Hans Zimmer's use of computers and samples in orchestral music
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2021
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A sneak peek from Hans Zimmer's 'Inside The Track' in which he explains his use of computers, samples, and the importance of managing your orchestra.
We are truly humbled to welcome score composer Hans Zimmer as part of the MWTM program. He's known for composing the soundtracks of some of the world's greatest movies from The Lion king, Gladiator, Inception, Interstellar, to The Dark knight trilogy. Discover now his first 1-hour video and enter the world of the Oscar and Grammy winner Hans Zimmer as he reveals his approach to composing music and shows you how he breathes life into the art of film scoring. - Hudba
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/hz-various-orchestra
“The computer is an instrument and you should practice it like an instrument”
Why haven’t I realized this before
It is bullshit!
Honestly, I cannot stress how badly I needed to hear those words coming from someone other than myself. I didn't realize how badly until Hans said it. I'm having a moment rn.
@George Overworth Some people here are not getting the point.
@@johanneskepler873 Same brother…same
@George Overworth an instrument is also a tool, you tool
I was so against sampling and sample libraries when I started playing and performing music in the early 2000s, but the more I got into electronic music, I realized that sampling and using samples is an integral part of so much popular music and movie scores - it doesn't matter how the song is created or what tools you use, the only thing that matters is the outcome of the music.
@James Ryan Ceballos Sketching - Mostly only if you are a top professional, or in academia for a time. Otherwise it's just typically an alternative to synths. That's the reality 99.99% of the time. there aren't tens of thousands of folk with serious access to orchestras!
I use vsts to compose theatrical music. I love the atmospheric sounds. I like composing cinematic sound tracks.
I agree too. I use everything that I can to compose music. The finished sound track is what matters to me.
Well... if you are after the orchestral sound and expressiveness, the live orchestra will always be way superior to samples. Samples behave very differently to that organic self-balancing body of the orchestra. Orchestra is not pushing volumes faders and using EQ, it's about very different set of skills and people should realize using samples and working with a real orchestra are two different things.
@@consonaadversapars That's a vital point..
I remember when I sampled the snare drum from Billie Jean on my 1990 Roland W30 and was in ecstasy just playing it on middle C over and over and over.....
Ha ha. Sounds familiar. I remember sampling Ian Paice's snare from Machine Head on my new Akai S900 and feeling very pleased with myself...
I Remember sampling some prince linn Snare back into my Akai S3000 and pressing the key over n over too!
Orchestra's are the soul of modern films. I can't imagine a world without orchestras!
Shame all those "assistants" making the modern scores are not Williams/Goldsmith/Horner/Herrmann/Rozsa level *composers* so we could get some actually awesome orchestral writing.
I love this perspective of the computer is an instrument, that deserves just as much or more practice and attention as any other instrument you wish to play. I am a music producer and this mindset will help me.
Jumping from acoustic guitar to a daw was such a dramatic shift for me, timing and randomness as a main problems were obvious from the start.
It almost is like you need do some graphical editing CAD like thing for preparation before creativity, but that same creativity kicks in and what you made is almost a final thing and it is going thru clicking the computer keyboard and moving hand from the wrist using one finger.
The entire range of movement is summed to that, so you almost need to prepare the randomness and mistakes so that it fits into that paradigm of analitics and repetition of dragging mouse around.. wierd stuff, after 5000 hours in fl studio i still doubt i can recreate organical sound of samplers and old analog synths, depth and spectrum thru just a computer and the interface.
Exsample
I pick guitar form the corner of my room, sit, start playing.
I turn on pc.. ______________( write your workflow here )
P.s. guitar on your knee is already beeing modulated thru stomping and stuff, no such thing on a computer...pure analitic, and creativity comes from being consciouss which is opposite of computing with frontal lobe.
Some kind of a workflow is a must.
My two cents as my battle with daw continues..
Cheers
I've seen him live twice and sonically it was the best experience of my life
His success is no accident. Respect.
Yesss thanks to Hans we have those DARK and RAW low rumbling synths in movie scores like Inception and the Dark Knight.
Both of these scores are the best I’ve ever heard.
Yes reeses in movies! Funny combination
Aaah finally an episode with Hans Zimmer!
VSL was born thanks to Hans (1999). Spitfire was born thanks to Hans (2005 bespoke). etc. :) Hans is kind! We all live and work thanks to Hans.. Thank you master!
The foresight and creativity to use this tool is so refreshing. Hans Zimmer is a genius
That's the sound of a man who love what he does. Picasso and the brush.
