THE WILDEST LANDING EVER at Madeira Airport
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- This is for sure the wildest landing ever at Madeira Airport!
Just a disclaimer, the airplane was empty, with no passengers
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Date: 26.03.2024
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00:05 TAP Air Portugal flight TP9576 from Porto Santo - Airbus A321-251NX - CS-TJQ - Landing
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Dann bin ich aber froh, dass ich mit dem Schiff angereist bin.
You got me landing yesterday. I’ll give you a wave next time 👍🏻
Bindere Dundat here. I bet this and the Yemen airport are in the virtual systems that train pilots.
It's because of landing gear complaint, this only possible,
F/O :- watch for the tail. It's 321.
Captain :- I'm going for the nose first then. 😂
Fucking hilarious comment.
Is this real or fake?
😂🤞 MMD
To land an A320 on the nose, with the tail hanging in the air, the speed must be way too high.
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@@sandaruransara4690 It's real.
I'm no expert, but 1) It looks wildly unstable on finals, 2) They touch down beyond the touchdown zone and 3) They touched down with the nose gear first. I'm quite astounded they continued with that approach let alone attempted a landing.
as mentioned in the caption, the aircraft was empty. TAP pilots are crazy lol
Consider that it's windy AF and barely any planes landed yesterday, with over 40 cancelled flights.
You have to have special training to fly here, so not only are they experts, but experts at this particular location.
This is actually a relatively tame landing, compared to other ones at this airport, which is known for strong winds and crazy landings. I’m surprised this even got any attention.
@@UnluckyPlantI'm not saying they are not experts but I don't think touching down with nose gear past the touchdown zone after an unstable approach is tame.
@@REEDFSX👍🏽Not tame, no. This is not a typical airport with typical circumstances. On top of that, the viewing angle is one that is further distorting what is going on. Usually, someone will post a video from overlooking the runway, that will give a better point of view.
I’ve landed in planes in Alaska that regularly drift in at a diagonal through turbulence and have to slam on the brakes, before the runway ends into the ocean. I found those way more harrowing, than my experiences flying into Madeira, where people always clap at the end, happy to have landed safely. 🤷🏽♀️
Wth... it's like watching a horror movie !
For those interested, let me explain:
1) The approach is crazily unstable. Not necessarily because of the gusts already destabilising the aircraft but also because the descent path wasn't corrected soon enough - the aircraft is about 100ft RA over the threshold and about 50ft high over the aiming point. So already at this point you already execute a missed approch without any doubt.
2) The airplane floated all the way till the end of the touchdown zone (900m), and still touched outside of it. Such a long touch down already prompts you for a missed approach, which wasn't the case here. The result was a nose gear first touch down possibly causing structural damage (such an impact needs a report on the ATL).
Basically there's nothing on this planet that justifies the continuation of an unstable approach, a go around is always the best way out of such a situation...
Uncontrollable fire or smoke, along fuel starvation, are examples of situations that would justify landing following an unstable approach. Don't think it was the case here, though.
LOL it's like watching Monty Python,
For those interested, let me explain:
If you have to explain a joke, don't!
@@user-wm3bf7pi3u except that it wasn't a joke, just some additional information
@@Top10Aviation And very good additional information, I was not belittling your comment.
Now put "Liberty Bell" over the clip and end with the foot coming down....
Maybe "Yakkity Sax" then end with Benny winking at a stewardess.
In short limbs are still attached, take a breath and laugh if you can.... it helps.
@@user-wm3bf7pi3uSorry for misunderstanding your initial comment, all good no worries 👍🏼
You can almost hear the captain screaming, "C'mon, Get down!!" all the way down the runway, LOL
He is definitely doing some fancy dancing on those rudder pedal's!!!
He was definitely going: "BAIXO, CARALHO!" I can, as a Portuguese, 100% attest to that.
Thanks for watching!
I have NEVER seen such a landing. WOW. As I heard many years ago in flight school, "You can ALWAYS go around".
If it don't look right coming down.
