Ten Worst Types Of DLC In History (The Jimquisition)
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Everybody loves lists, especially people who say they don't. The Jimquisition this week roots through history's garbage to find the ten worst types of DLC in videogame history.
At least until we think of ten more, then we can do another list. Lists are great!
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I was born into the darkness, Batman, shaped by it. You only unlocked the darkness by paying for the $9.99 Darkness Acceleration Pack.
TropicalPriest slightly underrated comment
Bruce Wayne is literally Pay to Win
OnTheFencer lmao
+OnTheFencer
*The whole Justice League is having a Star Wars Battlefront II game night as their get-together, and Batman is easily beating everyone.*
Flash: “What are your superpowers again?”
Bruce Wayne: “I’m Rich.”
I love your name. It's from that Korean karaoke video right?
I'm an old man. I see dlc, I wait for the goty/complete edition. I see microtransactions, I pull my middle finger out.
Same here. 38 years old this year. I remember when games where games and not money vampires that never quit. So now I only buy games that are complete packages with all the content ever released. Otherwise devs and publishers can fuck RIGHT OFF!
Here's hoping things like 12:58 don't take off and become the new norm for "complete" edition re-releases.
Zeusexy Niceeeeeee.
Zeusexy I was sad when I realised that the goty edition of Borderlands 2 doesnt come with everything.
Madway it comes with pretty much everything that matters though, what's left is mediocre at best.
Why don't we call on-disc "DLC" just LC? Locked content.
Loadable content
But that doesn't sound as hip and trendy! And "locked" has overly accurate negative connotations that would make the customers uncomfortable and possibly prevent the transformation of players into payers. After all, those poor, poor shareholders all need golden yachts big enough to contain a swimming pool which they then have to pay to fill with caviar just for the simple everyday luxury of swimming in disgustingly overpriced fish egg paste. It must be so hard being rich...
Why do we let corporations change our language anyway?
The question is why PC games expansions are called DLC when WHOLE games have been downloadable for more than a decade now.
The dumbest one was when marketers tryied to make the term "digital download" popular. As if you could instead "download" actual physical bricks on your computer or something like that.
Or BC, buyable content... Cause usually we can't just download it, we gotta fucking pay for it first, so DLC doesn't really make much sense.
Title of Video: Ten Worst Types Of DLC In History
CZcams Category: Game: The Sims 4
Yeah, that seems about right.
The sims 2 was fucking awful for dlc
@@battyflaps5410 Worse than Sims 4?
That intro. Genius. Just genius.
Yeah someone made that for him like 2 or 3 years ago.
I gave the video a like before the intro was done.
Nice seeing you here gopher! Cheers!
For him and the beloved Jonathan H.
whats the song on the intro?
But without all this dlc, what else is going to provide us with a sense of pride and accomplishment?
IGV IOS and Android Gameplay Trailers A Tv that looks like an apple?
Good joke lol
I was thinkinga bout getting DBZ Fighters ont he ps4 up until they announced day 1 DLC..that totally killed my hype for the game, it was pretty stupid from them to do that
PirateChest bro This game is not worth 60 dollars it is going to get many characters DLC more than 9
IGV IOS and Android Gameplay Trailers game trophys? competition where you win cash or mlg gaming. Leader boards? montages? but wait all of the above are free!
I feel morally justified in pirating the Sims 4. Just saying.
Actually snarkiness aside I honestly think buying the base game and then pirating all the DLC is morally justifiable for any Sims game. It's actually what I've done since the original Sims. Maybe if programmers got paid royalties I'd change my mind in the future.
Hey, it's not just the programmers that do the work ;P
Oof, you just reminded me how I've spent so much on Sims expansions in my life.
Its why i demand revenue share for every copy sold of a game i worked on as well as being paid for my work.
Most programmers are salaried or paid hourly. Programmer's code is owned by the company, not by the programmer. That's how our contracts work. When you think developer, you are thinking too much of TV shows where some developer does everything and gets all the glory. The reality is less glamorous then that. Really you work on one bit, another guy works on another bit and together you build the thing but ultimatly it's the company's product not your own. The company is already paying you, why would they pay you a second time?
I will say though, some game devs really arn't paid enough.
@@Stettafire I dont work AAA never will and when i do work with someone the revenue share is agreed on beforehand.
Like, something is wrong when you get more content from buying a game from 10 years ago. It's like one of those fairytales where we discover an advanced and forgotten civilization of the past that far surpasses our current technology...
As dated as a lot of older games are, their objective to be a game first and money maker second should be something we consider timeless.
Games from about 2010 and earlier are the golden geese IMO. Practically microtransaction free save for a few which tbh were so unheard of at that point nobody really cared. Lootboxes weren't even a sperm in Activision's nutsack yet, the original Black Ops game had just come out, Modern Warfare 2 was still the current MW game, Skyrim was on the horizon, WoW was still on the Wrath of the Lich king expansion, Diablo 3 was confirmed and on it's way, I had just finished with high school... -inhales deeply- ah, them was the days.
@@jaklawrence8616 That really does sound like it was a great time for games.
@@jaklawrence8616 Not sure we want to mention Diablo 3 in a list of things that don't have shitty business practices. Have we all forgotten the always online DRM and the real money marketplace? Personally I think the early 2000s was a pretty kickass era, but I'm biased in favor of the PS2 era because it's when I started gaming. Got a special place in my heart for Tron 2.0 and MDK 2.
@@YukonHexsun The ps2 and the Xbox 360 will always have a special place in my heart as my childhood consoles.
Honestly though I've
played a lot of truly great games from this console generation and it's a real shame dumpster fire publishers like EA and Activision are still around to pollute the industry.
That intro when you had the scat man cover had me dying
crash bandicoot I want a hole cover
Who is the only man to defeat me in freestyle?
Only me.
Yes. Only you.
**spins head**
Spoilers, I blame myself
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I wonder when bakers are going to find out you can sell bread one slice at a time.
Fern Moore don't give them any ideas plz
Sliced Bread DLC! Butter and jam subscription service! Unlockable bread flavor and texture varieties!
