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Komentáře • 191

  • @skillcapped
    @skillcapped  Před 2 lety +7

    UNCOVER the SECRETS to CARRYING SOLO QUEUE at www.skill-capped.com/lol

  • @jenjuni_
    @jenjuni_ Před 2 lety +54

    “You cannot play the same style every game consistently and expect to climb”. Love that statement. Thanks for the content! 💯

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 Před 2 lety +13

      Also skillcapped: push to win every game 🌝

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 2 lety +2

      I'm on a pretty healthy winrate, climbing, with sivir. just spamming my Q off cooldown into the wave and into enemy adc/sup.... shove like theres no tomorrow with sivir and its hard to lose tbh. the damage is insane, the range is unexpected, and people seem to forget the boomerang comes back just ater taking half their hp bar 0.2 seconds ago on the way in lol

    • @jenjuni_
      @jenjuni_ Před 2 lety +3

      @@kosmique shhh shhhh, before Riot sees this and nerfs Sivir’s Q. I went 13/2/14 with Sivir. Her kit is disgustingly fun to play. By far one of my favorite ADC’s to play.

    • @jenjuni_
      @jenjuni_ Před 2 lety +1

      @@fengliu975 right 😂

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety +3

      This video is pretty misleading though with it's argument and examples. Yes you should make adaptations from game to game but for example the first clip they showed of the xayah rakan vs lucian sona was literally just rakan griefing thinking he's somehow going to kill the lucian with heal and sona with exhaust walking past the minion wave. I agree with his point that you should adapt to your support's playstyle but saying "don't go X build/runes on a champ because your support may just run it down lvl 1 instead of backing off after a good trade and him landing the W knockup" is just nonsense. Literally instead of not going a build you can communicate and ping your aery and even type "I am lethality/poke xayah" and let them know.

  • @at-vl7ir
    @at-vl7ir Před 2 lety +17

    5:16 Hope they make that an ezreal taunt ingame

  • @akaTheWhiteWolf
    @akaTheWhiteWolf Před 2 lety +42

    THIS IS THE CONTENT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SO LONG

  • @Rafix
    @Rafix Před 2 lety +16

    I play support, main rakan specifically, and several videos from this channel helped me, but this specific video was certainly one of the most important, even as a support it's good to learn this, thank you

  • @remoover5420
    @remoover5420 Před 2 lety +46

    Interesting vid
    I'm a support and I usually drag my adc along into engagements, which usually work out with one or two kills.
    Suppose this can give me another thing to consider when picking Leona. Not as much of a problem on Pyke though since the enemy is the one who gets displaced.

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 Před 2 lety +5

      the issue with leona is that she can engage anytime she wants where as the hook champs have to beable to lane hook which usually falls into the good circumstances for a play

    • @dbteepo86
      @dbteepo86 Před 2 lety +4

      Just because the support wants to tank the entire wave doesn't mean the adc wants to once the supp has chased enemy halfway down the lane.

    • @AlbinosaurusR3X
      @AlbinosaurusR3X Před 2 lety

      @@dbteepo86
      If that's the adc's attitude, they are too lazy for the role--maybe the game in general.

    • @dbteepo86
      @dbteepo86 Před 2 lety

      @@AlbinosaurusR3X the supports job is more than just heal adc, poke enemy champions, win fights.

    • @AlbinosaurusR3X
      @AlbinosaurusR3X Před 2 lety

      @@dbteepo86
      You completely missed my point... I played A TON of support when I used to play this game. I'm fully aware of what their job entails. I'm talking about an adc who is too lazy to chase is an adc who shouldn't play adc. If it's a bad play, that's one thing, but just because it's "half way down the lane" is no excuse.

  • @Dazai_861
    @Dazai_861 Před 2 lety +5

    1:30 yes, I can. She queued into bot lane or didn't dodge when she got it

  • @ohxci
    @ohxci Před 2 lety +2

    0:50 ah yes xin zhao my favourite adc

  • @randombob3837
    @randombob3837 Před 2 lety +2

    It's the other way around, too. "You pick XYZ, so you HAVE to go in/win everything..."
    And at the end, the ADC doesn't even ask or say "Hey, let's wait until lvl X" or "Let them push" or else... it's hard to read their thoughts.
    One short note or a ping can help here a lot!

  • @GigaLigma
    @GigaLigma Před 2 lety +3

    This should be listed as a general bot lane guide, considering the advice here goes both ways. I play fill and one thing I've learned about bot lane is your partner will rarely have the same game plan as you, regardless of whether you're the adc or support.

  • @wzt9376
    @wzt9376 Před 2 lety +3

    Support here and really liked this video. Since watching you guys I have paid way more attention to my partner/his champion select and also playing around him meaning reading him not only on Champ select but also in lane. It gets frustrating when adcs seems to want to do their thing but it's fine as long as they have a plan unfortunately in most cases there is no plan 😕 😔 😢 love bot lane because it is one of the most rewarding when done well. Anyway good to see this video really helpful.

