2025 Indian Scout: Familiar Attitude, New Potential!
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- 💭 The first-generation Indian Scout, in this form, released in 2014. 10 years later, the 2025 aims to reinvent what made Scout popular among many riders. With 5 new models, each Scout has a different flavor with hidden attitude powered by a new engine. I got the opportunity to ride each one in mixed environments, here are my impressions.
0:00 Intro
0:33 Features
4:12 Powertrain
10:39 Super Scout Ride
26:43 Scout Classic Ride
35:48 Scout Bobber Ride
42:53 101 Scout Ride
50:19 Sport Scout Ride
01:01:30 An Icon's Evolution
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Indian just makes really beautiful and fast machines- on a ride on my Chief Bobber I stopped at a lookout above Borrego Springs here in the SoCal desert and a 75 yr old lady walked up and just loved it- she told me when she was a little girl Indians were the bike to have because they were just fast and beautiful looking, she was so happy that Indian still exists- I get that often, not that Harley isn’t also beautiful but people love to see these Indian bikes
Sales of this bike will be good for the brand….as well as all the aftermarket exhausts that will be sold for every bike bought off the dealership floor.
Man.. the exhaust market is gonna be HOT for this.
Careful in california freedom is a criminal offense.
I like that exhaust a LOT more than the two huge hangers on the current one.
@@BrandonBicassojust avoid california its a tyranny the gestapo will get mad at you for excersizing that kind of freedom there
It feels like reuniting with an old friend. I remember watching you on the OG Bobber. Oh how time flies. That Scout 101 is 🔥.
Very true. I enjoyed it! Wish I could get my OG Scout back. It was more than likely sold in pieces at the time.
Indians attention to detail is amazing. Glad I waited instead of buying the nightster
Their analog guages look really good too
True!!
THIS is the video I've been waiting for. Brandon.. your reviews are so smooth and thorough. Im in no way in a market for a scout but im so happy about Indians updated scout. Thank you sir. I appreciated every minute of this video.
The new bobber line, doesn't trigger that "take my money" anymore. The old bobber instantly appeared to me in a way that I needed that bike. But these ones are just not the raw bobber that the previous one was. I am out Indian.
Indian lost you, but it gained me and many others😊
@@Wicked_RotF30 yeah, time will tell.
B&B, this is by far the most awesome review video you’ve done. I truly enjoyed each and every minute of it, before I knew it an hour had gone by, that is great entertainment. Thank you so much, looks like you had a blast 👍🏻
You always do a fantastic job reviewing these new bikes!! Thanks for the info
Amazing video dude, thank you for your effort!
Thanks man - great ride and review.
Outstanding Motorcycle review Brandon. You always have the very best motorcycle reviews. Your video angles and narrations are the best on CZcams in my opinion.
Another great intro to the new 25 Scout line-up. Well Done man.
Brandon ,great reviews on the Indian bikes 👍 infos that we need,not too technical. Loving my Indian Scout , thank you
This was such a wonderful video to watch. Such beautiful footage and great commentary.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a video! Very in depth Brandon, awesome job. I have a '19 Scout Bobber and if I weren't so dead set on buying a challenger, I'd trade in for a new scout. Great riding too, you know how to take those corners!
Yeah those SF Hills are no joke.
Great video Brandon. I know that you have said the rebuild videos are you favorite but you do these so well. I feel like I’m there on the bike.
That's all in the camera placement. Appreciate you looking at it from that point of view.
Great vid man !!!
Pescadero creek road is a fun ride.
Alpine road too.
Oh yeah! I can't wait to watch this video! I'm heading out right now, but when I get back this afternoon, this video will have ALL of my attention.
Enjoy : )
@BrandonBicasso I did, and it was a fantastic video! I really, really hope that they release the Scout Classic in Jade Green!
Can't wait for the demo days. Need to ride this bike! thanks brandon for a great review!
Hands down you always do the best ride reviews. I am glad Indian reaches out to you. I can tell you appreciate their bikes. There are other CZcams motorcycle content creators that are too much of a Harley fanboy to be really honest
Thanks, as always.
Looks like Indian has given the new Scout what we asked for but not improved the suspension! Good review thank for posting.
Cant you option the better piggies
Thanx for that great video-i decided to buy the 101!
Greetings from austria!
Sure thing! Enjoy 🤙🏾
Great review!💯🔥
Great to hear the enthusiasm during your rides. Hoping someone will get one local soon. I have to get on one and test it out.
This video is gonna make me late for bed. Damn you bicasso.
But in the best way possible ❤❤
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Think I enjoyed that nearly as much as you did Brandon and I'm not even a cruiser fan 😁 Scenery amazing too as you said 👌👏
thank you!