Mayo, tomato and black forest ham are dlc ;)
Fern Moore About 15 years ago they tried selling bread without crusts at an exorbitant price. At least here in the US.
Eric Black Spotted the corporate sheep. Bleep for me, sheep.
The year is 2028. A new Jimquisition has been posted: "Another Top Ten Worst Types of DLC In History"
Jim ends the video with, "Remember when progression-tied microtransactions were a controversy? I don't think they're as bad as some of the other stuff on this list."
The day has come. None of us wanted it. Jim called it. The end is nigh
That reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch :p
This is why we will eat the rich
Aaron Fraser The fire rises.
REPENT
Paying for playtime: see a lot of mmos. It's existed for a very long time.
Deus Ex Mankind Divided. Made the ending held hostage behind DLC, then said they wouldn't finish the ending because poor sales. Essentially people paid 60 dollars for a game that won't ever be finished. Slimey
They also tried the preorder bonus bullshit, and got called out on it so bad, they discontinued it. xD
...Wow, really? Now I'm glad I never bothered with that game. I mean, frick... MGS V already shat this bed, in addition to Asura's Wrath apparently, and now the disrespectful corpse puppet show that is the modern Deus Ex, is shitting the same bed? Gawd, publishers, good fucking luck finding a maid or janitor willing to clean that up. X.x
Yep and they'll likely never make another Deus Ex game in this story arc and style because "the fans didn't like it". How to ruin a fantastic franchise in a few easy steps.
not even talking about the success of the first game that was on its own complete, they decided to make it a trilogy, the result was that the second game came up being as an set up for the third one, basicaly half assed with all this bullcrap on top of it...realy genius.
Ahoy, matey!
Remember when horse armor was an insult? Remember when that was the worst we'd seen? God I miss those days of innocence...
Nowadays horse armor would be waved away with "It's just cosmetic."
Jim Sterling where i pre-order the loot boxes to gamble for your next video?
Witcher 3, or any RTS modern or old
At least Gal Guns 100 buck DLC had the idea to at least involve psuedo nudity!
real money pip boy skin dlc :P
The fact that you managed to find so much variety in how publishers try to screw consumers for more money from just DLC alone is a testament to the level of greed at these companies.
When the monetisation strategies have become more creative than the content of what is being sold, that's worrying and really sad.
Fable 3 was notorious for DLC. Gotta pay $10 for a damn outfit in a single player game
"The number one worst kind of dlc is free dlc"
-AAA publishers
You forgot a classical *cheat-buyable* from Colin McRae Rally 3, where you literally had to *phone a number* to unlock the codes early on
These DLC should be called: Piracy Encouragement.
these terrible practices drive people to get the complete, pirate version rather than be completely ripped off, there is no way anyone with a pay grade higher than a janitor can't see that. they clearly don't care about pirates, they are just betting on the general public being too stupid and scared to pirate.
@Amunet I think we can all agree that DLC is out of control. I had The Sims. The first one and all of it's expansion packs, 4 or 5. I bought Sims 2 and only getting one Expansion Pack (College) the game didn't feel like it was missing anything. That indeed was a good time to be a gamer.
who said i was a big earner? sounds like you are just a dumb ass looking to get angry, or a shill i guess. what i said is absolutely true, everyone who makes any kind of decision knows these practices cause piracy and they don't give a fuck.
shill it is then. if they cared about the consumer these practices wouldn't exist.
edit: i am gonna follow the advice of some youtuber and just ignore this battle from now on. if you stopped to argue against every idiot and shill you'd burn out before you hit thirty.
Guess its cheaper to rip-off the the costumer than make DLC worth buying.
I think Jim just wanted to make a video where he could justify having both an 'Oh, Ubisoft!' moment and a 'FucKonami News' segment together.
"Oh, Ubisoft!", FucKonami, Activision remastering DLC, and a Xzibit-esque knock on EA and The Sims having so much DLC it has DLC for it's DLC. It's like a Jimquisition greatest hits video.
Pretty cool, though. Tied in well.
worth it
TheNN If you don't count the intro "here is a tv that looks like an apple" "life is good when you're a ninja block" and "cry like an anime fan on prom night" was missing tho.
@sabre sims was all ways a DLC/add-on fest, sim 3 was bad $74k+ to buy all items from the add-on and item shop for it lol
These days I find greater entertainment in the simple thrashing of triple-A video game companies than I do the actual games they produce. It's the wave of the future.
The worst DLC is retailer-specific preorder bonuses that are NEVER made available and are lost to time if you don't get them ALL (or pay $200 on Ebay for the last activation code in existence). Looking at you Dissidia Duodecim.
This happens in the board game industry too, with Kickstarter-exclusive content. :(
Reminds me of the Dishonored 1 retailer DLC packs. When I bought the GOTY on steam (years after it came out btw, I was too young to play it before), I thought that those packs had been lost to time and greed. Thank god they're included in the GOTY edition.
Piracy exclusives
Lets not forget when Mass Effect 3 added a Prothean character that you can only get via dlc. The Prothean were an intriguing mystery, and they had an important rule to both the story, and the universe throughout the series . An extinct race that no one know that much about, but their impact was huge. And you can have one of them as a squad member who somehow survived if you payed $10.
aunt margot and he did. Liara had interesting interactions with as well stuff on the tower. And he was actually a good squad mate for biotic users.
Supposedly he was to be the 'catalyst' for making the Deus Ex Mach... I mean the Prothean Device work. They later decided that he was going to be sold separately as DLC and created the star child instead.
Can't find any source of this though so it's very possible it was just made up. Likely by people who were (justifiably IMO) unhappy with the day 1 DLC.
Yeah, that one was a doozy. I actually played through ME3 without knowing he existed (I went media blackout on the game), and by the time I found out, I was completely soured on the series. Man, ME3 was a total shitshow.
he did play a major role in the main story, he was a fully fleshed out crew member. if you compare From Ashes to the 2 additional squad mates in ME:2 (Zaeed and the ninja chick) it's obvious what they did. in ME:2, the dlc squadmates had very little interactivity after you got them, no interactive dialogue, they would just tell you stories basically and eventually give you a buddy quest. with From Ashes, you had tons of interactive dialogue, a complete story involving half of your crew in multiple fully realized cut scenes. it was very obviously developed to be part of the main game but was probably mandated by EA to carve it out and sell as launch day DLC. between that and Citadel, ME:3 has the worst and best dlc of the series, respectively
This. Fucking this. God I hated this DLC.
