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  • Ask This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey explains how gas piping is installed in a home.
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    Skill Level: Expert - for licensed professionals only
    Steps:
    1. In general, residential houses start with 1” gas pipes at the gas meter and then branch out to smaller diameter pipes using T fittings as they reach their appliance destinations.
    2. To connect gas appliances to the main branch, there are gas pipes that come in a variety of lengths that you can piece together to reach each appliance. They are secured with pipe dope and gas fittings. Because of the way the threads work, piping always has to start at the source and work its way outward towards each appliance.
    3. It’s also possible to thread your own gas pipes at the exact length you need if you have a pipe threading tool.
    4. Before turning the gas back on, any professional will test for leaks by connecting a manometer to the pipes, locking in the air pressure, and waiting overnight to see if the pressure drops.
    5. If the new gas work passes the manometer, a soap test should also be done as the gas is turned back on. If the soap solution bubbles over any of the new work, that means there is a leak.
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    Richard emphasizes that only a licensed professional should work with gas. The materials they use for gas pipe fittings, including the pipes, nipples, and pipe dope, can be found at home centers and plumbing supply houses.
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Komentáře • 298

  • @melissacowan9463
    @melissacowan9463 Před 3 lety +48

    My 4 year old son faithfully watches your show! Richard is his favorite. His current favorite videos are any of the toilet repairs, gas line, hvac and leaky duct work. Richard, he doesn’t believe you’re real, he thinks you only exist on CZcams. Thanks for your clean, informative videos that provide great content for my little guy. Melissa from Wyoming

    • @charles9571
      @charles9571 Před rokem +4

      He watches it because you watch it because he's 4.

  • @2-old-Forthischet
    @2-old-Forthischet Před 5 lety +27

    About forty something years ago, I moved my gas fired water heater from inside the house to an outside heater closet. My then brother-in-law had a whole cart for making gas pipes including a manual thread making jig. Because money was tight back then, I did it myself by reading "how to" books (the internet wasn't born yet). That house is still standing by the way, after I sold it about 30 years ago.

  • @Danny-fs1hk
    @Danny-fs1hk Před 3 lety +7

    Richard is such a great teacher! Thanks for another very informative video.

  • @shortliner68
    @shortliner68 Před 4 lety +18

    Having enough volume and pressure being delivered to the appliance means everything with gas. Before I retired in 2016, I worked for the gas utility company in Baltimore. Sometimes we'd have a distribution problem when a large building converted from oil or coal to gas and a larger service pipe was tapped into the main to supply the new heating plant. Occasionally, there would be too much demand on the main between the new and existing customers when the new heating system would cut on and the main pressure would drop too low from insufficient gas volume. We'd then have to do a system reinforcement installation to boost the gas supply requiring either a larger main being laid for the new service or tapping a nearby higher pressure main and installing a pressure regulator station and back feed main tapped into the old main near the customer's service pipe. The same is true with a building having multiple gas appliances - you have to have the correct size pipe so that each appliance gets a sufficient supply of gas volume at the pressure required even when all the appliances are operating at the same time.

  • @williamwinder3466
    @williamwinder3466 Před 5 lety +3

    To seal gas fittings I use Leak Lock or Expado if the threads are messed up. Had tightened a 4" pipe with Expado with no problems.

  • @Andrew-py8wd
    @Andrew-py8wd Před 5 lety +165

    He keeps talking about "the old days" like we aren't still out here cutting and threading pipe. We only buy 21 foot sticks and nipple trays. More couplings = more potential leaks, more $$$ in fittings.

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety +10

      That was my first thought when he said "The old days"

    • @mattsnyder4754
      @mattsnyder4754 Před 5 lety +11

      If I had to guess, he chose to use the fitting route to make it seem as complicated as possible.
      This video is pretty obviously an attempt to talk people out of doing it themselves. That’s why there was no information about how to calculate proper sizing.

    • @moocowdad
      @moocowdad Před 5 lety +2

      really it is the old days here in Canada, everyone uses copper tubing and orange gas rated teflon tape for the copper connectors, but still prefer black pipe like I was showed 40 years ago.

    • @athhud
      @athhud Před 5 lety +17

      I’ll be damned if I am going to piece pipes together with various couplings to make a certain length of pipe. I have the most basic of ancient pipe threading tools, but I’ll hand thread before I install unnecessary fittings. I may not be a pro, but the shit is going to look professional if I do it.

    • @gasfitter78
      @gasfitter78 Před 5 lety +6

      In the UK we use mainly copper and solder fitting. Which mean the tightness test is done over a shorter time period. But it is fascinating to see how other countries do things

  • @chrisgoldbach4450
    @chrisgoldbach4450 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you guys. We need your teachings in schools.

  • @nsbyband5239
    @nsbyband5239 Před 5 lety

    Finally a video for gas lines i wish u would have talked more in depth and longer video tnx anyway

  • @user-tw6fb6yz4h
    @user-tw6fb6yz4h Před 3 lety +3

    This was funny on multiple levels good times.

