Without their creators CZcams is fine. Another generation of creators starts everyday. This is just a dope video. 28 mil subs and 5 mil on a video. Dying channel.
The fact that Cory had to avoid saying self harm and suicide because he was scared the video would get taken down while Jack says it so nonchalantly cause he doesn’t have to worry about it. I’m not saying anything negative on either of them, it’s just funny where you see the blatant differences in how they approach their videos and how they’ve learned to be because of CZcams’s treatment of them.
Yep And Orion as well They have their CZcams account still even though they're a REAL threat to the community because of the four false allegations to the one person WITHOUT even using the platform
As a small creator that got my entire channel demonetized and see other people that make similar content to me still posting freely and monetizing… this message is so important for upcoming creators CZcams’s system is so unfair it needs to be talked about more
This video echoes my own experiences the past 3-4 months. Lots of videos getting limited or age restricted completely. It's made me far more cautious about which games I can cover safely on the platform and the kind of content I can produce. It's demotivating that's for sure. Hopefully we can get some better transparency from CZcams and perhaps they can take a second look at how they handle content - especially fictional stuff like videogames. Cheers for speaking up on this Seán.
Holy shit! The Bendy Theorist himself!? I know you cover other games, but man I love your content! Also, any updates on Bendy and the Dark Revival's release date?
Don't ever let the bad comments get you down ever, remember happiness is eternal, people are only mean because they either don't like other people or they're just mean and they want to bring people down, keep doing the great work your doing bro thank you.
at some point, its gonna become the feeling of “why even take the risk” because of how youtube cant communicate properly with the people that make it it what it is
I think CZcams should give you the chance to edit out what they don’t like on the video. I’ve received info and time stamps on why some of my own videos have been age restricted which was stuff like my thumbnail or excessive cursing. But they kept them age restricted and didn’t give me a chance to clip it out or change thumbnail. When you get flagged for copyright music you get a chance to edit it out or mute it.
Favoritism is really prominent on this platform. I’ve had multiple creators have their videos re-monetized after using the CZcams editor the remove “guideline breaking” parts of the video. But when I did it, CZcams support told me i wasn’t allowed to do that and fully demonetized my videos.
Isn't that the point of the CZcams Studio/ Editor? To make it easy to cut out things that A. You, the creator isn't happy with or B. CZcams isn't happy with. It was definetely one of those nitpicky admins that are full of themselves and think they're the messiah. Just like Discord and Reddit.
I've had a problem like yours when I tried to upload a stupid brexit meme I made with the gumball challenge meme and my video got flagged instantly even though I saw bigger channels uploading it with no problems. I did try to appeal saying that other channels had uploaded without any issues but youtube did the obvious thing and rejected it.
favoritism is massive. just look at QuantumTV situation. unhinged bl^ck dude and does all sorta sh^tty h0m0ph0bic stuff, cyberb^llying, illega^l copyright strike and what not and he is roaming free while tge Actman gets fked over trying to bring his deed under light.
I mean, I understand how important the the big content providers are, but come-on CZcams!! You are going to lose viewers, like me, if you keep up this “favouritism”!
Just realized that ever since this video I haven’t been recommended your stuff. No wonder I haven’t seen your videos in my feed, I think this just confirms it. Shape up CZcams.
Plus, like Charlie said, Cory is as user friendly as it gets. He doesnt say any curse words, he censors himself, so logically his videos would do better with ad revenue and more viewers. Yet himself and his videos are suffering more than bigger youtubers that consistantly curse.
I honestly think this is a combination of there being too much stuff to manually check all the time in general, leading to mediocre auto-management with very non-transparent systems that nobody understands (including YT themselves seemingly lmao). Then in the case of Cory specifically, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a group of people going out of their way to flag his content and mass report his vids because A) They just don't like him personally (which is ridiculous because he's a good dude). B) They are racist (even more ridiculous in this day and age, but sadly still common). Or C) A combination of those things. Whether or not it's just random users going after him or there really are some people within the company itself targeting him (doubtful since so many other creators including non-POC creators having stuff de-monitized/striked for seemingly no reason), this is a bad look for the platform and company as a whole and this whole situation only serves to ruin YT and content creation for the creators, viewers, advertisers, and ultimately YT themselves.
"To keep children safe..." Children have youtube for kids. Case closed shut. The overdone censorship of regular youtube content is absolutely ridiculous.
I agree, parents need to watch out for their own kids, they made a special platform for children. It's like in school when one person acts up we all get punished
Exactly! Blurring out words like death and die. I understand giving the context but it’s a natural part of life. The censorship is a complete joke and was fine the way it was
@@MelloriNoMori "it takes a village!" Is a popular saying when it comes to raising kids and it's like ok but you still have your own responsibilities as a parent lmao
Know what's really for the kids? Let's keep pushing shorts promoting men putting down woman for the sake of their own fragile egos. Yeah we can't have this black guy being a positive influence on others or anything. Giving "alpha male" Mysogynists the attention is really what's important
although I agree with many points raised in corys video i think we need to keep things in some perspective. for this im going to borrow what Andrei Terbea said about the youtube algorithm when talking about leafy: "youtube's decision making is highly dependent on two external factors with one hand they're trying to keep advertisers happy without which the platform could not possibly sustain itself and with the other youtube tries to avoid regulation from lawmakers who will not rest until they put constraints on these huge social platforms they don't even fully understand. away from all the big people in suits trying to co-exist in some fragile harmony there's us the creators (that being you and me) between 30 to 50 million people who are uploading content totheir channels but as we've seen multiple times it's enough for just one creator (whether that might be pewdiepie or jake/logan Paul) to cross a line for this harmony to completely crumble whether that means advertisers getting upset and everybody's income getting cut in half or regulators seizing their chance to put youtube in a corner with stuff like article 13 or coppa and again all of us have to suffer as a result"
The thing that got me about Mark's "try not to laugh" strike... they struck the wrong video. They didn't check which video had the "offensive" clip; they removed the video mentioned by both CZcamsrs, when it was the next video in the series that had the clip in it. It was a total knee-jerk reaction to the complaint raised; they didn't even check if it was the right video that they were taking down.
It's actually a bit weirder. Here is what happens at CZcams and why they won't tell you anything: - Each Creator is actually assigned a hidden "grade" which specifies how safe for ads they are. - There is a global algo list of words that trigger immediate flags. Certain words and slang used will have higher chances of triggering the flag. I've tested this extensively as I just do tech content, but I was intrigued by it when I had a video get flagged as my content is about as safe as you can get. So why doesn't CZcams tell everyone this? - The words that trigger the immediate flag could come off as discrimination of many minority groups and is how the entire algo is built to protect the younger audience. - If everyone knew their "grade" then it could be argued in court that CZcams willfully sensors content and can control the content on their platform. This has massive legal ramifications that could hold Alphabet "Google" liable for the content hosted here. This is why we are left in the dark and why they can't tell us much.
I hope that this comment gets pinned or somehow boosted! This is complete and utter BS that it’s ran that way. Completely unfair. Thank you for this knowledge! 🫶🏼
My theory is that you got age restricted later because you get more views, youtube pushes more ads in that short time in the millions, which is quick cash gained there, but Evelyn's channel is smaller, so lesser userbase, so less money made, so hit faster.
The fact that they removed the age restriction once they were shown Mark's video just shows that it was never about the video's content in the first place. I love Cory too, he deserves better.
I'm genuinely wondering CZcams will actually change something now that people with larger platforms are talking about it. I'm so glad you're using your voice to raise awareness to this problem, I hope other people follow suit to yours as well.
"To keep children safe" has itself proven to be an excuse a lot of the time to justify censorship. It's what a corporation says when they don't want to spend money figuring out a way to make something work *properly*. "Oh, we can't have this. Think of the children," said the man whose previous idea was to have you select your age before certain games can be played. Not for the safety of the children in that case though, just to cover their own butts in court.
5:26 I dont know if these words come from your heart but you earned a sub and a fan regardless. A man of honesty is a rare sight in these day even just verbally. looking forward to your other content.
"To keep kids safe" CZcams KIDS aside, since when are corporations and creators responsible for parenting? If your kid watches something it shouldn't for their age, its the responsibility of the parents. Any parent that disagrees with this is straight up a danger to their own kids. You don't go to a knife-manufacturer complaining that their stuff isn't safe for kids, do you?
Not to mention, that it was completely useless anyway. They had to stop collecting kids data? Then why do I get ads for kids toys sometimes? They still have a market idea trying to get to kids. Theyre just pretending that they care
even then, sometimes a good quality knife company (or toy company) may come out with kid-safe knives (usually acrylic) that don't cut and use pure chopping power instead. it's the company's job to make sure the material won't poison my daughter, and it's MY job to make sure she doesn't push it down on her fingers. it should be an effortless team effort that results in the least amount of injuries as possible, yk?
@@haldouglas4773 Yes. When it is advertised to be child safe, it is supposed to be just that. Thats on the company and the respective creators. But to push that agenda on every other product aswell? Straight up nonsensical.
This is an abusive relationship plain and simple, and someone needs to hold CZcams accountable for using bots to enforce their vague rules and making knee jerk reactions whenever people call them on their bullshit. Unfortunately that would probably take ACTUAL legal action and that takes money and not a whole lot of creators on CZcams don't have that kind of cash.
