I don’t think I can go back to a normal browser. Arc is rad and I love using it and I still don’t take advantage of everything it offers. Good job and keep it up :)
People need to chill. I wasn’t happy when the extensions moved, but that’s what you get when a company moves fast and tries new things. We should be applauding the willingness to try something and provide CONSTRUCTIVE criticism when things change for the worse
In general, if you want to avoid pissing people off when introducing UI changes, the best way is to add an option in settings to go back to the old layout. This not only makes the interface more personal via customization but lets you track what people use the most for when you eventually need to sunset the old feature. I know this will create some technical debt and you’re a startup where you move fast and break things, but just an idea to keep in mind.
I'm not planning on using Arc because it's Chromium based and proprietary, but tbh I think it would be best for all the users if you just made it so it asks you where you'd like the extensions to be placed when you open it for the first time and for you to be able to change it in the settings later if you make a mistake or something like that.
I think where the extensions are (right under the URL) is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. You guys are amazing. I am a lifelong iphone fan however lately ive been wanting to switch to android for a myriad of reasons but the primary one being how androids (pixel specifically) feel so much smarter. after having switched all of my devices (phone, desktop, laptop) to Arc I plan to stay 100% with apple. youve made my phone (and ecosystem really) feel brand new and I actually enjoy using the internet again.
Please don't consider reviews as the only parameter, they might be just enthusiasts who can't resist the change! think in terms of your core audience, other than reviews, this helps!
IDK if you guys read these comments. But please add some sort of divider between pinned websites, and pinned extensions. I think it would make it look cleaner and less clutered
I never use the expanded extentions in the sidebar, the pinned one is good, but i find it hassle to keep it pinned there all the time so i just use the menu bar on top, which again is a bit tedious in finding the extention quickly but atleast doesn’t confuse me. The top right edge bubble shape placement IMO was actually the best, felt like home, but it always messed up by accidentally clicking split screen button. Just removing the split screen option and leaving the expandable extentions on the top right edge would have been great.
I think the main reason why people are mad is the way that these changes break the current workflows. By all means, we are happy when you try new things, but if I use arc for work, I expect that if something breaks the way I use it, I have it as a setting. It happened with tab sync, then with extensions. I know that sometimes having options is hard to code, but I think it's worth it. You can also see the amount of people that like/dislike the new feature.
I like the new extensions but I have a suggestion, when you click them, since they are now on the left, their tiny windows should pop up on the left, not on the right (which they currently do)
Guys your browser is the best out there. keep it up. I'd even pay for it if it would have some premium features in the paid version and a guarantee to not use, track or monetize any of my data.
For me old one on the right looked great, and new way too clustered. Maybe the best option is to combine the two - with ability to pin extensions to address bar and lower as well as hover bar at the right
I would actually like to have the choice of putting the tabs on top sometimes. I've got a bunch of tabs and stuff open and do web development and constantly hitting cmd + S is annoying at this point lol
That's the point, you can never make everyone happy obviously, it's about making people satisfied enough to use your product, everyone hates the way chrome eats memory( maybe it changed recently not sure) but they still use it, even if it lacks a lot of features edge has, same goes for edge, a lot of people use it for its features even though most people would agree that chrome has a nicer UI( I think!). I think we can sum this up by saying that it's about increasing the mean of satisfaction of users and decreasing its variance.
0:01 - But no one is revolting against your startup, it is just that people don’t like the fact the you removed the three dots 0:11 - He never said you are brain dead he just said that this SPECIFIC change you made is stupid 0:13 - We are not mad because you make a browser but because you removed the three dots 0:24 - So then maybe just leave the choice of what people want to choose from all the placements you made? 0:33 - No one heard of arc a year ago but now it is super popular so not really an argument And so the life lesson is not « you can’t make everyone happy » but it is « give the users a choice »
I'm waiting to be notified I'm admitted to the Windows Beta and I PROMISE you, I won't complain about stupid shit like that. I am STOKED to start using this as I need it in my life and some are just spoiled brats.