The sight glass is AWESOME. The old one was impossible to check without burning your hand.
40k valve checks is AMAZING.
Have a 2017 scout and absolutely love the bike.
The Bobber is still the best looking one of the bunch.
I can't wait for the demo rides! I test road the Scout when it first came out. Fun bike but did not like the handlebar ergonomics, my right wrist was going numb after about 5 minutes. Anxious to see if made any changes to the bars.
Awesome video man! Can you tell me what setup you use for your helmet audio? I've been struggling with getting that part figured out, mine always cuts out or peaks and then it becomes unusable.
Sennheiser ME 2 mic with GoPro 7/mic adapter. 👌🏾 Also, taping off the vents in the helmet to prevent most wind noise.
Best video on the new scout hands down Brandon! Looks so fun! I have a question: your photography is so on point. What camera are you using for that POV? Again great great video!!
Lumix G85 for all of my POV shots and GoPro 7 on my helmet. All of the moving/drone shots were the camera crew on site. They use Canon equipment. Also, thank you!
@@BrandonBicasso thanks for the info I’m most definitely going to look into that Linux G85! That cinematography is excellent! Again man best video so far the Indian scouts! Watched it from beginning to end. Can’t wait for the next one. Peace!
Not in the market but always looked at the scout. Took me a couple days to watch the full thing..man cruise control and increased fuel range is a big deal wonder what the price in canada will be. Good job on the vid dude.
Appreciate it, Fam. Was easier for me to drop the whole thing at once than try to do multiple videos. A lot of info packed in one place so no need to jump around.
Friction riding is key in SF! My 2020 S60 does well when slow riding but cooks the hell out of my legs lol
lol, gotta get up to high way speeds and cool that thang off. 😂
I can't wait to watch this I'm going to sit down and make this into like a movie I love your content and if it's not too much to ask I would love to see a Chiefs sport versus a scout 101 to a buyer's comparison
I just bought a 2017 scout classic this year it leave a fair amount to be desired. I think I'm go to tey and get the 101
hi, great video thank you! , I have a 2022 FTR and I'm thinking about changing to a Scout
because I'm very often below 5000 rpm, and the style is awesome,
I know you have an FTR, what you think between these two engines?
It feels similar to a FTR engine, but the chassis setup makes it a different experience. You sit more over the engine on FTR and fuel under you versus the engine and fuel in front of you on Scout. Both are rev-happy engines, but Scout is geared towards chill riding too with Super/Scout Classic. This gear ratio helps with not having to shift as early so that helps with that chill experience if you want it. Or.. ya know.. rev it out.
Make sure you've planned financially for the ride. Long distances require frequent stops. Bike trips are more expensive than one would expect if they've never done it before.
A 101 Scout with Super accessories would be my jam. A 101 Super Scout.
It was wild seeing you ride all the Bay’s best spots. Your guide must be a local, even brought you to Sharp Park.
Yeah, our guide was a beast. He always does the leading on these type of rides. A real treat.
Great review Brandon! As a previous Octane owner I am interested. I need to see the MID controls first. Thanks Sir!
Def check'em out. I still haven't seen what that option looks like, but at least it's there now.
That Scout scoots! I'll take the Classic in red with the bags, but they better offer some floorboards as I don't have the inseam for those pegs way up there.
Floorboards are an option as they were on previous Scout.
An hour of Bicasso goodness? Sign me up
i somehow opened a video of a bigger channel then just came and searched and want to watch this video before that. and it's all the time with these new bikes
Need more Folks like you willing to take a chance.
@@BrandonBicasso appreciate everything.
Haven't seen Frisco look this nice in a looooong time. Sexy Scouts dont hurt.
If you were me and your choice was 2024 Rouge Copper slashed to 12,300 plus tax etc etc. Or get the 2025 Scout Sport for like 14 and change, what would you do? Thinking of putting like 5 or y down and financing the rest but dont want my payments more that low 2s per month? I am very torn
Looks great B, really a cool update to the Victory Octane, bringing that aggression 😎
Scout came out before the octane
@@pin75us1sure tho origins of Scout are debated, Octane and FTR mills came out of project 156, compared to Scout the Octane had tighter gear ratios, bigger motor, hotter cans, 110hp in stage1 form, and longer suspension travel, 34 deg lean, only 35% was shared with Scout, new Sport and 101 remind me a lot but obviously evolved, miss my Octane, good bike ❤
The octanes are definitely bad ass bikes
Been looking at the scout bobber vs scout 101, you mentioned the 101 was your favorite. Was it a big difference from the bobber, and how was the suspension compared to the bobber?