Yeah I agree I don’t think anything meaningful will come from this unless legal action is taken against CZcams. They don’t care about the people who use their platform.
I wonder if it would be possible to do a joint operation of this... say that all the content creators concerned compile the cash in a group savings then hire a team willing to work with the group. Either that, or go up to the doorstep of HQ and peacefully protest
CZcams has a monopoly on online videos. Until there's serious competition, they have no incentive to do better. They could come out and publicly say they hate their creators and think we're all peasants, and out options would be to keep watching their content or not have any online videos.
I really appreciate you and other CZcamsrs speaking out about this. I'm trying to start making content, but I feel like with everything going on, having to adjust your contents thumbnails and videos to the algorithm or watching other people's accounts suffer for no reason just doesn't make the experience enjoyable anymore. This is an issue CZcams needs to look into because otherwise so many account (no matter how big or small) are going to suffer, regardless on what they create and how careful they are. Thank you again for speaking out, hopefully something will be done soon!
When it's easier and more convenient to try to stay out of situations like these so you don't get involved and potentially risking putting yourself in the ''bad books'' of CZcams by speaking up, thank you Sean for speaking up on this especially for Cory and lots of other smaller youtubers. Knowing that CZcams has the power and many creators especially smaller ones and those whom depend on youtube for a living, they feel at the mercy of youtube and of course would avoid risking their channel and livelihood by speaking up against this. I do agree that our creativity feels suppressed with having to tiptoe around everything and get so anxious if there will be any issues with the video. It feels exhausting and demotivating to even upload when everything feels so punishing. Thank you Sean for being an advocate for all creators ❤
I'd actually like to understand if there are ANY possible technical difficulties that would make it a harder process for a company as big as CZcams to deal with.
CZcams NEEDS TO: -Promote the YT kids app -bring back dislikes -remove double ads -listen to their community -use less bots/fix their bots -crack down on bot/spam commenters (thanks Hajimemes) -regulate YT Kids further
Yes, they SHOULD be able to know what they're being flagged for. But I don't think a company this big is ever going to be transparent in what they do unfortunately. It sounds like they have the bare minimum of rep interfacing with the creators, as if the reps have very little allowance in what they can say. It must be really frustrating to be in that position, and I can imagine a LOT of reps constantly voicing in meetings that they need to communicate more with creators, but to those higher up making the decisions on what is allowed, I doubt they're listening to the reps at all.
@@---jt5wg I find it incredibly short sighted as profitable as CZcams it as the company grows they should know to hired more employees. I agree with your points completely, but I hope that good change can come from this
CZcams definitely just needs to be WAY more transparent. Because when it gets to the point of flagging someone's video, and not telling them why, that's when it becomes unacceptable.
Cory having so many people rallying behind him (when it pertains to such a serious issue as racism or favoritism within this website) is really, really good to see.
Of course, he makes great content! I’ve been subbed for years now I think, I don’t watch him often but every time I wander into his channel again, it’s always a wealth of laughs and good times.
I wonder, is it CZcams being racist or picking people to raise up and protect or is it the AI algorithm in charge of it? Because if it’s the AI that’s a deeper issue that needs to be seriously addressed.
Cory addressing this Major problem, Has led to Penguinz0 AND Jacksepticeye to explain and talk about it, waiting for more and more people to talk about this
youtube: Genuine Racism, ignoring, abusing small creators, allows for 90rn, takes down videos of people trying to help the victims of rape, assault, pizzaphiles, and degrading bots that spam comment replies; almost nothing done also youtube: removes Dislikes (after saying they aren't), disables comments on their own shorts videos (i wonder why lmao), says they listen to feedback (does the same thing again the next year), supports black history month (bans a black creator the first fucking day because he made a joke about it), and has a pride month logo (accept for in any middle eastern country)
I really feel like at this point, people just need to do the brave thing & change to another platform. CZcams has ZERO competition, which is the reason they don't care when this issue comes up over & over & over again.
The favt that all the big content creators Don't even fight or get jealous of their views, and popularity, and they just come out and stay together, and support each other like co-workers or something. I love you guys
"Keep children safe" To be honest they did make CZcams Kids for a reason. If they have that platform already for kids, why making the MAIN YT as kid friendly as CZcams kids? This should be a general platform while the YT kids gets the censor words filter and all that stuff, I dont get It.
You tube kids is genuine hell Just because this is getting famous I have a question - everything depends on opinion is what I have been said so I wanted u people to enlighten me that after what point opinions become invalid and useless For example many video can be cringe but that is subjective, I wanna know how subjective it is
CZcamsr Plagued Moth proved that real gore on YT is a thing, not to mention a lot of "gray area" content. And here they freak out about a game in which nobody gets killed, that has a legit story and a very artistic approach when it comes to the dreamy sequences.
On the topic of appeals, reviews, and website reps: Tiktok has the same verification/review process problem, if not worse. They purposefully leave their terms of service very vague so they can decide who gets taken down and who doesn't. I know it's a different platform from CZcams, but it plays into the issue of manual vs automated reviews and other algorithm based flagging and appeals. As an artist who can spend weeks on a very short video, it's so heartbreaking when something just gets smacked down without a second thought. A lot of us have also been through the process of appeals and being ignored by the system. Love that you're speaking out on this.
LMFAO!!!! Respect the creators? My sweet summer child. You must be new to the world. Hopefully your learning of how the world works will be as painless as it can get. I wish you all the luck!
@@RetroGamingSweden I was also once in the edgy phase. My nerves tingle with cringe everytime I look back. You’ll get out of it soon one day, my sweet summer child. Good luck.
@@blackwolf3361 it doesn't matter how many people speak up CZcams will still continue with there scummy behaviour I mean look what happened with the dislikes maybe if this was 2009 CZcams would listen but there to big to give a crap oh I'm sorry poop.
14:14 there’s also region flags as well.. sometimes content shared from different areas have different rules, regulations, etc. I know you’re a larger channel, but I’ve seen where smaller channels I can only see some videos where as others say, “not available in your area,” due to different flags
Thank you Sean for speaking out on this, it makes me sad that CZcams is doing this. CZcams needs to get their crap together and fix their issues with this.
"I don't want special treatment just because I'm a big CZcamsr" Stuff like that is what makes us follow creators like you. You get big but at no point do you let it get to your head. If anything, you guys struggle more and more about how to adequitely react with every new milestone you guys hit. You keep your humanity, and I love you for that.
There's one thing I don't know if I missed or if it's just being overlooked. It's nice to say you don't want special treatment. The thing is if they treated everyone equal on upload it would take even longer for the review process. If they checked and reviewed everything the same then they would take more time to get to a lot of the smaller CZcamsrs, if nothing else than from the larger amount of videos that would need review. Not to mention it would lose more money for everyone uploading videos, big and small. Even if they treated everything equal on upload I'm pretty darn sure the review process would still skew to bigger CZcamsrs favor because they would be losing more revenue, both the individual and the company. It instinctually might not seem fair but there are explanations that aren't as...disheartening as the face of the situation presents.
It's their way too control and manipulate creators, when content creators don't know the rules clearly, everyone is afraid and YT just do what they want.
Iam so glad you are using your platform to speak on these issues. I’ve seen August the Duck point out kids channels that have content that have adult context but are not age restricted or flagged for inappropriate subjects. CZcams definitely has favorites.
I wanted to start a gaming channel this year but after how many creators are struggling and these are known creators struggling makes me wonder how worth it it is to dedicate into something that isn't currently stable. I lost 3 creators that are no longer posting because CZcams is flagging their videos and not even explaining why. So not only is CZcams discouraging creators we like their worrying new creators as well. like you said you've been doing this for 10 years you work hard everyday providing content that you can't be sure is going to be okay or not. its like having a job that keeps you on probation. its really disappointing to see CZcams not really doing much to sort this issue out despite it being a big problem for a while. has it come to the stage that CZcams is just no longer interested in their creators and just want money. CZcams was really entertaining for the most part in previous years but even as a viewer I'm enough of ads every 5 minutes its like one of those stupid clickbait games now. Not to mention the content just isn't as fun as it used to be with creators constantly worried about their content dialling it down. or even just stopping it entirely because their livelihood is at stake and its no only worth It. starting to hope someone starts a new app that was like how CZcams used to be before stuff hit the roof. If CZcams wants to continue being the app that it is it needs to start hiring people who are capable of taking these concerns into consideration and start forming protection for their creators and content.
Honestly, if you’re comfortable streaming I’d would just switch to twitch and stream instead. I know twitch has its problems but I haven’t heard nearly as many bad stories as I have with YT.
CZcams has changed, they call it an "improvement" but everyone who prefers the OG CZcams calls it, "a way of erasing the people that made it to what it was now."
They've got their big fancy house built up nice and pretty, so now they want to get rid of, and possibly ruin, anyone that helped lay the foundation and build it in the first place.
You are absolutely correct that CZcams punishes you for taking time off, Jack. This is a consistent and disturbing pattern with content creators on this platform, where their numbers take a noticeable hit after a break.
Yeah, had this too when I took a break during the holidays. Would be great if there was a vacation mode, where you can temporarily disable your account for the algorithm (ideally people could still watch your videos) and setup a custom message for your audience.