I could listen for hours on this legend.
great content
Good to see you here, K-391, I love your music. End Of Time collab with Alan Walker and Ahrix was incredible 🙌🏻
Wowww k glad to see you here.
When i see the poster of k 391 i suddenly click on it
Yo yo
fancy seeing you here
Hans is truly a visionary for bulldozing through the purists who were refusing to reinvent.
It is not just the samples but also his use of virtual synths that freed up time and resources, reduced the turn around time to experiment with more musical variations without having to rent the entire orchestra.
True!! The greatest to ever do it in my opinion. Not only did he create a ton of iconic & mind-bending scores, but also he changed the industry in the process.
"Freed up time and resources"
What a technocratic view of music.
@George Overworth Wrong answer
Hans is a visionary mass-murderer of musical creativity and invention.
Hans is so humble, such a genius
He has one of the biggest egos lol
He`s just the best Producer in the World.
It's always a pleasure to listen too Hans in conversation!! Thank you for sharing 😊
This is very true. Talent also exist in engineers, technicians, sound recordists, and so on. You don't really know why, but it's there. Spitfire stuff is more... human sounding. I don't know how they do it or anything... or whoever did the church piano sounds in Logic like the Boesendorfer grandpiano that comes with a multitimbral stack of pads and a choir (you can play them or not and harmonize between the 4 tracks)... this particular piano is just... I don't know, I find it magical, and I have a real grand at home...! You can't explain it. Also you have to write for yourself when you are a singer-songwriter or perform your music yourself. Beautiful wisdom from the master.
What a legend! Hans Zimmer is a MUSIC GOD in my mind! Very interesting to listen to his lessons. The major difference in how I make music is that I play stuff only one time and never again. Hans is a lot more meticulously in composing exactly what he has in mind. I unfold the path of music in my head as I’m going, never gets boring that way 😁👍
And this is why my main instrument is a sampler. It’s sooooo diverse and unique. I love it.
I just installed Fruity loops and right after this comes as a notification 😍
It is my argument as well: the better your conditions are, better or more are your pieces, and higher is the chance of supporting orchestras the RIGHT and OLD way: with good and new compositions.
This was the most genius speech about VSTs I've ever heard. I had really thought Hans was against it
A real master. My utmost respect goes out to this man.
Hans seems like the coolest guy
He is not. He treats his staff (underlying composers) poorly and exhibits some strange online behaviour.
@@brendandowse Bullshit lol. Don’t believe everything you see online for fucks sake.. and yes I know exactly what you’re talking about, Hans was right
@@TheRockinBK Thank you! I've seen everything he's talking about & I fully agree with you. Some people just want to create false narratives to bring successful people down, never works.
@@brendandowse BS! I have met Hans and he is a very charming, interested and empathetic person. I was recording in his studio in London and got very sick. In the rec room on the couch feeling awful he constantly came out of his room (whilst composing Rain Man) and took the time to make me tea and enquire as to my well-being. He’s a business man who has high expectations with deadlines and pressures, could be that in certain moments he cracks the whip. Totally understandable in some situations.
@@bilalkahhaleh3403 While there are people who refuse to believe victims of bullying behaviour because it doesn't suit their hero narrative, it will continue.
I love his attitude towards sampling and computers. Thanks for sharing this 💙
I would choose being his apprentice over winning the lottery
Win the lottery, then pay him to be his assistant.
@@AceDeclan for real. Stan is tripping
@@AceDeclan you are gifted with wisdom ?
Hell yeah!!!!
If stan is tripping Daltira is tipping 🤯😝
Woke up this morning not knowing that I needed this. Thank you
i fell in love with this guy, ahahah
such a wise, simple and useful thoughts on lots of big questions
he is not a regular composer
"protect the orchestras" -Hans Zimmer
still an icon
Always
Your voice has very rich bass ❤️❤️❤️
Fabulous cardigan!
Super nice video and awesome vision by Hans
I love hearing what he says. Very nice 👍🏻
Wonderful insights! Love that idea of composing not only for the sounds of the instruments but also of the individual performers.
Day One - Such a beautiful piece of music. Interesting interview.
Thank you so much for this
Best video-call background yet.
It's so amazing the MWTM can bring content like this for free on CZcams ❤️
Fantastic!!! So many truths in this... Thank you Mr Zimmer!
Damn, this is really great. He's a genius.
