Ritchie is fuckin fearless for his size... Thats nice.. Then what...Fuckin guy dies and i cant wear his shoes..They dont respect him. Im better off with Tony. Defiantly..
Ritchie is fuckin fearless for his size... Thats nice.. Then what...Fuckin guy dies and i cant wear his shoes..They dont respect him. Im better off with Tony. Defiantly..
he cuts him right off there saying shut up basically. I don't think this is smart considering he is doing that to the protegee of the person he is trying to do business with
The old-school definition of simp still makes sense for its modern usage. A modern "simp" or "simpleton" is stupid enough to think relentlessly complimenting and showering girls in money will get them sex.
@@interestedparty75239 Essentially you have to lie and cheat and swindle (like Nucky, Like Arnold) to take the seats at the top. He didn't market himself the way they did, but in fairness to jimmy he was very young.
@@Bennahr_Fett He would never market himself or be that way for a soldier lacks the ability to be trivial. When you face death, bullshitting becomes quite hard. You cut straight to the point, for better or for worse.
I see it as simply he’s not quite a man yet. He has trouble navigating in the adult business world. Sure he can beat the life out of ya, but that’s about all.
@@alexanderzerka8477 The implication this person wishes to convey by replying to this 7 year old comment is that the comment was completely unneeded, and only pointing out the obvious.
I thought it was because Jimmy’s son mentioned something about Angela hanging out with that married couple and Jimmy beating that guy down thinking he was sleeping with her
He was a button man, nothing more nothing less. He didn’t have the ability to control his emotions or know how to play the long game to have the makings of a varsity athlete
The difference between how Jimmy Darmody and Meyer Lansky answer that "Who are you" question shows a big reason why Lansky made it and Darmody didn't. Darmody ran down a resume(that Rothstein likely already knew) and revealed info that had nothing to do with whether Rothstein could rely on him. Lansky gave Nucky Thompson a story of perseverance through adversity, told him what he could do, and gave him the numbers to prove his worth. Lansky showed he could hang with the big dogs. Darmody exposed himself as a careless child in comparison, hence Rothstein's insult about children saying "unexpected and amusing things." Great writing.
Agreed... However I did hear that Jimmy was killed off because Pitt was becoming extremely difficult to work with on set. I have a few friends that are IATSE. Whether it’s true or not, who knows. But it’s an interesting google either way...
Good catch that Nucky also asked Meyer the question “who are you?” I agree that Meyer’s personal anecdote sold himself (also how he mentions him and Charlie made more than the president). I also thought the subtle jab from Arnold about “children saying amusing things” was just another example of how good the writing was on boardwalk. Awesome post.
This was a good perception and analysis of events. However, Arnold Rothstein was going to say no regardless because he didn't know whether or not he was being set up. He reveals this to nucky in a conversation later. I think Arnold Rothstein was referring to the business proposal in general when he implied that Jimmy was the child saying unexpected and amusing things.
You can't pull that 'I'm a combat veteran and that makes me special' routine with a gangster playing at that level. And you can't ask a man with that kind of money, with that many fingers in that many pies for a straight answer when it is in his best interests to keep you on the string. This ain't The Price Is Right, kid.
This scene is proff that Jimmy did not have the inteligence to be a crime boss, he did not pick on Arnood's polite denial and had to be explained latter by Luciano
I know this is old but after reading the comments I thought I should offer another perspective: A.R. expected Jimmy to tell him about himself. He started with being a businessman and a veteran. But the problem was he was a veteran than a thief i.e., A.R.'s comment about being a bandit in the woods. In essence Jimmy couldn't be trusted because you're a family man that got married after children, and became a thief after being a war hero. So he wasn't jabbing at him being stupid for marrying after children, or for talking about himself he was just saying he left too much room for error...everywhere, in every decision
AR knew that he was trying to take over Nucky’s operation and knew it would be a stupid decision to make a deal with him after he got bested by Nucky just months before. He was only breathing because Nucky and AR made a deal and AR knew that Nucky had the political reach to get his indictment quashed while Jimmy had nothing to offer aside from the booze. When he says that he doesn’t have kids but he’s told they often say unexpected and amusing things, he’s mocking Jimmy’s age and his pitch. AR was too smart to take Jimmy seriously.
Countless amazing scenes like this throughout the series. Words can't describe how much I love this show, got all the dvds. Practically every actor gave a career-best performance.
That's how smart ppl do it. Here's a example. "Thats a nice outfit you're wearing, did you get it from a garage sale?" It's very smug. I catch it all the time when done to me and I pounce
@@eightysbaby8798 How is that anywhere near the subtlety used in this scene? How is asking if somebody got there clothes from a garage sale not an insult?