@@RobinB360 I’m no CZcamsr, but I don’t think it’s fair that any content creator should have to do what you’re suggesting. Not that it’s a bad idea. I just feel bad for creators in general; that it’s gotten to the point where you feel as though you _have_ to suggest a Vacation Mode. The first time Seán took an extended break in 2017- which wasn’t really a break, since he was testing his HDWGH Tour as well as doing Ready Player 3 with Arin and Danny- there were a few people whining about it. But I remember the majority of comments on that particular Vlog being loving and supportive. You’d think CZcams’s Algorithm would be able to detect all the positive messages and actually see that viewers not only support breaks… _We ENCOURAGE them!!_
This is why I love Jack , he's such an amazing person and wants to use his platform to bring attention to things that maybe wouldn't be as recognized otherwise . And he does and says everything so respectfully . I love that he's willing to stand up for the "smaller creators" regardless of the backlash he could get from youtube for it . He's just honestly a good person at heart . And if youtube takes him away from us and more importantly takes away how he and so many others make their living and also the thing that really brings them joy and helps them connect to so many people around the world .
They are totally playing favorites. Even in their search algorithm. Searching our own channel by name, it's amazing how much I have to scroll past to be seen.
It's great to hear Jack, Cory, and Charlie all talk about this massive issue and massive lack of clear communication (if any communication to begin with) that CZcams has with it's creators
I have this problem a lot too, gets annoying real fast because I just came back from a huge break, and now my new content is fine for a while, then gets flagged (WITHOUT A NOTIFICATION, so I literally have to check every single day) and the views just drop, which is really dangerous as I haven't been making content for months CZcams needs to fix this, like actually :/
yeah, i feel like they should at least give you a reason as to why they do the things they do but i think we all know why now.. ps, love your vids weegee
@@bonezxz the first issue is definitely the fact they say it's "manually reviewed" Im ready to bet my LIMBS it is NOT, and that it's automated in some sort and that might be why they don't say anything, they just won't bother :/
it sucks because then we have to complain, like we hate the platform, no, I absolutely love this platform, so please don't give me a reason to complain :(
I love how everyone is spreading the word about Cory's situation to get more people to know, and I doubt that CZcams is going to change anything but hopefully they do.
a year later, still a problem. i think youtubes algorithm has shifted to only shit all over smaller creators and people of minorities even more. atp this feels intentional, and it sucks
So far, all the mortuary assistant footage I did has NOT been age restricted or anything. But in the past week, I've been noticing uncharacteristically higher numbers of lost subscribers. Posted about it on twitter and huge numbers of people have been messaging me saying they were unsubbed my not only mine, but similar content creators they watch regularly. Thank you for using your voice to speak out for all of us.
I literally watched all mark's mortuary assistant videos and now it's age restricted?? Even tho i already watched it and am a minor?? I was literally more disturbed by the first part which isn't age restricted, than the 3rd/4th part which are. I literally can't remember what they could've been restricted for, it was that impactfull and horrible😍
I remember when CZcams would unsub people, based on how often they visited your channel, years ago... I think that was around the time the algorithm stuff started.
This ... this is weird.... I am not a creator, but I am noticing that videos I have watched and have liked are showing up again on my feed without the like.
I will oftentimes like videos and sub to content creators as a means of support --- basically saying "I like what you do, keep up the great work". It's completely uncool (unacceptable, even) for CZcams to control my account and unlike/unsub without my knowledge. That should not be allowed to happen.
I think the worst part about the whole CZcams situation is that there's no real way to protest this. Theres no real way to starve them of profit, which would be the most effective message to send.
I hope CZcams gets they're income so low that the employees at the headquarters begin to starve and they're like. Oh how about if we actually go back to the old system
There is only 1 way. A mass boycott of the majority of the creator community. It will only make a small 2% dent in their profits, but the defamation will not be good for their PR and a lot of sponsors/brands will pull away. They'll have to take action if not for their Profit, then for their Reputation
There is one way, but nobody considers it viable, because _technically_ it isn't. On its own, it's inefficient, non-viable, very much something that people will get arrested for. Done alongside a much bigger movement to end a lot of bad practices on the other hand? That's doable, and we'll see success. However the problem arises that not a lot of people sympathize with each other in the same way anymore. What I mean by that, is that turning a profit tends to take priority over the moral choice, and due to hundreds of years of systems that have indoctrinated people into thinking this way of living is viable, no-one really thinks of doing anything any more, as if it just isn't possible, or that it's wrong to try fighting for what's actually right. My head hurts. Part of me's baffled we actually allowed this to happen, the other part understanding people are too easily manipulated by media, corporate and government control conspiracies. Even worse is, people that try explaining or exposing this often get pitted into the same hole as the real fringe and odd conspiracy theorists, which is only going to lead to further downfall. Sorry for the textwalls. Have a good day.
Speaking on the mass-reporting of a CZcams channel, that happened recently with a channel I watch: "DissociaDID." Someone they had worked with wrongfully reported many videos claiming they have some ownership and it was just a mess. I would recommend watching the video DissociaDID posted for further explanation AND if you can support them (as they are in court with the man responsible for mass-reporting).
There's so many times I'm hesitant on playing a certain game, or reacting to certain videos. Because, of this exact issue right here. I'm so glad to see Cory and Jack speaking out on behalf of all creators... Large like them or smaller like me. It can only hopefully make the platform better for everyone. Much love to you all, and especially Cory. I'm sorry they are treating you this way, it's extremely messed up.
Pretty much screams this: CZcams does not know what it's doing at all when it comes to ethics. Basically it's being lead by money and algorithms and not some kind of thought-out code. Historically speaking, given that it is relatively new, and new tech tends to go through a 'okay this is unethical/getting people killed, time to reel it in to not suck so badly' period. Thinking of industrial revolution assembly line work conditions, or the shift from apothecaries to pharmacies type situations. Hopefully this is that period for CZcams.
Funnily enough, draconian flagging system in itself actually makes sense and youtube would be easily able to justify it if it wasn't for various inconsistencies in its behavior.
It’s refreshing to see youtubers talk about the issues on the site Edit: about 90% of the replies to this comment so far are bots. You really can’t avoid the problems being talked about
The only consistent behavior at CZcams is that whenever they fuck up, it only gets corrected when a big creator points it out, and the fuck up is always an "error". They constantly apply their rules inconsistently, then treat any call-out of that unjust application like it's a one-time mistake, with no indication that they have any plans to fix the underlying problem
They definitely don’t have plans they’re a monopoly grown lazy. Why would they fix anything when there’s literally nowhere else to go. It’s surprising that youtube hasn’t been split by anti trust laws. The only other competitor in the same content type is Vimeo i geuss, and they’ve just been slowly dying.
i disagree sometimes even when big creators do stuff youtube doesn't care, jack has been a big proponent against youtube and the removal of the dislike button, pewds also. and youtube just doesn't care.
You're mostly right but it's silly to expect anything different. That's how big businesses are, which is why if you want one to be more ethical there have to be regulations and unions, because a big corporation will never willingly value ethics over profit.
Not just CZcams, it's been something going on with all social media sites going corporate. And there's probably some inevitablity to it unfortunately, as having technology where people can connect to more people than any other time period would mean incentivizing the money-makers to be money-makers (just as railroads/locomotives, the European printing-press, and the Silk Road trade has done in the past).
I say it was when monetization of content happened…which won’t have been possible for CZcams if it didn’t have interesting content creators drawing people to the site….. CZcams is bits the hand that feeds.
I dont think CZcams realizes that without the creators on THEIR platform, they would be nothing. So its mind boggling to see that CZcams is treating their creators horribly. Its so messed up. These creators spend their life working to make it to the top, just for CZcams to come in and shove them back to square one. It just makes no sense.
CZcams: “We’re removing the dislike button.” Community: “We don’t want that.” CZcams: **Removes it anyways** CZcams: “Keep content family friendly and don’t violate our rules.” Also CZcams: **Allows ads that violate the same rules they tell content creators not to break** CZcams: “Scams are not allowed on our platform.” Also CZcams: **Allows scam bots to run rampant throughout the comment section** CZcams: “We restricted your video.” Creator: “Why?” CZcams: **Refuses to elaborate** Something needs to be done.
@@theuniverse5311 That's how they started out, and even for a while after they got bought by Google they were still pretty good about that. Nowadays CZcams is just a monopoly and they can do whatever they want.
@@nophoto2393 it could be both, but this is the problem: we don't know. We're just in the dark and CZcams seems to be refusing to include the community (and its creators) in its growth. Random, but I wonder if they removed the dislike button 'cause of their last few Rewinds LOL
First time on this channel and it's an instant subscribe. I'm impressed. Best of luck dealing with what's obviously a de facto monopoly being lazy at best and being malicious at worst.
Comment section need a to ban all bots here , The sex bots, the “I’m better than this CZcamsr” bot, the “Claim your here within and out bots basically ALL bots need to be banned because I have been sending so many reports but CZcams does nothing about it
Why does the first thing he thinks of have to be that YT is racist though? It's the woke way of thinking that black people are immediately victims because of their race and race alone.