@@troyandrade435 Don't wait untill You're sideways, maybe sliding on the ground
There are a lot of sayings people repeat in aviation even though they are completely false. You can't always go around.
@@A.J.1656 He's quoting a song, pal.
@@troyandrade435
Cool story bro.
I remember flying into that airport in 1970 when the runway was much shorter. It was crazy windy and they handed out pillows and had the passengers get into the crash position. Peoples faces were white. I was 10 years old and loved it. It was like a carnival ride. This video sure was a crazy landing
@@miro6017Opening year is 1964!
Thanks for the visit
I landed there as a captain about 300 times on the old runway (B727) and 30 times on the longer one (A310)
Not once were the passengers told to assume the crash position! You're a liar!!!
Liar!!!
Time to check if the noise gear is still in one piece.
They should have done a go around.
Nice catch Pedro! 👌🏻
If it is, I think will be indeed called "noise gear" from now on.😅
@@Mxaviair"Punch in the nose" gear. 😊
Thanks for watching my friend
Props to the front suspension engineer! 😂
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As a captain of a well established UK airline, I know first-hand how challenging it can be to land in cross wind conditions. I will not pass any judgement on the captain as I know split second decisions need to be made, however after he or she performed this landing they no doubt would have called it differently.
But then you should also know that such drastic pitch changes warrants a go around, in this case from above 50ft by the looks of it. Especially when flying a jet. Forcing it to the ground this way was massively dangerous and I'm surprised the nose gear didn't collapse.
Thanks a lot for your kind comment!
There was no split second decision here. Everything was wrong for minutes at a time.
Probably the pilot is another DEI hire.
@@MrDyhard always one guy with the political insult. Today that person is you.
When I was training, we called that a "Wheelbarrow Landing". Nose first is extremely unpredictable and potentially very dangerous.
I'm not a pilot but I'm shocked that a competent crew would attempt that landing, correct me if I'm wrong.
@@REEDFSX Nope, you're 100% right.
Never flying Air Portugal.
😮😂😂
Being a professional pilot I'm very surprised the nose wheel didn't collapse.
@@x808drifter You can feel safe traveling with TAP. The chances of being in a plane crash are very low, currently standing at about 0.000014%. The worldwide AirLineRatings rating agency places TAP at level 7, on a scale of 0 to 7, in relation to the airline's safety.
That was insane.
TOTAL INSANE!!!!!!!!!!
Still do not believe!
It is absolutely insane this touchdown. Go Around and try again Captain!!!!!!
Why? The chances of having another abort and inherent consequences grow exponentially, TAP pilots are mostly ex-air force pilots that later in their careers change to civil aviation, and therefore the amazing TAP safety record for a 85 year old air line, they're not afraid of taking tough decisions and stick to it.
@@luistheserrano4785 If you think this is normal operation, you don’t understand nothing, especially Airbus operation.
Why, is the wind going to get any better the next time around?
@@redcapote4760 if the windy will be better doesn’t matter. Nobody will be put the aircraft using the nose gear first. It is complety unsafety action.
@@mfelicio1 Not landing at all is also completely unsafe. Mid-air refueling is not an option. At some point, you have to land in the less than ideal conditions.
Copilot: "There is to much wind, captain!"
Captain: "Dive! Dive! Dive!"
Nose gear: Ouch!
Man was diving like he bet his car and house on this landing.
Thanks for watching
That is absolutely insane. Never seen anything that bad in a long time. Way outside the tdz. Very dangerous
With that amount of headwind, and the aircraft being empty - as some said - probably not 'dangerous' in itself, but definitely way out of anything you could call a stabilized approach. I guess, in the end they landed with the ground speed of a Cessna 172. Look at the roll out: Probably 150 meters 🤣 But all jokes aside: Atrocious 'arrival' and should not have happened, even if the aircraft can take the beating...
Thanks a lot for the kind visit mate!
Just crazy. They had to perform a go around. Great catch.
Grx. Henk
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Great catch Pedro! The Captain forgot he was no longer an air force pilot 😅
what do you mean?? 😅🤣
@@pedronunz Há muitos comandantes da TAP que se formaram na Força Aérea e que depois abandonaram e ingressaram na aviação comercial.