  • @aerial9719
    @aerial9719 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I remember my dad having me use his manual pipe threader a number of times.....a few drops of oil every full turn and stop after so many threads shown out the end the threader...

  • @kingalphadogg
    @kingalphadogg Před 3 lety

    Great informative video! 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @chriswhite6882
    @chriswhite6882 Před 5 lety

    thanks for the video

  • @jimjordan5630
    @jimjordan5630 Před 5 lety +4

    I just replaced a faulty (as in old and frozen) cut off valve to a space heater. Installed new brass cut off and made up a manifold with nipples and tees for a pressure test port, try additional cut off valves and BIP to new space heater. Checked and no leaks. Everything works great. Ran out of pipe dope on the last three connections so I used some Bondo. Great stuff that Bondo! Really handy! LOL. Just kidding! Just thought I'd let a few heads explode! LOL

    • @LumenChaser
      @LumenChaser Před 5 lety +3

      jim jordan get rid of the part where you say you’re kidding and people will go mad 😂

  • @spreadcreekjr1731
    @spreadcreekjr1731 Před 5 lety +2

    I love this channel. Short, sweet, great info.

  • @jasonclark4561
    @jasonclark4561 Před 3 lety +1

    You should do a diy on how to cut in a lasco BLACK R&L NIPPLE,COUPLING and TEE for installation of a gas line addition on a pre-existing gas line in a homeowners home for maybe a natural gas or propane fireplace,bbq or even a laundry dryer gas line. Cutting in a R&L nipple and TEE on pre-existing gas lines doing remodeling can be daunting if you don't know how to make a job easier and more cost effective and their is no need to cut a lot of holes from one end of the house and removing pipe near the location your going to be adding a gas line addition in your home, you just cut a hole close to your remodeling location and cut in a R&L nipple, coupling and TEE also go over how adding a gas line can change you BTU's at your gas meter and make sure a license Plumber or contractor is using proper code for their City and state guidelines. 🤓

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna8347 Před rokem +1

    Richard is an expert in anything gassy.

  • @mcef9117
    @mcef9117 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @tj_gsomething_
    @tj_gsomething_ Před 5 lety +53

    Thanks for showing us what not to do unless we're licensed professionals.

  • @bkoz319
    @bkoz319 Před 5 lety

    nice vid thanks!!!

  • @joejr9653
    @joejr9653 Před 5 lety +36

    What old days, we still cut and thread gas pipe all the time. Also when checking for a leak use kids bubbles. They work better than solutions you buy from supply houses.

    • @garrettducat5769
      @garrettducat5769 Před 5 lety +6

      He's just showing that now there is an option to buy pre-made lengths. That's all.

    • @sigmauchiba4734
      @sigmauchiba4734 Před 5 měsíci

      @joejr9653 Yup my dad would just have a spray bottle of water mixed with soap and spray all the connections with it

    • @juniormint3136
      @juniormint3136 Před 4 měsíci

      I use a match, unless its a big weeper you'll just see a lil flame smaller than a candle, no big deal

  • @josephnorcalusa1710
    @josephnorcalusa1710 Před 5 lety +1

    Helpful information thank you for sharing !!

  • @ericneering6357
    @ericneering6357 Před 2 lety +2

    The old guys used to use a lighter and just look and see if I can eat and fire simple I still do it this way

  • @ianjamiesonmusic
    @ianjamiesonmusic Před 2 lety

    Nice one

  • @juniormint3136
    @juniormint3136 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gee Rich, in the old days the old timers didn't screw around with soap, they'd just use their torch flame to leak check, plus it would bake the dope in ensuring a leak free joint.

  • @levinef
    @levinef Před 5 lety +1

    Copper can be used (and generally) when a line has to Ron underground such as a slab. Connections CANNOT be soldered because of the Kaboom factor. You must use flared mechanical fittings which are expensive.

    • @zerodegrees8
      @zerodegrees8 Před 5 lety +2

      Clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

  • @ratchet219
    @ratchet219 Před 5 lety +3

    its cool but better to get longer solid pipe run and avoid unessasary fittings as more fittings could mean more failure points

  • @curiosity2314
    @curiosity2314 Před 5 lety +2

    Been my experience going to HD, lucky to find a person that can cut Gas or other pipe custom. Had to walk out one day because I was uncertain the threads were good. If you are going to thread it has to be correct. HD needs a dedicated person the the plumbing isle.! Make it so HD because it has to be So.. I have a clue the issue is that many walking into centers like these do not.

    • @spydergs07
      @spydergs07 Před 4 lety

      My local HD has a professional on staff who can cut pipe and thread it right there for you.

    • @richardcranium5839
      @richardcranium5839 Před 3 lety

      @@spydergs07 if they are a professional what are they doing working in a HD? they can make way more on the outside. those places call them professionals but most are not and the few that were i'd question

    • @Handygrrl
      @Handygrrl Před 3 lety

      All plumbing associates are trained to cut pipe. Associates in adjacent departments are also cross trained.

