First look at the Inibuilds Mitsubishi MU2 "Local Legend" in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Tonight we take a first look at the Mitsubishi MU2 - the latest "Local Legend" released for Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's available from the marketplace within the simulator, and was developed by Inibuilds. I really like it!
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As a line technician who deals with these sometimes, hearing you say "maybe its just quiet" made me laugh. These aircraft are with no doubt the loudest aircraft we see in terms of general Aviation.
HAHAH :) Cheers :)
Easily the loudest prop aircraft I've heard. I honestly can't think of one louder than the Mu2.
Worked with them at KSLC and it’s the only aircraft I actually WANTED to wear double hearing protection around.
@@stratochief99 It's brutal LOL
One Parked next to me in KDNL and I went back in the plane and shut the door till it shut down. Just as bad as a beechjet
This is one of the most ungodly LOUD aircraft that have ever existed on a GA ramp. Those Garrett's are deafening.
I had worked on the MU-2 back on 98' the Marquise and the cargo version. I was only 21.. Gosh I feel old 😅😅 Beautiful built aircrafts and missed working on them 😢
22:50 The MU-2 does not have ailerons because they needed full span flaps to bring landing speeds down. Instead, it has upper surface spoilers.
Another FS product I have purchased after watching one of your videos.
I love this little airplane. Easy to fly. Like you I did have very fast and sudden taxi speeds.
This aircraft seems to come with its own voice pack. However, it just seems to be the pilot’s voice. No ATC or AI aircraft heard.
You are by far my favourite FS CZcamsr. You don’t act an like over-excited 5-year-old like so many seem to do. You talk calmly, clearly and you are very informative.
Keep up the good work 👍
The MU-2 uses Garret TPE331 engines which are "fixed shaft", meaning that the prop is geared to the gas generator, unlike PT6 engines which are "free turbine". Garret does not recommend reducing the prop speed (condition lever) to less than 95%. Hence these engines are noisy because of the high prop tip mach number.
It's gorgeous Jon ! I bought straight away, my kind of aircraft :)
Really appreciate your dedication , you do such a superb job in all of your videos. Thank you
Looks like a fun little aircraft. Thanks for showing it.
It doesn't have ailerons. It has roll spoilers much like the B-52. You are correct it is too quiet, the TPE-331 engines are loud as hell but they do have a distinct sound to them that this model just doesn't capture very well. Also wish you would have picked another livery than the all white so we could see what the texturing is like on the exterior.
Another great one John!
Thanks for the intro. I am more of a piston kind of guy but for 10 bucks I think I will add this to the barn. Thanks again!
Nice looking from outside. I prefer the clean look of Black Square interiors compared to these weathered ones. Thanks for the quick review. Nice first time landing with this plane.
Excellent video! The ailerons on the MU-2 are called spoilerons. Incidentally, the Cessna Caravan has ailerons which are augmented by small spoilerons as well. I've spoken with pilots who have flown the MU-2 and they say you have to fly it like a jet since it's not very forgiving. Most of my experience is flying King Airs which is a very forgiving aircraft. The view from the cockpit in the MU-2 simulator is pretty accurate since your feet are only about 12 inches from the ground, the modeling is outstanding.
Just looking now. Sooo nice.
I want one.
Fantastic presentation of a fantastic airplane!!! Thanks!
It's released? Awesome! I was hoping FlySimWare would update theirs for msfs because I really liked it in p3d, then I saw Inibuilds preview this and I've been hanging out for it ever since. Buying as soon as I get home! These are powered by Garrets not P&Ws so you'd expect them to sound a bit different,, I'd have to watch some cockpit video to comment further than that.
great video Johnathan. Thank you. That plane in xplane really pulled to the right on take off…and landing…great to see no pull in msfs.
That may be because MSFS is inaccurate for this plane (so far)
Hello again Jon. Your professionalism and promptitude are second to none. I have just bought the MU-2 and I have ordered my Lenovo tablet (to control the glass screens); it will arrive next week. I thought I would share with you how I feel right now: Santa has landed!
Hah - new word - "promptitude" :)
I have just googled "promptitude" to be sure that what I told you was nonsense or not :)@@jonbeckett
No, the real one has a big howl on startup. We used to get one in every night he used to bring freight in. I really liked the sound and this one you have is not even close.
The local legends are always far too quiet.
