4:40 I was wondering why he was throwing out shoryukens at such long range. A few seconds later, it all made perfect sense, and all I could do was scream and cheer along with the crowd.
@duckie258 The Shoryuken motion can be input as Forward > Down > Down Forward > Forward +punches. Notice the last 3 motions(d, df, f=QCF) are the same as the first three motions of your super (QCF). When you do a shoryuken motion, you've already buffered half of your super, so if you input it again right after, the super will come out automatically. It acts as a basic option select against Dhalsim while "fishing" for limbs.
WOW DAIGO. I JUST LOVE how he's throwing hadokens to just think about what he's gonna do. Its a great way to calcutate everything. Most amazing sf4 player on earth :)
I just realised Daigo didn't have this super bar fully charged at 4:24 and 4:25. I'm guessing if the shoryu lands, it woulda give him enough to charge up the bar. PS: Just look at how fast the shinku followed the shoryu. Nobody in the world has such amazing reaction times unless it's an option select.
I'm watching this aswell, years on... Still the best match. So much technology of the game shown and this was like weeks after the game was released... Incredible.
wow watching high level dhalsim play from 1 and a half years ago is really cool. it's much more active, much riskier. lots more jumps, more moving forward, more attempted antiairs, etc. very different style. seeing a game's strategies evolve over time is pretty interesting.
Best Sim in the world. He won the Japanese SF4 tournament and almost beat Daigo in this one! He definitely is the best Sim in the world, bar none and a pleasure to watch!!
you may see the mistakes made but it's also the mentality daigo placed in iyo's head that made iyo do the things he did and the mistakes he made. it's a lot of mind games going on that are beyond just execution and reaction.
sim is one of the hardest character to learn man because he's got really low hp, super slow, and must live by zoning. it would take years to get as good as iyo with the pokes and zoning. iyo played sim since sf2
@FiveEcho Yup it's not luck. I think, in my humble opinion, it's called option-select. Basically, Daigo inputs a light shoryu and then a shinku hadoken immediately after. Two things can happen after this combination. One, if the shoryu didn't land, then the shinku won't be executed and Daigo will just do a light shoryu. Two, if the shoryu lands, then the shinku will immediately follow. This explains the numerous 'random' shoryus that Daigo's been throwing out at 4:24 and 4:25 and 4:46.
one reason is because the Japanese and Korean players play mainly in the arcade which meant they had to practice at all against those extra characters. But to be a bit more fair they shouldve at least allowed akuma/gouki at least since hes available in the arcade.
Daigo still placed in the nationals, and is clearly capable of beating iyo, as seen here. And he beat Justing wong at evo, AND crushed the man at season's beatings. Daigo is no scrub.
.0000001% life is still life. as much as i love iyo, since i play sim as well, daigo won that round. he knew iyo was gonna poke him at that moment and he countered with shoryuken into super. this is the only match i see daigo throw random shoryuken but its to keep the sim honest and not throw too many random pokes. it worked in daigo's fav this time.
Notice that when Daigo dashed -> whiffed SRK, he dashed into Dhalsim's poke range. If he was strictly trying to be conservative with fireballs, he would not have taken the risk of dashing into Dhalsim's poke range.
@duckie258 Basically Daigo just does a light shoryuken every so often to try and catch the very end of Dhalsim's hand. He inputs the motion for a light shoryuken plus he inputs a quarter circle forward plus hard punch right after the shoryuken. So if he misses the limbs he'll just do a shoryuken and he'll be in the air so Ryu's super won't come out accidentally since he's in the air, But if he connects with the limbs then he'll cancel the shoryuken straight into Ryu's super & it should hit
he's doing crouching light punch because it looks at the beginning it looks like a standing fierce. It's how Iyo use to confuse his opponents on when he'll throw his standing fiece because they are so easy to counter. Iyo was baiting Diago to try to Shoyuken he's standing fierce when he's actually throwing crouching jab.
Daigo is just on a different level...especially when he is very closing to losing a round...im not trying to make a reference to that chunli parry just like everyone one on youtube does...but he just is the best in the world, no question about it.
if you were at that moment, yes I agree you would lose. But that was Daigo at that moment, he didn't mind 't care about his health too much till he was done. That's why even with one HP, he still remains calm and find the way out.
first off i'd just like say that was a good dhalsim and secondly daigo umehara! the man is champ, plays like a champ he switches his game up at the last round get's all up in dhalsims face and he aint got no answer. That's the hallmark of a champ in any field they are able to bring it on in various ways when the situations dictates it and that takes more than just plain skill u need nerves of steel and u need true belief that wat u're doing is right for the occasion.