    • @curiosity2314
      @curiosity2314 Před 3 lety

      @@Handygrrl I appreciate the comment but cross training only goes so far. I'm running gas in a line, I need someone that knows that threading machine inside and out. The associate that I worked with as you said was trained but was not 100% comfortable with the task and rightly so. Some tasks in a home improvement store need a little more then cross training. It just is what it is and I know what to look for, for those that do not, it's an issue.

  • @condor5635
    @condor5635 Před rokem

    I want a tee right in the middle of a 18 inch straight section coming out of the ground (there’s an elbow and then it goes into the house). How do yo do that? Is there like a gas pipe union fitting?

  • @jayortiz8631
    @jayortiz8631 Před 3 lety

    Is it ok to use a strap wrench to tighten gas pipes or is it best to just use a pipe wrench

  • @rjserra2489
    @rjserra2489 Před 5 lety +9

    Would have been good if you had included left-right threaded coupling and nipple for modifying existing piping systems without having to disassemble everything.

    • @tcudahey9550
      @tcudahey9550 Před 2 lety +2

      Those may be prohibited in some areas.
      Check with the local authority having jurisdiction.

  • @ThePhilandPam
    @ThePhilandPam Před 5 lety +5

    Really interesting to see how decisions are made re sizes for the different applications in the US, great information and thanks for sharing 👍

    • @shahsmerdis
      @shahsmerdis Před 5 lety +2

      based on pipe size, length, and supply needed. engineer/plumber should size it, make a drawing with all the calculations and file it with city where it should get several checks. at least here in nyc they want you to be about the right size to make sure you don't add things after the fact. also safety, if there was a leak, you aren't bringing an unnecessarily large pipe for no reason.

  • @fernandamejia-salazar

    HI there. Is it ok to paint a gas pipe that runs from ouside into my kitchen ceiling onto the fireplace? It's black and made of metal, so I assume it's steel or black iron. I can see it and it does not look pretty! But I think painting it in white or silver will improve its look a lot. At least it will remove the nasty fingerprints it has from installation. Not sure if it's safe, if it needs a primer and what kind of paint to buy. I can't use spray paint as I do not want to paint the ceiling. Any tips would be truely apprecited.

  • @glocksantana853
    @glocksantana853 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the smell of burning pipe cutting oil in da morning

  • @SRFDriver
    @SRFDriver Před 3 lety

    I have a gas pipe that runs into my fireplace. Unfortunately it does not appear to be connected. I would like to find where the source side is either capped or turned off via a valve somewhere. The entire wall is brick and I have tried using my Walabot stud finder to trace the pipe, but without success. Is there a gas pipe locator device that I can rent somewhere to try and locate the place where the gas is turned off?

  • @billygoat4591
    @billygoat4591 Před 5 lety +12

    This cat is talking about the old days of cutting, threading pipe....there is a 2 year old Ridgid pipe cutter threader in our shop we use all the time. Buy the 21 ft sticks to save money, less fittings mean less chance of leaks. Lose those unnecessary couplings

  • @stuntz0rZ
    @stuntz0rZ Před rokem +2

    A pipe threading machine is only a few thousand in case anyone was wondering. My local home depot always says the machine they have in store is broken so I wouldn't rely on them too much.

    • @nheng6913
      @nheng6913 Před rokem +1

      I've found very poor skill levels at nearby Home Depot and Lowes stores. Look around and use USA pipe for gas. The tapered pipe thread needs to be correct because its fit is a large part of the gas sealing equation (along with your sealant).

    • @MotoEdde
      @MotoEdde Před 8 měsíci +1

      You can also thread the pipe by hand...i do it often enough because I don't feel like setting up the machine, vise etc.

  • @musoangelo
    @musoangelo Před 5 lety +1

    I know they try to keep these vids short but they didn't cover unions. Years ago when I did some remodeling, I used a union to connect to the existing gas piping and when the inspector saw it he failed it because local code (Oakland Ca.) doesn't allow unions but rather left, right couplings for that type of connection.

    • @ChrisGilliamOffGrid
      @ChrisGilliamOffGrid Před 5 lety +1

      That's nuts, a properly installed union is fine. At least I've never had a problem with one.

    • @richardcranium5839
      @richardcranium5839 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ChrisGilliamOffGrid remember he's from commiefornia. the state that causes cancer just by looking at it

  • @evanyoungworks
    @evanyoungworks Před 5 lety

    Great video! Not a lot of good resources on here for this topic. Three wrap tape + dope =winning connection. In hindsight, CSST would have been better due to the time to cut and thread everything.

    • @w0lf1969
      @w0lf1969 Před 5 lety

      I wouldn't use CSST in hen house

    • @emeralddragon2010
      @emeralddragon2010 Před 3 lety +1

      tape and dope is for people who dont get it. one or the other

    • @evanyoungworks
      @evanyoungworks Před 3 lety

      @@emeralddragon2010 Good to know. 2 years later, still no leaks.

  • @Ja2808R
    @Ja2808R Před 3 lety

    This is part of my job as a gas person. Propane.