The smartest people can take you out at the legs, and you wont recognize it until you're halfway home, is something has been said of myself it's a weird talent, and I've had it happen to me, as there is always someone more sly, and more intelligent
Best HBO series in a long time....And there's a LOT of great ones out there. I love the period pieces. It's great seeing all the well-known mob guys (like luciano and lansky.....and Bugsy) basically as 'babies' in the gangster game.....
I felt bad for Jimmy in these times. Negotiating is one thing, but Jimmy never learned to play the mind games with all these gangsters, and as soon as he was about to learn, the Commodore got sick. He was in way over his head
"No, but I'm often told they say unexpected and amusing things. I appreciate you coming to me and I applaud your audacity." - That's a perfect way of shooting down Jimmy's proposal whilst simultaneously getting a sneaky insult in there comparing Jimmy to a inexperienced kid clearly unsuited for gang leadership especially after how he screwed other Rothstein last year and killed his sister in laws nephew.
@@FirewallMightyHero Human beings have a need (probably based in biology) for something that we will call the "power process." This is closely related to the need for power (which is widely recognized) but is not quite the same thing. The power process has four elements. The three most clear-cut of these we call goal, effort and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element, autonomy, is more difficult to define and may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control. Consider the hypothetical case of a man who can have anything he wants just by wishing for it. Such a man has power, but he will develop serious psychological problems. At first he will ostensibly have fun, but by and by he will become acutely bored and demoralized. Eventually he may become clinically depressed. History shows that leisured aristocracies tend to become decadent. This is not true of fighting aristocracies that have to struggle to maintain their power. But leisured, secure aristocracies that have no need to exert themselves usually become bored, hedonistic and demoralized, even though they have power. This shows that power is not enough. One must have goals toward which to exercise one's power. Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are made necessary by the climate. But the leisured aristocrat obtains these things without effort. Hence his boredom and demoralization. Non-attainment of important goals results in death if the goals are physical necessities, and in frustration if non-attainment of the goals is compatible with survival. Consistent failure to attain goals throughout life results in defeatism, low self-esteem or depression. Thus, in order to avoid serious psychological problems, a human being needs goals whose attainment requires effort, and he must have a reasonable rate of success in attaining his goals.
A lot of people don't catch that but it's pretty obvious that he's mocking him for his youth and that pitch he just gave. Rothstein was a gambler and he knew that Jimmy wasn't the horse to bet on.
Didn’t realize until a couple of years ago that a lot of the scenes where Jimmy is in the frame by himself talking he’s actually filming that scene solo with the other actors not present. Apparently this was because he couldn’t remember a lot of his lines or just refused to so they had to film some of his scenes separately without the other actors. Must’ve been a pain for production.
Wowwww... REALLY? I just randomly stumbled on this video due to my tvs algorithm.. I never got a chance to get into B.E. even tho i was a die hard SOPRANOS FAN. So on occasion I'll watch clips.. maybe that's how this scene came across me But me knowing...How great of a character actor MICHAEL PITT is.. it pains me to read this. You are right to ..its 2023 and I can't remember the last film or tv series he was in. Theres another actor ... RELATIVELY new .... Clayton Cardenas from the show THE MAYANS which is a spin off from the SONS OF ANARCHY. Who I thought was a great actor with alotta potential...being that he hadn't had many roles before landing A CO STARRING ROLE on that show .. anyways..the show became a favorite and has developed a loyal fanbase...But... BY THE 3rd season this guy was having the same issues ... showing up late ...forgetting his lines .... some said he'd be high ...and then get confrontational with some of the other actors..and apparently it was so bad ..that literally some of the other actors on the show... would give the creator ultimatums...that either he goes or they do...the difference tho is...this is his first big gig.. as a working actor..so its actually kinda crazy that in his first big opportunity he already has a crazy sense of entitlement. the appetite of the EGO is sometimes what drives certain ppl... so they supercede keeping it fed before all else .. Sad sad situation. Hope HE GETS IT TOGETHER. I'm assuming we'd all love to see the dude in something Whatever the case
Arnold asks "Who are you, Mr. Darmody?" Jimmy walks over to Arnold's desk, chugs down the milk, slams the glass down on the desk, and wipes his lips before turning and walking away. Right before leaving Jimmy turns and yells "That's who the fuck I am", walks out the office, and slams the door behind him.
I think one of the major problems with this business meeting is Jimmy's insincerity. The whole meeting itself is putting the cart before the horse and a farce. And everything he says, it's like a child standing up in class reciting something, not believing any of it. His business demeanor is just awful. Rothstein is the kind of guy who likes to deal with charismatic businessmen who are sharp, who know what to say and when to say it, and who don't just write checks.
The Gangster is the ultimate ideal of American capitalist culture - accountable to nothing except his own greed, above the law, gets to do whatever he wants unrestrained by humanity or law or God - no wonder so many of us love these films.