@Marceles45 it wasnt reaction, he was doing the motions for a dp super cancel. if the dp whiffs its just whiffs. if it hits or is blocked it cancels into super. it works well on dhalsim since he can't block a srk from half screen so it will only hit him if he sticks out a limb.
its because he had been hit in the air so nothing else could hit him till he touched the ground, and when he did the ex shoryuken had invincibility to get him out of there. A lot of characters can do the same thing as long as they have invincibility on the move.
wow, Exciting to watch. makes you wonder is Daigo learning and teaching in the heat of this match, in like 7 rounds? Dude is really a dangerous mind! Dude wins across different games, almost predictably, always elevating the most chosen, some would say scrub-friendly, character, Ryu, to tournament status, still gets respect, remains someone to watch. Speaks only Japanese?, but speaks the universal language of beat-down quite fluently, in several dialects.
Daigo plays with whoever gives him the best advantage. He played with Ken in III because they suped him up like crazy. The main advantage for Ryu in IV is his Super and Ultra, all he has to do is get his opponent in the air and he can hit, whereas with Ken you're forced to combo into it. But with Ryu? Medium Shoryu, dash cancel, instant Super/Ultra opportunity.
That's because Ryu was hit mid air with a punch from Dhalsim. Naturally if its not a knockdown hit (like a shoryu instead), Ryu would just flip back and he will become invincible until he drops down to the ground. And while you're in the ground, EX shoryus practically escapes everything.
@FiveEcho Yes, Daigo definitely doesn't fit the definition of spammers. Spammers are people who try to get AWAY from the opponent just to fire their projectiles.
"cancelling" Basically just means *As the ANIMATION for 1 move is coming out you input the command for a 2nd move that it will combo into* An easy cancel would be Quarter circle down to forward punch *with ryu to throw a fireball* and then immediately doing ANOTHER quarter circle down to forward and hitting punch again for the super so you'd do DTF Punch DTF punch quickly and what would come out is 1 fireball...then super...and it would combo, if that makes sense.
Really sad to see such a great Dhalsim lose. If those trades into supers and ultras weren't the most blatant example of Shoto cheesiness I don't know what is.
The best matches Ever .. Both Daigo and Iyo played so freaking good.They're equally Skilled .Dhalsim being a lower tier and extremely hard to play my hat off to Iyo(There's like 2 Dhalsim player for 1000 Ryu player for a reason) . Sticking to the character he love playing and kicking ass with him.
wow he is really my SF4 hero right now... who can defeat this guy....all those opponents... momochi, justin, iyo.. all those beast players and he is the best... 1 word... AMAZING!
Mastering the basics is key to being good at anything. All high level players have mastered the basics. As for the tier system it doesn't mean jack, If all the high level players used Claw(Vega in America) he would be the hi-tier everybody bitched about. Thats how the tier system works.
after fighting Seth enough times pulling off a shoryuken FDC on a low stretch punch doesn't seem to difficult. but to pull off that ex hadouken FDC into an ultra is a whole different ball game. You have to pull of the ultra command durring the dash to get it to connect, very tough on D-Pad.
Iyo was at the middle of avoiding hadouken. It takes time to get back to the normal position. If Iyo jump quickly and teleport to execute his awesome combo, Daigo would get back to the position that he can guard. It's hard to cause Daigo keep a very good distance to save time.
Definitely one of the greatest matches. I've tried countless times to dissect the way iyo plays and emulate it, but... man his sim is just too sick. However I gotta give it up to Daigo. The guy changes his game on the fly against every level player. Notice how everything leading to the 4:47 finish was all planned out. Iyo got baited and bit the hook. Nonetheless, there's nothing to take away from any of these two great players. Good match
The fighting system in SF4 was super smooth!!
4:40 I was wondering why he was throwing out shoryukens at such long range. A few seconds later, it all made perfect sense, and all I could do was scream and cheer along with the crowd.