Ah, the MU2. Here’s an aircraft I’ve got a significant amount of real flight time in. At first glance it looks good. I’ll watch the complete video later and check it out. Been a number of years since I was flying one, but I remember we it all very well…. Had the same panel as this has. 👍🙂
I hear it can be very tricky to fly if you're not used to it. I'm just wondering - with the spoiler arrangement for banking, I would assume that it would be impossible to aileron-roll this plane , no? The reason why I ask is that the msfs one rolls beautifully, as if it had ailerons. I guess that would be an inaccuracy...
@@normg2242 …. We’ll let me say this. MSFS is not real life. Any “plane” can be rolled in MSFS if memory serves. I haven’t played it in 20 years! Very few aircraft are approved for aerobatics in real world flying. And you’d have to be an idiot to try to roll this aircraft in real life.
This plane is a handful for sure. I flew one regularly for a while, we nicknamed it “The screaming Demon”. It’s an incredibly slick aircraft and can be a real handful to get slowed down. Especially when some incompetent air traffic controller is busy with his feet up drinking his coffee in a nice comfortable office, when he postpones your descent clearance till the last minute and you’re trying to get down through bad weather, knocked all over the place, single pilot IFR, and all this plane wants to do is pick up speed, because real world flying, unlike a sim or MSFS on a computer, you can’t just pull the power all the way back in real life. You’ll supercool the engines and cause damage etc.. So you’ve got to carry power.
That being said, a common route I flew it was Boston to St Louis, and on many occasion had to pass through squall lines as they’re very common coming from west to east on that route.
But all in all it’s a good fast aircraft. You just have to stay on your toes or it will get away from you. 👍
Already bought it. I do see I will need to remap my controls since what I use for reverse pitch shut the engines down.... not fun. But, it is fast, fun, and performed as hoped. It's not as loud from the front as it should be though, in person this thing screams even while idling along as it taxis. It's louder than anything else on the tarmac at a typical airfield.
Thanks. So apparently they only model the early MU-2/Solitare and not the (slightly slower) long fuselage/Marquise. Still a nice a/c and I always thought that the MU-2 was a "cool" airplane, with a very advanced design considering it's mid-'50s origin and 1963 first flight. Wow, that's a really old panel, sans the more angular "kinked" leather-trimmed glareshield seen on later models. The wear-and-tear really emphasizes how old this thing is! I learned on steam gauges and it's good practice to navigate sans GPS (especially IFR), but although you can view sectionals, approach plates, etc. on another screen, plotters and pencils are hard to use in that context!
I can't recall if you set t/o trim, but that may have had something to do with its reluctance to rotate. The MU-2 has a reputation as being dangerous, but that's more due to pilot error than any other cause. This is not as easy a plane to fly as the sim indicates and it will bite you if you're not careful. I'd never use bank angles like that IRL, especially in landing config. For example, a 60° bank (not passenger-friendly!) increases stall speed by about 40% (load factor) and that's one of the reasons so many stall/spins occur in the pattern. If you stay ahead of the airplane (always good practice), >30° should rarely be required. Bob Hoover may have performed some amazing aerobatics in a Shrike (similar to the Turbo Commander which is itself similar to the MU-2 in many ways), but this is more of a bizjet than a Pitts and needs to be flown that way. I know, it's a sim, but for me that means flying as you would in the real a/c (and of course, there are many other options including the Pitts for things like inverted flight), but hey, people try to land wide-body airliners at St. Barts and Courchevel (but let's see 'em try and take off), so who am I to judge?
I love the MU-2. Please be good...
Great review as always but I must admit as beautiful as it looks and yes the sounds seem quite quiet . The main thing I found just like you was the overspeed on taxiing regardless of pitch setting and it seems very reluctant to leave the runway . I would say it needs some work on the Flight model but for the price it's not bad , but it is a mixed bag .
Completely agree. I'll return to it again for some circuits to see how it behaves in different configurations, and at different weights :)
which msfs would fix the unrealisitic landing roll, feel like the plane is on ice and not connected with the tarmac
I love this plane. Bought it after watching your review. But one thing maybe you can help with. I can't get the runway lights to retract. I've tried every button I can find. I can turn them on and off but the will not retract into the fuselage. It's probably a key binding I have but as you actually show it does retract I thought I'd ask. Great channel and great content. Thank you
Happy christmas captain !
When I worked on the flight line, the howl of the MU-2 was an unwelcome sound. I heard is close without hearing protection once... once. My hearing was never the same. I had to unplug a ground power cart after starting the engines on another occasion... had to duck under the exhaust to get to the plug. Even with hearing protection, my brain shook so bad I became dizzy and almost passed out. Took an hour feel better.