"Pornhub is being touted as a real possible CZcams alternative"
I refuse to believe that ad being included in the screenshot was a coincidence
I'd watch Jim on PornHub... for gaming industry news, obviously.
Exantius E. Me too
Pirating the Sims 4 and shitting on EA's terrible business practices is an act of heroism.
That's exactly what I did. I recommend everyone do that
How do people pirate games asking 4 a friend?
Legate Alucard Starts with P and ends in 'irate Bay
Thank god for Russians.
Dont some pirated versions of ts4 get more and more pixely the more you play?
Dlc while game is still in early access, the worst kind
Star citizen in a nutshell. It sells new space ships for shitloads of money despite being in ALPHA. Or you can "rent" ships or do free weekend events if you can't afford them. It's. An. ALPHA
Wew yeah that is maybe even worse than all the ones he mentioned in the video
*cough* Ark *cough*
@@DisDatK9 ark was what i was referencing
still disgusted they did that
The kind of DLC that annoys me the most is the nickle-and-dime DLC: instead of charging you $20 or $30 for a sizable amount of content it's all broken down into packs with nominally small prices that add up to a lot of damned money in the end.
A FucKomani and Oh Ubisoft in one video? You spoil us, Jim.
and remember Fuck Konami
Oh I think you've GOT to give a mention to Capcom's "pay to re-edit your character" in Monster Hunter World. See, the problem is that the Character Creator and the actual GAME use two different models so people would spend HOURS crafting a GORGEOUS character only to get to the actual game and suddenly they look hideous. Fans demanded a do-over option from Capcom and now they're providing it...at a price. So in essence Capcom is "apologizing" for a screw up on their part by...making you pay more money to fix your character.
Now I have heard all manner of defenses of this. Namely:
"MMOs do this all the time!" yeah and MMOs also make you pay for extra character slots too. But here's the thing, that's data on a server that would be strained if everyone was re-editing their character all the time (I guess). Aren't the Monster Hunter characters saved locally?
The other is...
"LOL it doesn't matter you don't see your character's face anyway!" oh trust me, it matters to some people. Myself included. This is an absolute deal breaker for me.
Capcom has not yet named a price for this, but they have "given away" one free edit ticket for everyone. You still cannot see the in-game model in the character creator.
...
...why would you make a completely separate character model used exclusively in the character creator?! I know MHW isn't the only game to do this (FFXI did, I remember that), but it's still baffling and kind of egregious. Kind of false advertising isn't it? People look up the character creator on CZcams, see how AMAZING it looks, get the game and...yeeeah...
yeah, this is extremely stupid thing. I have yet to see a game, no matter online or offline, where your character looks the same in the editor and in the game. even with the same model the lighting makes your character look different. and you can't do anything with it other than keep deleting and remaking your character over and over until it looks how you want it to
wow two different models? Calling that a glaring oversight would be nice, no way those capcom execs didnt realize that and thought meh well sell it back to them
That is some tactical planning from Capcom there, I'm sorry if I'm jumping to conclusions but in what mind would a Dev need to separate models from CC and the main game world so it would not look exactly as the character in CC?
*vsm1* - I'll say GTA V online does it, but then again the models in that game makes your online avatar to always look ugly. 😂
Hear, hear!
Don't forget that time when WB tried to sell the corpse of one of their dead developers for 5$. The backlash was so bad, they abandoned ship on the concept. I'm still not sure what kind of reception they expected. This was on a game already bursting with god damn preorder DLCs and tiered packages.
wtf??
Iirc it was basically the worst conceived charity drive of all time. You get to play with this guy on your team or as a quest npc, I forget which, for a small amount, and 50% was designated for the charity of what he died from.
You can almost see the gears from both sides turning...
"Hey wouldn't this be a great tribute to Mike, especially since our crunch time meant he missed his son's first day of school? Plus we can help ensure no one dies from this with the proceeds!"
vs
"OMG are they trying to profit from Mike dying? That's like, so sick! What greedy scoundrels!"
It's was also communicated in a horribly guilt shamey way, too.
They tried to sell the NPC as a character in game. BUT they were only giving 50% to charity and ONLY in certain territories in the US. So, if you were European your money would not go to charity.
You didn't' number them Jim! How am I supposed to know which one to hate the most? I CANT THINK FOR MYSELF! RAAAH!
Everything on the list is number 2. FucKonami's paid save slot is top of the list.
It went 7 9 10 3 2 6 5 4 8 1
Do I need to buy a DLC to watch the end of this video?
Butt Toaster Its in four pieces and you only have a 1 in 10 chance to get a single piece.
If you don't like the ending, you can buy the 'Actually, I'm just kidding, DLC is awesome' ending for $19.99.
Of course not. You just have to buy lootboxes for $20 to have a chance to unlock it.
Or you can grind for 40 hours.
In The Mind of Kibara no but for a small fee you can skip to the end of the video......you know, to avoid the grind......
Yeah, this week's Konami News is behind a paywall. It's a good one, you should buy it.
people really misunderstood what happened with the asura's wrath dlc. the game's original ending is actually its true ending, the dlc was in fact what the developers had already planned for a sequel which capcom scrapped cause the game didn't sell well. it was capcom's choice to mislabel the dlc as the "true ending", when they should have just called it an expansion. i give massive props to the developers for even bothering to make the dlc honestly, cause imo that's way better than getting nothing, its just a damn shame capcom fucked it all up with their marketing. i get kinda sad whenever people still bring this up but i guess most people don't know the full story.
wow I never knew that and I loved the game. thanks for the real story! 🙏🏿
oh u forgot StarCitzen DLC and "life time or partial incurrence" because paying real money to be able to recover your ingame items is a boat load of fun
Every time I'd seen it before though to be fair you got more than one. Four was pretty standard at least for quite a while. I'd seen as high as 8 free ones. Plus $10 is a lot. They almost entrap you rather than encourage, and since they know it they charge a pretty high price.