  • @briandonovan6546
    @briandonovan6546 Před rokem

    I thought there'd be way more information haha. This is hardly scratching the surface.

  • @williamwinder3466
    @williamwinder3466 Před 5 lety +7

    One thing to note: The pipe size must accommodate the appliance BTU all the way back to the main gas meter NOT to the main trunk.

  • @user-hv1iw2xc9q
    @user-hv1iw2xc9q Před 9 dny

    Does it matter which pipe door you use on gas pipes? Does it have to be yellow?

  • @imteyazindian
    @imteyazindian Před rokem

    I am imteyaz from i am plumber technician nice video

  • @brianlmeigs
    @brianlmeigs Před 4 lety +2

    My home Depot has a threading machine right there, guy will cut to length and cut threads no extra cost

    • @wayneguy6043
      @wayneguy6043 Před 3 lety +1

      You can’t find help in my home depot…….good luck

  • @jordancook1668
    @jordancook1668 Před 6 měsíci +1

    “Gas should only be done by a licensed professional, so now I’m going to show you how to do it on CZcams.”

  • @seanthurman5482
    @seanthurman5482 Před rokem

    If anyone can answer.. he stated as you move through the house to each appliance the correct way is to drop the size of your pipe is that correct or should I stay with 1 inch pipe throughout

    • @oldtimefarmboy617
      @oldtimefarmboy617 Před 7 měsíci

      "If anyone can answer.. he stated as you move through the house to each appliance the correct way is to drop the size of your pipe is that correct or should I stay with 1 inch pipe throughout"
      The standard is to down size the diameter of the pip you use the further you get from the source because you will need less gas for appliances at the end of the run than you will in the middle.
      Example: if you have 6 appliances total and you need to supply gas to 4 appliances between the source and the middle of the run, you will need bigger diameter pipe to carry the gas flow for the first 4 than you will for he last 2.
      That being said, there is also nothing wrong with running the large diameter pipe from the source to the end. Then you can install a tee for each appliance and then use a bushing to reduce the diameter of the pipe to each appliance that will carry the amount of gas that appliance needs. It will cost a little more but you will save time by not needing to figure out what diameter of pipe to downsize to each time you attach another appliance to the supply pipe.

  • @felipe333
    @felipe333 Před 5 lety

    I liked that pump w manometer to test the pipes.

  • @mrsoccergod5001
    @mrsoccergod5001 Před 3 lety +2

    Can you use thread tape instead of the dope on the threads

    • @richardcranium5839
      @richardcranium5839 Před 3 lety +2

      only the type specifially approved for gas use. its not the white stuff

  • @gopiomraju9996
    @gopiomraju9996 Před 5 lety +5

    The fact that we are not teaching the newbies to properly thread pipe etc. needs to change. All of the new tech of press fit etc is perfectly fine and welcome, but, the art of pipe fitting needs to be maintained.

    • @nheng6913
      @nheng6913 Před rokem

      I'd like to see the press fit in 15, 20, 30 or more years. It's not made for that, So what, I'm supposed to re-pipe my home every twenty years. Time goes by fast. I don't like the distortion (i.e. stress points) imparted to the copper pipe with ProPress for instance.

  • @anjotre
    @anjotre Před 3 lety +6

    Always thought Richard looked like Paul Heyman

  • @brianwhitt5630
    @brianwhitt5630 Před 2 lety

    We still measure, cut, and thread pipe.

  • @bronz12
    @bronz12 Před 3 lety

    what about a length of pipe, where the pipe line have a leak in the middle, how do I work this pipe?

    • @markluni4234
      @markluni4234 Před 2 lety

      I suggest cutting out the leaking pipe, then replace it with 2 pieces and a union.

  • @fablan3308
    @fablan3308 Před 2 lety

    If I was to make a bigger gas burner for my barbecue like twice the size does that mean I would get twice the heat on my way Weber BBQ so I could make my own serious stashen

  • @miltonhurd1016
    @miltonhurd1016 Před 5 lety +1

    Just curious, what determines when to use a union rather a coupling?

    • @athhud
      @athhud Před 5 lety +1

      A union is used when you can’t thread “spin” the pipe into a coupling. The union only requires that you spin the nut rather than an entire section of pipe and everything attached to it.

    • @w0lf1969
      @w0lf1969 Před 5 lety +1

      Also by code a union can't be installed behind plaster or drywall unless you have an access door

    • @nastyhvacr
      @nastyhvacr Před 4 lety +2

      A coupling joins two sections of pipe together, and is not meant to be removed regularly. A union is a mechanical fitting that allows the appliance, regulator or valve to be serviced.

  • @robertkattner1997
    @robertkattner1997 Před 5 lety +1

    You need to check your codes, In Canada copper pipe was used for natual gas for decades. Easier to use, bend and make sure to use double flaired. Many many less fittings to leak. Get the point!