  • @chuchinhquyen
    @chuchinhquyen Před 2 lety +4

    the more problem revealed, the more I love to play aram
    damn, aram is so chilling to play

  • @burhanerginn
    @burhanerginn Před 2 lety +7

    The problem is Blitzgg app. People don’t know anything about runes, matchup, character analyses etc. They just auto build everygame

    • @BBBrasil
      @BBBrasil Před 2 lety +3

      The real problem is that people don't communicate. We could use the 30 seconds on chat to coordinate, but we don't.
      "Hey, I am engage support, can you let them push into our turret and freeze there?" Or,
      "Hey, I am planning to only poke them, can we play around this tactics?"

    • @burhanerginn
      @burhanerginn Před 2 lety

      @@BBBrasil Thats why soloq is shit

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 2 lety +2

      @@BBBrasil the real problem is, if you ask or say something like that, you will just get a "stfu".
      or people won't say anything, but then when you die its something like "omg noob acting so pro", or "so much for your stupid ideas" ... you just cant talk with peope in this game. best is mute all and ego mode

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

      I wouldn't say the problem is blitz or any other league app. The issue is HOW people use those apps. They actually do provide good info if you use them as a tool and not a crutch. Most people do the latter and just auto import runes, summoners, items, etc. so they don't have to actually think. They're likely "lazy gamers" and when provided something that allows them to think less they will jump at it immediately. I use blitz/UGG but I use it to view my winrates, cs averages, KP, gold difference @ 15, etc. It's actually useful information that I take in and has helped me learn and refocus in my games where after awhile I might start slacking on X thing and need to make a more conscious effort to do that thing. So these apps aren't a bad thing, it's just like any learning tool that makes things incredibly easy and accessible. You end up with two types of people: Those who use it as a tool to memorize and improve their thought processes and decision making so they can become better and work towards becoming self reliant and then you have people who say "Sweet! Runes and match ups always confuse me, here's this app that tells me all this info so I don't have to memorize it myself!"

  • @SinWuu
    @SinWuu Před 2 lety +2

    I'm a support main who play almost every support champion, even off-meta and these ADC behaviors triggered me so bad, especially the Pantheon part

  • @LlibertarianGalt
    @LlibertarianGalt Před 2 lety +8

    Id really suggest to anyone who can afford it, buy an hour with a coach who will review your gameplay who is atleast GM and get them to talk to you about how you can improve your laning.
    I got Hmmer to coach me a few years ago and it changed my gameplay massively.

    • @BBBrasil
      @BBBrasil Před 2 lety

      SC has a lfg group in its discord channel.
      It could be amazing to hook up with ppl there and play together over the last video tips.
      But the general chat is the only active group, nothing to do with the supposed SC business model. Edit: SC moderators don't promote lfg.
      It is as if SC real business is to use their platform to sell coaching. I will not pay them even more for that.

  • @riverfu889
    @riverfu889 Před 2 lety

    6:27 That Lulu laugh really got me

  • @Pyrrha_Nikos
    @Pyrrha_Nikos Před 2 lety +2

    Meanwhile I get the Leona playing 6 screens behind me and the Yuumi that tries to fight 2v2 vs Draven+Pantheon

  • @jh_esports
    @jh_esports Před 2 lety

    As a stereotype „We dive at 2“ engage support player, this was actually really helpful!

  • @mynameiswambo
    @mynameiswambo Před 2 lety

    Great content. I really appreciate your channel, has helped me improve a lot!

  • @throwscats
    @throwscats Před 2 lety

    I really liked this video. It's not a mechanics or even a strategy thing, but I think it's so important for people to hear that bot lane success is, at least in part, just straight up team work. There's definitely something to be said about trying to sync up with your duo--kind of the point of wanting to play bot lane, imo, but a lot of League players don't get that fsr.

  • @Starscall
    @Starscall Před 2 lety

    As someone who plays both ADC and support, this was a very interesting video. Thanks Skill Capped!

  • @TheGodRaphael
    @TheGodRaphael Před 2 lety +1

    I love your vids guys.. So helpful.. Thank you

  • @deathtoexistance
    @deathtoexistance Před 2 lety +2

    I will say I feel like this is also down to the enemy champs. Personally I have had this sort of situation, playing xayah with rakan. In chamo select I thought I'll go crit lethal tempo to match the all in and if rakan just fights level 1 with me we can win with the shared xayah w. Then guess what? He just sat afk for 6 levels and we lost automatically. If I had gone the poke build, as this was a time the poke lethality was better than crit, and in that game they didn't have sustain and had heavy all in. In that game I could've had more impact by poking the enemy since my support didn't do what I expected they would. In the first game of this video the enemy support is sona, who counters poke as a sustain champion. Personally I think playing around how you can abuse enemy champions is better than synergisting with your support, because imo it's just as common that your support doesn't do what their champion is good at as it I they do what they are good at, and the same is true for the enemies.

  • @fabioiervolino3071
    @fabioiervolino3071 Před 2 lety +1

    As a silver support main I can confirm my brain goes into troll mode when I see an adc out of position, that was so funny

  • @7ANKOUCH
    @7ANKOUCH Před 2 lety +2

    0:49 i consider xin an adc too XD . Jokes aside i actually play em bot with jarvan . They r so deadly with 0 counterplay early

    • @dbteepo86
      @dbteepo86 Před 2 lety +1

      I bet he does well against Sivir, she's immobile with no cc.