These bots are ridiculous. I just want to hear other people's opinions without the comment section being spammed. CZcams needs to really step up their game in so many places.
CZcams should add a feature inside of CZcams Studio that uses the same automated checking system to check videos before they're uploaded. And if there is a problem, it should give a time and a reason why
nah he playing the race card, the fact that dude had the nerve to call youtube 'racist' when they are the reason he's a millionaire, just from sitting on his ass playing a video game to entertain this brainless generation. these 1st world country problems are insane
Listening to Sean talk about how Evelynn gets flagged right away, and not his own I had this thought. They're letting the bigger creators go longer without restrictions and such because they're pulling more revenue and views for the site. And they will probably let it go altogether if no one says anything because money. I'm sure I'm not the only person to have this thought or come to this conclusion, youtube needs to be more fair regardless of views, because it hurts the site as a whole, smaller channels will struggle more because the aren't pulling the same numbers, and larger channel's validation of hard work gets dismissed because they are, not to mention in a world with so much division already do we really need it here as well, by showing bias for certain creators?
Yeah, actually. Whomever can rake in more dough than a local bakery get more than "special treatment". Google/The CZcams Team ignore the users who make a ton of money for them or look the other way if certain things happen. That's just my guess since.
Yeah i have been doing this for 8 years and I think a lot of things I see from smaller creators too and maybe something's for me has been maybe not really maybe have gotten push more out there or something else and it's been hard for me to do anything it use to be way different and a bit better back in 2016 and 17 I think
And I dont understand the system no more my friend only has 200 subs and he gets over 5k views and getting his videos push and I havent at all not which he doesnt know Ethier weird system I dont get it no more
Legendary, thanks for speaking on this man truly.
We all love you Cory don't worry we all will stand together to solve this
I hope this problem at CZcams is solved soon
Yes youtube needs to know that they are a bad platform and nobody is happy with their bad decisions and changes
Stand strong man
Speaking fax in your video
This needs to change. Made respect for speaking about it. I second guess every video now too.
Hopefully CZcams listens
CZcams’s policy sucks
Yo rad brad
@@syrup69 CZcams never listens
Exactly
Without their creators, CZcams is nothing. When it comes to these sorts of symbiotic relationships, transparency is necessary.
Yep, but it's a classic "too powerful" mentality. They don't care, they have too many creators.
Without their creators CZcams is fine. Another generation of creators starts everyday. This is just a dope video. 28 mil subs and 5 mil on a video. Dying channel.
Well if everyone stopped using youtube, they would learn pretty quick.
@@Grimhof good thing that’s not happening anytime soon. So nice impossible scenario to bring up
really? then ask all of them to move
You're a superhero man 🦸♀️
Frfr. Gives us small homies a chance 🤌
fax
Facts
Agreed, also the bots are a massive problem
yeah, theyre a huge problem
I see their proposed bot solution is still not at work yet...
Damn even lee is in here
I'm surprised the bots haven't shown up on this comment thread yet.
Yeah, they took control of the internet
The fact that Cory had to avoid saying self harm and suicide because he was scared the video would get taken down while Jack says it so nonchalantly cause he doesn’t have to worry about it. I’m not saying anything negative on either of them, it’s just funny where you see the blatant differences in how they approach their videos and how they’ve learned to be because of CZcams’s treatment of them.
great point
Agreed
wow I didn't even realize that, thank you for pointing that out
It's a good example of white privilege, exactly
Exactly!
with the current sniperwolf situation, I can say this video has aged like a fine wine
came to comment the same thing. youtube moment
Yep
And Orion as well
They have their CZcams account still even though they're a REAL threat to the community because of the four false allegations to the one person WITHOUT even using the platform
For real
And jack being called out because of his comments on RE5 game
As a small creator that got my entire channel demonetized and see other people that make similar content to me still posting freely and monetizing… this message is so important for upcoming creators CZcams’s system is so unfair it needs to be talked about more
Ah yes “small” , compared to them yes, but me
This video echoes my own experiences the past 3-4 months. Lots of videos getting limited or age restricted completely. It's made me far more cautious about which games I can cover safely on the platform and the kind of content I can produce. It's demotivating that's for sure. Hopefully we can get some better transparency from CZcams and perhaps they can take a second look at how they handle content - especially fictional stuff like videogames. Cheers for speaking up on this Seán.
@@akari7375 same to you
Holy shit! The Bendy Theorist himself!? I know you cover other games, but man I love your content! Also, any updates on Bendy and the Dark Revival's release date?
CZcams can be a pain sometimes and there is no other question for it the guidelines are terrible a times, glad to spoke out too Superhorrorbro!
Don't ever let the bad comments get you down ever, remember happiness is eternal, people are only mean because they either don't like other people or they're just mean and they want to bring people down, keep doing the great work your doing bro thank you.
keep your head up dude ❤️❤️❤️
The keeping kids safe thing should be pretty easy given that THERE’S AN ENTIRE DIFFERENT APP CALLED CZcams KIDS
FACTS!!
SERIOUSLY LIKE 💀
They were never supposed to be on the site anyway. That’s what pisses me off.
The thing is, I’m pretty sure that it’s kind of a cesspool. Remember the weird videos like pregnant Elsa? Pretty sure they migrated over there.
EXACTLY !
at some point, its gonna become the feeling of “why even take the risk” because of how youtube cant communicate properly with the people that make it it what it is
Why do you think there's almost 15 alternatives now that are on a constant rise & steep upward track?
Vimeo, Dailymotion, Minds, Locals, Bitchute, Parler, Odysee, Rumble, MediaFire, TikTok, the list keeps rising.
No one cares for Facebook & Instagram anymore either. Big Tech is destroying themselves. It makes no sense but it is GLORIOUS to see.
John Doe, we must pick one of them to be CZcams's successor, it is time for ol CZcams to die, for it has become too corrupt.
@@kagemushashien8394 Amen
The problem with censorship is that it is always subjective. CZcams getting bad press is exactly what it deserves.
I think CZcams should give you the chance to edit out what they don’t like on the video. I’ve received info and time stamps on why some of my own videos have been age restricted which was stuff like my thumbnail or excessive cursing. But they kept them age restricted and didn’t give me a chance to clip it out or change thumbnail.
When you get flagged for copyright music you get a chance to edit it out or mute it.
Glad to see you guys stepping up against CZcams🙏
100%.
No way its the legend himself.
100 percent correct
Dad 😮
Favoritism is really prominent on this platform. I’ve had multiple creators have their videos re-monetized after using the CZcams editor the remove “guideline breaking” parts of the video. But when I did it, CZcams support told me i wasn’t allowed to do that and fully demonetized my videos.
First
Isn't that the point of the CZcams Studio/ Editor? To make it easy to cut out things that A. You, the creator isn't happy with or B. CZcams isn't happy with.
It was definetely one of those nitpicky admins that are full of themselves and think they're the messiah. Just like Discord and Reddit.
I've had a problem like yours when I tried to upload a stupid brexit meme I made with the gumball challenge meme and my video got flagged instantly even though I saw bigger channels uploading it with no problems. I did try to appeal saying that other channels had uploaded without any issues but youtube did the obvious thing and rejected it.
favoritism is massive.
just look at QuantumTV situation.
unhinged bl^ck dude and does all sorta sh^tty h0m0ph0bic stuff, cyberb^llying, illega^l copyright strike and what not and he is roaming free while tge Actman gets fked over trying to bring his deed under light.
@fours04 🇬🇧 my brother in christ
You know the CZcams problem is getting serious when Jacksepticeye has to speak up...
I mean, I understand how important the the big content providers are, but come-on CZcams!! You are going to lose viewers, like me, if you keep up this “favouritism”!
I know right everything and everybody deserves to be heard.
CZcams sucks ass at that.
@@rovertgamehead Literally though.
And Jack ends up getting ads on this.
Just realized that ever since this video I haven’t been recommended your stuff. No wonder I haven’t seen your videos in my feed, I think this just confirms it. Shape up CZcams.
Plus, like Charlie said, Cory is as user friendly as it gets. He doesnt say any curse words, he censors himself, so logically his videos would do better with ad revenue and more viewers. Yet himself and his videos are suffering more than bigger youtubers that consistantly curse.
He evens censors the games he plays
I honestly think this is a combination of there being too much stuff to manually check all the time in general, leading to mediocre auto-management with very non-transparent systems that nobody understands (including YT themselves seemingly lmao). Then in the case of Cory specifically, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a group of people going out of their way to flag his content and mass report his vids because A) They just don't like him personally (which is ridiculous because he's a good dude). B) They are racist (even more ridiculous in this day and age, but sadly still common). Or C) A combination of those things.
Whether or not it's just random users going after him or there really are some people within the company itself targeting him (doubtful since so many other creators including non-POC creators having stuff de-monitized/striked for seemingly no reason), this is a bad look for the platform and company as a whole and this whole situation only serves to ruin YT and content creation for the creators, viewers, advertisers, and ultimately YT themselves.
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"To keep children safe..."
Children have youtube for kids. Case closed shut.
The overdone censorship of regular youtube content is absolutely ridiculous.