    • @spydergs07
      @spydergs07 Před 4 lety

      Copper can fail easier and is much easier to damage.
      We have houses 40+ years old whose gas lines have never once had an issue. My wife and my house is 59 years old and all of the steel gas lines still look and function perfect.
      Just had it pressure tested last year and it still works perfect

  • @monchateauamoi3641
    @monchateauamoi3641 Před 5 lety

    The greatest thing made is csst...not as many fittings and mess.

    • @monchateauamoi3641
      @monchateauamoi3641 Před 5 lety

      I keep forgetting I am in canada Ontario. Its highly used here and there have been no problems..I only use gastite as I read with trac pipe it's not as good...like anything proper installation is key

  • @2loco
    @2loco Před 5 lety +3

    It's very strange to see gal steel pipe still being used in modern times.
    We use copper or multi layer pex for gas in Australia.

    • @ChrisGilliamOffGrid
      @ChrisGilliamOffGrid Před 5 lety +1

      Galvanized is good stuff. Never seen a nail from a trim gun poke a hole in it yet...

    • @w0lf1969
      @w0lf1969 Před 5 lety

      What are you calling "pex"? Pex in the states is what plumbers use for water lines. If you're talking about CSST that stuff isn't worth running in a chicken coupe let alone inside a house or business

    • @spydergs07
      @spydergs07 Před 4 lety

      Steel pipe will last longer and isn't damaged as easy as copper pipes.

    • @MrPaulb1978
      @MrPaulb1978 Před 4 lety

      @@ChrisGilliamOffGrid who's putting nails so far through a floor/wall to penetrate in to hidden pipes/cables? Just a suggestion, but maybe only let professionals work in your property

    • @ChrisGilliamOffGrid
      @ChrisGilliamOffGrid Před 4 lety

      @@MrPaulb1978 I don't have that option. I'm just a plumber/handyman, the contractors will have his own electricians and carpenters on jobs where I don't do it all myself.

  • @tycox8704
    @tycox8704 Před 3 lety +2

    If “only a licensed professional” should work with black pipe (gas plumbing), why is TOH describing the process, and why are homeowners allowed to purchase the materials?

  • @DragonBuilds
    @DragonBuilds Před 5 lety +7

    Running gas line isn't that hard. I've done it myself before. I use black iron fittings indoors and galvanized pipe/fittings outdoors.

    • @richardcranium5839
      @richardcranium5839 Před 3 lety +1

      galvanized should not be used in gas applications. the odorant that makes gas smell like rotten eggs will react with the galvanizing and cause corrosion on the inside of the pipe that cant be seen till it leaks

    • @DragonBuilds
      @DragonBuilds Před 3 lety +2

      @@richardcranium5839 That is all the gas company does here in California and it it allowed by code. I only use galvanized outdoors.

    • @Shadowz196
      @Shadowz196 Před 2 lety +1

      @@richardcranium5839 that’s not true

  • @rahmath3305
    @rahmath3305 Před 9 měsíci

    We can use flex pipes these days!

  • @michaeltristan86
    @michaeltristan86 Před 2 lety

    Where do you get that pressure tester from?

    • @nheng6913
      @nheng6913 Před rokem

      He made it. Most big box home stores sell a pressure gauge (0 to 30psi is good) and a fitting with a Scrader (tire type) valve. The rest is up to you.

  • @rlund3
    @rlund3 Před 5 lety +19

    Not first. Interesting story. A friend, rental units owner and remodeler, almost killed himself. Working on pressurized gas, took a cap off, did not plug it right away, turned around and grabbed another fitting. Apparently it took longer than he expected. He made up the connection, then the gas settled to the water heater, whoosh, blew out a couple of windows and singed his eyebrows; he is bald. No real damage, so, he thinks it is funny.

    • @alexmakowski9620
      @alexmakowski9620 Před 5 lety +2

      Haha damn that's more ballsy than me. When I do my own work at least I make sure it's off first

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety +2

      Must have been LP (Propane) as it is heavier than air. Natural Gas is lighter than air and can fill the house. I think that is why you see more houses blown completely to pieces when there is a Natural Gas leak.

    • @xingjuchen4919
      @xingjuchen4919 Před 5 lety

      rlund3 👍

    • @williamwinder3466
      @williamwinder3466 Před 5 lety +9

      Your friend's an idiot.

    • @nsbyband5239
      @nsbyband5239 Před 5 lety

      What if u open the window?

  • @inspectorsteve2287
    @inspectorsteve2287 Před 5 lety +5

    If you do install your own gas line make sure you get a professional out to at least do a pressure test. It's done to make sure there are no leaks in the pipe connections. $80 bill is a lot better that $300+

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety +1

      Most gas companies will not make a connection to a new installation without first charging you to perform a leak test.

    • @inspectorsteve2287
      @inspectorsteve2287 Před 5 lety +2

      @@eosjoe565 I connected the main gas line myself after installing all the pipe. Before I did I called a licensed pro. Roto rooter to be exact. They did the pressure test then I hooked the gas up. Then I called the gas company to just turn on the gas. Which they did for free since I had a signed paper sayng I passed the pressure test. I think I got a cheaper deal than having the gas company do it.