Jimmy : Is this your idea of a set up ..Jesus! Charlie : Thought you was a business man Jimmy : doesnt make me a simp! Charlie : you know what? go fry a fuckin egg famer John haha simple but sooo classy!
hard to say. I would say he was too haunted and broken, first by incest with his mother, then by World War I, frustrated love with his wife, and the loss of the new love in Chicago (the prostitute killed over the turf wars).
He was emotionally damaged. His decision to enter the military is what did him in. He was being groomed for leadership by Nucky, who desperately wanted him to have nothing to do with the military. His emotional baggage is what made him sign up, it was basically suicide. He had all the tools to be a leader, but he wasn't groomed properly.
My understanding and I could be wrong was that Jimmy was supposed to be a character for the whole series but the actor was painful to work with so he was killed off in the second season. I feel that to be accurate because I felt somewhat like the 2nd season jumped around a lot
Jimmy: "Do you have kids, Mr. Rothstein?" A.R: "Not, but I'm told they often say unexpected and amusing things" That's both a subtle burn and a great "I don't want to deal with you"
Jimmy reminds me of Gatsby. Both war veterans from nothing who looked to acheive the American Dream through bootlegging and other unscrupulous means. Even if Jimmy were to become a kingpin, he is out of his element and cant change who he is.
+Official Filmilen in the end this venture is what got him killed. it really wasn't even his cause either. it was more his dads cause and jimmy being the front man.
It's very important to take the STREET TUFF GUY out of business. Killing each other only jeopardizes your business opportunities. Friends are very valuable especially if you are from different states. Lucky Luciano tried his best to keep the peace and only used violence as a last resort
I’ve always said this but jimmy was an amazing character. It’s a shame the actor was difficult to work with. I would of love to see jimmy develop more.
@@terranceaddison4599 yes...after watching a slew of BE vids on CZcams I finally binged the first 2 seasons a few weeks ago.. I'm in the middle of S3.. and yes. He banged his mom.... Well actually she BANGED him. And this wasnt when he was young.. he was in college and almost grown...sounds crazy when you read it here on the comments but when you see it finally happen ...you kinda were expecting it seeing how his MOM was a Bright and gorgeous BUT TWISTED master manipulator with alotta issues .. I remember watching it happen and saying Outloud .."DONT DO IT JIMMY...DONT DO ITTTTT.... AWW YOU MOTHERFUCKER ...you sick bastard you did it" it was completely brought on by his mother tho. You wanna hear another gag... she ends up banging a stranger who looks like him Cuz she refuses to believe hes dead and calls him JAMES "JIMMY" IN S3
Believe it or not, the biggest problem with the Jimmy character was apparently half the audience at the time wanted him gone to focus more on Nucky and the historical characters.
0:04 -- apparently that's 5th Ave and Plaza North. I googled it in the 1920s and they recreated a spitting image of it here (with an obvious picture used for reference). Just something small but I love the effort put into the world.
"Do you have kids , Mr. Rothstein ? '' "No, but I'm told they say unexpected and amusing things. " What a clever way to insult someone without insulting them.
It made sense why Arnold turned down Jimmy’s offer. He spoke flat, with no enthusiasm or hunger. Zero charisma. Barely made any eye contact. Only gave true eye contact when he was rejected. Didn’t even bring up Nucky being in jail as a way to sell himself more and make himself the readily available option. Arnold knew from the jump that Jimmy was no where near the business caliber to even be in the same room as him.
Has potential. But doesn't have the experience yet to be involved with the likes of a Rothstein. Not to mention why would A.R buy from him than his mentor ?
Its rude not to answer a proposal. Especially, if said proposal comes from a "serious man"; speaking as such. Why the backdoor hoops? It shows more of Arnold, Lucky, & Meyer's business tactics than Jimmy's. Hunger is hunger. Moving a shipment to an upstart protege of the guy you've been dealing with already... Call it Plausible-cooperation ;)
Rothstein sittin at his desk like a dentist creeping around with a bottle of ether.
Nobody here can take a joke.
@@rubensano4860 breadstick in a bow tie 😂
@@Rockstopmotion why don't you go stand in the corner short pants
Jews
"I don't see you doin me any favors, amigo"
As Uncle Junior would say,
"He couldn't fuckin' sell it!"
+Asmah Noordin the old man profaci knew how to split his enemies
+Mohammed Stark Who am I better off with? We better off with?
+Asmah Noordin Hes not respected
Ritchie is fuckin fearless for his size... Thats nice.. Then what...Fuckin guy dies and i cant wear his shoes..They dont respect him. Im better off with Tony. Defiantly..
