The Robinson Arms XCR and Interview with Alex Robinson
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That wink while talking about the pistol brace is gold
I have 2 XCR-L AND XCR-M. They are awesome. My XCR-M is 308, and my XCR-L 5.56 AND 7.62X39 WORKS like a charm
I own a L and a M and they truly are amazing. I'm surprised that they're not better known. Every time I take em to the range folks are really interested in them. They really don't get the recognition they deserve. Bravo Alex and Team... You guys have built a real winner! PS... that M looks killer in OD Green
I’ve wanted an XCR for years. I’d love for this gun to gain popularity. I think it’s definitely underrated. Please do more videos on the XCR! Great channel, I really enjoy watching it!
I love mine. It is a very rugged rifle, wonderful ergonomics, reliable, very high quality build. At this point the platform is so nice I only expect small evolutionary improvements.
Love this XCR, i think price is the driving factor in the rifle not being more wide spread. People are just fine paying 500.00 to 1000.00 for an AR or AK but will cringe at the sight of a 2000.00 rifle. I think the fact that they are vertically integrated and produce a very high quality rifle are often overlooked when they see $$$$. The quality and features have me sold.....very robust and reliable design!
Riiight?! Despite some of the videos where it fails every now and again (I've seen ARs and AKs do the same thing) I am sold on this thing. That side charging handle is awesome. It means I won't have to mortor the damn thing trying to clear a bad jam like I do on my AR. It will be my next rifle. Also, those same people who are good with cheap weapon systems are usually non prior service and only have video games and second or third hand knowledge as experience when it comes to fighting rifles. Those 500 dollar guns are great for range toys, but I would never trust one as a dedicated fighting rifle. The XCR looks like it has the build quality to be a good fighting rifle to take through Armageddon. Don't get me wrong. If a 500 dollar gun is all you've got or can afford, it's better than nothing. But I know guys (a younger friend of mine specifically) who are single and make over 80k a year and complain about expensive gear and talk about how their 500 dollar AK or AR is a good end of the world gun...At times I get a headache due to the sheer stupidity of their words. You buy the best gear you can afford. Because if you ever have to use it, you want it to run like the energizer bunny.
The price is the driving factor as to why I don't own one, not because I wouldn't gladly pay it as I think this is the perfect rifle but sadly just because I'm poor. One day though... one day
@@ln6964 Might I add, most negative reviews of the XCR platform are totally misleading. There’s A LOT of user error involved with the hiccups or “fails”, that followed the XCR. Most people that had a negative opinion of the platform, made one of two mistakes (or both)….1. Didn’t adjust the gas system between different rounds, loads, or brands. Some literally forgot that the gas system is fully adjustable (like a FAL) with 8 positions. 2. They didn’t tighten or torque the barrel down to spec after swapping calibers. Not to say there weren’t any lemons out there but, which company hasn’t had that issue? However, Robinson Armament generally has good customer service despite contrary belief. Alex Robinson has/had a reputation of being arrogant and dismissive of complaints because of all the bullshit he’s had to deal with. Whether it was people trying to rag on his platform, attempts to bring his company down, the military fucking him out of a contract, etc.. If the rifle was so shitty, it wouldn’t have been such a success in Canada. Ask yourself, how could a SMALL company like R.A. stay a float since the early 2000’s, if his platform wasn’t legitimate? Also, most people that used the XCR properly and understood what they were getting into, never had an issue. Some people simply can’t step away from their AR-15 or AK-47. Which at the end of the day, is totally fine. I believe everyone should own a standard AR, AK, or both. I just feel it’s wrong to dismiss other options, especially when they’re viable.
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Imho, the XCR is one of the best platforms money can buy and is worth every penny spent. The versatility, quality, and ingenuity is too hard to ignore.
I don't even think they are remotely expensive for what they are.
Can't use that argument when people are paying $5k for an KAC SR25
I'm waiting for mine. It's almost done
I just discovered these rifles yesterday on MrGunsNGear’s channel. I think I found my battle rifle/thermal hunting setup!!!!
Makes me proud to be a Robinson.
100% agree. I bought my L six years ago and ran it hard with 5.56. Then I SBR’d it in 300 blk, and now run it suppressed most of the time. I’ve run the AR platform as well, but I’ve found the xcr to be more versatile, reliable, and comfortable. It’s nice to see a respected channel giving it props. Alex R. doesn’t play to the media or the crowd very well. The xcr had some growing pains and I don’t think Alex handled himself very well during that time. Ideally the rifle should speak for itself...but.