    • @athhud
      @athhud Před 5 lety +3

      I can read a gauge. I’ll keep my $80...

    • @inspectorsteve2287
      @inspectorsteve2287 Před 5 lety

      @@athhud you can do whatever you want I don't care.

    • @athhud
      @athhud Před 5 lety

      Inspector Steve I apologize for the misunderstanding. Your comment came across in a way that indicated that you really do care.

  • @jdorffer
    @jdorffer Před 5 lety +9

    Pipe is still cut using that machine shown,

  • @qicoocooqi1026
    @qicoocooqi1026 Před rokem

    3:05 said we need to start from the source to the appliance. can i do the opposite? what is the down side for doing it so? I am adding a pipe for the cook top.

    • @2aminitials
      @2aminitials Před 5 měsíci

      If you started at the cooktop and worked towards the main you'd be fighting the threads at the last connection. As you tighten the pipe into the main it would unthread the previous connection. A union would take care of that problem but if you don't absolutely need a union don't install one, just start at the source as stated in the video.

    • @qicoocooqi1026
      @qicoocooqi1026 Před 5 měsíci

      @@2aminitialsif starting from the source then we can't do the pressure test anymore.

    • @2aminitials
      @2aminitials Před 5 měsíci

      @@qicoocooqi1026 If you have to do a pressure test with a gauge instead of a leak test with soap solution just shut off the gas cocks at each appliance that uses gas and shut off the gas meter.You'll probably need the gas company or a plumber to disconnect the meter and cap off the line coming into the house, or put your test gauge at that point. Disconnect any unions at the other appliances so if their gas cock leaks any air used for the pressure test won't stress the appliance's regulator.

  • @TONE51
    @TONE51 Před 5 lety +20

    I cut and thread pipe every day at work...

  • @Lazypostman
    @Lazypostman Před 5 lety +2

    why not copper/plastic/flexi? If it was this much work is Australia all the gas plumbers would quit as it would be to much work. Major gas lines are plastic, copper to the house, copper on the exterior of the house, plastic or copper in the house then flexi to the appliances.

    • @iLikeC00kieDough
      @iLikeC00kieDough Před 5 lety +1

      You use plastic gas lines in the house? That sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

  • @nastyhvacr
    @nastyhvacr Před 3 lety

    Way to simplify the work of a pipefitter.

  • @eosjoe565
    @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety +1

    It doesn't make sense to have all those unions on small sections of pipe when you could simply cut and thread the correct length of pipe. It also seems like it would really drive up the cost of the project. Short pieces of pre-threaded pipe are very expensive. I paid like $7.99 for a 4-foot piece and a 10-foot piece was $11.00. The 20-foot lengths sold by plumbing supply houses would reduce the per-foot cost even more. Not to mention the cost of all those nipples and unions.

    • @unst1tchabl3
      @unst1tchabl3 Před 5 lety

      That's how they make their $. Cost per fitting

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety

      @@unst1tchabl3 Apparently. :-)

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +1

      It was just an overview. I’m sure if he had a lot of real piping to do he would use 20’ lengths and cut and thread.

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety

      @@DONALD1951 Perhaps... but he clearly said "In the old days we used to have this machine..." and then showed the pipe threading machine followed by saying "Now days they have the pipes all available in pre-cut lengths". Clearly suggesting that they don't bother to cut pipes to the proper length anymore.

    • @LumenChaser
      @LumenChaser Před 5 lety

      you usually don’t bother cutting & threading pipe unless you’re doing long lengths like new construction, when putting in a new water heater or a new furnace you just do precut lengths it makes the job much quicker and easier

  • @Studio23Media
    @Studio23Media Před 5 lety +20

    Fun fact: these pipes are great to use on industrial or rustic looking furniture!

    • @wcvp
      @wcvp Před 5 lety +1

      I'm actually using a few for a massive projector screen lol

    • @Studio23Media
      @Studio23Media Před 5 lety +1

      Wesley Van Pelt I'm currently building a desk with them as the legs! I've also made a lamp out of them. Pretty handy for those of us who don't weld.

  • @Bigdaddyshaker
    @Bigdaddyshaker Před 3 lety

    Can I run a gas line vertically to the attic then horizontally to the back of my house then back down ? Or does a natural gas line need to be run on a downward slope as much as possible?

  • @oilhammer04
    @oilhammer04 Před rokem

    Why not CSST tubing?

  • @ericwotton2046
    @ericwotton2046 Před 5 lety +2

    Can you oversize gas pipes?

  • @Miasaint10
    @Miasaint10 Před 4 lety

    "Back in the day we used to thread."
    We still thread. Unless we are running CSST we are threading.

    • @Miasaint10
      @Miasaint10 Před 4 lety

      @Ryan Carlen We don't use mega press.

  • @Jg.Wentworth.877cashnow
    @Jg.Wentworth.877cashnow Před 5 lety +5

    WOW! I was able to watch a This Old House video without having to watch that stupid Leaf filter ad in the beginning for once!

  • @nancyhoffman4784
    @nancyhoffman4784 Před rokem

    How do you keep natural gas inside of a apartment complex from leaking gas ?