Hans zimmer, you do very amazing works. I wish to learn from you face to face at least in 3 hours. I wish to get your healing skills
This is awesome.
Every year he is giving symposia here in Belgium, but before you can sign in, the places are already taken. I want to see Mr Zimmer and hear what he has to say, about almost anything. So thanks for sharing this video. It's a good starter for me.
this man is a genius🙌
I love this guy.
Amazing knowledge from a master of music,
@George Overworth And? Who cares about musical knowledge? Music theory is for maths geeks who aren't creative enough to make music from the heart.
Brilliant!
I like this video. I also use what ever I can to compose music.
You gotta love hin as brand
i really liked his masterclass! he got right into it without any bullshit
Great One !
Thank you❤
EPIC ANSWER!
Hans is the mans
Ich finde es fantastisch das Hans Zimmer keine große Differenzen zwischen echten und Computer Musikern macht. Ich respektiere Jeden der ein Instrument gelernt und jahrelang geübt hat um seine Leidenschaft zu leben. Als es noch keine Computer gab, habe ich nur davon träumen können ein Synthesizer oder ähnliches zu erwerben. Pioniere wie Kraftwerk, Jean Michel Jarre, Yello und viele mehr haben eigene Geräte gebaut um individuell zu sein. Dieser Kreativität ist heute durch den Computer keinerlei Grenzen mehr gesetzt und jeder kann seine Kunst in der Form darstellen wie es ihm möglich ist. Danke für diese offenen Worte 🎼🎹🍀
Awesome.
He sounded rather indifferent of Spitfire Audio samples but yet they sell his branded samples which are very expensive. A rather revealing interview when you read between the lines.
I think i felt it as well. Was weird 😬
Their strings are meh imo. They charge more just for the Air Studio sound. I like Labs and Albion but as a whole I prefer elsewhere.
they don't even sample the fucking portamento for their strings, they fucking emulate it HAH, imagine spending hundreds of dollars of a string then not even bothering to sample portamento like how most guitar vst's do it
@@snesmocha I agree with you.
So interesting
Hans kann mannstundenlang zuhören. Ich bin zwar nur ein Heimrecorder der Albion nutzt, das aber aufgrund seines Einflusses. Orchester machen die schönsten Sounds für mich, alles andere ist temporär interessant.
sehr gut, klar und sehr interessant :)
I want to produce fantastic sample-centric music but 100% in the box. I can't help but hear a blip on Hans Zimmer every 6 weeks for the past 10 years but I owe my formative disposition in songwriting to the figurative genre of the blacks. Blues, Jazz, Hip-Hop. A tough abraxas since I spent a summer in 1985 in my 17th year of life on Cape Cod with Juilliard trained Father and son... but the whole Multer family were delightfully well informed of classical music. Every producer in a YT video has a wall of heavy hardware behind them when interviewed...or a crazy amount of different synthesizers. Everything's in your DAW and together with the CZcams producer community I just have to keep pushing on. :-)
Hans is right I am a sample base producer...I started on MPC2000XL,
Now I used a MPC ONE sampler, I can make my MPC sound like a Big Band!
just wow.
He's so right!
Wow
don't ever forget that this man composed interstellar's soundtrack
Legend
Saw ur man of steel pfp came to say man of steel ost by zimmer is his best work
He is a legend! Computer, synth, sampler. All musical instruments. A lot of people argue that they are "artificial" and not natural, let alone instruments... Not that a stretched animal skin over a hollow wooden frame or a funny shaped glued together wooden box with holes and a long neck (strings stretched over it) are any more natural! We exploited all physics to make a sound, then discovered electricity. Why stop there? Use it! All instruments are wonderful and unique in their own way, and they have the right to exist, and all takes practice to master it. I wonder what romantic era composers would do with modern technology.
Everything becomes a sample the moment you record it.
@@ransbarger Indeed! Then you load that up in a sampler and it becomes an instrument and so on, the circle of life... :)
he seems like he likes to write songs in D
He has said that in his master class
His perfect to potrayed severus snape
“I would tell you It’s the computer.” What an absolute badass
Severus Snape vibes in voice
This guy would fucking love Slidecamp
Even his voice has bass!
💚
True. I was writing sketches for some big names in the early 90's using Steinberg Pro-16, and .....
wait for it..... a Commodore 64!
It could only play 1/16ths, but then so could I!!!
Nobody knew, nobody needed to know because it wasn't audible!
I could work miracles with that thing.
When I ended up with stacks of money I bought the latest Cubase version and didn't get on with it at all... Just not condusive to writing on the fly.