  • @ysoholinav8315
    @ysoholinav8315 Před 2 lety

    Every adcs were waiting for this for so long! Ty

  • @Siinory
    @Siinory Před 2 lety

    This may be the reason why I get support that doesn't do anything sometimes. Or like a Pyke at lv1 who grabbed the enemy while I was 1 auto away from lv2 for both of us and with E on CD with Miss Fortune, we lost that interaction, hard. And honestly on the first clip the Xayah isn't to blame, after the trade she visibly backed and then Rakan initiated

  • @Tearnor
    @Tearnor Před 2 lety

    Amazing video, the one which I love the most - not WHAT to think but HOW to think

  • @FunkyCooch
    @FunkyCooch Před 2 lety +1

    Sooo what if the support decides to be out of lane often? I’ve had lane partners that seem to constantly roam pre-6 while I try to survive and stall waves so they don’t fall far behind

  • @E621_Rule34
    @E621_Rule34 Před 2 lety

    ngl ezreal irl actually does a good troll impression

  • @paulorobertomelo9113
    @paulorobertomelo9113 Před 2 lety

    I always adapt to my sup's play style but sometimes it is impossible to do so. Once I picked Ziggs as adc because the match up was good for it. My sup picked after me and got a Nautilus. He did lots of all-in and never desengaged after I used all of my abilities and got all on CD. Because of that, he died a lot of times and still pinged me...

  • @johns.9527
    @johns.9527 Před 2 lety

    Xayah: sees yesterdays video saying to get push advantage and tries it
    Panth supp: I’m bored

  • @deadfish45films
    @deadfish45films Před 2 lety

    Last game, my Zyra only landed 2 roots in the whole laning phase against a constantly over extended Kalista. Damn was that frustrating.

  • @FluttershyIsAGoddess
    @FluttershyIsAGoddess Před 2 lety

    I'm pretty sure I pick Kog'Maw just to hear him say "KEEP COMING, NOT FULL!" And his battle charge song. LOL

  • @adrianbyg5553
    @adrianbyg5553 Před 2 lety +1

    Thx Ezreal for the tips :)

  • @mohamedmohamedabdallah13

    very very good video ty

  • @anashallaoui3989
    @anashallaoui3989 Před 2 lety

    It's a bit hard to get these things..i can know what my support is good at but adapting my items can be hard

  • @drakonli
    @drakonli Před 9 měsíci +1

    3:56 So you're telling me that if she had initiated with rakan Lucian wouldn't be dead ?:D

  • @shikikankillzone4239
    @shikikankillzone4239 Před 2 lety

    My ADC Varus: _"I'm running a poke build and runes, why'd you pick Nautilus"_
    Me: *_"Nah, don't worry, I'll do all the damage, CCing and tanking. You just pretend the enemies are minions and last-hit them when they're low"_*

  • @crownjax
    @crownjax Před 2 lety

    Bring it on.! We are here again and again.!

  • @Sp00pyEevee
    @Sp00pyEevee Před 11 měsíci

    What do you do when your support is legitimately a troll though? I had a Bard a few games ago that would ult enemy champs when they got low and actively prevented me from getting kills. What can I even do there? It’s like being trapped in your lane.

  • @rickardofelipe
    @rickardofelipe Před 2 lety

    " for every adc", sees xin zhao in the frame

  • @GrallariculaNana
    @GrallariculaNana Před 2 lety +1

    OK, this applies to supports that play accordingly to their champion. Now what do I do when I am playing Samira and my Leona is behind me pinging me to run away? 🥴

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

      Just providing what you said leaves out a lot of context. Not saying the leona is right to ping back and playing passive but a possible reason is that the enemy JG or mid is roaming or is likely on their way bot after reset and she's trying to get you not to take trades and fights while they are either on their way or nearby.

  • @jessetatum6757
    @jessetatum6757 Před 2 lety

    I just played with a Dark Harvest Heimer support that built GA first and went 0-4 before 10 minutes

  • @OnlyOneElton
    @OnlyOneElton Před 2 lety +1

    Clearly
    Lulu: me polymorph champ, enemy behind minions me go in polymorph.

  • @mrskull6216
    @mrskull6216 Před 2 lety

    that still doesnt explain why my leona wants to towerdive at level 2 without minions

  • @Shamnolya
    @Shamnolya Před 2 lety

    i play a lot with rakan and i had no clue "poke build" is actually a thing, not a single ADC explain this to me (much easier to blame and get muted) Ty for the video, i was probably doing the same mistake >< I'm aware of the issue now

  • @elbenjas4003
    @elbenjas4003 Před 2 lety +1

    I think the Xayah coulda flashed and finished off the kill on the lucian tho

  • @joshuamak9930
    @joshuamak9930 Před rokem

    Play around my team mates boredom levels, gotcha!