You don't pay real money to recover your stuff. Stop spreading false information.
It's ok to have this opinion - although I presume you'd think otherwise if you had played the game recently. But claiming you have to pay money to recover stuff is straight out wrong.
Magnets & Miracles Gaming "its okay to have this option". No. No it isn't.
Luis Gonzalez think the comment this refers too has been deleted. Someone said SC is not fun and will never be afaik
Oh shit was that the fabled director's cut of Dark Knight Rises?
Eric Cassidy
Yes
That was amazing, Bane is a scat man
Dark Knight George Lucas Edition
The 800$ version of assassins creed includes an mp3 file of the dev team laughing at you.
$60: Starter edition
$80: Silver edition
$100: Gold edition
$800: Unobtainium edition
you have some good top ten ideas there mate, glad to see you love top TENS
Indeimaus you only comment this shitty joke about top 10s on every top 10 video to cope with the fact your channel has no actual content and is just the same overplayed "top 10 x things in x" joke video put on repeat over and over again when the horse has already stopped quivering and turned to dust after being beaten again, again and again you glorified quasi-ironic watch mojo clone
Also top 10 dark souls stones 2 when
Indeimaus If he makes another top 10 list, it only means the industry has gotten worse. Oh well, looking forward to the next one
Indeimaus are we getting top 10 rocks in dark souls remastered
OK now I've subbed
Only one channel makes better gaming top tens than Jim Sterling...
That channel is WatchMojo.
"Pornhub is being touted as a real, possible CZcams alternative"
Well, if CZcams ever dies, at least we know where we can go to watch future Jim Sterling videos.
Not sure you are ready for the Top 10 video market. Thumbnail not clickbaity enough for a top ten video and way to much effort and quality put in for the standard "replaying trailers" top ten videos 😄 - Joking aside, great vid as always and sequel worthy 🙂
Add a bit of stolen content and you're good to go 😉
Yeah, the Title should've been "Top 10 WORST Types of DLC in History That Will LITERALLY Make you Throw Up! (Must Watch)" with a zoomed-in screenshot of Ivy from Soulcalibur's breasts as the thumbnail.
Not enough red arrows pointing to stuff on a thumbnail.
I'd like to think Jim was smart enough to NOT add the words TOP and TEN to the title :P
_Angel Molina_ Not good enough. The CZcams Optimisation Gods have decreed that all click-baity title require at least 2 emojis to attract all the trendy cool kids who've missed the emoticon age. Also, a single exclamation point isn't shouty enough.
So:
"✔️ Top 10 WORST Types of DLC in History That Will LITERALLY Make you Throw Up!!!!! 🤮😱 (Must Watch)"
You know what's the saddest part: That otherwise great games like Dragon's Dogma or Azura's Wrath get dragged down by this disgustig shit...
P K Yeah that is because nowadays the greedy publishers force their bullshit on those poor devs
The worst part about Azura's Wrath hasn't even happened yet. What happens when Xbox Live/psn inevitably shuts down? You will no longer be able to buy the ending to the game.
Unless their is a complete edition floating around but even then what about the poor SOB who buy's the original version a decade from now at a yard sale and can't play the ending. All and all a terrible fucking practice. Pretty sure FFXIII 2 did the same thing by selling you the ending. At least I remember hearing that outrage at the time.
This all reminds me of a recenty meme on r/piracy;
CPY edition: all DLC included for $0!
And no, I don't feel guilty about pirating games when game companies are selling special editions without the game, or withholding content so you can pay for it later.
Something worth noting about Launch Day DLC -- the first examples of such (at least that I encountered) were also FREE DLC. With Shale from Dragon Age: Origins, for example, BioWare came right out in advance and apologized, saying this was meant to be a part of the core game but they had to start shipping units so they left it out and then made it DLC, FREE TO EVERYONE WHO BOUGHT THE GAME.
Now, granted, this was probably just a cover for E.A. trying to declare war on the used games market again, but we still accepted the official explanation as, at least, coherent enough to possibly occur in real life and afford the developers the benefit of a doubt. But it's since morphed into a form of "Premium Content", and one that you barely see at all anymore thanks to the rise of the aforementioned pre-order bonuses.
Didn't watch yet, but Asura's Wrath's ending DLC has a weird history. The publisher thought that the game was going to be extremely successful and let the developers begin work on a sequel. Soon after they realized the game was not successful at all, and they put the work on the sequel they had into a DLC to quickly conclude the story.
Huh if true that actually makes that DLC far less objectionable. I mean maybe don't assume success and make sure you provide a complete story in the first go round but hey positive thinking etc.
Horizon ZD is a perfect example of how to do this right. The games story works totally on it's own. Full character arc and a plot with a beginning, middle and end with a satisfying epilogue. They do sequel bait but even if horizon 2 never happens you would never feel like you didn't get the whole story.
BAI GAMING plus the DLC was actually really good! I never regretted buying the asuras wrath dlc for how amazing and awesome the fights were! Showing some background story behind yasha and asura, plus taking on chakravartin?! Best fight in the whole game!
Why wasn't it succesful? It completely slipped under my radar somehow. It sure looks cool. Is it something worth getting?
Space Leopard it is! It's pretty fucking cool as it is it tells a good story and is very fun! The boss battles are pretty sweet!
They should have explained this. Too bad Capcom called it the true ending to the game, therefore giving the wrong impression.
And thousands of people still keep buying this crap and come up with excuses to waste their money...that's the biggest problem and it will not stop or go away.
It is good that there are exceptions to the new rule, but keep the pressure on the industry to keep at least a few of them honest!
most people doesnt care that much about videogames. Right now, you are probably killing some industry but you dont know yet.
You could probably do a whole episode about the on-disc DLC stuff. I remember Capcom originally claiming the DLC characters would be released at a later date, as they were being worked on as a 'bonus' for the Vita version of the game, which was coming out a good 6 months later (I think)
The amount of backlash when it was revealed the characters were not only already in the PS3/360 version of the game, but were pretty much complete, was insane.
