Greek actually my friend. But why????Thank God it's different here
Yes thank God right! This one was less brutal. I was so relieved with this one. Even if it doesn’t fit the usual version.
All because Paris couldn't keep his pecker in his robe!!
Actually Paris was killed by a soldier who had met Hercules and he was given his poisonous arrows.
Hector’s son was thrown from the walls (yes while he was a baby) and his wife was taken as a slave .
Priam and the rest were killed .
Imagine the amount of bullshit Paris had to hear every single day after they left.
Why else do you think he gave Aeneas the sword?
He had Helen. So he wins.
I know Briseis and Hector's wife Really gave it to him lol.. and both women had good reason to
Another viewpoint:
1. Helen had a weakness for Paris whenever he displayed his affections towards her. As long as he continued that, as demonstrated in his tender embrace of her resulting in her submissive response at 0:55 - 1:02, he didn't need to fear the rebuke of her tongue.
2. Crown Princess Andromache (Hector's wife) might have been a different matter but if she was as noble as her husband, then out of respect for his memory, she would refrain from criticizing Paris.
3. As Achilles' concubine, Princess Briseis had no standing in the community of survivors to criticize anyone since she had consorted with Troy's enemies, even if that had not been her original intention when she approached the Greeks' camp.
And he did deserve more of that bullshit .
It took almost than 3000 years and a movie that does not follow the original story whatsoever, but this is the (half) happy ending everyone had been wishing for since Homer himself was singing the Iliad😱😱
Greeks are the most gifted and full of dignity nation! Their wisdom is unmatched!
"They should have killed Aeneas" every greek 146 bc
Came to bite them back in the ass didnt it lol
Karma
And then Rome and Roman Empire won't be happening at all
why kill aeneas and every greek
I know the love story centered around Helen but I liked Briseis & Achilles romance more. Plus Briseis was a bit more of a badass Helen was weak. I like her name to Briseis it is a unique name.
Yes,me too bro
"Let them say, I lived in the time of Hector tamer of Horses. Let them say, I lived in the time of Wolfgang Peterson." Director of this movie. R.I.P.
Amazing ending love the voice ❤️
1:12 God she's a genuine beautiful woman.
Achilles to Briseis:
"You give me peace, in a war of lifetime"
Me: With paris, why shoot him? 😭
The most surprising thing about this tale is that Sean Bean survived
I love this music
Helen should have stayed home ...
Yeah true, Menelaus was actually a pretty good guy and husband to Helen, i just cant get over the fact that in this movie he is portrayed as a cruel cheating pig and that they make the helen abduction look more like a rescue mission
@@IamPatrickStar and In the book he lives
@@IamPatrickStar even netflix did a better job with Menelaus
- Start a war
- Run away to your brother when you're about to loose a duel
- Watch everyone die
- Kill a legend
- Run away
- Refuses to elaborate further
París: Cowardllionaire grindset
This name shall never die
Sean Bean isn't dying in this scene. **ding**
Love for hector
Love for achilis
Love for briseis
Holy shit! Sean Bean didn't die WHAAAAT
"Only the dead have seen the end of war"
Never seen this ending
+Ben Sweeney What the fuck me too.
cause it's the Blu ray version, there is about 40 min. more movie on that
Cause this scene was cut, they didn't put it into the movie.
Its from the directors cut actually and I guess the blue ray version as well. Some of the music is slightly different in places as well because of added scenes.
Hector was the greatest off all. He killed and was killed not for honour but for the sake of his nation and his land.
Few hundred years later, they founded an empire; Rome-- and we all know what happened.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Prince Hector the Wise? Its not a story the Greek would tell you... *proceeds to invade Greece*
I knew all along that Achilles was going to die, still didn't want him to
Excellent film. Very interesting occasion.
Does anyone else want to see a movie called Odyssey starring Sean Bean? There is one from 199something with Armand Assante, but I think it can be done better.
That could've been the sequel. They missed an opportunity with that.
paradoxinhumanshape i know that movie and it was well done;
But with better effects of today, yes it can be. But it needs the greatest director!
I'm looking @ you Christopher Nolan.
I love that film by Andron Konchalovskiy, russian director.
Υπέροχη ταινία και ότι πιο κοντινό στην ελληνική μας απόδοση...! Ωστόσο με κάποιες αστοχίες... Ο Αχιλλέας πέθανε πριν μπουν οι Αχαιοί στην Τροία, ο Μενέλαος δεν πέθανε στον πόλεμο, από την Τροία δεν σώθηκε κανείς, ο Μενέλαος δεν ήταν τόσο φανατικός, τη Χρυσηίδα δεν την έδειξαν καθόλου, η παρέμβαση από τους Θεούς δεν υπήρχε στην ταινία κι έλειπαν κι άλλα πρόσωπα... Παρόλο αυτά η ταινία είναι πολύ καλή!!!
Και ο Αγαμέμνονος δεν πέθανε στην Τροία αλλά από την γυναίκα του και τον εραστή της όταν επέστρεψε στην Ελλάδα
Και αυτό που με ενόχλησε περισσότερο. Ο Μενέλαος δεν έχει καμία σχέση με αυτόν στην ταινία και ο Πάρης πέθανε από δηλητηριασμένο βέλος.
Από την Τροία πάντως σώθηκαν κάποιοι. Ο Αινίας με τον πατέρα του και τον γιό του και ο Αντήνορας με τους γιους του.
Πάλι καλά δηλαδή πού κρατήσανε το ποιός εφεύρε τον Δούρειο ίππο και την Αλαζονεία του Αγαμέμνονα. Μεγάλο λάθος κατά τη γνώμη μου να σκοτώσουν τον Μενέλαο, αγαπάμε Brendan Gleeson, και θεωρώ ότι καλά έκαναν και έκοψαν τελείως τη θεϊκή παρέμβαση γιατί θα φαινόταν γέλιο να σωθεί ο Πάρης από την Αφροδίτη εκεί που πάει να τον φάει ο Μενέλαος.
very emotional. 😢😢😢😢😢
I've always wanted to know what happened with the Trojans for years! I finally got to see it! Thank youuu!