Amazing filipe
@@luiscosta9183 eu sei… Só não sei onde ele foi buscar que na força aérea se faz destas coisas...
Airforce pilots don’t touch down nose first either. No one does on purpose (except maybe for air show stunts).
Best video ever! I would not have wanted to be in that TAP! Great catch @Pedro
Very smooth too, some people have no clue how to use a camera... this guy gets it.
@@user-wm3bf7pi3u yes, i agree! @Pedro is very good👋
Thanks so much my friend, still do not believe this video is real!
@@MadeiraAirporttrue! It’s amazing
Thank god it was empty !
That landing is absolutely atrocious, there was clearly a massive updraught but that should never have happened.
Or even an up draught but I know what you mean.😊
Supercalifragilisticexpiallidocious comment.
Thanks for the visit!
Thanks for capturing this Pedro..
Thanks so much, was an amazing day!
Chumbawamba! That was a doozy! That camera position was the best, Pedro. Always delivering the goods for us! 👏👏👏😊
Glad that i went to that spot, despite many don't like, but is the way we got this fantastic images!
Thanks so much for the kind support, always!
Saw this live, saw this video a couple of times and I still can't believe what I saw 😅
Indeed, i saw a dozen times, still not believe!
Man, you've got some of the best aviation videos out here.
Thanks for watching
The only plausible explanation for this weird and dangerous landing is that they were low on fuel. Critically low.
That’s what I also thought and this is the first comment I read that said so. We know nothing. It could have been its third attempt and low on fuel with equally risky diversion (alternate) options
Exactly that was my first thought, too. Which in turn could have had an influence on the approach itself, so that he had less room to make corrections.
Thanks so much for watching!
Wow never seen anything like this before
Me either!
Nosewheel landing? Ohhh definitely a very wild landing!
Thanks a lot for the visit mate!
Wow! I thnk TAP might have something to say to the crew about that one. But all sorts of factors come into play, its easy to say watching after the event they should gone around.
They were well past the landing/touchdown markings AGAIN!
There will definitely be some paperwork for the captain to fill out 😅
they will say "congrats, tomorrow there's more"
Plane was empty, no passengers
@@tjanson1still fly standard operating procedures. No excuse.
Oh my goodness... Scary it was... Great capture mate 👏👏
Thanks for watching mate!
Hey!
That’s a great clip. Would it be possible for me to use it for a short clip on my channels?
Yeah go head.
Hello, sorry just to check the comment now, was more than 1000, next time please write email is much faster. Thanks so much for passing by, if you still want to use the video feel free!
Que grande PILOTO...só pode ser da TAP
Obrigado pela visita!
I few into Madeira in the early 90's on TAP. Passengers were screaming during the approach and slam landing. Cabin crew were openly laughing.
😂
Obrigado pelo comentário :)
Amazing catch, my friend!
Thanks so much my friend!
After this I won't complain about my landings on Flight Simulator anymore.
Same 😅
Remember the Hudson river landing...the captain only managed because he literary trained that every week, as he was also senior simulation instructor for captains and knew how difficult that landing there is. He afterwards said that whenever he flies he is training for the worst scenarios he can find on that specific route, just in case.
This looks like one of mine
Thanks for watching
I remember seeing the airport when visiting Madeira and the guide was so proud of it, didn't have the heart to say it's not much bigger than my local Asdas car park! Lovely place and really nice people
Thanks for the visit!
How great this video was Thanks Pedro as always for a great jo and for the pilots too
Thanks for watching my friend!
Amazing Pedro 😮😊
Thanks a lot my friend Andrew!
Wow, that was one crazy nose-down landing. Awesome capture Pedro!
Thanks a lot my friend!
A lot of talent there. Something I was surprised to learn as a non-pilot was the goal is not to give a flawless, landing experience for the passengers, your goal is to place the aircraft on the runway
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but that wasn't a display of talent. Lol
Thanks for the visit!