Damn, can't believe it's been half a decade since this video came out. Looking back on it is oddly nostalgic in a way
Time flies
I cant say I expected Bane singing Scatman in the intro, but fuck I love it
Pretty sure it's Darude Sandstorm
Bane doing the Scatman. I don't even care anymore what the rest of the video is about.
Also, the first one is really the reason I usually wait for the GOTY edition. Besides having a backlog requiring its own warehouse across three console generations.
Same here, between my PS1, PS2, PS3, N64, Wii, X-Box 360, and PC, I have enough games to last another 4 decades!
My sentiments exactly, Scott. We have decades worth of great games available now. New games are for suckers! And maybe youngsters whose friends also gravitate towards that crap.
Same here, I stopped buying day one when a video game releases, tomorrow I will be going out to buy the complete edition of Injustice 2.
Wait for those sales is the best thing right now. That and backlogs
Also Bane doing scat man is awesome haha
I've just found my way to this channels and have been watching videos for the past two days! Awesome stuff dude!
Just found your videos, and I'm loving the 90's nostalgia. I was amazed at the Ancestral Trail reference :D
I remember when DLC was a promising concept and there are games that do it well adding actual expansions rather than pointless skins and tiny items.
It's a shame that publishers have thoroughly ruined the concept of DLC. For every Secret Armory of General Knoxx or Burial at Sea that expand upon the original game in new ways, you have thoughtless or malicious DLC like...well, like the following.
Can't forget Shivering Isles for Oblivion which could have been a new game entirely if they wanted.
RIght? Witcher 3 dlc is longer then many games lol
Yes! I saw someone complaining about the DLC offered for World of Trucks, but they actually do it right! They come out with map expansions, which take considerable work on their part, for an affordable enough price. They come out with smaller content packs, like different trailers and paint jobs, for just a few dollars per themed pack, again reflective of how much effort the things take to produce. But because so many people are so jaded by abusive practices by other software publishers today, they start seeing red as soon as they see DLC.
Matthew Pollitt as in, the following examples. The Following rocks
That intro will go down in history as the most *legendary* intro ever made.
I want it as its own video tbh
czcams.com/video/uoxD1117P_0/video.html it is it's own video though
I get so angry when I watch Jim's videos. I want us to all riot in the streets over these bad business, anti- consumer practices. I hope these companies figured out why people want to download emulators and cracked versions of their software. This kind of stuff makes me feel like that's a way we can fight back at least.
I’m glad I’m not the only one, watching his videos makes me wonder how anyone can even like video games at this point. It only got worse then when this comment was posted.
i feel like starting a full-on paramilitary group to attack their buildings and take over their funds and i don’t even care about making no fucking better game,just give it to some homeless people.Help those who really need it.Plus,there is a saying that no king should be tich,and i think these companies are a very good example as to why.
Dude, I have pretty much switched fully into the indie games market at this point. More creativity, more artistry, and sure as hell no microtransaction. And even if there are, they only exist on free-to-play games.
This is my new favorite Jimquisition Intro
thank you for talking about the Sims 4! as someone who is admittedly very deep in the Sims rabbit hole, it can be difficult to know what controversies get attention outside of the community. the Sims have added in a fair amount of stuff that was missing at launch (why was it missing at launch, though???) in free patches, which is pretty much the least they can do for not including...pretty much anything. there has been a boycott organised in the Sims community, with people instead donating the $10 for the stuff pack to animal charities, openly sharing links to torrents, and a group of modders who created "Our First Pet Pack" which is a modder-created stuff pack that contains more stuff than the EA version and some of the exact same stuff, just meshed by modders. for free.
as someone who has been a fan of the Sims since the beginning, this is really fucking disgusting and I won't be buying any more Sims 4 packs.
it's weird that my love of Sims and Jims has overlapped, but this is the best way I could've asked for.
bananamunchkin94 I truly despise the Sims 4, it makes the Sims 3 looks reasonable, when it was the same bollocks just not nearly as bad. I wish the Sims would get competitor from a decent company, I miss playing it.
bananamunchkin94 If I remember right, the Sims 4 was rushed out very early because EA were cannibalising Maxis- the studio basically for all intents and purposes died a few months after the Sims 4 released. I think the amount of content in the sims 3 packs was pathetic compared to sims 2, but when it's up against sims 4 it looks like a damn masterpiece.
Its so disqusting that i get annoyed when i see someone even showcasing anything for this game, mods included
bananamunchkin94 I blame The Sims for DLC. You bought the original "game" and then spent an extra $20 a time for each expansion pack of "stuff"... it's all The Sims fault
I've stop buying The Sims since 2013. The Sims 3 just seemed to have way too much packs, I just don't like how EA wants to release so many packs! I'm glad I didn't bother with the series but I'm sad it have gotten so milked in packs.
As far as I know, that $8 DLC ending for Asura's Wrath was meant to be an entire sequel of some sorts but when they canned it the ending was released as a way to get that out there.
I should say that it's still kinda shitty that they'd cancel the sequel if they were willing to try and still make some money off of it but I mean I don't know why it got canned.
This is going in my Top 10 Jimquisition list
Sterdust DLC for Street Fighter when?
The things I would do with a Sterdust Amibo.... mmmmm yes the the delicious, sticky, syrupy things I would do.
And the Corn Flakes Homonculus for Mortal Kombat.
lnsflare1 Jim Sterling himself as DLC for Senran Kagura series?
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MICROSOFT POINTS!!!!!
(Ha, remember when those were a thing.)
Alexander Johnson
As long as Duke Amiel du H'ardcore gets added to Dynasty Warriors.
Konami's MGS5 base insurance sure was a hoot!
i'm not sure what compelled you to open your video the way you did, but i'm so glad you did, that was some of the funniest shit i've seen in a while.
So I don't normally get into gaming channels too deep, despite gaming. But I love your videos. It's not even the game content specifically, it really shows just how much time and thought is put into your script. The writing is excellent and there was one of your videos where you were talking about one of the Dark Souls levels and you belted out a long line of alliteration and it just really shows how much time and effort you put into your script. The passion clear as well! Your videos are entertaining and very well written! Thank you God for Jim Sterling!