Ritchie is fuckin fearless for his size... Thats nice.. Then what...Fuckin guy dies and i cant wear his shoes..They dont respect him. Im better off with Tony. Defiantly..
In my thoughts I used the technique of positive visualization
How come I always feel undermined?
@@khangaridj3892 *giggles*
I don't know why but every time I think of Chris I think of Brandon getting thrown through the table satriellli's
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 Acting boss my ass Tone. Come on, everybody knows you really run things since Jackie became the Kemo Sabe
Open the door. Open the FUCKIN' DOOR!
Gotta love Jimmy's insincere "sorry to hear that" when Lucky mentioned he lost his father lol
he cuts him right off there saying shut up basically. I don't think this is smart considering he is doing that to the protegee of the person he is trying to do business with
he said he didnt say hello in five years not that he lost him
@GENESIS yea I gotta agree on that one. Jimmy,s trying
@GENESIS you're wrong
@@808ghostMiller you're also wrong
"Dosen't make me a SIMP"
Wo, that was ahead of its time.
dosduros I just noticed it to 😂
It was way better meaning simpleton imo
@@masonthunkwell9786 Not really, too close to Singleton, a good whiskey and what most guys on the internet are :D.
Lol the comparison
Simp 2020: fan girl account usage
1920s simp: someone who walks right into a gangster murder trap
*go fry an egg farmer john*
The old-school definition of simp still makes sense for its modern usage. A modern "simp" or "simpleton" is stupid enough to think relentlessly complimenting and showering girls in money will get them sex.
HE COULDN'T SELL IT
Im in awe of you
Rothstein is much better off with Nucky.... Definitely
uncle junior
He is not respected
@@posty1648 the jacketttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
" *Doesn't make me a simp* "
One of the best lines in the show
"Go fry a fucking egg Farmer John" beats it for me.
Did that word even exist in those days?
@@Onmysheet I believe in this case it's being used as a shortened form of simpleton.
@imbeauski8872 Oh right 😄
“cart before the horse” and Jimmy missed what AR was saying about Jimmy’s premature ambitions.
I love how straight to the point Jimmy's characters is. He's been through hell and doesn't have the time or patience for bs
It his inability to BS that prevented him from being anything above a button man. He’s a great character.
@@interestedparty75239 Essentially you have to lie and cheat and swindle (like Nucky, Like Arnold) to take the seats at the top. He didn't market himself the way they did, but in fairness to jimmy he was very young.
@@Bennahr_Fett He would never market himself or be that way for a soldier lacks the ability to be trivial. When you face death, bullshitting becomes quite hard. You cut straight to the point, for better or for worse.
I see it as simply he’s not quite a man yet. He has trouble navigating in the adult business world. Sure he can beat the life out of ya, but that’s about all.
Yeah and how'd that work out for him?
"You know what? Go fry a fuckin' egg, Farmer John!" LMAO!
lol 💀
@@Mr-ep2qi he deserved to hear that
The implication is that Jimmy was the child saying unexpected and amusing things.
@@alexanderzerka8477 The implication this person wishes to convey by replying to this 7 year old comment is that the comment was completely unneeded, and only pointing out the obvious.
@@SilasWolfe Glad you're still among the living.
I thought it was because Jimmy’s son mentioned something about Angela hanging out with that married couple and Jimmy beating that guy down thinking he was sleeping with her
Yes, because Jimmy is someone who's trying to be something that he's not really cut out for.
No, no, no. The implication was that her ass is so big she could have a mole that size removed from it
I absolutely love the subtle dig at Jimmy about being a child.
Absolutely Magnificent
Jimmy should have said "Thank you for your time."
This scene proves how little Jimmy knows about anything. He is a good at being a thug, doing hits but he was no business man.
He would have been a great business man...
@Christopher I think he was an amazing character "of course I would....to the last bullet"
@Jigga Boo true but some bosses were immature and sought advice. Quick to get physical, Capone.
@The No.1 Guy Communication is mostly non-verbal.
He was a button man, nothing more nothing less. He didn’t have the ability to control his emotions or know how to play the long game to have the makings of a varsity athlete
Jimmy was like mid-level college ball player trying to join the professionals
The difference between how Jimmy Darmody and Meyer Lansky answer that "Who are you" question shows a big reason why Lansky made it and Darmody didn't.
Darmody ran down a resume(that Rothstein likely already knew) and revealed info that had nothing to do with whether Rothstein could rely on him.
Lansky gave Nucky Thompson a story of perseverance through adversity, told him what he could do, and gave him the numbers to prove his worth.
Lansky showed he could hang with the big dogs. Darmody exposed himself as a careless child in comparison, hence Rothstein's insult about children saying "unexpected and amusing things."
Great writing.
Good post.