I had rewatched that section in slow mo @ 0.5 speed & figured out how shoryuken was effective in throwing Dhalsim
2021 and it's still awesome
4:22 Setting him up w/ those missed shoryukens and hadoukens.
@duckie258 The Shoryuken motion can be input as Forward > Down > Down Forward > Forward +punches. Notice the last 3 motions(d, df, f=QCF) are the same as the first three motions of your super (QCF). When you do a shoryuken motion, you've already buffered half of your super, so if you input it again right after, the super will come out automatically. It acts as a basic option select against Dhalsim while "fishing" for limbs.
There are certain moves that only Daigo can perform.
It's not only that he did the impossible, it's that he did it at the optimal moment.
I love how both of these dude standing up there all clam and emotionless....
Daigo seems to work well under pressure... He is really a comeback kid.
I play this game everyday, so hopefully I can make it one of the EVO tourneys. It's amazing just watching the pro players.
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A piece of the legend Daigo...
One of the best SFIV Vanilla matches of all time. I remember i was extremly impressed then.
Amazing! This is the best match that I've ever seen. I love the crowd intensity which makes this vid even better!
5/5
oh shit that 5th round was close.
I didn't know you played Street Fighter lol.
Wtf dyrus
Epic fight. Iyo's Sim is great. Changing up the gameplan and adapting well. Daigo's reflexes are unbelievable though, 4:47 was nuts!!!
WOW DAIGO. I JUST LOVE how he's throwing hadokens to just think about what he's gonna do. Its a great way to calcutate everything. Most amazing sf4 player on earth :)
i thought at the end, reaching to pocket, more insert coins
I just realised Daigo didn't have this super bar fully charged at 4:24 and 4:25. I'm guessing if the shoryu lands, it woulda give him enough to charge up the bar.
PS: Just look at how fast the shinku followed the shoryu. Nobody in the world has such amazing reaction times unless it's an option select.
4:47 Maybe the most awesome thing I have ever seen done in a video game. That is pwnage and mastery...
I'm watching this aswell, years on... Still the best match. So much technology of the game shown and this was like weeks after the game was released... Incredible.
wow watching high level dhalsim play from 1 and a half years ago is really cool. it's much more active, much riskier. lots more jumps, more moving forward, more attempted antiairs, etc. very different style. seeing a game's strategies evolve over time is pretty interesting.
EPIC MATCH. Gotta be one of my all-time favorites.
I didn't think that anyone could use Sim well in SF IV. Glad to see there are indeed people that can.
Best Sim in the world. He won the Japanese SF4 tournament and almost beat Daigo in this one! He definitely is the best Sim in the world, bar none and a pleasure to watch!!
lol at Iyo being a new face. He's only been playing since SF2CE, and he's a CVS2 legend.
Damn edge of my seat these two mastters of their fields
Best exhibition of the SF4 era!
Daigo is amazing and this match is still 1 of the best SF4 matches I have ever seen.
Dhalsim’s weakness of being thrown in close range is obvious during 3rd fight
The designer of Dhalsim would be proud. Iyo represents him like no other.
One of the best matches i've watched so far, Iyo sim is sik and daigo's still a beast
Yes, because everyone with a tag with 'daigo' or even 'diago' in it is the Legend himself :)
please people give it up for Iyo-he is the best dhalsim player i have ever seen :)
you may see the mistakes made but it's also the mentality daigo placed in iyo's head that made iyo do the things he did and the mistakes he made. it's a lot of mind games going on that are beyond just execution and reaction.
4:54 Daigo daigoing, priceless.
sim is one of the hardest character to learn man because he's got really low hp, super slow, and must live by zoning. it would take years to get as good as iyo with the pokes and zoning. iyo played sim since sf2
One of the best SF4 match I've ever seen. Both players are amazing. Daigo is a beast, & Iyo is a god of Dhalsim
@FiveEcho
Yup it's not luck. I think, in my humble opinion, it's called option-select. Basically, Daigo inputs a light shoryu and then a shinku hadoken immediately after. Two things can happen after this combination. One, if the shoryu didn't land, then the shinku won't be executed and Daigo will just do a light shoryu. Two, if the shoryu lands, then the shinku will immediately follow.
This explains the numerous 'random' shoryus that Daigo's been throwing out at 4:24 and 4:25 and 4:46.