I agree, parents need to watch out for their own kids, they made a special platform for children. It's like in school when one person acts up we all get punished
Exactly! Blurring out words like death and die. I understand giving the context but it’s a natural part of life. The censorship is a complete joke and was fine the way it was
Ah yes... as if CZcams kids isn't capable of watching your kids.
"Think of the children!"
How about you raise your children?
@@MelloriNoMori "it takes a village!" Is a popular saying when it comes to raising kids and it's like ok but you still have your own responsibilities as a parent lmao
Know what's really for the kids? Let's keep pushing shorts promoting men putting down woman for the sake of their own fragile egos. Yeah we can't have this black guy being a positive influence on others or anything. Giving "alpha male" Mysogynists the attention is really what's important
This is NOT ok. CZcams HAS to improve.
This is why I respect Jacksepticeye as a youtuber because he's willing to talk about these kinds of things unlike other bigger creators
although I agree with many points raised in corys video i think we need to keep things in some perspective. for this im going to borrow what Andrei Terbea said about the youtube algorithm when talking about leafy: "youtube's decision making is highly dependent on two external factors with one hand they're trying to keep advertisers happy without which the platform could not
possibly sustain itself and with the other youtube tries to avoid regulation from lawmakers who will not rest until they put constraints on these huge social platforms they don't even fully understand. away from all the big people in suits trying to co-exist in some fragile harmony there's us the creators (that being you and me) between 30 to 50 million people who are uploading content totheir channels but as we've seen multiple times it's enough for just one creator (whether that might be pewdiepie or jake/logan Paul) to cross a line for this harmony to completely crumble whether that means advertisers getting upset and everybody's income getting cut in half or regulators seizing their chance to put youtube in a corner with stuff like article 13 or coppa and again all of us have to suffer as a result"
That's because realistically, it'll be of no consequence.
The thing that got me about Mark's "try not to laugh" strike... they struck the wrong video. They didn't check which video had the "offensive" clip; they removed the video mentioned by both CZcamsrs, when it was the next video in the series that had the clip in it. It was a total knee-jerk reaction to the complaint raised; they didn't even check if it was the right video that they were taking down.
🤣🤣🤣 so dumb
Wait really
@fours04 the Confederate flag checks out
@@Fedelmine bro it's British
@@Fedelmine
I don’t agree with the comment (plus it’s a bot)
But you’re joking about the flag being a confederate flag right?
It's actually a bit weirder. Here is what happens at CZcams and why they won't tell you anything:
- Each Creator is actually assigned a hidden "grade" which specifies how safe for ads they are.
- There is a global algo list of words that trigger immediate flags. Certain words and slang used will have higher chances of triggering the flag.
I've tested this extensively as I just do tech content, but I was intrigued by it when I had a video get flagged as my content is about as safe as you can get.
So why doesn't CZcams tell everyone this?
- The words that trigger the immediate flag could come off as discrimination of many minority groups and is how the entire algo is built to protect the younger audience.
- If everyone knew their "grade" then it could be argued in court that CZcams willfully sensors content and can control the content on their platform. This has massive legal ramifications that could hold Alphabet "Google" liable for the content hosted here.
This is why we are left in the dark and why they can't tell us much.
This comment needs to be widespread because this is news to me and also insanity but unsurprising to say the least.
Google is literally 1984
For real brother
I hope that this comment gets pinned or somehow boosted!
This is complete and utter BS that it’s ran that way. Completely unfair.
Thank you for this knowledge! 🫶🏼
In case this video gets taken down along with its comments, I'm going to screen shot this comment for future references to hold against youtube.
Hope CZcams will be able to address all these critical issues really soon! ❤
welp with whats goin on now i would say no jot at all lol
My theory is that you got age restricted later because you get more views, youtube pushes more ads in that short time in the millions, which is quick cash gained there, but Evelyn's channel is smaller, so lesser userbase, so less money made, so hit faster.
The fact that they removed the age restriction once they were shown Mark's video just shows that it was never about the video's content in the first place. I love Cory too, he deserves better.
And the fact they tripled down on it meant they knew it was unfair and tried to cover their asses
2nd
⬅️⬅️I'm bëtțer than Jacksepticeye and his daddy 👨
I love that Cory’s message is spreading like wildfire
tbh I'm satisfied
Good, let ppl know CZcams Company is a bunch of pigs 👏🏽
It needs to spread, otherwise CZcams won't give a flying f*ck
Yup, hoping that since now that jack is spreading awareness other big CZcamsrs like markeplier are willing to help too!
⬅️⬅️My čon ťent is better than JackSepticEye because His Daddy is not in heaven. I'm better than Jacksepticeye
I'm genuinely wondering CZcams will actually change something now that people with larger platforms are talking about it. I'm so glad you're using your voice to raise awareness to this problem, I hope other people follow suit to yours as well.
I love when other youtubers stick up for others! Thank you Jack
I'm so glad ever since cory spoke up everyone is coming together to talk about this, CZcams is destroying itself.
Fr
@@l4g bruh imagine translating in my language
@@l4gI wont subscribe to you
@@l4g You encountered the golden monkey! The golden monkey grants you immunity to these stupid comments
WHat else is knew? CZcams's never been great.
"To keep children safe" has itself proven to be an excuse a lot of the time to justify censorship. It's what a corporation says when they don't want to spend money figuring out a way to make something work *properly*. "Oh, we can't have this. Think of the children," said the man whose previous idea was to have you select your age before certain games can be played. Not for the safety of the children in that case though, just to cover their own butts in court.
imagine keeping children safe by disabling mini player
Isn’t there CZcams kids
Key word:kids
1000% it’s “all about keeping the kids safe” but then they show ads with full nudity and graphic uncensored animal abuse/murder.
@@ScolopendreYT CZcams kids should be renamed CZcams toddlers. Good luck getting someone older than 6 (and not sheltered) to use the kids app.
@@presidentgamingzyt
I’ll never understand how mini player was ever relevant to child safety
I like how all of the big CZcams channels decided to stand together for this one that is awesome
5:26 I dont know if these words come from your heart but you earned a sub and a fan regardless. A man of honesty is a rare sight in these day even just verbally. looking forward to your other content.
"To keep kids safe"
CZcams KIDS aside, since when are corporations and creators responsible for parenting?
If your kid watches something it shouldn't for their age, its the responsibility of the parents.
Any parent that disagrees with this is straight up a danger to their own kids.
You don't go to a knife-manufacturer complaining that their stuff isn't safe for kids, do you?
Not to mention, that it was completely useless anyway. They had to stop collecting kids data? Then why do I get ads for kids toys sometimes?
They still have a market idea trying to get to kids. Theyre just pretending that they care
even then, sometimes a good quality knife company (or toy company) may come out with kid-safe knives (usually acrylic) that don't cut and use pure chopping power instead. it's the company's job to make sure the material won't poison my daughter, and it's MY job to make sure she doesn't push it down on her fingers. it should be an effortless team effort that results in the least amount of injuries as possible, yk?
@@haldouglas4773 Yes. When it is advertised to be child safe, it is supposed to be just that. Thats on the company and the respective creators.
But to push that agenda on every other product aswell? Straight up nonsensical.
This is so true but the last line could be put in a stand up LMAO
Yup, youtube is fucked up
This is an abusive relationship plain and simple, and someone needs to hold CZcams accountable for using bots to enforce their vague rules and making knee jerk reactions whenever people call them on their bullshit. Unfortunately that would probably take ACTUAL legal action and that takes money and not a whole lot of creators on CZcams don't have that kind of cash.
Yeah I agree I don’t think anything meaningful will come from this unless legal action is taken against CZcams. They don’t care about the people who use their platform.
I wonder if it would be possible to do a joint operation of this... say that all the content creators concerned compile the cash in a group savings then hire a team willing to work with the group. Either that, or go up to the doorstep of HQ and peacefully protest
Wtf are you on about « abusive relationship » ???
CZcams has a monopoly on online videos. Until there's serious competition, they have no incentive to do better. They could come out and publicly say they hate their creators and think we're all peasants, and out options would be to keep watching their content or not have any online videos.
No, a lone content creator successfully can't file a lawsuit against CZcams but if a lot of creators unionize, maybe it's possible.
I really appreciate you and other CZcamsrs speaking out about this. I'm trying to start making content, but I feel like with everything going on, having to adjust your contents thumbnails and videos to the algorithm or watching other people's accounts suffer for no reason just doesn't make the experience enjoyable anymore. This is an issue CZcams needs to look into because otherwise so many account (no matter how big or small) are going to suffer, regardless on what they create and how careful they are. Thank you again for speaking out, hopefully something will be done soon!
When it's easier and more convenient to try to stay out of situations like these so you don't get involved and potentially risking putting yourself in the ''bad books'' of CZcams by speaking up, thank you Sean for speaking up on this especially for Cory and lots of other smaller youtubers. Knowing that CZcams has the power and many creators especially smaller ones and those whom depend on youtube for a living, they feel at the mercy of youtube and of course would avoid risking their channel and livelihood by speaking up against this. I do agree that our creativity feels suppressed with having to tiptoe around everything and get so anxious if there will be any issues with the video. It feels exhausting and demotivating to even upload when everything feels so punishing. Thank you Sean for being an advocate for all creators ❤
Not to mention their ignorance when it comes to bots spamming multiple CZcams comment sections, their negligence when it comes to this is massive.