The only aircraft I know of that is louder taxiing than when it is on takeoff roll!
I got so into the video i was right clicking trying to look around.
nice aircraft
Very good video as always. I read this aircraft is one of the most dangerous to fly. Good challenge of sim pilot but less for real passengers...
Wikipedia:
As of March 2016, 27.7% of 704 Mitsubishi MU-2s have suffered an accident since the model entered service in 1963, or 195 aircraft involved, the second highest accident rate among aircraft in this category behind the Fairchild Metroliner Merlin (30.2% accidents)2. “More than a quarter of the MU-2s built crashed, making them an example of dangerousness. The ultimate consequence of excessive icing is wing stalling, which can cause the plane to fall almost vertically, sometimes to the point of impact with the ground,”
Been hoping for this one! Thanks for the review. Price is dependent on which version of MSFS you bought. I had the Standard Version and it was $15US I think if you have one of the premium versions it was $10US
ah I was wondering why it was on sale
How do you activate the tow breaks? Are they different from the regular breaks?
Hello, It's hard to judge from the video, what's your opinion of the flight model? I'd be really interesting in this aircraft, but iniBuilds doesn't have the best track record for good FMs.
I was interested in wether or not you felt the fact that the plane only uses spoilers for roll control (so more drag every time you don't have the yoke centred, and if they got rid of that awful feeling of lack of weight/intertia and springy-ness that seem to have become the standard for a lot of MSFS planes).
Whenever I start this plane in MSFS, ATC doesn’t work.
oohh a baby dash 8 😄
Would like to see more on the auto pilot. I’m not able to engage tracking mode.
2:42 Could the strange drone camera anomally be the partial view of the pilot?. Am I right in thinking in drone mode the camera is slightly further back from the panel; and thus we see part of the animated pilot?.
If you use the drone camera or head tracking, you can put your head pretty much anywhere.
The Famous "Rice Rocket".
Did you trim for take-off? Didn't see you trim, which might explain the unwillingness of the plane to rotate.
It's a known issue. I didn't have enough flap.
good bro
I see they’ve done the short body MU2. Is there a plan to do the long body or Marquis model?
No idea :)
At minute 27:00 in the video did you look at the little nav map and saw that the airport only has a localizer BUT NO GLIDESLOPE?
WHERE CAN YOU SEE IN LNM THAT THE AIRPORT DOES NOT HAVE/OFFER GLIDESLOPE?
Greetings daniel
The green feather arrows. If there is no triangle in the end, there is no glideslope.
😀@@jonbeckett
Another question, if I may. This is a pressurized aircraft, right? But I could not see the pressurization controls in the front panel. Are they located in the overhead panel, or just missing in the sim model at all? Thanks again
I suspect the controls are along the side - I don't have the sim running right now. If it's in-line with other local legends, it will be dumbed down though - it might be modelled, but it won't be functional.
@@jonbeckettmost probably, yes. Well, if the model has been well constructed, it’s worth it, I think
@@eddiejunks I just had a look (I'm about to do a livestream with it) - it has pressure controls.
@@jonbeckettnow it appeals to me. Looking forward to watching your live…
Nothing to do with this aircraft, but anyone else have issues with the VFR Camera Safe function?? I tried to set my own VFR camera angle with the A320 and every time I click my preset button to Safe my view, it just does something completely crazy with the camera. It’s totally broken. I see CZcams videos though that say it works and it’s so simple but it never does. Any help??
It works for me :/
Hello, thank you for this tutorial. By any chance do you have a tutorial for CapSim 717-200? Thank you
Not yet!
@@jonbeckett No problem, thank you Jon!
Where do you find all these planes. I have been waiting for months for this one and the Piaggio. Nothing in the msfs market place
This plane was in the marketplace - a friend told me it had been released - I wandered over and bought it :)
What is the documentation that comes with the model? Manuals, checklists…. Nice video, as always
There's a really good manual with it - I completely forgot to mention it.
High Jonathan, I recently had to delete MS 2020 from my hard drive due to unforeseen problems, I have reinstalled and am looking for the WBsim 152 mod but all I get on the discord server is chat and other stuff, I can't for the life of me find the actual "download file" for this mod, I had it before, do you have any link as to "exactly" where the download file is on the discord server, thanks for any help👍.