  • @lironr10
    @lironr10 Před 2 lety +1

    7:10
    This
    Omg i get ptsd from it
    Literally trigers me so badly and is the reason i do "wrong stuff" good calls but i go in first (most of the time samira) then sup does not follow up and calls you brain dead
    Like when i see it i can control myself and i go in even when i know the sup isnt gonna follow up
    Sag but nice guide i needed to hear this

    • @BBBrasil
      @BBBrasil Před 2 lety

      I disagree.
      Lulu was moving forward when Xayah decided to walk backwards, Lulu just followed, that is clear.
      I use to play Lulu, that Xayah is playing against an engaging support and is pushing, I would play along with that.
      But that means to use a ward against ganking and I don't see them using it.

    • @lironr10
      @lironr10 Před 2 lety

      @@BBBrasil i don't see a world where they get ganked
      Like i don't want the Lulu to flash and try to all in him
      But with this huge wave just step up if this jhin is stupid and the minions will win the fight
      It wouldn't be a kill but a good chunk of hp gone
      It's the sutle thing's
      If in this situation they get ganked if they stay in wave they win the 2v3 becuase they are under tower with full sums

  • @brauliocruz6088
    @brauliocruz6088 Před 2 lety

    0:49 xin zhao adc BigBrother

  • @edde2429
    @edde2429 Před 2 lety

    The sneaky Xin botlane

  • @pronarux7544
    @pronarux7544 Před 2 lety

    as a main support i can say that i am that class of braindead engage support that throw his Q to any enemy that is in the front of the minions,i didnt analize the runes of my adc or the waves of the minions,even if i dont play adc a lot,this video has work a lot with me

  • @adrianw519
    @adrianw519 Před 2 lety +1

    0:50 xin zhao ADC meta?

  • @zola7352
    @zola7352 Před 2 lety

    I main support and actually I'm always picking support that will be best for my adc champ, build and his playstyle. Even asking some questions in champ select, cause I know that they don't think about that things at all...

  • @georgeplakojohn7534
    @georgeplakojohn7534 Před 2 lety

    When u have a bad support, is it wrong to get lvl2 boots and roam mid a lot to get them ahead. Shove your wave, roam mid, wave bounces back, you collect it then repeat? I find that you don't fall behind much in gold or cs in silver-gold elo and since games don't last long, often a midlaner that is ahead is more crucial.

    • @scottgill2643
      @scottgill2643 Před 2 lety

      The problem I find is that the number one thing done by the lane with superior push power is to constantly ram waves into turret. It keeps priority semi-favorable for your lane, but it often forces EVERYONE to stay in lane for that sweet goldXP.
      This is particularly why I've been very happy spamming Fiddlesticks support: I steal procs of spellthief until I'm lvl 6, and then start looking for the plays. If we happen to have a jungler who wants to gank for us, then Fiddle can help with that. The only counter to Fiddle is vision, and lots of it.

    • @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
      @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw Před 2 lety

      That sounds horrible in general because leaving your support alone means they can't finish their income item upgrades which means slower to get your team extra wards and slower for them to get max value in stats out of their 400 gold item. I see a lot of bottom lane players spending too much time trying to help jungle when they are doing just fine without help and can escape but they force the jungle to feel obligated to fight and it ends up in disaster for 4/5 of the team.

  • @powerbee5305
    @powerbee5305 Před 2 lety

    Finally a Xayah video

  • @hamzakuzucan5368
    @hamzakuzucan5368 Před 2 lety

    3:50 "MY ADC TRADE ENEMY BAD POSİTİON MEE PRESS W"

  • @felipdn3329
    @felipdn3329 Před rokem

    watched this video and agreed with the logic. then my next game i got a passive blitzcrank player

  • @kevinstobbs9134
    @kevinstobbs9134 Před 2 lety

    Why do you do this? You're a menace to society uploading this kinda quality content without some kind of addixtion warning. I have work tomorrow and I'm binging your content at 4am.

  • @yungslack7311
    @yungslack7311 Před 8 dny

    1:40 as soon as I saw the Aery comment I dipped out
    you know nothing

  • @BVDtwentyseven
    @BVDtwentyseven Před 2 lety +8

    I main ADC. Think im pretty allright with the cs/wave control and looking for when to fight. This week i played Ezreal with a Nami support. Nami went fighting at level 1, while i just wanted to kill the minions to get level 2 first and then try to poke / go in. Ending up in a dead for Nami, and she is blaming me, saying im blind and asking why i don't go in, in caps :). I mean.. what do you expect. Watch the goddamn wave. We were at a minion disadvantage which i wanted to turn around. Then she does it two more times.... :):). Ended up in winning the game tho, gladly, but things like this just suck..

    • @flashrunner2689
      @flashrunner2689 Před 2 lety +2

      Nami.....went fighting at level 1? I think there playing the wrong champs

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 Před 2 lety

      @@flashrunner2689 the ultra aggro enchanters man... like one of those barking chiwawas....

    • @dbteepo86
      @dbteepo86 Před 2 lety

      Why pick a poke lane comp and try to all in before chunking enemy down.