Istg every comment section has those bots and there isn’t an option to report bots. Some are racist too
Actually, they’re focusing on the wrong things
I'd actually like to understand if there are ANY possible technical difficulties that would make it a harder process for a company as big as CZcams to deal with.
As demonstrated in CZcams Rewind 2018, CZcams doesn't know the first thing about their own community
It would be so ironic if they started spamming here, under your comment😂
CZcams NEEDS TO:
-Promote the YT kids app
-bring back dislikes
-remove double ads
-listen to their community
-use less bots/fix their bots
-crack down on bot/spam commenters (thanks Hajimemes)
-regulate YT Kids further
And crack down on bot comments...
@@GamingWithHajimemes thanks idk how I forgot that
have you SEEN the sh*t on yt kids? it's probly *better* to let your kid watch normal youtube than the stuff on there.
We'll be lucky to get even one of those
@@dudebro3846 it's aight
Jack just earned sooo much more respect for addressing this situation❤
Watched right the way through, and will watch part 2 or atleast some of it. I really empathise with creators. I Hope it gets better for you guys ❤️❤️
You know CZcams has messed up when Cory, Jack, Charlie, and Ryan talk about how bad it's becomes.
It should have been discussed earlier, unfortunately.
And don't forget John Wolfe!! His video was also amazing
@fours04 🇬🇧 what?
I want to see Charlie’s and Ryan’s videos, can I get the name of their channels or the links of the videos?
@fours04 🇬🇧 ? u ok buddy ?
Him saying “we don’t know but we SHOULD know” is such a great statement to say. Loved the video and that people are bringing attention to it
To bruh tho
Kpop sucks
Your one of the bitter channels
Yes, they SHOULD be able to know what they're being flagged for. But I don't think a company this big is ever going to be transparent in what they do unfortunately. It sounds like they have the bare minimum of rep interfacing with the creators, as if the reps have very little allowance in what they can say. It must be really frustrating to be in that position, and I can imagine a LOT of reps constantly voicing in meetings that they need to communicate more with creators, but to those higher up making the decisions on what is allowed, I doubt they're listening to the reps at all.
@@---jt5wg I find it incredibly short sighted as profitable as CZcams it as the company grows they should know to hired more employees. I agree with your points completely, but I hope that good change can come from this
as a black person myself i think this is unfair and cory u should really push this more make youtube feel so guilty they are on the brink of canceled
I think we need a class action lawsuit…
CZcams definitely just needs to be WAY more transparent. Because when it gets to the point of flagging someone's video, and not telling them why, that's when it becomes unacceptable.
Cory having so many people rallying behind him (when it pertains to such a serious issue as racism or favoritism within this website) is really, really good to see.
@Bruh ⸜⁄ Your content isn’t worth the life you’re living.
Of course, he makes great content! I’ve been subbed for years now I think, I don’t watch him often but every time I wander into his channel again, it’s always a wealth of laughs and good times.
@@TKmeh To be honest, I've only watched a few of his videos, every now and then. But a topic such as this is that important.
I wonder, is it CZcams being racist or picking people to raise up and protect or is it the AI algorithm in charge of it? Because if it’s the AI that’s a deeper issue that needs to be seriously addressed.
Fully support him, but I don’t think it’s racism per se, I think it’s just because of how garbage CZcams’s algorithm and system is in general
Cory addressing this Major problem, Has led to Penguinz0 AND Jacksepticeye to explain and talk about it, waiting for more and more people to talk about this
Ludwig too
@@luckyrice672 Asmongold as well, because JiDion followed Cory.
And Phillip DeFranco
youtube: Genuine Racism, ignoring, abusing small creators, allows for 90rn, takes down videos of people trying to help the victims of rape, assault, pizzaphiles, and degrading bots that spam comment replies; almost nothing done
also youtube: removes Dislikes (after saying they aren't), disables comments on their own shorts videos (i wonder why lmao), says they listen to feedback (does the same thing again the next year), supports black history month (bans a black creator the first fucking day because he made a joke about it), and has a pride month logo (accept for in any middle eastern country)
Yea
I really feel like at this point, people just need to do the brave thing & change to another platform. CZcams has ZERO competition, which is the reason they don't care when this issue comes up over & over & over again.
The favt that all the big content creators Don't even fight or get jealous of their views, and popularity, and they just come out and stay together, and support each other like co-workers or something. I love you guys
"Keep children safe"
To be honest they did make CZcams Kids for a reason. If they have that platform already for kids, why making the MAIN YT as kid friendly as CZcams kids? This should be a general platform while the YT kids gets the censor words filter and all that stuff, I dont get It.
You tube kids is genuine hell
Just because this is getting famous I have a question - everything depends on opinion is what I have been said so I wanted u people to enlighten me that after what point opinions become invalid and useless
For example many video can be cringe but that is subjective, I wanna know how subjective it is
@@binay413963 Elsagate, bright color scheme everywhere, creepy stuff and generally 0/10 things that makes your statement absolutely true.
CZcamsr Plagued Moth proved that real gore on YT is a thing, not to mention a lot of "gray area" content. And here they freak out about a game in which nobody gets killed, that has a legit story and a very artistic approach when it comes to the dreamy sequences.
If that's CZcams's stance they would have got rid of James Charles. But no they send him to met gala
Exactly!! Plus youtube is actually 17+ on the App Store.
It's nice to see that the community's are coming together to talk about the issues that are on the site.
Don’t forget that CZcams doesn’t “easily” ban incel bots that do nothing but to be the pain in the ass
@Lucas Garcia nigga yu weird asf
CZcams: bans creators for speaking up Also youtube: doesn’t ban racist bots
Exactly!!
@@Lostforstories Yeah bots In comments make me not want to reply to people because the first 5 replies are bots saying terrible things.
bro I'm so glad to see other youtubers coming in to support cory
On the topic of appeals, reviews, and website reps: Tiktok has the same verification/review process problem, if not worse. They purposefully leave their terms of service very vague so they can decide who gets taken down and who doesn't. I know it's a different platform from CZcams, but it plays into the issue of manual vs automated reviews and other algorithm based flagging and appeals. As an artist who can spend weeks on a very short video, it's so heartbreaking when something just gets smacked down without a second thought. A lot of us have also been through the process of appeals and being ignored by the system. Love that you're speaking out on this.
It’s disappointing that CZcams does this. They should respect the creators that make them what they are.
LMFAO!!!! Respect the creators?
My sweet summer child. You must be new to the world. Hopefully your learning of how the world works will be as painless as it can get. I wish you all the luck!
@@RetroGamingSweden Fair point, unfortunately. "You're*" :troll:
@@Melomuun u didn’t even correct it
@@RetroGamingSweden I was also once in the edgy phase. My nerves tingle with cringe everytime I look back. You’ll get out of it soon one day, my sweet summer child. Good luck.
@@This_is_weird This comment made my night 😂😂
So glad this isn’t being put under the rug, like most social media issues.
So true and yet so sad.
CZcams is putting it under the rug. They don't care. It makes me mad.
@@blackwolf3361 it doesn't matter how many people speak up CZcams will still continue with there scummy behaviour I mean look what happened with the dislikes maybe if this was 2009 CZcams would listen but there to big to give a crap oh I'm sorry poop.
there can only be so many issues before we have to do something
@fours04 🇬🇧 (the second account) god and hell don't exist
14:14 there’s also region flags as well.. sometimes content shared from different areas have different rules, regulations, etc. I know you’re a larger channel, but I’ve seen where smaller channels I can only see some videos where as others say, “not available in your area,” due to different flags
Thank you Sean for speaking out on this, it makes me sad that CZcams is doing this. CZcams needs to get their crap together and fix their issues with this.
"I don't want special treatment just because I'm a big CZcamsr" Stuff like that is what makes us follow creators like you. You get big but at no point do you let it get to your head. If anything, you guys struggle more and more about how to adequitely react with every new milestone you guys hit. You keep your humanity, and I love you for that.
@Kavetion In your dreams pal
@Necrotron Commenting your mom is also in my bedsheets too 🤣🤣🤣
There's one thing I don't know if I missed or if it's just being overlooked. It's nice to say you don't want special treatment. The thing is if they treated everyone equal on upload it would take even longer for the review process.
If they checked and reviewed everything the same then they would take more time to get to a lot of the smaller CZcamsrs, if nothing else than from the larger amount of videos that would need review.
Not to mention it would lose more money for everyone uploading videos, big and small. Even if they treated everything equal on upload I'm pretty darn sure the review process would still skew to bigger CZcamsrs favor because they would be losing more revenue, both the individual and the company.
It instinctually might not seem fair but there are explanations that aren't as...disheartening as the face of the situation presents.
I stopped youtubing and switched to music because I dont wanna do CZcams anymore just because
Yup, he's been big since 2010-15 and honestly, his content is still as enjoyable
It’s insane how they refuse to tell people what they did wrong. You’d have to tread lightly just to avoid a possible ban from the platform💀
Yep
They get it from the IRS, ”We won’t tell you how much you owe us but if you get it wrong you go to prison”
they more or less became a corporate form of the DMV lol
It's their way too control and manipulate creators, when content creators don't know the rules clearly, everyone is afraid and YT just do what they want.