2” of suspension compared to 3” is very noticeable. I wouldn’t get a Bobber without it.
Do you think it'd be fine then with the added extra suspension that can be added on, or not worth the effort?
Also, thank you for the info!
@@zelxperus745 that’s a personal choice you’ll only know riding it. But if you got a Bobber and wanted to add the 101 rear suspension (or the others without the adjustable piece) later, would take an hour to swap the shocks.
Been looking at this and the new nighster. I know the nightster will be a bit quicker but this bike is just better looking especially with bags and windshield on it
Yeah, Nightster weighs less. Surprised me a lot when I rode it.
Hey Brandon, great Video. Answered a lot of my concerns. Fact is I am really into scout 101. The only thing is, you and the other guys mentioned "stalling" quite often at the beginning of the vid. Now is that a preproduction problem and is it solved now. Buying a bike that has known technical or mechanical issues is...well... questionable at best.
Do you have more details on that?
Thx again for the great content. U doing a great job. Easy to understand and great eye for details
I don't have more info on that, unfortunately. Someone present mentioned that it can happen on the FTR as well but doesn't after the bike is up to operating temperature. My guess is possibly the tuning on the clutch was at the edge of the friction zone and maybe involved the clutch assist. At operating temps, all the metal expands so less likely to happen. Other than the few mishaps, I had no issues with it but worth noting.
Thank you for the reply. Well I guess, I will see when I get to testride it myself. Maybe a slight idle increase solves it.
Reckon re ‘brakes’ B, that 101 looks set up to run much harder on its front brakes, which is of course counter intuitive to cruiser technique, Rocket3 was same tho it had a massive rear brake, but be cool if you did a back to back 101/FTR/Nightshift/SportsterS 😎 💡
Yeah, it was a bit odd. People thought I was dragging the rear brakes all the way downhill. I thought that was silly lol.
Subscribed to your channel. Placed my order for a smoke black 2025 Bobber limited + tech! I’m excited. My first bike was a 2004 Harley 1200 Custom that I had yeaaars ago. Wondering you think the new bobber will compare to that bike?
Will be a night and day difference. Congrats! Prepare for those suspension woes, tho!
@@BrandonBicasso that’s my worry. These are all so new that everyone keeps talking about them comparatively - which makes sense - but the suspension is talked so badly for it. Would you generally say after riding for a while that better suspension (3” for example) should be considered? Or do you think of that as sacrilegious on a bobber?
I bought a Bobber in 2017 and was content with it. The suspension upgrade wasn't worth it to me then. Now, I'd consider it. If you can afford it, consider the upgrade after enjoying the bike a bit. There are more options available than when I bought mine. Also, you can get the adjustable rear suspension off 101 Scout no issues. You got options at least, but 2" suspension for the Bobber look is def part of what makes it... it.
Brandon, I averaged 58 MPG on steady interstate riding at roughly 70 MPH on a 2020 Scout Bobber Twenty. So.. MPG I suspect really isn't going to be different here. Average overall on the old Bobber was 46-48 MPG with mixed riding.
Right so if 20 miles more to a tank is real.. that's a lot for a bike like this. In my opinion anyway. Some folks are wanting a 5 gallon tank but will have other complaints when the look, wheelbase and center of gravity are off to support that.
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I'll be riding one Wednesday!
Let me know how it goes!
"It knows what it is, and it has a chip on it's shoulder" 😂
Awesome ride. Is there a way for a non-blogger to take a similar trip with Indian?
Not on these type of rides. Media and press only. There's other rides with the Indian owner groups though.
By comparison: How does the steel frame tubing feel over the aluminum? Can you feel a difference?
Historically the aluminum being a softer metal absorbs vibration over the steel. Hence the reason high end mountain bicycles are aluminum.
What are your thoughts?
My 22 Scout Bobber ABS Icon is aluminum and I want to move up to the newer 101, just need to wait until Indian works out all of the bugs. My bobber still has the stick seat and suspension so, it’s very bumpy. When I travel on the highway, I use extra caution. I’ve almost been thrown off.
Been awhile since I’ve been on one but I had no issues with vibration or buzzing on the steel frame. Same as my Chief.
I was put off by the jdes of the aluminum frame but i was impressed seeing it tbh and feeling how light the bike was. But man the steel you need less of it to do a better job in terms of cleaning things up getting the lines to look better.
is it worth an upgrade if i already own a bobber?
Have to ride it and answer that yourself.
Do you prefer the Scout over the Chief? Is it faster? One of the reasons I bought a Super Chief was I wanted low RPMs at highway speeds. As far as the wind buffeting, this is the first bike I've owned with a windshield so I have nothing to compare it to but so far I'm loving my SCL! It's beautiful and it's a BEAST!!!