So finally you learned the life lesson everyone needs to learn 😂: you cannot do it right so it fits for everyone. The only solution is: make it either best for most or for a niche of users or add an option to switch it if it is really necessary. Love your browser and love how you are so open about your decisions and struggles. ❤😊
I’ve noticed the changes to the extensions button. I can sympathize with the challenge, as a front-end web dev myself. I have 2 machines with Arc on it and I think maybe there’s some A/B testing going on, because even though both are the latest versions on Mac, there are slight differences in the UI, like where the extensions button is, whether I get a full bar across the top of the window (which isn’t too bad, I kind of like a few things along the top of the tab like the URL link and Split View settings) or whether the extensions button is in the URL bar. A/B testing is a great idea, if that’s what’s being done. Anyway, I love Arc…you know what they say about the haters. Keep up the fantastic work with this browser, I truly believe it is revolutionizing the internet. Oh and please add a small feature to right click a folder and add a note 😁❤️
Or you could put a choice it in the settings, so other people will complain that there are too many of them 🤣 Honestly I preferred top right, also because the little pop ups will appear at top right, but the new layout is fine (other than google translate extension deciding not to work)
I’ve never had a problem with any of the extension locations, and think the new location looks fine. I do miss the split view button being accessible on the right side though. I still can’t figure out how to create a horizontal split view without it.
I also am not a fan of things being different once I have a workflow in place and yall have to go and innovate.... but that is also what I love about the browser so yeah, whatever, I am just going to side with the me that likes change and keep on browsing with Y'all
totally hear you! we know that changing things up in a product you use every day can be disorienting - we'll be keeping that in mind more and more as we scale up (in tandem with always trying to push things forward and make things better)
I'm happy with the move. My only problem is that the extension icons are visually distracting when I'm trying to focus, especially with some of the colorful icons. Therefore, I think the user should only see the extension icons when hovering over it.
It's pathetic when you cry and complain about it as a company. But as a developer I understand your sentiment, but you're trying to sell a product here buddy. Cheer up! You can't please everyone, neither this comment, but what you can do it work on something that makes your product an identity.
I don’t think I can go back to a normal browser. Arc is rad and I love using it and I still don’t take advantage of everything it offers. Good job and keep it up :)
The way this guy is narrating is so funny to me. He sounds like he has had ENOUGH of it.
"Arc is a browser no one asked for, but needed as hell"
- Me
Doesn't even feel like a startup, as soon as the windows version comes it's an instant switch over no questions even asked
I really hope it comes out this month. They mentioned their soft goal was end of the year, but it's definitely not an easy hurdle.
@@RobotTechHeadthey hinted it’s coming next week
It's already in beta :)
Same, I check the site like every day.
@@mlathrom I already have access to it :D make sure you join the waitlist ASAP, there are a lot of people trying to get access
I don’t think I can go back to a normal browser. Arc is rad and I love using it and I still don’t take advantage of everything it offers. Good job and keep it up :)
People need to chill. I wasn’t happy when the extensions moved, but that’s what you get when a company moves fast and tries new things. We should be applauding the willingness to try something and provide CONSTRUCTIVE criticism when things change for the worse
In general, if you want to avoid pissing people off when introducing UI changes, the best way is to add an option in settings to go back to the old layout. This not only makes the interface more personal via customization but lets you track what people use the most for when you eventually need to sunset the old feature.
I know this will create some technical debt and you’re a startup where you move fast and break things, but just an idea to keep in mind.
Yeah, but there will be a switch eventually. The Browser Company just needs good UX designers to test and select the most viable and ergonomic option.
This is the BEST way to deal with negative feedback.
I'm not planning on using Arc because it's Chromium based and proprietary, but tbh I think it would be best for all the users if you just made it so it asks you where you'd like the extensions to be placed when you open it for the first time and for you to be able to change it in the settings later if you make a mistake or something like that.
Fuck em. I'm never switching back to another browser EVER. Arc for LIFE
Arc is not the replacement we wanted.
IT'S THE REPLACEMENT WE NEEDED. ❤
Your browser is now my main browser across my full apple lineup. Keep up the good work ❤
I think where the extensions are (right under the URL) is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. You guys are amazing. I am a lifelong iphone fan however lately ive been wanting to switch to android for a myriad of reasons but the primary one being how androids (pixel specifically) feel so much smarter. after having switched all of my devices (phone, desktop, laptop) to Arc I plan to stay 100% with apple. youve made my phone (and ecosystem really) feel brand new and I actually enjoy using the internet again.
We want Arc for windows and Android ASAP
Worked version coming next week!!!
Please don't consider reviews as the only parameter, they might be just enthusiasts who can't resist the change! think in terms of your core audience, other than reviews, this helps!
Love the life lesson hehe
I always think more options is more better, the one way to make almost everyone happy.