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

      I STRONGLY recommend disabling both /All chat and Allied chat in settings. 99% of the time it's just a distraction and no one ever types anything of value like strategizing. All the info you need in league can be gained through better map awareness, understanding of jungle pathing (where they started), and pings.
      Ezreal is a great champ to main and play a lot of in solo queue though. Very reliable, consistent, and self sufficient ADC. The only thing I would tell you is to ping more in situations like that. Yes it won't always get them to listen, but the point is you need to accept the reality that bot lane is two random strangers playing a coop game together where the ability to "win" depends on their ability to communicate and work together. In your example if you notice you are at a minion disadvantage before the 2nd wave, just danger ping the wave and position more defensively. Let the wave come to you and respect the level 2 of the enemy. Smart usage of pings can telegraph to your support what your intentions are in any situation and let them know what you want to do. That's why so many low elo ADCs have problems in lane. They don't ping what their intent is enough. Are you trying to fast push on the 3rd wave to get a free reset? Spam the assistance ping on the wave to try and get your support to help fast push the wave. Are you trying to freeze and keep the wave on your side because you know the enemy JG is bot side or will be? Spam the danger ping on the wave a few times and press tab and ping the enemy JG. Doing things like this is the best way to communicate to your support what your intentions are and what you are looking to do. You can't just sit there and expect other players to be on the same page even if it seems "so obvious that Shaco was going to be bot side" the only way you'll see changes in their behavior is by pinging smartly and proactively to let your support know what your game plan is at that point in time.

  • @CarlosPerez-hl6hc
    @CarlosPerez-hl6hc Před 2 lety

    And what do i do when i get an ahri "support" that pushes on the wave with her "poke"? Or when the cho jungle doesnt take smite, on purpose, and goes top to screw the lane? That happened to me today in the span of 9 games. And its silver 2, sure, its trashlo, but it still isnt iron. Supposedly.

  • @heyiwasntdone4135
    @heyiwasntdone4135 Před 2 lety

    As a jhin main, I'm in heaven when I get a Rakan support.

  • @SasNolan
    @SasNolan Před 2 lety

    I need tips to lane with braindead ADC

  • @Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm
    @Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm Před 9 měsíci +1

    braindead? my support fed 3 times, enemy jinx got a mythic at like 10 minutes

  • @lionart5230
    @lionart5230 Před 2 lety

    Oh great, so if I want to win I need to adapt to guy who is playing incorrectly, don't really supports me and ints. Great advice!

  • @onixtheone
    @onixtheone Před 2 lety

    80% of my games I get supports that play lux, zyra, senna, etc like if they were alistar or Rakan

  • @Lamb666
    @Lamb666 Před 2 lety +3

    When your support isn’t the homunculus known as Tyler1.

    • @CitriReg
      @CitriReg Před 2 lety

      bro blitzed through your elo no doubt

  • @Makkle4000
    @Makkle4000 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Ezreal

  • @gregorian323
    @gregorian323 Před 2 lety +1

    thanks, ezreal

  • @shadows_star
    @shadows_star Před 2 lety

    How do I do wave management when every single support perma shoves my lane? Can't exactly control my wave if they're constantly hitting every minion.
    Also completely lost me when he said Draven was an extremely popular champion in low elo. Haven't seen a draven in almost a whole season.
    Finally, as he starts to suggest that the builds were wrong to go Poke Xayah, I think he fails to recognize that Xayah has such a short auto range that if she goes the poke build so she can have an impact when her team can't allow her to safely get autos in on a team that has much bigger pressure in that space. For example, to get into auto range on a leona jinx matchup, she'd need to walk past leona to hit jinx which is ultimately not going to be feasibly through the whole game. Thus, you get infinitely more out of aery build than lethal because often people don't build their comps allowing you to do things. Maybe lethal would have helped in that trade, but it'd lose you the game because the lane isn't a vacuum.

  • @sibusisolanga2393
    @sibusisolanga2393 Před 2 lety +1

    As a Leona main that last example hit way too close to home. The only ADC I understand is Tristana cause she passively shoves due to her E but there really is no excuse for ADCs auto shoving waves all the time. Especially since I politely ask them to let the wave shove so we can look for a kill at level too and hopefully not take too much poke. THEY THEN PROCEED TO CRASH THE FIRST WAVE 😒

    • @nightmarehellfire
      @nightmarehellfire Před 2 lety

      EXACTLY UGHHH

    • @meisterlampe533
      @meisterlampe533 Před 2 lety +4

      Meanwhile supports using all their relic stacks on the first wave

    • @nightmarehellfire
      @nightmarehellfire Před 2 lety

      @@meisterlampe533 well these are just shooting themselves in their own knees

    • @sibusisolanga2393
      @sibusisolanga2393 Před 2 lety +2

      @@meisterlampe533 yeah! As an ADC I hate when I want to slow push but my Pyke doesn't think about saving relic stacks to fast shove get level 2 and try go for a big play before they can react lmao. Guess there's 2 sides to the story after all

    • @chuchinhquyen
      @chuchinhquyen Před 2 lety

      that's how teamwork supposed to be

  • @epikoperfectnoob6408
    @epikoperfectnoob6408 Před 2 lety

    And now big secret boys, it works both ways.