If you set flaps to 40 for takeoff, it’ll fly itself beautifully off the runway. Also, I set the sensitivities for the roll axis to “0” sensitivity and 100 reactivity. 8 for dead zone. I went plus 10 to minimise the amount of yoke turn. The MU 2 has a fairly critical wing and needs to be flown more like a fighter, hence the settings I’ve laid out. I left pitch and yaw as is.
See what you think.
I think the aircraft is awesome. 👍
I love flying this but I'm frustrated with the radio and transponder. If I opt for the modern setup I can get the Garmin to operate but not the transponder. If I opt for the classic setup I lose audio on the radios and have to restart my computer to get it back. Is anyone else having the same issues? I follow the checklist step by step but the problem seems to be with the inverter. The Garmin goes crazy when it's on and works went it's off. That's not what the documentation says should happen. Like I said - frustrating! I emailed IniBuilds but they have not responded. I hope it's an operator error issue and not a bug. Flying without a transponder doesn't seem right even in a sim.
Do they not have a community discord server ?
you know that the flight assistant tells you the take off…landing….and stall speeds?
inibuilds are really perfecting there models with each release
Very nice "lookover" of this aircraft. It would be nice, if in the description, or the video itself, you could include the cargo capacity, seating (if configured for PAX), runway length requirements, fuel range... i think you get the gist. If I see this on Steam as a mod, but I would like to know a little about it before I purchase it.
Keep up the great work.
That's a LOT of extra work! You could look that up yourself just by searching for the type yourself :)
With respect, that's a bit much to ask. Why should he have to give you the entire specs of the aircraft? Why can't you get that yourself from wherever you expect him to get it?
I don't always know what people have access to, when they make their videos. All I know is when I go to Steam, and I see an aircraft I might want to buy, Steam does not include the aircrafts stats in the mods description. The aircraft mod might already be an equivalent to an in game one, making the modded one redundant (with respect to game usefulness). I am also using AirHauler 2, hence my curiosity.
But you are correct, I can look up the aircraft in question, and view it's stats based the manufacturer reports, but that only works if MSFS has recorded the exact same stats. In short I would need to buy the mod, to see what the stats actually are. It may not be the aircraft I'm looking for.
But this is not to take away from the work he did here in making this video. It remians a very nice job. I was just wondering if he had the stats, to please post.
I have had The misfortune of flying right seat in a mu-2. They are probably the loudest turboprops on earth
How do you get the Garmin on from cold and dark?
Avionics switch? To be honest I haven't tried the Garmin version from cold and dark so there may even be a bug.
@@jonbeckett found it. Auto start doesn’t switch on Inv Main on , lower left.
Can you do a video explaining how the ILS works in this plane? I can’t doe the life of me figure it out lol
I'll make a note :)
Best $10 I ever spent
The Mu-2 is NOT quiet..!!! lol I've seen them on the flightline. We were in class one day and outside there was a hell of a racket going on, you couldn't hear yourself thinking. It was an Mu2 just outside, idling. Our ground school instructor aptly said that this plane is very efficient at turning fuel into noise...lol
As cool as having accurate engine noise is i'm glad it's not in this case :P, i actually want to use the plane not die.
This thing fly like a brick with wings. It very heavy. Like other heavy planes or jets that has to go fast, it fly better and smother with speed. At lower speeds it does better with the flaps down, like when you're setting up for an approach and landing. The AP sure is different.
Am I reading this right, £12.49 for this aircraft, that seems very cheap for what looks like a quality product, is there any downside?.
The local legends are always cheap. The only downside I have seen so far is the sound - every real-world MU2 pilot or engineer I have heard from says the real thing was the loudest prop aircraft they ever saw or worked on :)
Well thank you Jonathan, I think I can live with that, I will buy this aircraft, thank you again for your reply.@@jonbeckett
6:08 a LATAM plane in Japan?
SimpleTraffic is quite... simple :)
almost like the Tecnam with a turbo engines....
Would be better if flysimware made their version of this for msfs.
Hum…. It doesnt have a DME, right? Or at least, I couldnt see one…
No - you have to triangulate if you're playing games with radio navigation and no cheating :)
Anyone else having trouble on takeoff with the engine shutting off
No - not flown it for a while though.