Unfortunately you wont be getting any more content from him due to his fairly recent passing, but you should absolutely check out the work of Total Biscuit.
He was always a big advocate for consumer rights, and was also well in touch with the trends within the gaming industry.
Release dates arent what they used to be. I no longer find it worth buying 99% of games at release. At this point its easier to assume the game isnt complete and to just wait for the inevitable complete version.
Saniss48 that and things are just the same as something else that I've already played.
Release date is 1 year after launch for me. That is usually when a polished complete edition of those games arrive, including patches, bug fixes and even DLCs
Not only that, there will probably be an Ultimate Edition with all the DLC anyway for just as much money, if not less if you wait on that too.
Wade Spencer That is literally what he said
I thought he was talking about patches and free DLC to fix things, which is slightly different if we go that route.
That intro is....meme worthy.
Don't say that. Reddit will come and overuse it in a week or less.
God bless Jim Sterling, this is one of my favorite videos of the year.
remember the days when u had 2 earn alt outfits those where the days
I'm surprised you don't seem to have an EA Intro for EA based news like with Konami and Ubisoft.
I'm sure one's coming. EA will keep pushing the envelope until it does.
This is the part where we brainstorm ideas for a catchy name. Fuck Konami News, Oh Ubisoft, what would fit well for EA?
‘Sense of pride and achievement’
Could work quite well.
Said like triple aaaaaaaaaaa
I think it just goes without saying. Even when he has something good to say about EA, he'll preface the sentence with "I can't believe I have to say this about EA..."
They don't deserve one.
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Cheat DLC pretty much destroys the appeal of cheats in the first place as far as I'm concerned. Going to a friends house and saying "hey, check this out" before having a giggle over the fact everybody's head is 3 times larger than their body is funny when it's a quirky little secret you've found the code for...Having it on a store page for £2.99 basically nullifies that. When it's in the game by default then it exists solely for the heck of it, when it's got a price tag attached then it just feels like a cynical cash grab (because it is).
I don't remember the thing for Dragons Dogma with the pop-up ads, being somebody who played it at launch. It's definitely something that has been removed in later versions of the game (having played it again recently, I feel I would have noticed), but what's the context of this? Is it something that was really intrusive and my love for the game simply blanks out that bullshit?
Oh, and the Sims has always been bullshit, that's not a trend starting with Sims 4. DLC packs like 'pets' should have been in the base game by default from the Sims 2 onward, yet there's 4 Sims games and each one has a 'pets' DLC. Each new core Sims game feels like a regression of the previous instalment as you slowly wait for the exact same DLC's as the last game to be released again.
*Tao* - The Sims 4 scares me to how many packs they have plus the packs that have yet to release! It is sad that they can't include more things from expansion packs in the base game instead.
In Dragon's Dogma there was a series of quests that were located in the Basement of the Pawn's Guild. If you didn't have the DLC for those quests the game would open a pop-up advertising the dlc
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Yup, they've done that with every iteration of The Sims, not just 4.
And if you have the PC version you could just enable console, or edit the game files.
That Scat Man intro made a long day much better, thank you!
I love the way your shows intro evolves over time.
I think he just uses it for Jimpressions, now
Do i need a season pass to watch this video?
Nah, you just need the Online Pass. You DID get your Online Pass right?
This is Early Access: Episode 1.
Good thing i dont have to open lootboxes to optain this Online Pass to watch the video.... LOL fuck shitty publishers
Jokes aside, you don't need to make any payments to view Jim's videos. If you feel compelled to throw money his way, either pledge to his Patreon or buy some merch.
CZcams Red subscribers only.
The turn remastered dlc has to be one of the grossest gaming terms ever
that Scat Man bit was excellent
best intro i saw in a long time ! simple but a master piece.
Also, make a top 10 best DLC to teach developers what it looks like done right. Anyone remember Crackdowns Keys To The City dlc, or early halo DLC which saw extra, well designed multiplayer maps?
Until they cocked it up by not letting you participate in like 80% of matchmaking unless you had the maps.
nevermind forget what I said.
Best DLC is NO DLC. Just give me the fking complete game.
best DLC is no DLC, Extra content in a Complete Expansion pack full of wonder is best extended game play...
See Call of Duty: United Offensive or F.E.A.R. Extraction Point, for more details on how expansion packs done right..
or even better Witch 3 Wild Hunt Expansion that got game of the year and it wasn't even a full game....
Red Dead Redemption's Undead Nightmare expansion is still to this day one of the most perfect pieces of game software I've ever had the pleasure of playing. For only $15 you got what was essentially an entire second story mode in a totally transformed version of the full world map, complete with new weapons, enemies, mounts, etc... It was a rare case where DLC really felt like the time since launch had been used effectively to create additional content. Versus now where stuff is chopped off day one...
In fact, it was such an extensive expansion that it later went on to be sold separately as a stand-alone $20 game, so that gamers who might not be interested in Red Dead Redemption itself could play the zombie version of the world for a single discounted price. Either way, it was worth every penny and more.
Far cry 3 dlc was the shit
Assassin's Creed 2 DLC
AC2 is a great game but Ubisoft literally removed important parts of the story to lock it behind paid DLC.
Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin I was in disbelief when that happened
Ooooh I remember that one. Two chapters missing late game. Both seperately sold for 7,50 a piece. It was so obvious that Ubiwank only removed them to effectly raise the price of their full game with 15 bucks
In a slightly similar vein, Deus Ex: Human Revolution's Missing Link DLC.
Wait what? I only played the game later after release. Is that why there is such a big gap in time late game?
Desmond Brown yup
The Launch day DLC needs a minor subdivision. How about the unannounced launch day DLC? I attribute that to EA and their EAing of Mass Effect 3. I really felt burned by that when I preordered the game thinking I was getting the whole game. No announcement to the contrary. So imagine my shock and horror when I go to pick up the game at the store expecting to pick the whole paid-off game, and then get asked for 10 more dollars just to get the *full* single-player story because a major component of that actual story is cut out unless you pay the ten extra dollars for it. And this was all before the whole ending controversy about the game. That was the pits. They weren’t asking for a day one expansion that might have extra story content outside of the main story, but a cut out part OF the main story.