  • @Rishkar-Peema-Pants
    @Rishkar-Peema-Pants Před 2 lety

    Now we need
    How to lane with brain dead ADCs

  • @ggMrkew
    @ggMrkew Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can i please get new guide, how to play with inting support, who is stealing my minions, kills, tower diving for fun.... I really need to know, beacouse iam playing with supports like that every single gasme.(most of the time, they are playing lux and xerath..), Thanks

  • @Djwheels17
    @Djwheels17 Před 29 dny

    My supports just last yo and push wave in while stealing my double kills and letting enemy adc tk kill them starting the snowball every game

  • @brianmellema109
    @brianmellema109 Před 2 lety

    I really want to see you guys do a video specifically talking about how to lane with a Yuumi. Why? Because Yuumi is just so bad to lane with.

  • @nightwing09x
    @nightwing09x Před rokem

    i loved this vid

  • @paulradovich7526
    @paulradovich7526 Před 2 lety +2

    Hopefully you make a video on how to support "THAT" cause as a support main, some days I swear the entire ADC pool is playing with their feet and their monitor off.

  • @rafaelmorales1926
    @rafaelmorales1926 Před 2 lety +1

    The SECRET to LANING with a BRAINDEAD support: Stop being braindead yourself lmfao
    Unironically good guide, thanks!

  • @teitonii
    @teitonii Před 2 lety

    good video admitting that 99% of support mains even up to masters are babies and have no idea how to play the game. 10/10

  • @mido3071
    @mido3071 Před 2 lety

    Such video is really useful even for supports.
    I remember once I was playing thresh with a tristana who kept the wave pushed to tower for a long time ... she was ahead in cs and we were taking tower plates since the enemy was ezreal yuumi.
    Since the level 2 all in I didn't throw a single hook.
    Tristana went back a bit to type in chat : thresh hook
    At that moment any hook from me would have been an int ... many adcs at low elo think it's all about kills and Don't believe that much in cs and plates and you as a support can either force them to stay patient or encourage them to int by getting tilted yourself.
    No matter how much time passes ... a bad play will always remain a bad play.
    The same goes opposite when I'm adc and playing against an engage support if you keep the wave frozen and chill it won't be long till you get a free kill since they will most likely int under your tower.

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 2 lety

      you NOT hooking was being a constant threat for having the hook ready any time... while you realize throwing it would be an int, the enemy (just as bad as your adc) were shitting their pants. :D
      sometimes the easiest games / laning phases i had, were the ones just having a blitzcrank support, because of the threat/pressure from NOT throwing the hook

    • @mido3071
      @mido3071 Před 2 lety

      @@kosmique
      Exactly ... which introduces the concept of zoning for supports :D

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

      @@kosmique You do have a lot of merit here, zoning is a very understated and used concept especially in low elo, however I will say that you still need to threaten the hook at some point. Like if I'm Jinx vs a thresh and he never throws out the hook I'll poke more and contest the wave more because he's signaling that he doesn't have the confidence to go for the hook and make that play happen.

  • @YuYuYuna_
    @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

    Yes you should make adaptations from game to game but for example the first clip they showed of the xayah rakan vs lucian sona was literally just rakan griefing thinking he's somehow going to kill the lucian 100-0 with heal and sona with exhaust while walking past the minion wave. If the enemy bot was any good they would have just immediately exhausted him and turned since rakan is literally walking in their minion wave and SHOULD be dead since he already used W and is LVL 1 chasing past the minion wave thinking he can 100-0 lucian with heal and exhaust. I agree with his point that you should adapt to your support's playstyle but saying "don't go X build/runes on a champ because your support may just run it down lvl 1 instead of backing off after a good trade and him landing the W knockup" is just nonsense. Literally instead of not going a build you can communicate and ping your aery and even type "I am lethality/poke xayah" and let them know.

    • @tudortanasa7798
      @tudortanasa7798 Před 2 lety

      The fact is that lethal tempo xayah would've been as useless as aery xayah in the situation and way worse during the rest of the game.

  • @AAbattery444
    @AAbattery444 Před 2 lety +5

    This is a really bad guide lol. 80% of your adc "guides" are actually just videos gaslighting adc's.
    I've paid for coaching by neace and Saber. Both high challenger/pro level players. The anti-adc/pro support bias is seething from this video.
    1) you say nothing about pings.
    2) you don't talk about lane match-ups (poke vs catch vs all in) or win conditions.
    3) you actually encourage bad plays by saying to play to match your support's play style - this will ACTUALLY fuck your games up. If your support does something stupid, literally every good coach I have worked with has said to just let your support int and don't int with them. Your job as an adc is to farm up and scale. League of legends is a game of survival horror for an adc. Your job is to survive until you can fight back. Not to play with your support or to match their inting playstyle. Only time you should play with your support is when they actually have a brain, and 90% of the time, they don't.
    4) better advice would simply be to learn how to identify when a support is a bad support and then, when they prove that they are, completely ignore everything they want to do and play for yourself. Let them int their brains out. Just don't int with them. As soon as my support ignores my pings and does random shit that I red ping them not to do, I ignore everything they say and do and just play for myself. I start off trusting all supports equally at the beginning. But once they've shown they have no clue how the game works, that's it for them. Nothing they say matters. Just farm up and hope they're not actively inting to feed your laner adc. Wave management is your friend. Slow pushing and freezing in particular depending on whether or not you're behind or ahead respectively.