"Gotta make creators paranoid and afraid of channel deletion"- yt probably
Iam so glad you are using your platform to speak on these issues. I’ve seen August the Duck point out kids channels that have content that have adult context but are not age restricted or flagged for inappropriate subjects. CZcams definitely has favorites.
I wanted to start a gaming channel this year but after how many creators are struggling and these are known creators struggling makes me wonder how worth it it is to dedicate into something that isn't currently stable. I lost 3 creators that are no longer posting because CZcams is flagging their videos and not even explaining why. So not only is CZcams discouraging creators we like their worrying new creators as well. like you said you've been doing this for 10 years you work hard everyday providing content that you can't be sure is going to be okay or not. its like having a job that keeps you on probation. its really disappointing to see CZcams not really doing much to sort this issue out despite it being a big problem for a while. has it come to the stage that CZcams is just no longer interested in their creators and just want money. CZcams was really entertaining for the most part in previous years but even as a viewer I'm enough of ads every 5 minutes its like one of those stupid clickbait games now. Not to mention the content just isn't as fun as it used to be with creators constantly worried about their content dialling it down. or even just stopping it entirely because their livelihood is at stake and its no only worth It. starting to hope someone starts a new app that was like how CZcams used to be before stuff hit the roof. If CZcams wants to continue being the app that it is it needs to start hiring people who are capable of taking these concerns into consideration and start forming protection for their creators and content.
Honestly, if you’re comfortable streaming I’d would just switch to twitch and stream instead. I know twitch has its problems but I haven’t heard nearly as many bad stories as I have with YT.
CZcams has changed, they call it an "improvement" but everyone who prefers the OG CZcams calls it, "a way of erasing the people that made it to what it was now."
Honestly
Fr, it isn’t the same anymore
Fr
Too true, if NigaHiga, Smosh or those other OGs tried to start up now, they'd be shut down by the end of the week!
They've got their big fancy house built up nice and pretty, so now they want to get rid of, and possibly ruin, anyone that helped lay the foundation and build it in the first place.
You are absolutely correct that CZcams punishes you for taking time off, Jack. This is a consistent and disturbing pattern with content creators on this platform, where their numbers take a noticeable hit after a break.
Yeah, had this too when I took a break during the holidays.
Would be great if there was a vacation mode, where you can temporarily disable your account for the algorithm (ideally people could still watch your videos) and setup a custom message for your audience.
Yup! I know this first hand & it’s so shitty because when you do have time to come back it’s like all the work you put in didn’t matter.
yes completely agree. i’ve noticed this with even the biggest channels n it shouldn’t be that way!
@@RobinB360 I’m no CZcamsr, but I don’t think it’s fair that any content creator should have to do what you’re suggesting.
Not that it’s a bad idea. I just feel bad for creators in general; that it’s gotten to the point where you feel as though you _have_ to suggest a Vacation Mode.
The first time Seán took an extended break in 2017- which wasn’t really a break, since he was testing his HDWGH Tour as well as doing Ready Player 3 with Arin and Danny- there were a few people whining about it. But I remember the majority of comments on that particular Vlog being loving and supportive.
You’d think CZcams’s Algorithm would be able to detect all the positive messages and actually see that viewers not only support breaks…
_We ENCOURAGE them!!_
less views, less money
This is why I love Jack , he's such an amazing person and wants to use his platform to bring attention to things that maybe wouldn't be as recognized otherwise . And he does and says everything so respectfully . I love that he's willing to stand up for the "smaller creators" regardless of the backlash he could get from youtube for it . He's just honestly a good person at heart . And if youtube takes him away from us and more importantly takes away how he and so many others make their living and also the thing that really brings them joy and helps them connect to so many people around the world .
They are totally playing favorites. Even in their search algorithm. Searching our own channel by name, it's amazing how much I have to scroll past to be seen.
It's great to hear Jack, Cory, and Charlie all talk about this massive issue and massive lack of clear communication (if any communication to begin with) that CZcams has with it's creators
@Kavetion being better than a dead man isn't much of an accomplishment
I saw 8bitryan also made a video (in my subscribed feed)
At this point I don't even need to watch Cory's video, I've pretty much seen it all from the other reactions lol
Jidion also made a vid about this topic. Honestly that was the first time that I saw him talking so seriously.
@Kavetion No, this is Jacksepticeye, not Techno
Damn bots are pretty braindead
they've been playing favorites for quite a while already. of course CZcams would deny it.
True but everyone thinks they're alone in it
But when Cory said it, everyone latched on because *he had the same problem and spoke out*
not really. It's only because cory is a big popular channel. Pewdewpie had issues with YT and was vocal about it years back.
@Marie Rodriguez I'm shadow banned as well.
@@undeadaxolotl8584 What does that mean exactly?
especially with Logan Paul, Jake Paul and H3H3 as well as Mini Ladd. All bad CZcamsrs that they defend no matter what they do!
Jacks a W man and We all respect him for that and the fact that without hesitation after he saw it he stood up for the man CoryKension Love U jack
You're a great man Jack. Please continue to speak for small creators who haven't been given a voice.
I have this problem a lot too, gets annoying real fast because I just came back from a huge break, and now my new content is fine for a while, then gets flagged (WITHOUT A NOTIFICATION, so I literally have to check every single day) and the views just drop, which is really dangerous as I haven't been making content for months
CZcams needs to fix this, like actually :/
and the bots, theyre a different story..
yeah, i feel like they should at least give you a reason as to why they do the things they do but i think we all know why now..
ps, love your vids weegee
@@bonezxz the first issue is definitely the fact they say it's "manually reviewed"
Im ready to bet my LIMBS it is NOT, and that it's automated in some sort
and that might be why they don't say anything, they just won't bother :/
it sucks because then we have to complain, like we hate the platform, no, I absolutely love this platform, so please don't give me a reason to complain :(
Even luigi has an issue with youtube
I love how everyone is spreading the word about Cory's situation to get more people to know, and I doubt that CZcams is going to change anything but hopefully they do.
@fours04 🇬🇧 you are getting reported under SPAM.
@fours04 🇬🇧 imagine raging and crying about black people
@fours04 🇬🇧 ratio
@Kavetion no
x to doubt my dood
a year later, still a problem. i think youtubes algorithm has shifted to only shit all over smaller creators and people of minorities even more. atp this feels intentional, and it sucks
Good video jack thanks for posting this and standing up for Cory 👍
So far, all the mortuary assistant footage I did has NOT been age restricted or anything. But in the past week, I've been noticing uncharacteristically higher numbers of lost subscribers. Posted about it on twitter and huge numbers of people have been messaging me saying they were unsubbed my not only mine, but similar content creators they watch regularly.
Thank you for using your voice to speak out for all of us.
I literally watched all mark's mortuary assistant videos and now it's age restricted?? Even tho i already watched it and am a minor?? I was literally more disturbed by the first part which isn't age restricted, than the 3rd/4th part which are. I literally can't remember what they could've been restricted for, it was that impactfull and horrible😍
I remember when CZcams would unsub people, based on how often they visited your channel, years ago... I think that was around the time the algorithm stuff started.
This ... this is weird....
I am not a creator, but I am noticing that videos I have watched and have liked are showing up again on my feed without the like.
@@kthearcher3357 bro same!
I will oftentimes like videos and sub to content creators as a means of support --- basically saying "I like what you do, keep up the great work". It's completely uncool (unacceptable, even) for CZcams to control my account and unlike/unsub without my knowledge. That should not be allowed to happen.
I think the worst part about the whole CZcams situation is that there's no real way to protest this. Theres no real way to starve them of profit, which would be the most effective message to send.
@@benjaminramsey498 not giving a fuck is what got us here in the first place.
I hope CZcams gets they're income so low that the employees at the headquarters begin to starve and they're like. Oh how about if we actually go back to the old system
@ I don't see what's wrong with thinking CZcams is hopeless?
There is only 1 way.
A mass boycott of the majority of the creator community. It will only make a small 2% dent in their profits, but the defamation will not be good for their PR and a lot of sponsors/brands will pull away. They'll have to take action if not for their Profit, then for their Reputation
There is one way, but nobody considers it viable, because _technically_ it isn't. On its own, it's inefficient, non-viable, very much something that people will get arrested for. Done alongside a much bigger movement to end a lot of bad practices on the other hand? That's doable, and we'll see success. However the problem arises that not a lot of people sympathize with each other in the same way anymore. What I mean by that, is that turning a profit tends to take priority over the moral choice, and due to hundreds of years of systems that have indoctrinated people into thinking this way of living is viable, no-one really thinks of doing anything any more, as if it just isn't possible, or that it's wrong to try fighting for what's actually right.
My head hurts. Part of me's baffled we actually allowed this to happen, the other part understanding people are too easily manipulated by media, corporate and government control conspiracies. Even worse is, people that try explaining or exposing this often get pitted into the same hole as the real fringe and odd conspiracy theorists, which is only going to lead to further downfall.
Sorry for the textwalls. Have a good day.