And they did it in such an underhanded way of not even telling their buyers about it until they go to pick up the game. I could imagine all the people who went to the store that day with absolutely no extra cash at the time, only to get told that *sorry* you have to go home with a purposely incomplete story. I wanted to punch someone at EA for that one.
Flipping dang it Jim. Now if I want a suggestion for something I might actually like any time this year I'm going to have to tell youtube I'm not interested in 50+ top ten lists.
Member when DLC's were actually something that expanded your game, not gave you the "real ending" or unlocked cosmetics in disc? I member
I 'member it well.
you mean xpansion packs we used to have? the stuff Witcher 3 released as well? there haven't been good DLC's since DLC's arrived.
My earliest memory of DLC is Bethesda's horse armor, which was overpriced shit.
Back in the day, "expansion packs" were something that expanded the game, but that was why we called them "expansion packs."
I remember when DLCs actually where bonus content and not just "Pay extra for the full game"
yeah and it still does,just not in every game
I would add the Diablo 3 Necromancer somewhere to this list. A single character almost as expensive as the entire game by now should be worth mentioning. On top of that the game prominently displays the DLC in its main menu and when you want to look through your collection of pets and stuff.
riemaennchen There are better targets in Blizzard portfolio. D3 is one of the least monetized games they offer.
riemaennchen The only thing that's cool about the Nechromancer is that it's fun to play.
are we all forgetting Warcraft 3 (that I remember) was the very frist game to piss us off with DLC? there were like 3 chapter that were only accesible via paying....but the things is the very first chapter was free on the game, so to follow up the story you HAD to pay
Honestly, no I wouldn’t count it. Compared to what is represented, it’s not offensive enough to hang here.
Not that I don’t see your point, it actually better than a vast majority of DLC listed here as D3 can be considered a finished game. Plus they had been adding new content for free.
Not to mention since it's release the Necro has been disgustingly overpowered compared to all other classes so it comes off as pay to win as well.
Thank you for the quality content Jim. I always find your videos soothing and logical, in an otherwise batshit insane world.
I agree with most of that, but I have small disagreements with 2 items:
1) Ending DLC - I didn't mind the Trespasser DLC in Dragon Age Inquisition as much since the way that went ended the game with your character. If that had been a part of the main game then everyone who finished it would've had to start new characters just to play all the new DLC or leave their characters just before the 'point of no return'. The main thing I minded was how much they charged.
2) Launch Day / Day One DLC - Since games are often handed over the publisher ~1 month before release day, devs sometimes have the opportunity to spend that time working on the DLC. If they are able to get something done and ready for release along side the game that was going to be DLC anyway I don't mind. Unless its when they lock out substantial parts of the game, e.g. 'From Ashes' for Mass Effect 3.
I hate the idea of a "True Ending" DLC but I actually think that Asura's wrath should get somewhat of a pass on this. For starters the game didn't sell well when it was first released (Even though I think it was damn entertaining) so as a result the sequel game was scrapped. However because the studio still had some money and assets left, they decided to gather what they had from the canceled sequel and compress it down to a DLC sized expansion to the story. THE PROBLEM came from capcom's god awful marketing for the DLC. Calling it the "True Ending" like we hadn't gotten the real one, pissing people off to no end. It's also kind of a shame because, all stupid DLC and marketing aside, the DLC is actually really good. And frankly, I'd prefer getting what we got over nothing at all. It really is a shame though all things considered.
Silverstriker525 Didn't know this. If only Capcom had explained this they wouldn't have faced backlash for it.
Agreed, Asura's Wrath was a somewhat special circumstance. Still shit that it happened at all but at least there was an understandable reasoning behind it.
I'm about to say this but figured that someone might mention it already better than i do... Well yep capcom already have a shitty reputation with DLC so it's understandable if people start jumping the guns when they heard the name Capcom. Jim needs to see this tho
Abraham M.
That's implying AAA companies would ever trust their audience enough to **gasp** READ their reasons for decisions. Heaven forbid developers to think we can understand anything more than the title and price of things beyond maybe a short description! Think of the "illiterate man-children" that is their only audience! [/sarcasm]
We can take a look at what happened with JCPenney's in the clothing industry when they decided to treat their customers like rational intelligent beings. I'll give you a hint. They lost tons of money and customers.
Most of this DLC rubbish can be avoided by buying the cheaper "Complete Edition" a year after launch.
exactly. while the publishers are greedy assholes, its the mindless idiots who buy games at launch and swallow all of this nonsense who are ultimately to blame. The upside is that as long as you have a little patience, you'll be fine. Wait to see if the game is actually any good, then wait for the complete GOTY edition, and you're good to go.
@@BLZ231 agreed
Top Ten Lists are one of the top ten things about the internet! Good Job!
I remember the Asura's Wrath DLC fiasco. Maybe it might not have been so bad if they made it look like the DLC story was an additional or side-story, but the way the game ended pretty much set it up as a 'to be continued' ending, that everyone suddenly realised they had intentionally held back the end of the game from people.
Didn't help them much either, that included in the DLC were 2 stories that took place between earlier chapters, but they were both just cutscenes...
That's not what the dlc is at all. There wasn't supposed to be a dlc, there was supposed to be a sequel. Asura's Wrath didn't sell well so Capcom killed the sequel and the dev team decided to make the dlc to give the cliffhanger closure.
@@shagohad3 Yeah, no. They already had the DLC roadmap planned out within weeks of the games release, calling it the 'true conclusion' to the games story. Even in the months ahead of the games launch, they were already promising us a bunch of DLC, pretty much showcasing that they had set up the 'epilogue' as a separate purchase.
If it didn't sell so well, it's funny how they would have all this content ready for release within 2 months of the games launch (3 if you include the bonus chapters involving Ryu and Akuma)
Seem's an extremely small window of time to decide the game is a failure, and have a sequels content ready to be added in as DLC to the original game...