Flew these early in my career for a bank/check company. Cheap and fast... Other than nothing else. Painfully L O U D. A nightmare to fuel and I had to once in a while as linemen despised it. Tips are mains and only 60 gal iirc per side at a time or they will touch the ground. I might? buy this but can MSFS capture the Moo's unique traits " lift killers instead of ailerons, and it's eng out handling which killed some unaware", the ground handling leaning/rocking. A "by the numbers plane".Yet the performance, round gauges, appearance and rarity " military pilots use to swarm it wondering wth it was make it a impulse buy. Going to wait a few patches and I may fly it and give my 2 cents.
DO NOT get behind this aircraft! Watch the pitch especially. If you do not stay on top of this bird, it will kill you in a heartbeat.
Oh, and “quiet” is a word you will never hear regarding an MU-2. Also make sure you double check the “gear down” item on the checklist. I have seen many of these with scraped bellies. 😂Lol
The real thing is anything but "quiet"!!! It's one of the noisiest planes I came across in many years of platform!
It's frustrating that Asobo force developers to keep the aircraft quiet.
It almost sounds like a light jet
Asobo tells them to do that!?@@jonbeckett
The MU2 in XP is far superior and has much better physics
Well play X-Plane then :)
@@jonbeckett - A bit defensive, no? He was just making a natural comparison and he was right. The MU-2 in XP is renowned and has been around in one form or another since XP7. Just because he points that out, it means he should only play X-Plane? Really surprised in your comment here.
I'm not, and I agree. It's a pointless comment. I don't see the reason for posting it, actually. I can't imagine going into the XPLANE forum and seeing them talking about an airplane, and taking the time to write, " yeah, well I like the MSFS2020 version better." Who would really give a f&$k? @@droge192
Hrm. Kinda tired of the local legends stuff. I'd rather spend 30, maybe even 50 bucks on an in-depth, feature-rich aircraft that i'll actually want to come back to again and again.
With these Famous Flyers/Local legends, it always ends the same. You buy it because it's cheap, fly it a couple of times, then once the novelty wears off, there's nothing to keep you coming back. No real systems depth. Nothing to learn and sink your teeth into. No extra features like failures to keep you on your toes.
Worse yet, with these being pushed out as cheap, casual releases, it actually discourages other developers from releasing study-level versions the same aircraft, because it's hard to compete when someone's already put a 15-euro version out there, no matter how shallow it is. Happened with the Blackbird ATR, remember. It's very unlikely someone's going to do a more complex MU-2 now, which is just sad. Even more sad is that i'm still sort of thinking i might get it, because i love the MU-2 and if i want a chance to fly one in the sim, it's this one or bust. Hrmpf.
I guess the upside is that it makes Asobo/Microsoft money, which encourages them to keep updating and improving the sim. I just wish the releases weren't so mediocre.
While I agree, you perhaps have to remember that Asobo are catering to the majority - and those of us that love the really detailed aircraft are in the minority :)
@@jonbeckett Yeah, i get that. Speaking purely from my personal point of view, there. But hey, maybe if they released some properly deep, detailed aircraft, some of that majority would be convinced that those sorts of releases are more worthwhile? ;p
Having bought 2 other inibuilds aircraft I have found their models to be great and their flight models to be GARBAGE. They don't seem willing to listen to the community in the past. On the forums they've basically said "sorry community, you're wrong and we're right!" No thanks
To each their own :)
That's what mods are for. Someone who agrees with you will do one soon enough.
@@ceegnz because mods should be a requirement for poor payware?? Of course!
@@jonbeckett of course you'll take the middle ground Jonathan 😄
@@jmskelly59 Of course :)
Plane is good but the sounds are terrible!!
That is not how the propeller and power levers work on Garretts. You never took the props off the start locks. If this does not function in this program, it's totally FAKE
Why does the cockpit view look like it’s 6 inches off the ground? Terribly unrealistic
No GPS? I guarantee you there’s not a MU-2 still flying out there that doesn’t have one. You simply cannot operate effectively this day and age without GPS. I *was* excited for this aircraft. Now I know to save my money and skip it. Great fail, Asobo/Ini. 🙄
Erm... right at the start I point out that you can run it with a GPS if you want.
Set the Sim up to fail a engine at rotation!!! We'll see who the pilots are. Lol... Sadly, this airplane has killed many rich men and their families in the last 5 decades or so. You have to now get signed off/checked out to fly this baby,
Tell you what, as wonderful as the aircraft looks, they screwed up the engine start up with the insult to your intelligence sound and animation. Hope this aircraft was for free because if it wasn't, I want my money back.