Agreed... However I did hear that Jimmy was killed off because Pitt was becoming extremely difficult to work with on set. I have a few friends that are IATSE. Whether it’s true or not, who knows. But it’s an interesting google either way...
Why this comment is not at the top, I'll never know.
Good catch that Nucky also asked Meyer the question “who are you?” I agree that Meyer’s personal anecdote sold himself (also how he mentions him and Charlie made more than the president).
I also thought the subtle jab from Arnold about “children saying amusing things” was just another example of how good the writing was on boardwalk.
Awesome post.
This was a good perception and analysis of events. However, Arnold Rothstein was going to say no regardless because he didn't know whether or not he was being set up. He reveals this to nucky in a conversation later. I think Arnold Rothstein was referring to the business proposal in general when he implied that Jimmy was the child saying unexpected and amusing things.
You can't pull that 'I'm a combat veteran and that makes me special' routine with a gangster playing at that level. And you can't ask a man with that kind of money, with that many fingers in that many pies for a straight answer when it is in his best interests to keep you on the string. This ain't The Price Is Right, kid.
I'd estimate the value of this comment at around one dollar.
Rothstein and Lucky cast was amazing. Love both their voices.
This scene is proff that Jimmy did not have the inteligence to be a crime boss, he did not pick on Arnood's polite denial and had to be explained latter by Luciano
Jimmy Darmody isn't just a bringand in the woods, he's a pirate of priscuitto, and a brigande of bracciole!!
My mistake - it was Vitos' cock they found Carlos lipstick on.
I heard they found a 3 ball in his side pocket
That’s why he said “A year ago” but I see you just wanted to make a joke no matter how much you had to force it 😂😂😂
@@matthewmbonu3159and Carlo’s lipstick on his cock.
@@matthewmbonu3159 Very funny Dom, very cute.
Rothstein and that damn milk haha love it
@TheRealist 811 did you two have a nasty break up
@TheRealist 811 another classic
I know this is old but after reading the comments I thought I should offer another perspective: A.R. expected Jimmy to tell him about himself. He started with being a businessman and a veteran. But the problem was he was a veteran than a thief i.e., A.R.'s comment about being a bandit in the woods. In essence Jimmy couldn't be trusted because you're a family man that got married after children, and became a thief after being a war hero. So he wasn't jabbing at him being stupid for marrying after children, or for talking about himself he was just saying he left too much room for error...everywhere, in every decision
AR knew that he was trying to take over Nucky’s operation and knew it would be a stupid decision to make a deal with him after he got bested by Nucky just months before. He was only breathing because Nucky and AR made a deal and AR knew that Nucky had the political reach to get his indictment quashed while Jimmy had nothing to offer aside from the booze. When he says that he doesn’t have kids but he’s told they often say unexpected and amusing things, he’s mocking Jimmy’s age and his pitch. AR was too smart to take Jimmy seriously.
@@Michelle-ju6vs bingo
Nowadays the "Cart before the horse" happens all the time. A lot of times, the horse never shows up. :p
Lol. 🤣
are you saying blacks make absent fathers?
@@dd.4910 actually the other way around
@@dd.4910 It's about premarital sex. Him having a son before getting married.
It's been that way since the invention of marriage.
The Dialogue in this scene is Amazing...
Tim Gates perfect show
Countless amazing scenes like this throughout the series. Words can't describe how much I love this show, got all the dvds. Practically every actor gave a career-best performance.
Go fry a fucking egg farmer John
“Do you have kids, mr. Rothstein?”
“No...but I’m told they often say unexpected and amusing things”
Am glad I passed on watching this show...now am sitting on pure gold when I finally decide to binge watch it
I am*
@@tdb4763 Blocked*
@chrisdrawry926 don't be a retard. Go to school get your GED you'll thank me later. You inbred ingrate degenerate
@@chrisdrawry926 😂😂😂
@@punani_slayer4209 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤣
He was calling Jimmy a moron for having a kid before marriage but the way he says it makes it hard to catch listen again
That's how smart ppl do it. Here's a example. "Thats a nice outfit you're wearing, did you get it from a garage sale?" It's very smug. I catch it all the time when done to me and I pounce
@@eightysbaby8798 facts
@@eightysbaby8798 How is that anywhere near the subtlety used in this scene? How is asking if somebody got there clothes from a garage sale not an insult?
The smartest people can take you out at the legs, and you wont recognize it until you're halfway home, is something has been said of myself it's a weird talent, and I've had it happen to me, as there is always someone more sly, and more intelligent
I think AR was talking about the whole conversation because I believe he lost interest as soon as Jimmy started talking.
Best HBO series in a long time....And there's a LOT of great ones out there. I love the period pieces. It's great seeing all the well-known mob guys (like luciano and lansky.....and Bugsy) basically as 'babies' in the gangster game.....