    • @nheng6913
      @nheng6913 Před rokem

      All piping and fittings must be of the right type and should be pressure tested and checked to code (this catches wrong materials, methods and future problems).

    • @nancyhoffman4784
      @nancyhoffman4784 Před rokem

      @@nheng6913 so it's like a double sword it's good and bad together?

  • @NickelSpeedShop
    @NickelSpeedShop Před 5 lety +98

    I am a “licensed professional” when it comes to natural gas. I cut and thread pipe, using a bunch of couplings is an amateur move.

    • @eosjoe565
      @eosjoe565 Před 5 lety +18

      Man, I was thinking the same thing but HEY these guys are supposed to be the experts. Those short sections of pre-threaded pipe are also quite expensive compared to the 2-foot lengths sold at supply houses. Then there are all the nipples and unions. In my mind every junction is just another potential leaking point.

    • @NickelSpeedShop
      @NickelSpeedShop Před 5 lety +13

      EOSJOE not to mention that each fitting has an assigned pipe length equivalent. Basically a 1” ell it equivalent to approximately 5ft of straight pipe due to turbulence created in the fitting, couplings are far less but still worth mentioning when being this precise. In my opinion a min of 1” should be ran as a main trunk and branches to appliances should be run in 3/4 right up to the fitting before the control valve which can reduce to 1/2” which is the standard inlet size for most appliances. This may be overkill but you would be surprised at how much money it can save you if you want to add another appliance in the future.

    • @Jimddddd1981
      @Jimddddd1981 Před 5 lety +19

      Pete's Garage who said anything about using “a bunch of couplings”? In his example he uses one coupling. If you’re plumbing an entire building, of course you would cut and thread pipe. But if you are doing a small job or a repair, there is nothing wrong with using a few couplings.

    • @robertsingleton1187
      @robertsingleton1187 Před 5 lety

      Yeah... haven't been able to thread my own pipe since the old days...like a half hour ago...guess ill be using all nipples and couplings tomorrow lol

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez Před 5 lety +9

      @@robertsingleton1187 Wow...you're just so professional, we're all really, really impressed...

  • @dieseldawg7132
    @dieseldawg7132 Před 3 lety

    You can’t reuse pipe for a water heater can you ?

  • @marty9660
    @marty9660 Před 5 lety

    Kevin O'Connor should have made a pot pipe and ask Richard Trethewey what is it.

  • @stuntz0rZ
    @stuntz0rZ Před 3 lety +5

    Richard forgot to mention that there are electric gas leak detectors that are more efficient than soapy water.

    • @jamesruppert3152
      @jamesruppert3152 Před 2 lety +2

      No they aren't. Lol you still have to find the fitting leaking to be able to address it. The soap exposes THE leak not a leak.

  • @ECarbonFiber
    @ECarbonFiber Před 3 lety

    The title should be how gas pipe is used, not how to work with it. I don’t see anything on assembly or torque, or applying thread sealant. Lay it on a table, and turn it on! Lol. I still love this show.

  • @sayayindog.3696
    @sayayindog.3696 Před 3 lety

    He forgot to say put Teflon an Gas sealer grease will last 100 sure will have no leaks at all

  • @XxxXxx-fm3wo
    @XxxXxx-fm3wo Před rokem

    Pipe dope is not really a sealent it is a lube first and for most to prevent the threading from "burning out" when fastned together and secondly dries and acts as a sealent of very minor potental spots that could leak natural gas. This is low pressure gas fitting.

    • @oldtimefarmboy617
      @oldtimefarmboy617 Před 7 měsíci

      Better safe than sorry. Sorry being even a small leak could result in your house blowing up if it is very air tight. Or paying more for the gas that leaks at best.

  • @coppelltvrepair
    @coppelltvrepair Před 2 lety +1

    If all gas lines must be done by a licensed plumber then what is the point of explaining how it is done?! Unless this video is for plumbers aspiring licensing. It was helpful, don;t get me wrong - I am thankful for it. I just do not see why should I be paying $4000 asked by a local plumber to run 50-60 ft. piping from a rooftop unit to the outside meter when I can do it just as well and then call them to run permitted pressure test for quarter of that price.

  • @javiergomez8711
    @javiergomez8711 Před 5 lety +4

    Hey guys thinking about Roger does anybody know

    • @thisoldhouse
      @thisoldhouse  Před 5 lety +5

      Thanks for asking! He's doing well, just taking it easy 😊

  • @frankieg3953
    @frankieg3953 Před 5 lety +1

    You should have shown a manifold.

  • @nheng6913
    @nheng6913 Před rokem +2

    Nice job Richard, always wished you were in our area. But "always use a licensed gas fitter" unfortunately is a license to steal. Yes there are fair and honest plumbing and heating contractors but I will not walk away with 100% margin on parts and $600 labor for say, changing out a simple water heater. And this license to steal is reinforced by codes in many areas (MA, are you listening) and even by supply houses. Especially today, people do not have unlimited resources and cannot blindly call a licensed contractor and pay fees and permits for menial tasks. That said, if you don't know gas code for your project, fittings and methods, call a pro. If you fear gas, it's ok. You should fear gas but I think many gas disasters you see were orchestrated by pros, either excavating or poor installation. Always leak test and always keep a clear head when working with it.