Scout has more top end, less weight so it will outrun a Chief. Also, Scout makes most of its power at 7500rpm. You're shifting Chief at 5400rpm so you're still pulling on Scout. Different kind of ride, but a Chief would come off the line crazy strong with the torque and taper off. (stock anyway) I prefer my Chief tho. I like the torque and Thunderstroke character.
Does this mean I should now refer to my Rogue as a Sport Scout?
They finally did something about that ugly frame. Good video Brandon. As usual
Why are certain options not available on Canadian models?
My guess is government regulation. Same as why it’s illegal to have tint windshields.
You dont have freedom like we do south of you
why not put some teflon on the scraping parts
It would be interesting to understand of the people coming in, how many would pay cash for their houses. Interest rates go up to slow the market but it's only effecting the people that already have loans and the handful of people that can actually afford to buy a place.
And I still don’t know which way to go with it…. I’m a short rider that’s in the market for a 1st bike that I can grow with. (I still drive my 1st car. It might be a sentimental thing). And I love the look of all of them on video and I’m probably going to sit on a couple tomorrow to see if that helps. But the amount of honest feedback is definitely appreciated.
Best thing for you to do is go sit on them. I give my feedback and try to show as much on camera to satisfy curiosity. Seeing them in person and touching them gives out a different feeling. You’re in the right direction even if Scout isn’t for you, but it’s tailored for short riders. Totally get the feelings!
Im thinkingh about 101 scout of Rogue scout 2025, opinions?
Well.. depends on if you want the Brembo brakes and adjustable/inverted suspension. If that's not important, Rogue. Easier to flash the ecm for the horsepower than add the braking/front suspension system. Can also add the rear adjustable suspension later.
@@BrandonBicasso Alrighty then, thanks for the input 👏
Common complaint about the Bobber is the 2" rear suspension is not enough. Do you think by upgrading to the Piggy back rear suspension offered as an upgrade from Indian will solve that problem?
It will help. You’ll lose a bit of the slammed look but will also gain 2 degrees of clearance in the corners.
Are the rear shocks the only difference?
Fantastic film and review. You videos are far above your counterparts in my opinion
I seriously need to know what Indian plans for the Sport Chief, the Scout 101 is a really good deal compared to it.
Brandon, u are riding a sport scout in black metallic.. but I found it only in black smoke or red… I want that metallic finish paint!
The bike I rode with black metallic was Super Scout. Sport Scout was black smoke (matte). You can get either in black metallic. Check Indian’s site.
Ye sorry, I mean super scout.. according to the Indian site the only 2 color.. black smoke and red
@@Leos1488 That's odd. For Super Scout I see Black Metallic, Black Smoke with Graphics and Maroon Metallic with Graphics as options on Indian's US site.
My 101 is on the way.
Oooouuuu, white or red?
@@BrandonBicasso Went with Red
They really are forcing you into that 101 or limited plus with that dual front brakes
They are. Strategic with the product offering.
Scraping pegs is the best.
I really do enjoy it haha.
Great review, Brandon! I don't care about screens or paint. I just want to know which one will scare the hell out of me because for that money I need to know if she is the ONE. My SV1000S is getting long in the tooth....but is still The One. CA roads are a conundrum. Highest taxes, worst roads. Thanks, Gov!
I wouldn't say either will scare an experienced rider. It still has a beginner entry point with peaks of higher performance for other experience levers. It'll wheelie and do rolling burnouts easily so it's a flexible platform.
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Nice. I guess elsewhere is where is where I need to look for THE ONE!
I mean… if you got $95k, I know a guy who builds the 400hp supercharged SuperBusa. I rode one and it scared me. 😂
Torn between Bobber and Sport. I wonder why we can spec the batwing fairing on Bobber but cant spec it on Sport? I prefer this engine design over the old. I dont like any chrome or shiny bits on bikes at all. Give me a plain all black engine and bike, I'd be happy.
Interesting. I haven’t played with the combinations on the bike generator. Sport/101 use different upper triples from Classic, Super and Bobber. Might be the reason.
My brother lived in SF for a few years (he doesn't recommend it), but yeah those hills are brutal. He tore that town up on his warrior 1700. All of that low end torque was very useful for hilly SF.
BTW, excellent video!
I wish Indian would liquid cool their chief lines.
It’s coming. Just a market demand thing right now.
Brandon saved my marriage!
Now how on Earth did Brandon do that?