Eithaaaaaaa que esse foi com emoção e também com erros né 🤦🏿♂️. Parabéns pelo registro Pedro... 🤝🏿👏🏿
Não houve erro nenhum!!! Abordagem dentro de todos os parâmetros de segurança!! O historico da TAP fala por si em termos de segurança !!! Quando muitos borregam e fazem go around os comandantes da Tap aterram a primeira normalmente!! Experiência e perícia!!!
Muito obrigado pela visita amigo Hamilton!
Seu canal também foi publicado no país. Estou na Tailândia, acabei de ouvir as notícias.🎉❤
Obrigado pela informação!
I fly the Airbus and I don’t know if I could wheelbarrow the airplane if I tried. Very impressive.
Thanks for watching!
Oh wow, that was a crazy landing! Wow, Pedro...1.6M views!!!! That's amazing! I always like to watch mad landings but my heart is always in my mouth watching them lol!
thanks a lot for the visit my friend :)
Well done Pedro for catching this on video. This video-clip seems to be re-posted on many News publications around the World.
Thanks so much my friend!
I’ve flown into that airport before. From what I remember, from the opposite direction, part of the runway is suspended over the ocean. But it’s really windy there. As a matter of fact my flight out was suspended for three days because of weather. (I think Christiano Ronaldo was born in Madeira. It’s a beautiful island. I would rather go there again than Hawaii anyday.)
Hope you can visit us soon again :)
We are flying to Madeira with TAP next month. Better prepare for a wild ride 😂
Was smooth?
Great Job. Thanks. ❤
Thanks for watching
TAP Station Engineers should have had a lot of fun with the required inspections for structural damage after that one....and a nosewheel first touchdown like that can cause major damage.
Pilots got lucky the plane tolerated it....should never have happened in the first place though, that kind of approach has so many "Go around" triggers one can hardly count...
Thanks so much for watching!
I would be driving, sailing, or walking back to where I came from after that experience.
Thanks for watching!
You made it onto 3 Minutes of Aviation with this one!👌🏼😀
Bem feito👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
(I still love landing in Funchal though, miss the island so much😳😎)
He made it, not me, i sold the video
ESPETACULAR aterragem! (para os incultos) - definição de "espetacular": que constitui espetáculo, que chama a atenção, que dá muito na vista. Não define algo bom ou mau. Bela filmagem Pedro. Obrigado.
Exatamente, espetacular mesmo, à nossa vista, as partes técnicas deixo para quem percebe melhor, mas foi mesmo ESPETACULAR
Probably the captain was shortly before retirement and was thinking "Yaaaaa let's do this!!!!!" :-D LOL
Thanks so much for watching!
'Kablammo"
Take that nosewheel...
thanks for watching!
Woah! That was one hell of a ride, to say the least.
Thanks for watching
Naquela atitude já sabia que ia bater....... Borregar não é pecado nem vergonha. Boas aterragens
Obrigado pela visita e comentário!
Plane: WIDSHEAR AHEAD! GO AROUND, WINDSHEAR AHEAD! LONG LANDING! GO AROUND!
Pilot: Hold my beer!
Thanks for the visit!
Everything is A-OK here. He was clearly aiming for the touchdown zone. For the other one.
Thanks for the visit!
I remember a similar experience at Funchal many years ago, before the runway was extended, a TAP 737 as I recall. The wind there can be unpredictable and we got in on the third go after two go arounds. At the end as we touched down, all the Portugese passengers clapped and applauded. Quite right too!
Real pilots :)
OMG ...Morria antes de aterrar!!😮😮😮
Eu adorava la estar
Absolutely amazing catch my friend
Thanks so much mate!
Holy crap!!!
That was insane!
The flight I was on must rank highly.
Short runway 1994.
The cockpit had indication of no reverse thrust capability nearing landing. Insufficient fuel to divert.
Fire tenders raced on parallel tarmac as we touched down as early as possible, all passengers braced expecting to overshoot the runway where a long drop awaited us.
A fairly scary landing!
Thanks for the visit!
Nose gear first😮
Beautiful capturing ❤
Thanks a lot for the visit!
