Sorry for the late reply. I just noticed your comment. That's awesome to still have the old Ford. I have my grandfather's 1945 2N as well. Good luck on the repair!
It's not too traumatic. Just take your time and plan for what could go wrong. Like most projects if you have plan and several options you won't need them. 🤣
I have a '51 that one of the previous owners "welded" the support pin flange to the axle support assembly. I guess the bolt that holds it on must have had the head snapped off. The weld at some point broke because it was just dawbed and not actually welded. This allowed the pin to start moving and wearing. The radius arms have a really nice arch to them which they are not supposed to have. I got the pin out no problem as it was quite loose and much to my amazement the pin was worn badly but the bushing was not. I was expecting to have to take the center axle piece to the machine shop for some major work. fortunately I have the new pin and bushing for my '49 that did not require they be replaced.
Good to hear!! Sometimes these things can be a real bear. Sad to hear your arms got bent. I'm glad for you the welds were not good welds or that would be terrible.
It is 11:20pm and I was going to bed… my iPad lit up and posted a notice that your video is available on CZcams….you’re videos are all so good, I’m staying up to watch. 👍. Thank you for such great information and demo
Next time put the bushing and pin in the freezer over night. It will shrink them an make installation easier. I like your videos, they’re very informative. Thanks for posting.
I've yet to have that trick work. I don't even bother. I can see dry ice working, but don't feel like wasting time and money when I can just heat it up. The axle expanded way more then what that bushing would of shrank sitting in the freezer.
That sounded like it went about the way I was thinking it would go. Old rusty pins well rooted in their hole for decades, lol. Its those little things that make a good restoration and a solid tractor. I love my 8 N and cant wait to give it a solid resto.
@@Jason1Pa were doing good, I havent had the urge to post anything on yt. Ive been posting a little on IG. Its easier a couple pics, quick description and done.
I know. Already had the chisel out. I had it out faster then what it would take to get the welder out. Normally they about fall out our worn paper thin.
Well done on the video! I tend to talk to much during repair videos- as you will see in my video posting tomorrow 😂 I am still surprised that the pin isn't greasable. Great info!
I’ve got a Ford 3610 and I’m trying to remove that axle pin to replace the broken bushing. I had to take off the fan & radiator because of a broken fan blade pierced the radiator. How do I loosen the pin using a 1-5/8 socket wrench?
I have a 50 model 8n ford that needs that very job done. Where did you find the pin and bushing? Them smaller pins is slop on mine as well. Can you get the whole kit? Probably wouldn't hurt to get king pin bushings also for both sides. Do away with the death wobble.
There is no kit available so you need to purchase the individual parts. When I'm working on Fords I only get parts from Just8ns. com or Dennis Carpenter. All though every part needs to to be slop free for the wheels not to wobble the large majority of slop that causes the wheels to wobble is in the steering gear box itself.
Curious about the shim washers and spacer on this. My 860 doesn't have any of that and there's about an inch of axial play along the axle pin. The radius arms hold the axle longitudinally though and so I thought maybe that axial play is necessary for the radius arms to be able to swing one way or the other. (might pull the axle back or push it forward as they do.) Is there a set amount of axial play needed?
@delgriffith1 I don't have any hands on experience with the 860 front ends,but looking on the parts diagram it appears that I don't see any spacers listed which seems rather odd. On the 8N it does call for one spacer then a washer/spacer. I added more cause there was enough slop. I jacked up the front high and rocked the front end up and down and there was no binding. You do need some play for front to back movement, but it's not much. I try to keep the strain off of the radius arms where they insert into the socket near where you feet go.
@@Jason1Pa Makes sense that it wouldn't need a lot of play back and forth to accommodate radius arm swing. The full inch of slop concerns me on my 860. Tempting to put in spacers but at the same time that was the design it seems.
@delgriffith1 Yeah I wish I could offer more help or even look at another one but I don't know anyone that has one. It just doesn't seem right to have that movement.
You could. I've done it before, but just be careful not to tighten it much. You'll actually squeeze the ends of the arms and kind of cause a bind when going over uneven ground. It's ideal to use a pin though.
Great video. That's the next step in my 1952 8N Winter project. Dad bought the tractor in '53 and I grew up driving it on the farm and in the woods.
Sorry for the late reply. I just noticed your comment. That's awesome to still have the old Ford. I have my grandfather's 1945 2N as well. Good luck on the repair!
Thanks for the tips.. I dread the day when my 51 needs this attention.
It's not too traumatic. Just take your time and plan for what could go wrong. Like most projects if you have plan and several options you won't need them. 🤣
Boy that was a test(s) of perseverance! Thanks for sharing the journey.
Yeah especially the small pin. It was extremely difficult. Not only was it rusted bad,but discovered it had a very slight bend to it.
Hey Jason - great video! I enjoyed the camera angles and editing. You make it look easy. Thanks for the great tutorial.
🤣 Thanks man!!
Your videos are always knowledge packed and informative! Great video! 👍🏻
Thank you Sir 😊 Maybe someday soon I'll have a Allis video! 😮
I have a '51 that one of the previous owners "welded" the support pin flange to the axle support assembly. I guess the bolt that holds it on must have had the head snapped off. The weld at some point broke because it was just dawbed and not actually welded. This allowed the pin to start moving and wearing. The radius arms have a really nice arch to them which they are not supposed to have. I got the pin out no problem as it was quite loose and much to my amazement the pin was worn badly but the bushing was not. I was expecting to have to take the center axle piece to the machine shop for some major work. fortunately I have the new pin and bushing for my '49 that did not require they be replaced.