    • @shikikankillzone4239
      @shikikankillzone4239 Před 2 lety +2

      Remember that they said that perma pushing is viable if your support is bad? What did you see in this video? Them berating an ADC for following their advice, lmao

    • @AAbattery444
      @AAbattery444 Před 2 lety +2

      @@shikikankillzone4239 exactly lol.

  • @mythera
    @mythera Před 2 lety +2

    And now make the video out of the support pov with the adc being the troll under the bridge 😂

  • @KungKokkos
    @KungKokkos Před 2 lety

    What about when you are a support and you have to play with a braindead ADC? When you play Rell and they spam ping you to engage despite the other team having a Janna support that already proved her ability to instant tornado the second you click W?
    What about when they pick an early game aggressive ADC, you match them your support pick, and they go on to play super passive letting the Vayne enemy ADC go even in lane?

    • @khtah2
      @khtah2 Před 2 lety

      As a support you don't need exp or gold so you're free to help other lanes

    • @KungKokkos
      @KungKokkos Před 2 lety

      @@khtah2 You don't need exp as a support? Ofcourse you do. Plus if you ever tried leaving botlane as a support you would know that most people would shout at you to go back bot if you stay more than a few seconds.

    • @khtah2
      @khtah2 Před 2 lety

      @@KungKokkos just mute them. That's what I do. If they're bad there's no reason for me to listen to them. Also I should've said you need exp less than other roles

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety +1

      The biggest thing you can do on your side as the support is massively step up your ping game. Want to pressure for a lvl 2 play and there's 2 melee creeps left? ping "on the way" MULTIPLE times, not just once. Do this for everything you want to do. I know a lot of Supports say they hate doing this type of stuff but if that's the case then stop playing support. The job of support is to be a leader for your team but also for your ADC in bot lane especially if you're in low elo.
      Now for the janna vs rell example you gave, what I can suggest to you is actively try to work on your ability to bait her tornado and abuse lane brushes with sweeper (oracle lens). In a matchup like that you can still get off engages but what you need to do is work on your movement and feigning aggression to bait out her tornado. For example play in the lane bush, sweep it if she wards and then constantly poke your head out of the bush and walk at the enemy adc or the janna for a second. The goal of this is to put them on edge, give them something to worry about. A matchup like that vs an opponent who knows how to cancel your rell w is a skill match up and thus you need to jockey for positioning and try to bait out her tornado.
      It's similar to playing thresh vs leona. That's a skill matchup that does slightly favor the thresh because of his flay (E) being able to cancel leona E. Similarly is something like blitz vs morgana. While morg does technically hard counter blitz it is still possible to win lane, it's just significantly harder and involves a lot of jockeying for position, abusing lane brushes with sweeper and in combination with your ADC trying to force out Morg E through good poke and trades.

  • @orifirce
    @orifirce Před 2 lety

    Xin adc 0:50. I've seen it all

  • @ollep0lle
    @ollep0lle Před 2 lety +1

    I hereby report all crappy supports for the rest of eternity!! All you noobies holding me back, you are REPORTED!!

  • @rickmaior9556
    @rickmaior9556 Před 2 lety

    Soo, how would this work from supp side? for example you are the naut and your adc keeps pushing not allowing you to engage on enemies? just roam? OR when you want the enemie to push soo you can roam, but they insted decide to freeze the lane?

    • @chuchinhquyen
      @chuchinhquyen Před 2 lety

      how about u just tell ur adc exactly what u think that will work for both of u, u have an idea, speak for it, and if he smart enough he will follow, otherwise, bad luck

    • @lLustfulness
      @lLustfulness Před 2 lety

      You know what I do, I say "If you keep pushing - I roam." Normally works (:

    • @trebuhhus
      @trebuhhus Před 2 lety

      usually when I say "I cant engage if you keep pushing lane" works for me

    • @yoyo80s41
      @yoyo80s41 Před 2 lety

      Amazing how you don't get the video.
      Actually it tells you to adapt to your teamate, so if your ADC has wave control and push, it is actually expecting you to roam rather than do nothing.
      The tuto even outline that, if your ADC doesn't enable you to engage, you have to consider that he wants you to do something else.
      "OR when you want the enemie to push soo you can roam"??? Don't ever do that, if the ennemy pushes, you have to stay and hit the wave so that your team gain control of it, maybe to freeze it but the difference between your ennemy push and your team freeze is, who controls the wave...
      Finally Naut isn't Leona or Panth, he can't engage through minions, so you actually need to pressure wave to set the right conditions, don't circle around cause your ADC won't probably be able to follow you.
      I guess you can stop loosing time watching theese video, it will lead you nowhere, you just do to many mistake, or maybe pay them some cession because you need clother and more personnal explanations.