IDK if you guys read these comments. But please add some sort of divider between pinned websites, and pinned extensions. I think it would make it look cleaner and less clutered
This is gold bahahaha masterfully done, please do more of these!
I never use the expanded extentions in the sidebar, the pinned one is good, but i find it hassle to keep it pinned there all the time so i just use the menu bar on top, which again is a bit tedious in finding the extention quickly but atleast doesn’t confuse me. The top right edge bubble shape placement IMO was actually the best, felt like home, but it always messed up by accidentally clicking split screen button. Just removing the split screen option and leaving the expandable extentions on the top right edge would have been great.
I think the main reason why people are mad is the way that these changes break the current workflows. By all means, we are happy when you try new things, but if I use arc for work, I expect that if something breaks the way I use it, I have it as a setting. It happened with tab sync, then with extensions.
I know that sometimes having options is hard to code, but I think it's worth it. You can also see the amount of people that like/dislike the new feature.
I like new extension placement, thanks for all your great work on arc!
BTW, Velja is a browser picker not a browser.
It's perfect. Just let everything be as it is. This is as good as it gets
I like the new extensions but I have a suggestion, when you click them, since they are now on the left, their tiny windows should pop up on the left, not on the right (which they currently do)
Guys your browser is the best out there. keep it up. I'd even pay for it if it would have some premium features in the paid version and a guarantee to not use, track or monetize any of my data.
True, im still waiting for Windows version, i hope this 25 december i get it... haha
I love Arc so much 💕
It’s fun to complain. I do it all the time. But hey, it’s because I LOVE YOU GUYS. Keep doing what you do, fellas.
I honestly love it. ❤
I cannot wait to get this on Windows - please make it happen soon!
After Arc, even Chrome has been uninstalled.
I’ve never cared where the extensions are but I’m happy that you guys are consistently trying to improve it and trying new things
For me old one on the right looked great, and new way too clustered.
Maybe the best option is to combine the two - with ability to pin extensions to address bar and lower as well as hover bar at the right
I love Arc and I enjoy the many aspects of it. Thank you for making it for people like us!
I personally don't like tabs in a sidebar.
I just wish Arc could be the same for Windows and move all the search bar and extension to the left
I would actually like to have the choice of putting the tabs on top sometimes. I've got a bunch of tabs and stuff open and do web development and constantly hitting cmd + S is annoying at this point lol
That's the point, you can never make everyone happy obviously, it's about making people satisfied enough to use your product, everyone hates the way chrome eats memory( maybe it changed recently not sure) but they still use it, even if it lacks a lot of features edge has, same goes for edge, a lot of people use it for its features even though most people would agree that chrome has a nicer UI( I think!). I think we can sum this up by saying that it's about increasing the mean of satisfaction of users and decreasing its variance.
Solution: make options for different positions
Am I the only one picking up "Marcel the shell with shoes on" vibes here?
Honestly pinning extension below the url bar is the best update for sure 👍 , keep up the good work guys
I like all of them (design) ❤
Power extension user here… I favor the latest placement
Oh we're getting these on TikTok AND CZcams
🫡🫡🫡
Keep iterating, keep going 🙌🏾 History will be kind to your work
"you can never make everyone happy" okay so include all of these implementations and then let the user choose how to display them
Ez solution. Just give us options in settings.
Checkbox for url on leftside or right side
I very like this feature
The background music 🎶😂
0:01 - But no one is revolting against your startup, it is just that people don’t like the fact the you removed the three dots
0:11 - He never said you are brain dead he just said that this SPECIFIC change you made is stupid
0:13 - We are not mad because you make a browser but because you removed the three dots
0:24 - So then maybe just leave the choice of what people want to choose from all the placements you made?
0:33 - No one heard of arc a year ago but now it is super popular so not really an argument
And so the life lesson is not « you can’t make everyone happy » but it is « give the users a choice »
Okay the solution is to give the users the ability to choose where they'd want it to go. Same with the tab location.
Aren't toggles often a good solution? Make the default the one that makes the least people mad, then let me change it in settings?
extensions live on the left sidebar now. but extensions' popup is still opening up on the right. like make it make sense.
I'm waiting to be notified I'm admitted to the Windows Beta and I PROMISE you, I won't complain about stupid shit like that. I am STOKED to start using this as I need it in my life and some are just spoiled brats.