I agree 100%. I've always preferred the R.A. XCR M and CZ Bren 805/2 to the FN SCAR across the board. Let alone, the AR-15 platform. These kind of platforms are the future in my opinion and for the better, might I add. S.A.S. always tells the truth compared to most of the gun reviewer's/enthusiasts on CZcams. I appreciate and value his opinion above most CZcamsr's.
Excellent review as always. The R/A XCR-L 7.62x39 Excellent and ultra reliable well beyond three thousand rounds. And that is with Wolf and Tula ammunition. Beefy three lug bolt and easy access for disassembly.,multi-caliber, available, and priced right. I have tested many rifles over the course of forty years. This is my favorite rifle design. We love Alex as he always goes on our forums and is always cool with us.
These sell well in canada. Seems like no one gets rid of them and like them better then any other non restricted battle style rifle.
Jake The Snake my greatest regret.....selling mine to buy a piece of crap x95
@@davebona9592 whyyyyyyyy heck you did that!!!!!!????????
@@davebona9592 I have tavor - the worst "battle" rifle. Even the chinese T97 beats it in any single way.
The popularity is based on price. The xcr-m runs about 2500 bucks. Run the price at about 1500 to 1100 and Rob arms will need new machine tools to keep up.
I think what keeps most AR users away from it is the price tag...but I mean this like sports car version of a rifle. You can tell it's quality right away.
APC 223/556 and 308 next!!
I can't wait to buy one, then another, then another, then another and another. I will buy one of these a year if I have to they are just wonderful. Everything I love about the AK and AR and none of what I hate about both. Maybe I would like to see them do a quad pic rail purely for looks but I am m-lok all the way
They still offer quad pic rails if you ask
I've never been a fan of the AR-15, due to direct gas impingement. I'm ex-British Army and served with the L1A1 (FN-FAL). Due to my age and spinal injuries, I'd prefer a rifle which doesn't kick too much, so I'd choose a XCR-L in 6.5 Grendel, with a 16 inch barrel and a XCR-M in 6.5 Creedmoor with 18 inch barrel. Shame I live in the UK, but by the looks of it and what I've read about it in the past, it deserves to sell well.
Beautiful gun hope to own one soon. Genius design.
This is the kind of guy that could make a bullpup design work
Really good video. Thanks.
I hope to own an XCR rifle some day. Excellent review. Thanks!
I though oh hey cool another AR15 looks pretty nice ... until he split and pulled out the bolt. Now I’m interested
A souped up, slicked up, AK. I would love one.
This thing is awesome, why have I never heard of it?....time to go shopping.
joey dubbs76 I was always an AR fan till I bought one now it is like Well the AR is light and in many cases more accurate then the XCR by a bit but in SHTF issues the distances you would be shooting at would not matter.
Slick. I want 5 of them.
One reason not many people have these guns where I am is because they $3,000 here in Canada . But at least they're not restricted ..... Like the AR15 is . Canadian gun laws suck period !
This is the only gun channel I hit the bell icon for : ) Good stuff !
Why are they not restricted?
@@atomicsmith They went from non restricted to prohibited just like our AR 15's and 1,500 variants on May 1 2020 with a stroke of a pen !
As far as I'm concerned this is not lawful . What Trudeau did was wrong on many different levels . They are using the shooting in Nova Scotia as an excuse to take away our guns . But the guns used in Nova Scotia were illegal guns smuggled into the country from the U.S.A. Taking away our legally bought and owned guns would not have stopped this . Nor would it have stopped any of the shootings in Toronto committed by third world criminals that should have never been aloud into the country in the first place . They are using illegal guns brought in from the U.S .
Trudeau did this to suck up to the U.N because he wanted a seat on the U.N security council . And it didn't work because they know what a dumb pos he is . The U.N said but the Liberal government is still going ahead with the ban . We have two years to turn them in . In the mean time we can't even use them or sell them , hell we can't even give them away !
Fantastic rifle, thanks for the video! AR platform now looks like a junk compared to the XCR.
Absolutely love them. Two of the first generation XCR-L’s. Never had an issue with them.
I heard it has a non-reciprocating charging handle that can be pressed in to be used as a forward assist. If this is the case that is awesome and I would like to see that more from manufacturers.
I plan on buying one or more. I imagine the whole design/platform would be more popular if ROBINSON licensed copies from the likes of PALMETTO STATE ARMORY.
Prestige and Branding would be ROBINSON and cost would be other licensed copies.
It's too "heavy" and expensive for average AR15 fans and it doesn't have military contracts to lure in the rich tactical crowd. It also lacks the rugged charm of the AK. That in my opinion is why it isn't more popular. Seems like a nice rifle though and I hope they do well.