There are the litteral God father's of American gangsters they wrote the books on it. And laid the foundation and caused organized crime to take over
I felt bad for Jimmy in these times. Negotiating is one thing, but Jimmy never learned to play the mind games with all these gangsters, and as soon as he was about to learn, the Commodore got sick. He was in way over his head
Jimmy: "Sorry to hear it."
Lucky: surprised pikachu face
Rothstein's subtle passive-aggressive insults are infuriating. Watching Nucky beat him at poker was cathartic to say the least.
Yeah he honestly was just a prick who thought he was better than everyone else
"No, but I'm often told they say unexpected and amusing things. I appreciate you coming to me and I applaud your audacity." - That's a perfect way of shooting down Jimmy's proposal whilst simultaneously getting a sneaky insult in there comparing Jimmy to a inexperienced kid clearly unsuited for gang leadership especially after how he screwed other Rothstein last year and killed his sister in laws nephew.
"screwed other"
lmao
you probably voted for Trump
@@chrisdawson1776 what does a typo have to do with who he voted for?
@@Loooooooooooool1 Shut up
@@chrisdawson1776 get help
@@FirewallMightyHero Human beings have a need (probably based in biology) for something that we will call the "power process." This is closely related to the need for power (which is widely recognized) but is not quite the same thing. The power process has four elements. The three most clear-cut of these we call goal, effort and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element, autonomy, is more difficult to define and may not be necessary for every individual. But most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control.
Consider the hypothetical case of a man who can have anything he wants just by wishing for it. Such a man has power, but he will develop serious psychological problems. At first he will ostensibly have fun, but by and by he will become acutely bored and demoralized. Eventually he may become clinically depressed. History shows that leisured aristocracies tend to become decadent. This is not true of fighting aristocracies that have to struggle to maintain their power. But leisured, secure aristocracies that have no need to exert themselves usually become bored, hedonistic and demoralized, even though they have power. This shows that power is not enough. One must have goals toward which to exercise one's power.
Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are made necessary by the climate. But the leisured aristocrat obtains these things without effort. Hence his boredom and demoralization.
Non-attainment of important goals results in death if the goals are physical necessities, and in frustration if non-attainment of the goals is compatible with survival. Consistent failure to attain goals throughout life results in defeatism, low self-esteem or depression.
Thus, in order to avoid serious psychological problems, a human being needs goals whose attainment requires effort, and he must have a reasonable rate of success in attaining his goals.
2:03 Jimmy: Do you have kids Mr. Rothstein?
Rothstein: No, but I am told they often say unexpected and amusing things.
Implying, Jimmy was just a kid.
Niceeee
The precision of the AR intonation is almost like music.
When I hear Rothstein asking milk everytime, it's always like Agent Hans Landa asking for milk, in the movie Inglorious Bastards
I get the same vibes
The difference between Jimmy and Meyer answering "Who are you"
Wow that line at the end about kids saying humorous things was totally a jab at Jimmy and at the same time making sense in the conversation. Brilliant
A lot of people don't catch that but it's pretty obvious that he's mocking him for his youth and that pitch he just gave. Rothstein was a gambler and he knew that Jimmy wasn't the horse to bet on.
"You know Quasimodo predicted all of this."
Jimmy never had the makings of a varsiety athlete
kmit321 he'd make you get ur shinebox tho
This varsity athlete shit is getting really old
spoda81 so are the fuckin shinebox jokes. Theyre one in the same lol
Nobody has AIDS!
Haha haha
I love all this gangster analysis.....very applicable to office politics.
That glass of milk makes Rothstein passive-aggressive AS FUCK!
That's gangster. I love milk!!.
Didn’t realize until a couple of years ago that a lot of the scenes where Jimmy is in the frame by himself talking he’s actually filming that scene solo with the other actors not present. Apparently this was because he couldn’t remember a lot of his lines or just refused to so they had to film some of his scenes separately without the other actors. Must’ve been a pain for production.
Explains why Michael Pitt barely works anymore
Wowwww... REALLY? I just randomly stumbled on this video due to my tvs algorithm.. I never got a chance to get into B.E. even tho i was a die hard SOPRANOS FAN.
So on occasion I'll watch clips.. maybe that's how this scene came across me
But me knowing...How great of a character actor MICHAEL PITT is.. it pains me to read this.
You are right to ..its 2023 and I can't remember the last film or tv series he was in.