Your browser is revolutionary. I love it.
i never heard of this but it looks fire ima try it later
Velja is a way to open links with different browsers each time. Haha.
So finally you learned the life lesson everyone needs to learn 😂: you cannot do it right so it fits for everyone. The only solution is: make it either best for most or for a niche of users or add an option to switch it if it is really necessary.
Love your browser and love how you are so open about your decisions and struggles. ❤😊
Maybe you can choose where you want to put the extensions?
Love Arc, just a clean clean experience and yeah, extensions have been tricky…
Why not have like a toggleable option that puts it where you want of the two most popular options?
Honestly that is the best choice all around
I'm heartbroken there's no Windows 10 support
A very good impersonation of TechLead 😂
I like it, keep going and ignore the hate!
Radial extension menu when you hover over the left corner. Really nice, but might be buggy in the first versions
Give the option to choose instead.
Bring the windows version fast! :D I am already using the mac one :D
Put one extension in the URL bar, one below the URL bar, one on the top, one on the side and see which extension ppl use the most.
Still waiting for windows version 😃
Hey thats me
you're famous jace
I’ve noticed the changes to the extensions button. I can sympathize with the challenge, as a front-end web dev myself. I have 2 machines with Arc on it and I think maybe there’s some A/B testing going on, because even though both are the latest versions on Mac, there are slight differences in the UI, like where the extensions button is, whether I get a full bar across the top of the window (which isn’t too bad, I kind of like a few things along the top of the tab like the URL link and Split View settings) or whether the extensions button is in the URL bar. A/B testing is a great idea, if that’s what’s being done. Anyway, I love Arc…you know what they say about the haters. Keep up the fantastic work with this browser, I truly believe it is revolutionizing the internet.
Oh and please add a small feature to right click a folder and add a note 😁❤️
@@DanielPBullis this is not A/B testing. You just have the toolbar enabled on one of the machines. You can turn this off.
Velja. More like hell yeah.
Browse the Balcans, with Velja.
I love using Arc over any other browser. I wish it supported my macbook pro touchbar. Everytime I need it I switch to safari, but i wouldn't do that 😢
Hi i like arc on Windows but in the last update dissapear mini player i don t know what can i do for my problem
Or you could put a choice it in the settings, so other people will complain that there are too many of them 🤣
Honestly I preferred top right, also because the little pop ups will appear at top right, but the new layout is fine (other than google translate extension deciding not to work)
I cannot make everyone happy so maybe you shouldn't try in the first place ...
J’aimais bien les 3 petit points moi
Moi aussi
Love it on Mac, meh on Windows.
I’ve never had a problem with any of the extension locations, and think the new location looks fine.
I do miss the split view button being accessible on the right side though. I still can’t figure out how to create a horizontal split view without it.
( ctrl - shift - + ) is the fastest way especially with some practice
Unfortunately that only works with vertical splits.
He didn't say your brain dead.... He said it was a brain-dead move.
😂 just add a divider!
When is there Linux support?
I also am not a fan of things being different once I have a workflow in place and yall have to go and innovate.... but that is also what I love about the browser so yeah, whatever, I am just going to side with the me that likes change and keep on browsing with Y'all
totally hear you! we know that changing things up in a product you use every day can be disorienting - we'll be keeping that in mind more and more as we scale up (in tandem with always trying to push things forward and make things better)
LEAVE IT HOW IT IS
i will find you if you change it
Let me pin my favourite extensions the way I pin my favourite websites. Boom.
I'm happy with the move. My only problem is that the extension icons are visually distracting when I'm trying to focus, especially with some of the colorful icons. Therefore, I think the user should only see the extension icons when hovering over it.
Also, when you make changes, the feedback that comes in can always be used to tweak the change. The feedback is a good thing.
The moment I found Arc I moved away from Velja.
It's pathetic when you cry and complain about it as a company. But as a developer I understand your sentiment, but you're trying to sell a product here buddy. Cheer up! You can't please everyone, neither this comment, but what you can do it work on something that makes your product an identity.
😂
LMFAO
Lololol
Who uses Reddit in light mode 😒
M-me...
Je préférais vrm celui de base 😢 (3point) @thebrowsercampany
Moi aussi
You make me Happy all Day
And every Week with another Update
🫡 Thank you for been amazing
I don’t think I can go back to a normal browser. Arc is rad and I love using it and I still don’t take advantage of everything it offers. Good job and keep it up :)