Too heavy??! My 13 y old daughter (90lbs) carries my XCR-M all day long when we go on a hike (heavy 18.6" barrel) and she won't let me take it away from her lol. For the "rugged" part it is way ahead of any AR out there when it comes to durability and absolute reliability. Cool factor is also way ahead but this is totally based on our personal preferences. Best platform ever developed, in my opinion.
@@antouab221 "Heavy" was in quotation marks for a reason and "rugged charm" was in reference to the AK aesthetics and simplicity. I do not think this rifle is anything bad. I was trying to be objective and consider what the market wants in a general way. Making a good firearm isn't always enough to be a successful firearms manufacturer.
Can you look at Adcor Defense Rifle
WHAT KEEPS PEOPLE AWAY IS THAT YOU CAN'T INSTALL A PINK BOLT CATCH OR GOLD BBL!!! But they'll spend $2k for DD all day lol
I really need to get one of these. It is damn near perfect. I'd love to see AR triggers instead of what's in there. I'd also like to see a removable handguard setup like the Sig MCX.
The reason they don’t use AR triggers is because by doing so, the lower would need to sit up about 1/2 inch higher. To keep the platform compact, they designed a lower profile proprietary design that is very well engineered. Too bad there arent many aftermarket options haha
@@NASWOG The lower receiver size and shape would only need to be altered minimally to accommodate. They've teased at doing so in some video I was watching.
@@jhalscott that’d be awesome if they did
Could it be their reputation for poor customer service?
They’ve been very pleasant and extremely responsive in my experience
whats its accuracy with the one bolt holding the barrel on???
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I am on the fence between the Bren 2 and the XCR-L. Clearly the Bren 2 has the larger company behind it. I have had my eye on the XCL for a long time, but the lack of exposure and the apprehension of the small company has made me reluctant. If you hand to pick between the two, which is better?
L Phillips XCR is far more modular, easy to change barrels and calibers. I own both for different reasons. I would prefer the XCR
@@SmallArmsSolutions Which would you prefer to use in a SHTF scenario? The XCR or Bren 2?
Hi. I wonder why it's so smooth to shoot in 7,62x51 ? Some ak-style guns in 7,62x51 don't seem so smooth to shoot. Like the Galil in 7,62x51
The problem with this rifle is that it had problems on the very first versions, and they did not send new rifles to the guntubers. That killed them because people just saw this rifles 1 or 2 times and it failed on those times, then... never again.
What sort of MOA accuracy do you get out of the 5.56 XCR-L?
Bomber Harris with my rifle I get about 1.5 to 3 MOA... I have found the standard barrels tend to open up more the hotter they get but the heavy tend to stay true to their natural point more.
Depending on ammo type its more of a 3MOA rifle. However, good ammo and you do your part you can get to 1MOA. Like the other guy stayed pencil barrels will open up after a mag or two of firing the heavy barrels a lot less. I don't have any magnified optics so I stay 100yrds and below. Mine is set up for home defense/inside the house so I zeroed at 25yrds. Its NOT an accurized sniper rifle. It was designed as a combat rifle.
7:29 It can be long stroke like ak and it can be short stroke with op rod, connected to the bolt carrier like scar?
Yes, it can be both, I own 4 barrels for each of my guns. I prefer the long stroke system tho. It’s much smaller and smoother.
@@trickemdickem9114 the only difference is the gas block? Op rod stays the same?
@@tiortedrootsky no the gas block and the gas tube and the optic all change out very easily.
@@trickemdickem9114 sorry for all the questions, but it still not clear to me, when you change the gas block from long stroke version to short stroke, you need to change the op rod or its the same for both?
Maybe you happen to know a good review, covering more in depth features like that?
@@tiortedrootsky I’m more than happy to explain anything you want about this platform. It needs all the help it can get when it comes to popularity. I haven’t seen any good reviews showing the difference in The gas systems. But essentially when you change from one gas system to the next you’ll need to buy a whole new barrel with the new gas block attached to it, and the new op-rod that interfaces with the BCG. If you get a new barrel, say in a different caliber, but with the same gas system ( long stroke or short stroke), you’ll only have to switch out the barrel.
Feel free to message me if you need pictures to help differentiate and choose between the two systems.
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I believe most people don't or will not do business with a guy who blew up on ARFCOM years ago and abandoned the M96 program that had many flaws then did not and will not support the rifle. I remember when he wrote that post most graphic for an owner of a company. I believe people have not forgiven him for these issues. I myself wish Alex would revisit the M96 Stoner Clone the retro thing is hot if he would revisit this with the original flash suppressor and folding stock good God I would buy one but I would be cautious when dealing with him. I had an M96 one of the first that had a bunch of problems by the time I got in contact with him and his two weeks answer the final result was NO I WONT support the gun sad but true.