Theres another actor ... RELATIVELY new .... Clayton Cardenas from the show THE MAYANS which is a spin off from the SONS OF ANARCHY. Who I thought was a great actor with alotta potential...being that he hadn't had many roles before landing A CO STARRING ROLE on that show ..
anyways..the show became a favorite and has developed a loyal fanbase...But... BY THE 3rd season this guy was having the same issues ... showing up late ...forgetting his lines .... some said he'd be high ...and then get confrontational with some of the other actors..and apparently it was so bad ..that literally some of the other actors on the show... would give the creator ultimatums...that either he goes or they do...the difference tho is...this is his first big gig.. as a working actor..so its actually kinda crazy that in his first big opportunity he already has a crazy sense of entitlement.
the appetite of the EGO is sometimes what drives certain ppl... so they supercede keeping it fed before all else ..
Sad sad situation.
Hope HE GETS IT TOGETHER. I'm assuming we'd all love to see the dude in something
Whatever the case
Jimmy never had the makings of a Varsity Business man
Arnold asks "Who are you, Mr. Darmody?"
Jimmy walks over to Arnold's desk, chugs down the milk, slams the glass down on the desk, and wipes his lips before turning and walking away.
Right before leaving Jimmy turns and yells "That's who the fuck I am", walks out the office, and slams the door behind him.
lol Rothstein would then be like "Bitch done drank my milk!" O_O And Charlie would be trying not to burst out laughing
"Hey, Hey I'm talking to you Jersey prick! I was going have cookies with that! Don't you fucking walk away from me!'
lmaooooooo
That only happens in nerds minds
The irony is that had he done that, AR _might_ have respected Jimmy for showing gumption.
MORE PLEASE!!! i love this show!
Its not that he couldn't sell it. Its that hes dead inside.
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Best wishes to everyone on 2021.
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Charlie "Lucky" Luciano more like Charlie "Sassy" Luciano
In Buttpipe Empire.
It’s interesting the way AR asked one important question who are you in comparison to Nucky who got powerful friends and good connections.
Jimmy said it doesn’t make me a simp
Marrying a lesbian does.
@@slim420MM oof I just remembered
I think one of the major problems with this business meeting is Jimmy's insincerity. The whole meeting itself is putting the cart before the horse and a farce. And everything he says, it's like a child standing up in class reciting something, not believing any of it. His business demeanor is just awful. Rothstein is the kind of guy who likes to deal with charismatic businessmen who are sharp, who know what to say and when to say it, and who don't just write checks.
2:04 Wow, I never got that AR is calling Jimmy a child here.
The Gangster is the ultimate ideal of American capitalist culture -
accountable to nothing except his own greed, above the law, gets to do
whatever he wants unrestrained by humanity or law or God - no wonder so
many of us love these films.
Jimmy : Is this your idea of a set up ..Jesus!
Charlie : Thought you was a business man
Jimmy : doesnt make me a simp!
Charlie : you know what? go fry a fuckin egg famer John
haha simple but sooo classy!
Jimmy had carisma, but was not smart enough to run a big operation
hard to say. I would say he was too haunted and broken, first by incest with his mother, then by World War I, frustrated love with his wife, and the loss of the new love in Chicago (the prostitute killed over the turf wars).
@TheRealist 811 Had the commodore not interfered, maybe things would've turned out differently.
@@Ruosteinenknight Yes Jimmy relationship with his father was also another thorn that helped broke and haunt him,.
He was emotionally damaged. His decision to enter the military is what did him in. He was being groomed for leadership by Nucky, who desperately wanted him to have nothing to do with the military. His emotional baggage is what made him sign up, it was basically suicide. He had all the tools to be a leader, but he wasn't groomed properly.
My understanding and I could be wrong was that Jimmy was supposed to be a character for the whole series but the actor was painful to work with so he was killed off in the second season. I feel that to be accurate because I felt somewhat like the 2nd season jumped around a lot
THIS MAN WAS A MASTERMIND BIGG UP AR !!
i love that subtle insult aswell
Jimmy: "Do you have kids, Mr. Rothstein?"
A.R: "Not, but I'm told they often say unexpected and amusing things"
That's both a subtle burn and a great "I don't want to deal with you"
Jimmy reminds me of Gatsby. Both war veterans from nothing who looked to acheive the American Dream through bootlegging and other unscrupulous means. Even if Jimmy were to become a kingpin, he is out of his element and cant change who he is.
He was only meant to be a soldier
Nothing more
Rothstein's way to broach the question of having kids is the best response
He should have said no my boyfriend swallows
I love that Jimmy is so Unafraid and stand Firm on his Cause
+Official Filmilen in the end this venture is what got him killed. it really wasn't even his cause either. it was more his dads cause and jimmy being the front man.
It's very important to take the STREET TUFF GUY out of business. Killing each other only jeopardizes your business opportunities. Friends are very valuable especially if you are from different states. Lucky Luciano tried his best to keep the peace and only used violence as a last resort
3:41 simp was a word back then??