Anyone know the pilot in charge? Asking for a friend in HR at Ryanair.
What for? Tao be on the black list? lol
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Holy crap my father was a military transport pilot, so I grew up flying around the world. That had to be one of the stupidest landings I have ever seen. This definitely should have been a go around.
Thanks for the visit!
Absolutely crazy Pedro, Thanks for the great camera work and the great quality once more. 😊
Thanks a lot Ray, we miss you!!
Mas que aterragem. Muito bem apanhado Pedro
Muito obrigado pela visita!
Just shown this to my pilot son. He was surprised, but said it happens. The problem is an empty plane and a massive change of wind.
Thanks for watching!
I think TAP chief pilot will want a word with this captain soon to be first officer 😮
Soon to be grounded at least.
@@sirisapet3931 It should
@@sirisapet3931 Bulshit.
And what if it was the TAP chief pilot?
@@apveening well, he can ground himself then 😂
Wow, another insane clip from Madeira! Thanks for sharing this crazy landing!!
Thanks a lot for the visit mate!
Geez what a landing!! Impressive capture my friend, you definitely don't see this everyday, imagine the passengers point of view during the rocky approach!😅😎
Thanks so much for the kind visit!
thats a crazy approach! really cool you were able to capture that. I wonder why they were so insisted on landing and not performing a go around
Thanks for the visit mate!
They landed past the touchdown zone with nose landing gear touching down first, they should have initiated a go-around!!!
Thanks for watching
Touch down with the Nose Gear. I never saw that Outstanding 🤭
This was amazing! Thanks my friend!
I landed at Madeira for the first time about 25 year ago ... a work colleague who was ex-RAF had warned me, and sure enough the Pilot came in on a banked approach and then bounced it down amazingly close to the wall which used to be next to the narrow Airstrip back then. Only the Cabin Crew didn't SCREAM ... I know the runway has been changed since then, but I'm not keen on a return
Thanks so much for watching!
@@MadeiraAirport I also knew a chap who was sent to help change a RAF Tornado Engine after a Birdstrike ... it made it to Funchal safely on one engine.
One major pilot rule: Never force an airplane to land! (That nose wheel landing could result in a nose-gear collapse.) It seems so that speed, and approach angle were not in limits, which resulted in very late touch down. (Yes, it was obviously quite gusty. Difficult conditions, no question, but if you recognise that it would be advisable to abort landing and to perform a go around.)It's always easy to criticise pilot errors outside the plane from another view. But it's a good example to learn how not to do and what to do better. May the pilot had a bad day. Finally we can say that every landing you can walk away is a good landing! (And when the plane is intact, it's a perfect landing!) Pilot's luck in difficult conditions. (Debriefing was sure quite interesting of the crew!)
Thansk for the kind comment!
Who ever made the nose wheel just got free advertising for the strongest nose gear made. That is one tough built plane.
Thanks for watching
Portugal 🇵🇹 greatest pilots God bless
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Ooooooh I'd love to have been on that flight
I would love too!
If I had done that in my PPL Training, my FI would have beaten me out of the plane...
exactly my thoughts
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To all those commenting negatively on the TAP pilot's skills, bear in mind that the History Channel programme 'Most Extreme Airports' ranked Cristiano Ronaldo International Airport Madeira as the ninth most dangerous airport in the world and the third most dangerous in Europe. Pilots must undergo additional training to land on its single, rather uneven and rather short (2781 m) runway. The wind is extremely unpredictable. There can be very strong and rapidly varying crosswinds. Any landing that doesn't break the plane is a great landing.
Yes, we are very dangerous, last accident in 1977....
@@MadeiraAirport Yes, TAP Flight 425, a Boeing 727-282, overran the runway and crashed onto the beach, killing 131 of the 164 people on board. A terrible disaster. At that time, the runway (runway 24) was only 1600 metres!
I can‘t imagine that the front wheel was designed for those loads - crazy unstable too.
Thanks for the visit!
That looked like nose first…I guess if it was up it might have bounced more. Always exciting to see these videos.