I'm sad they changed the look. I loveee the current model. 2024 is the last model year on the old style 😢😢
Will it have a chance against a Kawasaki Z1000? I like the way the scout and chief look
What's a chance? Stop light to stop light, probably. 1/4 mile, probably not. More weight, less top end. Riding with friends on a twisty back road, sure. Track day, probably not.
@@BrandonBicasso I don’t know? 0 to 60 on the Z1000 is 2.5 seconds 0 to 100 is 4.3 seconds
@@BrandonBicasso The Z1000 for a sport naked is a torque beast
I live near there. 6:47
I was almost first lol
Honorary 🫶🏾
Minute 24 engine breaking. Both the Suzuki bikes I have owned have the worst engine breaking I have ever experienced.
Interesting. My 109 was pretty aggressive until I removed some back pressure on the exhaust with an aftermarket.
They stalled because you have to keep the throttle loaded
Nonsense
i hate this whole adding software to analog experiences... to a degree it is great but once u get to this point a software issue making the bike/vehicle a brick is so sad..
Nope, the indian chjef sport that air cook engine is juat cool.
Another banga are you gonna get one? Lol
Lol naw... If I could afford one, sure.
The Scout excelled at two things - styling and performance. The new one hits the performance and features, but misses on the styling and character.
They lost a lot of character over previous scout models. Looks more of a generic build now with more tech. I like the raw bobber look and feel of recent years and I think the value of those will go up as an unintended result of this design shift. So many great custom builds on CZcams, and the motor just looks amazing up until 2024. The newer tank isn’t doing it for me, and the exhaust takes something away as well.
Don’t understand why the “sport scout” looks like a smaller “sport chief,” but without the inverted forks. Kinda strange to have “sport models” with different key components within your brand lineup.
I'm indifferent to the look, always subjective. I do like the newer frame. Older style is heavier, but it was more distinct. My Scout is stripped in the garage down to the engine. Wanted to powder coat the heads, but that's difficult because of the industrial design. Thunderstroke's outer heads are only covers so I was able to coat those. Different objectives in my thought process, but the new Scout has more flexibility to customize it. Debatable still.
Change ain’t all bad. I just hope they keep the distinct scout look, since that is often half the reason so many people buy it.
For sure. It still looks like a Scout. Especially the Scout Bobber. Not much different besides the amount of visible frame and added lines on the body. It's like a mini Chief, but side by side they look different. There's always that objective group on the decision choice. If they did nothing but add tech/engine, still would be scrutinized for not being different enough. Can't please all the sides so if Folks want it, they'll buy it. If not, they'll find another option. Me.. I can't afford it so I'm finding another option by working on adding similar tech to mine.
I dont think i am a fan of the new bobber. I feel the older one looks better, more aggressive.
Fair take.
Kinda sucks I got a 2022 Bobber and 3 years later they put all the stuff we Scout owners have been bitching about into the new models.
Left us in the dust.
Three YEARS. Do you hear yourself? You bought the bike you bought. Changes comes to everything. Cars, phones, TVs, etc.
They absolutly killed the exhaust sound... so weak compared to the previous years models.
Hopefully this is fixable with after market cans.
So disappointed.
We need to skip the BS and adopt active exhausts like ford did with the mustangs. So we jjst dont have to mess around with them anymore. I hit a button after i leave my neiguborhood at 3am and then the exhuast opens up. Already spending so much anyway you feel me would be nice if it was all buikt into the tuning properly etc
60 mpg WRONG
I disagree but you got it. ✌🏾
Sup B...
Haven't heard from anyone if any of the new scouts have tpms sensors and show on the screen? The sport I think is the 🎟 ticket.
The option is in ride command but you need to add the sensors. Same as Chief. Dismount the tires from the wheel and add it.
@@BrandonBicasso I asked a dealership near me about TPMS from Indian and they said they do not expect an option anytime soon and did not know of a way for any 3rd party options. Will you please elaborate on what type might actually work? This has been a much sought after option for me, and was a bummer to find out I cannot upgrade to it from Indian. I plan to get a 101 soon.
@@usamac4108 Sure. Indian Chief doesn't come with TPMS sensors, but ride command has the option for it. Removed my wheels and added the sensor from Chieftain/Challenger. Used a tool I got off Amazon and mapped them to ride command. Here's a video showing that. czcams.com/video/BK3UF0_l_74/video.htmlsi=TyXEGab8y0gYfZwn&t=110
I'm pretty sure the same thing with Scout is possible. The only thing I don't know is if they put the TPMS slot on the wheels. If not, would have to run a Chief/Chieftain wheel to make it work. A dealership isn't going to do something like that, unfortunately. Will have to yourself.
@@BrandonBicasso awesome, thank you!