    • @Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb
      @Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb Před 7 měsíci

      _gas should always be done by a licensed professional_ is a CYA statement. you think this old house is trying to pay out every dingus that uses a brass y fitting, for water with little crappy valves, connected to some old PVC they jammed over it then used a copper elbow with a hose from a vacuum that is duct taped on it? no? it's almost like the production company knows what it is doing.
      so how about hiring Cousin Benson's buddy to run the pipe and it all looks tip top? but he is a barber, no license to lay pipe in your house. you have a little kablewy and suddenly the guest bed is in the neighbor's Lexus. i don't think the insurance company is giving the barber coverage in that situation, that's your responsibility to pay for a new Lexus, a new bed, a new guest bedroom, and a new gas line. man, it's almost like this 40+ year old show knows what they are talking about. in fact, it's almost like they have been making a show about renovation advice for years and they aren't reading your comment and thinking "shucks, why didn't we know that? let's hire that feller o'er there from the you tubes, when can do all of our jobs better and people really want tho hear information that was just repeated 65 times in the same place before they say it"

  • @leonk.1031
    @leonk.1031 Před 5 lety +4

    Is it possible that their videos are made in a studio not the old barn they show at the beginning

    • @joeybaseball7352
      @joeybaseball7352 Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah, it is in a studio. But it's not really important where they film it.

  • @ofthewoods137
    @ofthewoods137 Před 5 lety

    They scare me, gas piping. We have propane, that's what we chose over electric furnace. My wife wants to replace the electric stove with a propane gas stove.
    Thanks for the video.
    Matt

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +2

      Matt DuBois hire a pro. Get a propane top but electric oven.

    • @ofthewoods137
      @ofthewoods137 Před 5 lety

      @@DONALD1951 I never heard of those, thanks.

  • @mikeleach126
    @mikeleach126 Před 5 lety

    Can’t use a gas valve like that. Gotta use one that is tool free. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @vegasheat71
    @vegasheat71 Před rokem

    Why am I learning how to do this if I need a licensed professional for a install of 12 feet more? 🤔

    • @oldtimefarmboy617
      @oldtimefarmboy617 Před 7 měsíci

      "Why am I learning how to do this if I need a licensed professional for a install of 12 feet more? 🤔"
      Because that 12 feet or more could be running through the walls of your house, under the floor if it has a pier and beam foundation, or in the foundation if you have a slab-on-grade foundation and floor.
      So unless you want to tear out the wall or rip up the floor or crawl in the 12 to 18 inch space under your floor to replace that much gas line, a licensed professional might be worth the cost. Lots of nasty stuff between the floor and the ground under a pier and beam construction and the air is dank.
      If you are willing to do that, just do not let the government inspector hear what you are doing. In other words, do not tell your friends to brag about how good a job you did and how much money you saved doing it yourself.

  • @robfeeney4909
    @robfeeney4909 Před 4 lety

    theyre building a new house next to me right now. they are cutting pipe like they did in "the old days" today. usually like these guys. maybe he should stick to plumbing .

  • @unst1tchabl3
    @unst1tchabl3 Před 5 lety

    Why kind of manometer looks like a spring gauge? 🤔

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +1

      UNST1TCHABL3 It was an analog manometer.

    • @richardcranium5839
      @richardcranium5839 Před 3 lety

      his set up was a hand bulb air pump and a low pressure dial guage

  • @FrustratedBaboon
    @FrustratedBaboon Před 3 lety

    That goofy looking guy looks like Dan Quail LMAO!!!

  • @stewartrobinson7123
    @stewartrobinson7123 Před 3 lety

    LOL

  • @cantcurecancer
    @cantcurecancer Před 5 lety +1

    Don't really want anyone except professionals working on gas lines. But if your average weekend warrior is GOING to do it, best know how to do it as safely as possible. I just worry that uncle grandpa is gonna jerry-rig himself a house bomb after watching a video like this...

  • @herrickinman9303
    @herrickinman9303 Před 4 lety

    Size matters.

  • @FrustratedBaboon
    @FrustratedBaboon Před 3 lety +2

    If you have to make a million couplings you are going to have a higher chance of leaking.

  • @danschenck9442
    @danschenck9442 Před 3 lety

    old school plumber did gas pipe for s shop i worked foe not only did he use pipe dope ,,he slso wrapped string aeound threads then pipe dupe, pressure checked with old pressure site guage,left it for week ,,the ball in guagued never moved a mill on guage,,Said guarreentee will not leak ever 20 years later, had new license plumber ,, hook up a new extended line for spray booth, every joint leaked..Called old school plumber back,, he taught young plumber old trick

  • @jsmgaming1062
    @jsmgaming1062 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the type of guy that needs a bucket of steam