    • @shikikankillzone4239
      @shikikankillzone4239 Před 2 lety

      You roam. ADCs perma pushing is green light for roaming unless you're in pisslow. And even if you are in pisslow, just roam anyway, ADC is the worst role in the game and the most difficult to carry as. Odds say your jungler will instakill the enemy ADC later even if the opponsing bot is fed

  • @fishy9125
    @fishy9125 Před 2 lety

    good choice analyzing only xayah in the video. She has two different builds which have completely different playstyles and she is the best adc to push the lane. And we all know that every low elo player just wants to push a lane for the sake of it

  • @pecoguy
    @pecoguy Před 2 lety

    Too much flame on support when ADC do the mistake here. Flame the support when he does a mistake (that's okay), but don't flame the ADC when he does one (wich is hypocrite). You can't ask an engage support to go for a "poke build", unlike an ADC. But very interesting video. Talking about lack of adaptability from the ADC player is nice, but it's done without the flame like it's not a mistake. "Sadly, you must understand people you play with. Shocking ! Almost make me want to quit the game!".

    • @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
      @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw Před 2 lety

      Rakan has different options here. He can learn Q and poke as Xayah is doing, or he can use his W defensively, hitting whoever is near his lane partner, instead of going far away from her. By going away from your team and into the enemy, you're basically pretending everyone's level 6 already. Simply having taken W isn't enough to say that he's only able to engage. He can also disengage. In fact, his E sends him right back to her which if she's at relative safety is disengaging.

  • @loopholemusic8368
    @loopholemusic8368 Před 2 lety

    Cool, now teach me how to find coordinate of my teammate ? ask for a friend.

  • @femshep4018
    @femshep4018 Před 4 měsíci

    Not sure about adapting your playstyle to your support. This means that you're adapting to a random playstyle every game. This means that your playstyle is flexible and random every game. People want some solid fundamentals to climb with, I'm just not sure "Adapt to the rando" is the way to go. Particularly when- Support could be fantastic, support could be terrible because the MMR got it wrong (and who's never seen that?), support could be trolling, support could be trying support for the first or second time in ranked. Its just so unreliable to adapt to your support in SoloQ.

  • @yGKeKe
    @yGKeKe Před 4 měsíci

    "Why did they pick the champion they picked?"
    Well apparently supports pick Brand so that they can go AFK behind you and not actually use their spells.

  • @tudortanasa7798
    @tudortanasa7798 Před 2 lety +1

    In the first example you are absolutely trolling by saying that xayah should go on hit against sona/orianna. U didn t show their jg but it's just stupid not to go lethality into their comp, since lethality is the more powerful build in the current meta and it is far easier to play in solo queue because you have range to keep urself safe. Other than that the lethality build is also better for all in in bot 2v2, since you can one shot squishies once you get a dirk. The fight that you have shown is absolutely pointless since xayah (with whichever rune page) sucks at all ins at lvl 1, she needs her E to win 2v2 so she needs level 2 or 3.
    You shouldn't adapt your build to your support, but obviously to the enemy comp.

  • @gustavolrcoelho
    @gustavolrcoelho Před 2 lety

    Question: As a Kindred, how the fuck do I convince my teammates to fight ON THE FUCKING ULT, not outside of it? Triyed telling them, pinging the floor, etc, but to no avail.

    • @ELFottler
      @ELFottler Před 2 lety

      I think the answer here is don't play kindred. I know it sucks but I don't think you can play "mechanically complicated" champs like that. Its like trying to play Rell, people don't understand her still even though she is like top pick in pro play.

    • @Lamb666
      @Lamb666 Před 2 lety

      You don’t. You just have to use your ult differently and be selfish. At least until you get players that can carry you instead of needing to be carried.

    • @raphaelnej8387
      @raphaelnej8387 Před 2 lety

      i would answer by giving you the answer to the ivern problem:
      How do i explain my mates if they go inside the circle near the buff i cleared within a minute, they get the buff.
      or
      How do i explain my mates they don’t need to pull.
      it is simple
      you don’t explain them. You watch them miss your buffs. You watch them pull the blue while you start wolves. You watch them die outside of your kindred ultimate.
      And you gain elo.
      Eventually they will become a bit more aware.
      Or you can play a mainstream champ...
      Yasuo doesnt have to explain he can ult on ultra short knockups

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety

      From my experience its more like I have to second guess if my kindred is going to actually press R or is one of those edgy gamers thinking they'll press it at literally 1 hp to maximize the value of the immunity to death.

  • @eugeniohernandez8552
    @eugeniohernandez8552 Před 2 lety

    i need this but for brainless adcs

  • @Toxxxic_
    @Toxxxic_ Před 2 lety +1

    if u builds ur runes based on what ur support is playing it could also end badly. What if the rakan played really passively? even though he can be very aggressive in lane.

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. This video is mostly gaslighting for ADCs. It's saying you shouldn't go a certain build because your support rakan might decide to all in lvl 1 past the enemy minion wave vs a bot lane that has heal and exhaust still. It's horrible advice that no one should listen to. You shouldn't avoid going a build because your support rakan thinks he can 100-0 the lucian with just his autos and ignite vs heal exhaust and only being LVL 1 with W already used. Even if she was lethal tempo xayah they don't kill there. In fact the enemy bot could have killed the rakan with sona exhausting him to slow him and lucian turning with his autos + the minion wave attacking rakan + sona and forced his flash anyways.

  • @XioriannaEBDjinn
    @XioriannaEBDjinn Před 2 lety

    So tldr: Be more empathetic to your allies.
    Gee whillakers, whoda thunk it