4:47 just kills everything!
one reason is because the Japanese and Korean players play mainly in the arcade which meant they had to practice at all against those extra characters. But to be a bit more fair they shouldve at least allowed akuma/gouki at least since hes available in the arcade.
daigo's reactions are amazing
Daigo still placed in the nationals, and is clearly capable of beating iyo, as seen here.
And he beat Justing wong at evo, AND crushed the man at season's beatings. Daigo is no scrub.
Dhalsim put up a very good fight.
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.0000001% life is still life. as much as i love iyo, since i play sim as well, daigo won that round. he knew iyo was gonna poke him at that moment and he countered with shoryuken into super. this is the only match i see daigo throw random shoryuken but its to keep the sim honest and not throw too many random pokes. it worked in daigo's fav this time.
Notice that when Daigo dashed -> whiffed SRK, he dashed into Dhalsim's poke range. If he was strictly trying to be conservative with fireballs, he would not have taken the risk of dashing into Dhalsim's poke range.
@duckie258 Basically Daigo just does a light shoryuken every so often to try and catch the very end of Dhalsim's hand. He inputs the motion for a light shoryuken plus he inputs a quarter circle forward plus hard punch right after the shoryuken. So if he misses the limbs he'll just do a shoryuken and he'll be in the air so Ryu's super won't come out accidentally since he's in the air, But if he connects with the limbs then he'll cancel the shoryuken straight into Ryu's super & it should hit
Vanilla SF4 was the best IMO, and this match proves it.
Aww man... If Iyo won that fourth round it would've been 4-1. Truely a crazy match.
he's doing crouching light punch because it looks at the beginning it looks like a standing fierce. It's how Iyo use to confuse his opponents on when he'll throw his standing fiece because they are so easy to counter. Iyo was baiting Diago to try to Shoyuken he's standing fierce when he's actually throwing crouching jab.
Daigo is just on a different level...especially when he is very closing to losing a round...im not trying to make a reference to that chunli parry just like everyone one on youtube does...but he just is the best in the world, no question about it.
if you were at that moment, yes I agree you would lose. But that was Daigo at that moment, he didn't mind 't care about his health too much till he was done. That's why even with one HP, he still remains calm and find the way out.
always seeing that double hurricane kick ex is NICE!!!
This fight was so much better than the Grand Finals between Daigo and Justin.
probably the best match I've ever seen and it's a few months old now
wow...now i know why they call Daigo "The Beast" this was literally my face- :O
I love watching and playing fights this intense.
The beast was unleashed on the 7º round. =]
first off i'd just like say that was a good dhalsim and secondly daigo umehara! the man is champ, plays like a champ he switches his game up at the last round get's all up in dhalsims face and he aint got no answer. That's the hallmark of a champ in any field they are able to bring it on in various ways when the situations dictates it and that takes more than just plain skill u need nerves of steel and u need true belief that wat u're doing is right for the occasion.
one of the best SFIV fights I ever seen
Daigo is good and Iyo is no push over either, people need to remember that.
You gotta see more of Daigo's matches. This dude is the truth.
@Marceles45 it wasnt reaction, he was doing the motions for a dp super cancel. if the dp whiffs its just whiffs. if it hits or is blocked it cancels into super. it works well on dhalsim since he can't block a srk from half screen so it will only hit him if he sticks out a limb.
By far the best street fighter 4 fight I've ever seen.
I am so in love with iyo's dhalsim. ITS SO GODLY PLEASE GIVE ME THOSE DH SKILLS!!!!!
this is the best fight ive ever seen
its because he had been hit in the air so nothing else could hit him till he touched the ground, and when he did the ex shoryuken had invincibility to get him out of there. A lot of characters can do the same thing as long as they have invincibility on the move.
iyo is just a master at dodging and weaving those hadokens, i wish i could play like that
wow, Exciting to watch. makes you wonder is Daigo learning and teaching in the heat of this match, in like 7 rounds? Dude is really a dangerous mind! Dude wins across different games, almost predictably, always elevating the most chosen, some would say scrub-friendly, character, Ryu, to tournament status, still gets respect, remains someone to watch. Speaks only Japanese?, but speaks the universal language of beat-down quite fluently, in several dialects.