Now here I am in 2021, and frankly ANYTHING is possible, but fortunately the MOST IMPORTANT thing hasn't changed.
It doesn't matter how much gear you have, whether you are in Abbey Road or in a Airing-cupboard, but that top-line is all that matters.... Move me! ❤️🎹🇬🇧
🐐
Hans is literally describing Timbaland when he asks why don't people make sounds and music from anything(rubber band)
Totally
💙🎵
Fascinating, but
What if samples and the computer to make music becomes obsolete and we can have access to a live orchestra through some AI or VR or something?
Wouldn’t it be nice to know which scores Hans Zimmer used an eight bit sampler? on
Very off topic, but does anybody know what brand that cardigan is? Looks very comfy.
Hans looks like he’s sitting in the actual Matrix
love it
Ok now that my music mind is blown, I will never feel guilty about using a wav sample pack again 🙅🏾
Dude that's why I got into modular, I get sick of presets, knobs and switches are just more fun.
To my taste, I don't need super loud and nerve tickling noises, beast orchestra, etc to support every dramatic scene in a movie. It not about what you make the sound with: real orchestra, samples or jaw harp. Or a computer.
With much respect to HZ own work and his style, I'm not sure if "noise + orchestral" influencing positively music for movie. I miss melody in movies. It gets annoying to constantly turn down volume on "dramatic soundtrack part" and turning it up just for a brief moment actors are trying to say something :)
As great influencer, Hans Zimmer (I hope) can turn the page and set a new standard with MUSIC for films, not only impressive film scoring.
That’s why we have Thomas Newman ❤️
You're far too close minded
I get what you're saying but that's the mixer's fault. Usually studios mix movie sound for cinema and that doesn't translate at all when you're trying to watch a movie at home
@@omegalitico I agree with that. Even at home I may want choose 5.1 or home-friendly mode. It would be nice to have simple slider dialog/music. Whoever Netflix or Prime make it first, will be very popular with viewers :)
@@bw2937 I'm not sure if I expressed it right. I do like Hans Zimmer's soundtrack for The Holiday for ex., good movie and good matching sound/melodies/mood. Yes, it is romantic movie, action movie would not have the same mellow track. But it does not need to be super loud, any sound engineer (should) know how to make it perceived louder and not to overwhelm dialog in the mix. Plus, not everyone can do it as Hans Zimmer. Taking only exaggeration part of, missing music is no good. This is exact trend my grumble is about.
Wish I could go back in time to show this video in all those arguments I had with purists on forums and Reddit. Not gonna waste my time on samples just like I wouldn’t waste my time in the conservatory making instruments. It’s a different type of talent.
Claudio …. Didn’t catch the name … what was the name mentioned !
A tip for anyone wanting to get a good orchestral sound out of samples...You want to get samples that are absolutely bone dry as possible, and then add in a custom convolution reverb to each and every instrument. Some instruments will need more some less, it's all about listening to how it comes out, music is a hearing art so you twist the knob to be just enough to sound like it's in the space naturally.
Listen! If Hans says we have to sample more of our own sounds, so what do we do....?
We sample more of our own sounds!
@@artisans8521 euh... Just record any sound and make something out of it. Maybe not the sound quality of Hanzel his sounds but at least is sounds more authentic. Can be any sound. Does not have to be an instrument. One I sampled my piano for sound design. All kind of sound effect which used for an animation film. So think bigger or different than you used to. For a tv commercial I used cardboard boxes and plastic bags to build beats for the background track. So don't think in quality. Think in creativity!!!
@@artisans8521 your way of thinking is a lack mentality. Don't think of what the other has better than you. Instead try to be the best you can be. Combine a good sounding library with your own shitty sounds to complement it. So stop complaining and start creating
@@TheRockinBK Bingo! You just won a Dishwasher!! 😂
Sampling never gets old just because you can use ANY kind of sound to make music with. I like his view that it doesn't matter so much what your sound palette is but rather how you use it and write music with it. I used to be an instrument purist and was very anti-sample/anti-electronic music but after working with them for a number of years i realized it has such a broad array of sounds you can work with. Still not a fan of sampling an instruments(there are so many subtleties and nuances to playing them that are hard to recreate on a sampler) but rather creating unique sounds that instruments cannot make.
Hans knows. His entire house knows.
If only he put this much thought and effort into the formulation of a memorable melody.
Hans is such a talented and attractive man. I LOVE his accent.