Thanks so much for watching!
Classic case of "GetThereItis". They'd already spent the night in Porto Santo due to diversion and knew that another go-around could've messed up another days schedule and potentially spend another night away from home. The right thing to do was go around and try again, but just shows how even highly trained professionals still succumb to human impulses and commercial pressure.
no pax onboard, no commercial pressure
@jocacole4557 They were positioning to Madeira to then do the flight to Lisbon full of passengers, and then the plane is required at Lisbon for later flights that evening, so yes there are.
@@GarethReecewood actually no, cs-tjq was bound to lis and diverted to fnc. but whatever
@@jocacole4557 It didn't divert from Funchal to Funchal. It was lined up to takeoff and got called by maintenance to return to the gate and de-board. It's currently still at madeira pending inspection
@@GarethReecewood i didnt say it diverted from fnc to fnc. i’m saying it left pxo to lis and diverted to fnc, hence this landing
The Captain said to the First Officer „hold my Beer“ …and then 🎉
😂😂😂😂
It is always good fun until some one looses an eye.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the visit :)
great catch!
Thanks so much!
The airport is known for being one of the more difficult to land at because of the cross winds. Before they lengthened the runway it was one of the more dangerous airports and only pilots who had sufficient training were allowed to land there. The day before I landed they closed the airport due to high winds and flights were rerouted to neighbouring islands. It’s a very beautiful island and worth visiting!
Inspection to that front landing gear please!!! 🙏
The plane is grounded, I wonder why 😂😂😂
It was inspected indeed!
It looks like they ve messed up with the approach speed calculation, with this pitch. It’s either incorrect wind entered in FMS or an opposite runway since airbus would then increase the Vapp inappropriately due to GS mini function
Thanks for the kind visit
Incredible capture on video mate, you are a genius
Thanks a lot my friend!
It looks like a really good landing, much better than the ones I did in Battlefield
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Seriously looks like one of those simulated landings in a game
Indeed, but it was real, and was live!
Left engine was about to touch the ground. The plane was about to drift off the runway. Why in the world they continued with that?!
Cockyness maybe?
No, it wasn't, it was totally safe, you call that a skilled CAPTAIN!!! Do you happen to know how many times this captain has landed in Madeira!!??? Camone do caralho
Thanks
I dont know where this is, but it looks absolutely beautiful there, and oh, nice capture.
Venue is on the description
They were so fortunate. Scary. The wind really is in control! 💨 Take you off course or just flip you upside down.
Thanks so much for watching!
Holy crap!!! That was stupid in so many levels!!
Thanks for the kind visit
CRAZZY!
Thanks a lot!
Wow this gust just before touchdown ! 😮
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The A321neo has always been a fun one to watch in the wind (and scary) I notice it a lot at LHR when it’s windy
Thanks a lot mate!
Excelente Pedro ;) Quando pensamos que já não existe mais nada de novo, aparece nos estes pilotos 🤣
Podes crer, depois da vergalhada do SAS, pensei que nada mais me ia surpreender aqui :)
@@MadeiraAirport Ahaha, aqui está a resposta 😂💪
Estes pilotos o quê?????? Foi uma aterragem forçadita, rasgadinhaaaa, mas sempre nos limites, dentro de todos os parâmetros de segurança!!! Achas que os pilotos de outras linhas aéreas Sao melhores que os nossos???
I am a frequent flyer with TAP, also airline pilot with another company, and consider them very proficient . Exceptional situation.
Do yo think they may have come in a bit hot to allow for a wind shear that didn't happen? It's a curiosity question from a non airline professional pilot. Thanks.
@@pipercessna3827 No idea what happened before, but additional speed is limited to 15 kts. This should not upset an approach. Also nose wheel first is a clear indication, that they forced the landing from a very unstable position. No excuses: this should have been a go around.
@@micheldriessen5081Never _wheelbarrowed_ a landing in the smaller twins I flew and that didn't look good but I wasn't sitting up front so no idea what was happening. Appreciate the response from someone who flies a similar sized machine. Thank you. 👍
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