Theres a Robinson Arms on Texas Gun Trader unfired for $1100.It's been off and on the site for a year.NO TAKERS
real isrealite a used XCR-L just sold for 1600 yesterday on gunbroker. I think most people on local sale sites probably don’t know what they are
No other rifle compares to XCR-M in terms of ergonomics, quality material and durability, tried so many platforms and XCR beats them all by a long margin. Pricey, yes, but so is all quality stuff, mercedes, bmw, rollex and XCR is in this category...
Pricey doesn't mean quality.BMWs and Mercedes-Benz products are less reliable than Japanese cars and many American cars.They typically spend more days in the shop too.I know that cost doesn't mean quality, I have an expensive Bmw m3,compared with the Chevy SS Camaro its $40,000 more than the Camaro.My m3 is in the shop more days than the Camaro and can't outperform it either.Price doesn't determine quality.
Chris I can tell you why they're not taking the market by storm. They're heavier than their AR counter parts, cost twice as much, and don't increase performance by a measurable margin. I wish Robinson luck, and I may buy one, one day when I have $2200 burning a whole in my pocket, but I don't see a reason to spend the money. I'm sure thats part of the case with most people as well. You may point to the SCAR or other service rifles that are the same in a lot of respects, which is fair. But the SCAR is a new SOCOM service rifle and performs better than the AR10 in some respects, which is about all it has going for it.
Kyle Had a SCAR like the XCR better. Reality is there are places where the AR15 is buy original function restricted in use or ownership and “not AR15” rifles that are non restricted can cost 5 times as much... let me see? 3500.00 AR15 I need to assemble my self so I can hunt with it or a 2000.00+ XCR?
Here in Canada I can put my “Modern Sporter” down beside a Colt AR an$ I beg you to tell me it is not an AR15 other then you cannot swap the Uppers and lowers around the Two rifles are the very same charging handle, bolts p, buffers, buffer tubes, trigger groups, and so on... and the price.
The XCR is a better option... and the costs are going down..
Very intrigued by this design. It's exactly what I'd be trying to design if I had the cash and time to fart around on such a project. Only issue with this is cost and parts compatibility. He needs to be able to price this at least competitively with an X95, or else why would you buy this over a battle proven design? Until the price comes down, it seems to be a boutique gun for people who sip beverages with their pinkies dangling.
There is some truth to what you're saying but, to be fair, the XCR's are priced very good. Granted, Robinson Armament is a smaller company that hasn't been around as long as most of the gun manufacturers who have aquired a military contract in the past or present. So I understand why some people would be hesitant based off that factor alone. Personally though, I feel R.A. needs to work on his advertising above everything else. I'm sure posting more videos on CZcams that showcase the reliability of his product would go a long way. Maybe run stress tests like iraqveteran8888 periodically to promote the durability and ruggedness of the XCR's. I feel that would give the awareness needed to aquire a giant customer base and possibly a military contract. Or at least put himself and his company into a position where they can showcase their firearms to the military.
There's a docu-drama 2A script in here somewhere. Genius but sometimes prickly inventor consults for the US Govt and then goes private and submits his new innovative battle rifle prototype to replace the venerable but hugely successful M-16. Combining the best of the AKs dependability with the AR's simplicity and modularity it's instantly seen as a game changer. But he gets held back on trumped up charges by a DoD bad guy, removing him from the competition and tripling the price of his rifles. Not to be held back he sells direct to honest American civilians trying to become the new Tesla of the gun world. Will he succeed? Are his rifles that good? Stay tuned....
DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU INTERACTED WITH HIM AT ALL, ANYONE WATCHING WOULD THINK HE WAS ADDRESSING A LARGE AUDIENCE NOT JUST YOU. BUT HE'S STILL FASCINATING.
Sorry, it was just me, my iPhone and a limited amount of time
Please remove the charging handle up front and make it either easily configurable for lefties and rightes or either put it in both sides which in my opinion is better!
george kontalexis both side charging systems take up more space and add weight. As a forced right handed person I have no problems with the rifle.
@@MrAngryCanadian dumb🙄 I'll take the extra second faster response time that comes from using the configuration that is natural for me. then an extra fraction of an inch smaller size or an ounce less weight any goddamn day
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Great gun. It needs a dust cover such as the AR. Its not popular because people are like sheep. The one that has the biggest mouth wins most of the time, unfortunately.
I guess it hat to be featured in some ego shooters to gain popularity #callofdutyeffect .
They're too expensive.
I have one and have no plans of ever parting with it.