@UltraDavid lol agreed.....thats y i went back to check this out...reminisce
4:48 was straight pro, damn he has good reaction skills
Crazy as hell! This guy is SF GoD
Daigo plays with whoever gives him the best advantage. He played with Ken in III because they suped him up like crazy.
The main advantage for Ryu in IV is his Super and Ultra, all he has to do is get his opponent in the air and he can hit, whereas with Ken you're forced to combo into it. But with Ryu? Medium Shoryu, dash cancel, instant Super/Ultra opportunity.
I know the trick, it is from SF III when you break a Special move to a Super art, Thanks for the info, now I admire Daigo much more now!
Daigo predicted the punch/kick coming and shoryuken it, theres no maybes about it.
In the end it said "Ryu wins", so you can't say he lost this fight.
that was epic. get comeback and i love the double flying kick for the last match.
You can tell that Daigo saw that punch coming...he tried it once, but failed...then the second time...he got it!!! ^_^
once more daigo shows his superiority
That's because Ryu was hit mid air with a punch from Dhalsim. Naturally if its not a knockdown hit (like a shoryu instead), Ryu would just flip back and he will become invincible until he drops down to the ground. And while you're in the ground, EX shoryus practically escapes everything.
One of the best matches I've ever seen...
@FiveEcho
Yes, Daigo definitely doesn't fit the definition of spammers. Spammers are people who try to get AWAY from the opponent just to fire their projectiles.
Best match to watch of the tournament.
"cancelling" Basically just means *As the ANIMATION for 1 move is coming out you input the command for a 2nd move that it will combo into* An easy cancel would be Quarter circle down to forward punch *with ryu to throw a fireball* and then immediately doing ANOTHER quarter circle down to forward and hitting punch again for the super so you'd do DTF Punch DTF punch quickly and what would come out is 1 fireball...then super...and it would combo, if that makes sense.
by far the best dhalsim user there is too bad he got matched up against daigo right away
it wouldve been better if they played in the finals
Really sad to see such a great Dhalsim lose. If those trades into supers and ultras weren't the most blatant example of Shoto cheesiness I don't know what is.
thanks for the vids! good quality!
The best matches Ever .. Both Daigo and Iyo played so freaking good.They're equally Skilled .Dhalsim being a lower tier and extremely hard to play my hat off to Iyo(There's like 2 Dhalsim player for 1000 Ryu player for a reason) . Sticking to the character he love playing and kicking ass with him.
なんという勝負強さ！
When Daigo plays Ryu his character receives an extra Ultra. Metsu Hadoken and The DAIGO ENGINE.
wow he is really my SF4 hero right now... who can defeat this guy....all those opponents... momochi, justin, iyo.. all those beast players and he is the best... 1 word... AMAZING!
wow, what a risk taker for show. he really is the best.
Mastering the basics is key to being good at anything. All high level players have mastered the basics. As for the tier system it doesn't mean jack, If all the high level players used Claw(Vega in America) he would be the hi-tier everybody bitched about. Thats how the tier system works.
after fighting Seth enough times pulling off a shoryuken FDC on a low stretch punch doesn't seem to difficult. but to pull off that ex hadouken FDC into an ultra is a whole different ball game. You have to pull of the ultra command durring the dash to get it to connect, very tough on D-Pad.
Iyo was at the middle of avoiding hadouken. It takes time to get back to the normal position. If Iyo jump quickly and teleport to execute his awesome combo, Daigo would get back to the position that he can guard. It's hard to cause Daigo keep a very good distance to save time.
what a great video... thanks for posting it....
i remember when this game came out i so kicked ass in the store lol but know everybody plays awsome!
i dont give a damn how good some is with dhalsim once you get inside on him the match is pretty much over as you saw in that last round
Nah it actually looked like good fundamentals to me. Even though the other guy missed a few punishments, it didn't detract from the comback.
Definitely one of the greatest matches. I've tried countless times to dissect the way iyo plays and emulate it, but... man his sim is just too sick. However I gotta give it up to Daigo. The guy changes his game on the fly against every level player. Notice how everything leading to the 4:47 finish was all planned out. Iyo got baited and bit the hook. Nonetheless, there's nothing to take away from any of these two great players. Good match
both these guys were super trying. good shit.
4.48 insane reflexs! That's split second counter dhalsim's punch! finished off with a super.