It's far more realistic that they had this planned from the start, especially as this was at a time when capcom were going hard on the DLC front, given the controversy around Street Fighter vs Tekken DLC characters, and that was released around the same time as this...
What a beautiful song for a lovely boy
Member when there were no dlcs at all, just complete games with tons of unlockables?
I member.
Member when dlc characters used to be hidden unlockables with secret conditions to unlock them?
Yeah well,that's just, like, your opinion, man : I remember, I just never bothered because it felt like a worthless grind fest. Different strokes. Peace ✌
I remember when you bought expansion packs on discs and got a lot less content for a significant percent of the original game's price.
My favorite example is RE4:
Beating story mode on Normal unlocks:
-Mercenaries (a new battle arena game mode)
-A costume set for Leon and Ashley.
-Separate Ways (THE BEST unlockable ever, pretty much a second scenario from Ada's perspective, that is *half as long as the main game*
Beating the game on Professional mode unlocks:
-A second costume set for Ashley and Leon.
-An amazing weapon, the Tommy gun.
-Another weapon, an op smg called Matilda.
-A cool weird alien lazer gun with a weird name idr.
Beating Separate Ways unlocks:
-Assingment Ada (a single timed mission featuring Ada and Krauser) And yes *even the unlockables have unlockables*
Beating Assingment Ada unlocks:
-The Tommy gon for use in Ada's campaign.
Getting and S rank in the main game unlocks:
-Unlimited RPG
Mercenaries:
-Up to 4 unlockable arenas, featuring different challenges and minibosses
-Up to 5 different unlockable characters, with different loadouts and awesome abilities (Hunk's neckbreaking rampage anyone?)
-Getting a 3 star rank with every character on every map unlocks the Handcannon, the most op weapon in the game.
Some of the requirements for these might be off, haven't played the game in ages, but the actual unlockables are here.
Also, this is comming from Capcom, the same greedy asses behind endings in the dlcs and halfassed, overpriced remasters.
Its quite sad tbh.
If RE4 was released today, you can bet your ass Separate Ways would be a 15-20 dollars dlc.
I do not trust remakes anymore as they will take the laziest path possible
Jim, you get a like just for that wonderful intro. Great video, btw.
This intro.. Is a classic at this point.
Gotta love Jim's Triple A sneer. Beautiful!
I always preface Triple A with (Insert Jim sneer here) these days.
I paid for cheats once £7 covered every game I had oh game genie
Really enjoyed this video!
I like the fact that you used the same font as Microsoft for every section!
That's a nice touch
Honorable mention goes to DLC for a minigame within the game, as well as the DLC that can't be used when it comes out. Let's give a hand for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2!
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 was released on October 25th 2016 and started out as a fighting game. In late november last year, more than a year after the release of the game, the Hero Colosseum update came out. This was a strategic board game with figurines that has nothing to do with the mechanics of the main game, which is punching people in the face. Now, the issue is that the figurines can only be obtained via random packs you can buy with the game's secondary currency, TP Medals. This secondary currency was already in the game and was given out rather generously, allowing you to buy new outfits and attacks instead of using the game's main currency, Zeni. Alongside this free update we saw the release of, you guessed it, the option to buy TP Medals with real-life currency, allowing you to either unlock figurines or buy new outfits or attacks, quite a few of which can give you quite the advantage early on.
As for the second one, TP Medals can also be spent in a particular store where items can only be bought with TP Medals. One of the DLCs involving the character of Bojack (the ginger pirate, not the horseman) requires you to buy outfits from the TP Medal store so that you can train with the guy. However, aside from said outfits being horribly expensive the TP Medal store is only available on Friday to Sunday. And when did this DLC hit? On a... tuesday. So if you bought this DLC you had to wait half a week to be able to play it, and if you don't have a lot of TP Medals you had to grind quite a lot to get enough of them to finish the DLC before the store closes again and you have to wait another week. And since this was before you had the option to buy TP Medals you were just shit out of luck instead of getting urged to cough up the dough. Now, to be fair the outfits were added the week before and were available to buy in the TP Medal store in the weekend before the DLC hit, but not only was there no indication of you needing these outfits, the characters that wear these outfits are not exactly the most popular ones. For those of you not well-versed in the ways of Dragon Ball, Bojack and his crew are from one of the movies, which is neither canon nor the best movie of the bunch, and the character in there are not popular enough to have people go "Holy shit is that Bujin's turban? I gotta have me some of that!" aside from completionists.
So good on ya, Xenoverse 2 and your weird DLC shenanigans.
Beriorn Oh, but the Bojack DLC fuckwittery wasn't done quite there. As mentioned, you needed to buy certain outfits to access it, which itself is weird and unusual. But on top of that, the game lied to you. If you tried talking to Bojack, it would say that you needed a single outfit to proceed. This was not the case, you needed to complete all the outfits for his crew and himself to proceed. As far as I'm aware, months after the DLC was released, this has not been fixed.
Oh right, that tomfoolery. So that means that instead of needing X number of TP Medals you needed... what, three or four times that amount?
Beriorn Something like that.
Now that I think about it, the game also sold a season pass that did not include all the DLC.
Wait, you can only access the TP Medal store on Friday to Sunday?
I am 100% certain that I've been able to access that store any day of the week. Although I've noticed that some items sometimes aren't available (I guess those must be the Friday to Sunday items).
DanVzare that is the case currently. At that time it was not.
Man, I miss complaining about DLC. I remember when Final Fantasy 13-2 came out and did basically everything on this list, and it got called out for it. I guess publishers got smart and just changed the game to lootboxes/MTs in the current year. I miss 2012...
I miss 2002. Games were just games back then.
*Ivan Karamazov* - I grew up with games around that time, but lately I have been buying some games that were released around that time that I have never got the chance to play before and I just miss how you can get the game as a whole, no worries about DLC or some manipulation to give more money.
Hot damn I love you, Jim. That bit at the end: Priceless.
I love watching Jim, so entertaining, so spicy.
RIP Scatman John.
You know for the first few seconds I thought we were seeing footage to one of Sterdusts last matches before realising it was from Batman....
I just love the writing and humor in this. Every criticism on point. :D
That intro got me good, Thank you for that