Speaking on the mass-reporting of a CZcams channel, that happened recently with a channel I watch: "DissociaDID." Someone they had worked with wrongfully reported many videos claiming they have some ownership and it was just a mess. I would recommend watching the video DissociaDID posted for further explanation AND if you can support them (as they are in court with the man responsible for mass-reporting).
even tho this was 10 months ago, thank you for talking about this. legendary.
There's so many times I'm hesitant on playing a certain game, or reacting to certain videos. Because, of this exact issue right here. I'm so glad to see Cory and Jack speaking out on behalf of all creators... Large like them or smaller like me. It can only hopefully make the platform better for everyone.
Much love to you all, and especially Cory. I'm sorry they are treating you this way, it's extremely messed up.
You could say youtube is racist by allowing these disgusting bots spam up the site with this shit ^
@fours04 🇬🇧 you make me hate being British
@fours04 🇬🇧 That's not right
@fours04 🇬🇧 you’re disgusting
@@kevindjan7684 Just report bots. It helps them hide if you interact with them like a real person.
The fact they ignored that they practically MADE a kids version of youtube and still try to keep this one family friendly is real stupid
Ikr
so they went both versions to be kids version
FR
@@38achref26 pretty much and it’s stupid
Pretty much screams this: CZcams does not know what it's doing at all when it comes to ethics. Basically it's being lead by money and algorithms and not some kind of thought-out code.
Historically speaking, given that it is relatively new, and new tech tends to go through a 'okay this is unethical/getting people killed, time to reel it in to not suck so badly' period. Thinking of industrial revolution assembly line work conditions, or the shift from apothecaries to pharmacies type situations. Hopefully this is that period for CZcams.
They proving Cory right by banning Berleezy’s channel
Funnily enough, draconian flagging system in itself actually makes sense and youtube would be easily able to justify it if it wasn't for various inconsistencies in its behavior.
It’s refreshing to see youtubers talk about the issues on the site
Edit: about 90% of the replies to this comment so far are bots. You really can’t avoid the problems being talked about
Larger youtubers as well. I also love that under this comment the only 3 replies are me and then you have 3 braindead bots
@@l4g bro shut up
@UC9MpF8pwCjKfh8CQLI-YeMg No he doesn’t ☠️
bruh these bots are so shit lmaoo
@@l4g no
I feel so bad for Cory he doesn’t deserve this at all
I’m happy people are talking about this
@@l4g dONT TrANsYtIjehdpd
So many bots holy shit
@@sweetrocks610 I know they’re attacking me helpppppp
@@sweetrocks610 its sad
@@sweetrocks610 their so annoying. I wish they could sort it out. Its so fucking annoying
I'm doing an essay in ethics about your arguments about youtube. You really inspired me, Jack. Wish me luck!
I'm currently doing a college report on social platforms and their favoritism. I'm using this video as one of the references. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
The only consistent behavior at CZcams is that whenever they fuck up, it only gets corrected when a big creator points it out, and the fuck up is always an "error". They constantly apply their rules inconsistently, then treat any call-out of that unjust application like it's a one-time mistake, with no indication that they have any plans to fix the underlying problem
They definitely don’t have plans they’re a monopoly grown lazy. Why would they fix anything when there’s literally nowhere else to go. It’s surprising that youtube hasn’t been split by anti trust laws. The only other competitor in the same content type is Vimeo i geuss, and they’ve just been slowly dying.
Why would they? Their main goal is to increase income, the ads problems is an obvious evidence.
i disagree sometimes even when big creators do stuff youtube doesn't care, jack has been a big proponent against youtube and the removal of the dislike button, pewds also. and youtube just doesn't care.
CZcams has gone from the cool, fun platform to the bland, corporate platform that nobody can stand up to without being silenced
2011 youtube was so much better we didn't have to worry about some algorithm or worry about being demonized smh
You're mostly right but it's silly to expect anything different. That's how big businesses are, which is why if you want one to be more ethical there have to be regulations and unions, because a big corporation will never willingly value ethics over profit.
Not just CZcams, it's been something going on with all social media sites going corporate. And there's probably some inevitablity to it unfortunately, as having technology where people can connect to more people than any other time period would mean incentivizing the money-makers to be money-makers (just as railroads/locomotives, the European printing-press, and the Silk Road trade has done in the past).
I say it was when monetization of content happened…which won’t have been possible for CZcams if it didn’t have interesting content creators drawing people to the site…..
CZcams is bits the hand that feeds.
@@Scarshadow666 it’s sad, I remember the days when people made content for fun and art, now it all has to be copyrighted/monetized/algorithms
When I saw Cory’s video I thought it was stupid but when he explained it, it made so much sense
I dont think CZcams realizes that without the creators on THEIR platform, they would be nothing. So its mind boggling to see that CZcams is treating their creators horribly. Its so messed up. These creators spend their life working to make it to the top, just for CZcams to come in and shove them back to square one. It just makes no sense.
Cory doesn’t deserve to get treated this way by CZcams, they’re lucky to even have amazing people like him on the platform
straight fax.
Taking a break from depressing stuff. Are you excited to get back to the action in one piece.
They're lucky to even have a platform*
@Kavetion this isnt even Technoblades channel…
It’s a bot
CZcams: “We’re removing the dislike button.”
Community: “We don’t want that.”
CZcams: **Removes it anyways**
CZcams: “Keep content family friendly and don’t violate our rules.”
Also CZcams: **Allows ads that violate the same rules they tell content creators not to break**
CZcams: “Scams are not allowed on our platform.”
Also CZcams: **Allows scam bots to run rampant throughout the comment section**
CZcams: “We restricted your video.”
Creator: “Why?”
CZcams: **Refuses to elaborate**
Something needs to be done.
youtube would've been a utopia if they listened to their users
Facts man
@@theuniverse5311 That's how they started out, and even for a while after they got bought by Google they were still pretty good about that. Nowadays CZcams is just a monopoly and they can do whatever they want.
@@nophoto2393 it could be both, but this is the problem: we don't know. We're just in the dark and CZcams seems to be refusing to include the community (and its creators) in its growth.
Random, but I wonder if they removed the dislike button 'cause of their last few Rewinds LOL
heavy on the dislike button
Well said jack, much appreciated to see a heavy hitter stand up and say this is wrong. Drinks on me m8 cheers
First time on this channel and it's an instant subscribe. I'm impressed. Best of luck dealing with what's obviously a de facto monopoly being lazy at best and being malicious at worst.
CZcams is just being a nuisance at this point. However, I'm glad that the community is coming together to talk about this.
@Lucas Garcia Bullshit like this makes me lose faith in humanity
Who is doing these bots bruh
@Lucas Garcia tf
Comment section need a to ban all bots here , The sex bots, the “I’m better than this CZcamsr” bot, the “Claim your here within and out bots basically ALL bots need to be banned because I have been sending so many reports but CZcams does nothing about it
Why does the first thing he thinks of have to be that YT is racist though? It's the woke way of thinking that black people are immediately victims because of their race and race alone.
i’m glad cory spoke up for everyone. he’s such a good man and this is fucked up
These bots are ridiculous. I just want to hear other people's opinions without the comment section being spammed. CZcams needs to really step up their game in so many places.
@@coweyloaf yeah the bots are also out of control.
@@matthevanhouts2871 facts
Im jsut another bot 100% Don't sub to my 0 sub channel with no videos about bot stuff or anything
no joke dont sub -_-
The hell is what with this rape fad with the bots
Does youtube even look through these videos?
CZcams should add a feature inside of CZcams Studio that uses the same automated checking system to check videos before they're uploaded. And if there is a problem, it should give a time and a reason why
"They got caught with their pants down" I love how Cory still lightens up the mood in a serious moment he's a great dude
honestly, so underrated. He is such a gem in this world.
nah he playing the race card, the fact that dude had the nerve to call youtube 'racist' when they are the reason he's a millionaire, just from sitting on his ass playing a video game to entertain this brainless generation. these 1st world country problems are insane
Listening to Sean talk about how Evelynn gets flagged right away, and not his own I had this thought. They're letting the bigger creators go longer without restrictions and such because they're pulling more revenue and views for the site. And they will probably let it go altogether if no one says anything because money. I'm sure I'm not the only person to have this thought or come to this conclusion, youtube needs to be more fair regardless of views, because it hurts the site as a whole, smaller channels will struggle more because the aren't pulling the same numbers, and larger channel's validation of hard work gets dismissed because they are, not to mention in a world with so much division already do we really need it here as well, by showing bias for certain creators?
Yep. It's money. Cory presents no evidence that it is a racial issue. Just insists it is one.
Yeah, actually. Whomever can rake in more dough than a local bakery get more than "special treatment". Google/The CZcams Team ignore the users who make a ton of money for them or look the other way if certain things happen.
That's just my guess since.
@Necrotron Commenting Bro get a life.
Yeah i have been doing this for 8 years and I think a lot of things I see from smaller creators too and maybe something's for me has been maybe not really maybe have gotten push more out there or something else and it's been hard for me to do anything it use to be way different and a bit better back in 2016 and 17 I think
And I dont understand the system no more my friend only has 200 subs and he gets over 5k views and getting his videos push and I havent at all not which he doesnt know Ethier weird system I dont get it no more
CZcams has been playing favorites for a loooooong time. Hopefully this time something changes.
It’s not going to happen
you know it's serious when jack doesn't give his iconic introduction.