Good to hear!! Sometimes these things can be a real bear. Sad to hear your arms got bent. I'm glad for you the welds were not good welds or that would be terrible.
It is 11:20pm and I was going to bed… my iPad lit up and posted a notice that your video is available on CZcams….you’re videos are all so good, I’m staying up to watch. 👍. Thank you for such great information and demo
😆 That's funny!! I'm fighting sleep just to get this video edited and uploaded! Hope it was worth it!
@@Jason1Pa 101% worth it. Going to check mine out in the morning
Next time put the bushing and pin in the freezer over night.
It will shrink them an make installation easier.
I like your videos, they’re very informative.
Thanks for posting.
I've yet to have that trick work. I don't even bother. I can see dry ice working, but don't feel like wasting time and money when I can just heat it up. The axle expanded way more then what that bushing would of shrank sitting in the freezer.
Nicely done.
Thanks Scott!!
Excellent as always…..!
@@bugbomb8048 Thanks!
That sounded like it went about the way I was thinking it would go. Old rusty pins well rooted in their hole for decades, lol. Its those little things that make a good restoration and a solid tractor. I love my 8 N and cant wait to give it a solid resto.
Absolutely!! I hate sloppy!! 😆 So good to hear from you hope all is well!
@@Jason1Pa were doing good, I havent had the urge to post anything on yt. Ive been posting a little on IG. Its easier a couple pics, quick description and done.
@Gunters Garage That's for true. Sometimes YT videos will have me thinking what did I get myself into? 😆
Those pins, and the pins in the lift arm knuckles are usually buggers to get out. Nicely done ✔️ 👍
They sure are! They can give you a physical and mental workout!
Great video. People usually never properly maintain steering components ever .
They sure do get used and abused!
5:10 Notes to self: Never change this! 😂
🤣😂😅 Sometimes you have no choice. Just hope that you don't have a stubborn one.
You can shrink a bushing by running a weld bead inside it.
I know. Already had the chisel out. I had it out faster then what it would take to get the welder out. Normally they about fall out our worn paper thin.
Well done on the video! I tend to talk to much during repair videos- as you will see in my video posting tomorrow 😂 I am still surprised that the pin isn't greasable. Great info!
It's so hard not to talk too much. I can't wait for your video!
You Made That Look Easy!!! I'm Sure Henry Needs The Same Love When I Fix His Engine!!!
Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
Editing can make anything look easy!! 😆
Sure can't wait to see some Henry videos.
Great job....Very instructional allways did like your videos
Thanks Doyle!! I'm happy you like them!
Good to see you Jason.
It's good to be back! Thanks for checking this out!
W❤W! That’s Incredibly Awesome! Happy Weekend! Cheers!🥂❤️✨
Good video. I know all about those ten minutes jobs that takes hours. Murphy's law.
Tell us more Jason. The real deal never hurt anyone. Put up the camera even if you're digging a drainfield.
😆 🤣
I’ve got a Ford 3610 and I’m trying to remove that axle pin to replace the broken bushing. I had to take off the fan & radiator because of a broken fan blade pierced the radiator. How do I loosen the pin using a 1-5/8 socket wrench?
finishing up engine in my 8n my king pen just fell out i thank the front bucket played a part in it
😆 Most definitely. Them loaders make everything loose!
Excellent. Thanks for posting!
Thanks!!
Great video! I'm sure these are pretty wore, especially on tractors with loaders!
Without a doubt. Loaders kill.
I have a 50 model 8n ford that needs that very job done. Where did you find the pin and bushing?
Them smaller pins is slop on mine as well. Can you get the whole kit?
Probably wouldn't hurt to get king pin bushings also for both sides.
Do away with the death wobble.
There is no kit available so you need to purchase the individual parts. When I'm working on Fords I only get parts from Just8ns. com or Dennis Carpenter.
All though every part needs to to be slop free for the wheels not to wobble the large majority of slop that causes the wheels to wobble is in the steering gear box itself.
90 like,best wishes;-)
Curious about the shim washers and spacer on this. My 860 doesn't have any of that and there's about an inch of axial play along the axle pin. The radius arms hold the axle longitudinally though and so I thought maybe that axial play is necessary for the radius arms to be able to swing one way or the other. (might pull the axle back or push it forward as they do.) Is there a set amount of axial play needed?
@delgriffith1 I don't have any hands on experience with the 860 front ends,but looking on the parts diagram it appears that I don't see any spacers listed which seems rather odd. On the 8N it does call for one spacer then a washer/spacer. I added more cause there was enough slop. I jacked up the front high and rocked the front end up and down and there was no binding. You do need some play for front to back movement, but it's not much. I try to keep the strain off of the radius arms where they insert into the socket near where you feet go.
@@Jason1Pa Makes sense that it wouldn't need a lot of play back and forth to accommodate radius arm swing. The full inch of slop concerns me on my 860. Tempting to put in spacers but at the same time that was the design it seems.
@delgriffith1 Yeah I wish I could offer more help or even look at another one but I don't know anyone that has one. It just doesn't seem right to have that movement.
On your radius arm pins could you just use a 5/8 grade 8 bolt?
You could. I've done it before, but just be careful not to tighten it much. You'll actually squeeze the ends of the arms and kind of cause a bind when going over uneven ground. It's ideal to use a pin though.
That is what I thought but I wanted another opinion
Where did you get the bushings?
All the parts in my Ford videos come from Just8ns. com or Dennis Carpenter
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