I’ve always said this but jimmy was an amazing character. It’s a shame the actor was difficult to work with. I would of love to see jimmy develop more.
CapuletRose I still can’t wrap around my head that he had sex with his mother! I was shocked
Patti Burton Salmonsen she practically raped him. She’s a psycho.
Holy fuck... really?
@@terranceaddison4599 yes...after watching a slew of BE vids on CZcams I finally binged the first 2 seasons a few weeks ago.. I'm in the middle of S3.. and yes. He banged his mom....
Well actually she BANGED him. And this wasnt when he was young.. he was in college and almost grown...sounds crazy when you read it here on the comments but when you see it finally happen ...you kinda were expecting it seeing how his MOM was a Bright and gorgeous BUT TWISTED master manipulator with alotta issues ..
I remember watching it happen and saying Outloud
.."DONT DO IT JIMMY...DONT DO ITTTTT.... AWW YOU MOTHERFUCKER ...you sick bastard you did it" it was completely brought on by his mother tho.
You wanna hear another gag... she ends up banging a stranger who looks like him Cuz she refuses to believe hes dead and calls him JAMES "JIMMY" IN S3
Believe it or not, the biggest problem with the Jimmy character was apparently half the audience at the time wanted him gone to focus more on Nucky and the historical characters.
0:04 -- apparently that's 5th Ave and Plaza North. I googled it in the 1920s and they recreated a spitting image of it here (with an obvious picture used for reference). Just something small but I love the effort put into the world.
"Do you have kids , Mr. Rothstein ? ''
"No, but I'm told they say unexpected and amusing things. "
What a clever way to insult someone without insulting them.
Just started binging again yesterday.
3:40 He said SIMP! Guy is ahead of his time.
Lucky shoulda told Jimmy as Uncle junior told Ritchie “Jimmy...we can’t get too fucked up by this set back. We gotta screw our courage to the post.”
Exactly. I don't know why people commenting don't agree...boardwalk is full of double euntandres like this..the writing is that good.
David Carpenter in opinion this show belongs up there with the greats, but it’s overlooked for some reason
"I'm a businessman just doing business"
Nice glass of milk to wash down the ether
that smile when jimmy's buttering rothstein up haha
@ 2:09 reminiscent of Don Corleone having to explain @ a mtg that Santino ought to not be interrupting lol
It made sense why Arnold turned down Jimmy’s offer. He spoke flat, with no enthusiasm or hunger. Zero charisma. Barely made any eye contact. Only gave true eye contact when he was rejected. Didn’t even bring up Nucky being in jail as a way to sell himself more and make himself the readily available option. Arnold knew from the jump that Jimmy was no where near the business caliber to even be in the same room as him.
Jimmy was a soldier, not a leader or a mobster.
Haha, AR. If he saw that state of affairs now he'd soil himself with contempt.
People be puttin' 5+ carriages out before they even HAVE a horse.
tjat happened back then also
AR acting top notch
Rothstein: "You're better spoken than I expected..." Typical!
The reference to children say amusing and unexpected things was a veiled frevernce to Jimmy
Damn
"Nucky is like a father to me."
...
"I'm told children often say unexpected and amusing things."
Ouch.
Jimmy didn't serve 20 years in the can..but he survived WW 1
Yakuza reference?! Nice! Or Sopranos reference, also nice!
Jackie Jr.: He couldn't sell it..
I love that half of the comments below are a synthesis of Sopranos/Boardwalk.
best scene in television history!!!
Has potential. But doesn't have the experience yet to be involved with the likes of a Rothstein. Not to mention why would A.R buy from him than his mentor ?
Its rude not to answer a proposal. Especially, if said proposal comes from a "serious man"; speaking as such. Why the backdoor hoops? It shows more of Arnold, Lucky, & Meyer's business tactics than Jimmy's. Hunger is hunger. Moving a shipment to an upstart protege of the guy you've been dealing with already... Call it Plausible-cooperation ;)
Michael Pitt is amazing, too bad he couldn't cool it behind the scenes and just get long
He's an egomaniac
Basically Rothstein is saying jimmys still a boy
🎶 where the tuna fish play 🎵
“With a hat like that it oughta come with a free bowl of soup....oh! Looks good on YOU though! 🙄”
“Go fry a fucken egg, Farmer John.” Lol classic!
Charlie was trying to offer Jimmy help there, I don't know why he started being a smart-arse to him.
No kids, but I heard they say unexpected & amusing things. Arnold talks like a machine 😆
AR's the fucking man.
A.R. The Boss of New York with the greatest prodigy Corporation Lansky Luciano Bugsey
Arnold's estimation of Jimmy as a boss just fuckin plummeted.
He's the king of shade.
"no. but i'm told they often say unexpected and amusing things." that is the most polite bitch slap i've ever heard