The New Maserati GranTurismo SHOCKED Us - TheSmokingTire
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Maserati's first-generation Gran Turismo lived a LONG time - 11 years without a major refresh, before quietly being discontinued. Now, it's returned looking subtly upgraded, still with stunning good looks, but totally different to drive and use. It's got the Nettuno twin-turbo V6 mounted entirely behind the front axle, standard all-wheel-drive, and a trick electronic rear differential, for razor-sharp handling. It has an all-new interior with all the tech you'd want and nothing more, ussable switchgear, and great seats. And while the price is high, as Matt explains, it's probably where it needs to be. Maserati's refresh of the GranTurismo gives us a lot of confidence in their ability to deliver the goods to real enthusiasts.
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what kinda watch you wearing?
Glad Matt is coming around to Maserati. They have the intangible benefit of still feeling exotic, with genuinely unique platforms. In a world where Porsche has become the iPhone in terms of dominance, it's refreshing to have compelling alternatives
Dealers are already advetising $50K off, so we know it's not worth its price tag. But a really appealing car nonetheless.
If I wait long enough, will I get paid to take one of these off their hands?
220k is the craziest thing I ever heard.
Its going to be the best 60k car in 4 years you can get
@@mapko15we have the downturn so many are expecting in the next year it may not take that long!
@@jaioncebollero1168 go to an inflation calculator and put in a 2019 number and compare to 2023 for a huge mind blow
I think the base Modena has all the power you can actually USE, and the Trofeo models aren't worth the extra cost. This is one of the last great (true) GTs. I would love to own one.
Oh yes, I was wating for someone to review it. And thank God it's you, someone who actually knows how to drive the car...
Looks cute. It’s a slight update of the classic design showing how timeless it really is. The mechanical updates are also impressive. I feel most people will overlook this not just due to the brand name but too much similarities to the older cars in outward appearance.
We call that "The Porsche Problem". - Zack
@@TheSmokingTireThankfully Porsche prices don't drop like a rock after release like Maseratis do.
@@TheSmokingTire This particular case of Porsche Problem will be exacerbated by a decent 2019 V8 one being ~$68k too. 150k+ less to look the same and sound better, even if the driving dynamics aren't as good will be a problem.
Amazing to see Maserati actually putting quality back into their lineup, you can tell they are really going all with these last couple of models. When I saw the Italian flag inside that interior I thought "wow, that is Italian design and quality". I have been a hater on Maserati for a long time but I'm really liking what they are putting out recently.
This will definitely be an intriguing car couple years down the line once the used ones are in the market and depreciation hits
Yes but parts will be expensive
One of my coworkers has a 2015 GT MC and it sounds wonderful. He certainly has had his share of electrical gremlins with the car(he bought it as a one year old car in 2016. He said it's been relatively good the last 2/3 years, but he does only drive it on the weekends. He also put some lowering springs on it as the wheel gap was pretty horrendous. Personally I'll stick with Porsche, the Targa when shopping comparative models.
I own the 10yo 4.7l v8 version I got for 30k. Best driving experience ever. Waiting for it to start appreciating back up ;)
i really wish they let Alfa have a lightweight manual 2wd version since they used their excellent homework 😔
The Giulia was the most promising thing to come out of the whole conglomerate in the past 10 years. It’s an absolute mistake that they didn’t make a coupe, convertible and wagon out of it, and an even bigger shame that Alfa didn’t get to use their own 2.9 V6 for more production models
Wow, this Maserati is a fantastic car! Great job!
Not for 220,000 it's not.
Beautiful car. Hope they never stop making it like the 911. Just keep making it better.
😂
Thanks, Matt. And Maserati dealers are giving $40,000 discounts off sticker on the Modena, perhaps even more on the Trofeo. And this car is, arguably, the prettiest of all, or in any case, most, of the cars you compared it to.
I hate the fact that this no longer has the Ferrari derived V8 in it
The old "Ferrari" derived V8 was overrated anyways, didn't sound that great and wouldn't have been considered that special had it not had the Ferrari designation. This new engine is a massive improvement
It kind of does if you squint a little. Its a continued evolution of the Alfa Quadrafolgio Twin Turbo V6 which by all account is just that Ferrari v8 with 2 cylinder lopped off.
it sounded amazing! what are you on about haha@@tehgzizlauw1787
@@tehgzizlauw1787the old engine was one of the best sounding combustion engines ever!
If you think the F136 V8 engines “didn’t sound that great” that’s crazy. It was a reliable engine and sounded amazing. Saying it wasn’t special if it wasn’t designed by Ferrari is pointless. Picking any good sounding engine and saying “well if it wasn’t made by so-and-so it wouldn’t be special” has the same pointlessness. It WAS designed by Ferrari. It wasn’t the most powerful engine, but had they developed it more they could have improved the 440hp figure. Compression ratio, small displacement bump, head rework, exhaust, cam reworks could pull out maybe another 40hp to make it 480hp or so. Albeit expensive, people have gone to some aftermarket exhaust to improve the power already.
This new engine is way worse in sound and presumably in reliability too. The only way it’s “better” is in horsepower.
These are indeed amazing cars!
I can't think of any vehicle available today which depreciates faster than a Maserati.
It's functionally identical to getting a huge pile of money, and setting it on fire.
This is a car you buy as an expense for sure. My biggest concern is has Maserati fixed their reliability problem
Say what you want, but Maserati and Alfa Romeo have stepped their game up the last 10 years.
its a shame 90% of english speaking car enthusiasts wont let them forget the era when they didnt have the funds to properly compete and just use it as an opportunity to shit on Italians as if they weren't culturally capable of competing (despite most of the German car companies being government supported in subtle but important ways)
Too bad they are unreliable cars but it doesnt matter,most poeple who buy them get rid once the warranty is out lol.
@@alpe6228 Seen how unreliable this car is with my own eyes. Guy in town got one recently and it was broken down on the road by my house. Daily drove his Aston for years with no issues.
I had a 2020 Levante and it was a huge POS. The interior felt like I was driving a Chrysler 300 from 2010
@@FreshlySnipesBoth levante and ghibli are shit
The commercial was pure gold, the anecdote that he forgets to eat sometimes you never forget to eat my man you just keep getting bigger.
But you can get an MC20 (pre owned) for almost the same money or less. Still a looker though.
Personally, I think a six is enough. But that V8 in the last generation was glorious. Also, that price...it's $40,000 too expensive, especially when you consider the existence of the LC500.
I agree but despite being a version of the ferrari V8 with two cylinders missing a 90 degree V6 will always be less than a thoroughbred engine. would actually rather they upgraded their last 60 degree V6 to have a closed deck since it was also designed by Ferrari, it was just optimized for mass production.
Love these cars but agree, the LC500 is objectively the better car hands down. It is also the rare Lexus with soul and character. Wouldn't mind having one as a GT car for long road trips to regions with fun twisty sections now and then. Maybe the Maser after depreciation has done its work.
Ya but performance wise… the maserati is light years above the lexus. Lexus looks good. Sounds great. But performance is on par with a base wrx lol. So just depends wat you want. Want something that looks good, comfortable and performs like a high end sports car u go masi. U want looks and comfort without performance u go lexus. U want performance and looks u go porsche. Its all preference.
@@kingrabbit101 Oh yeah fully agree on performance. I just think for the price AND if my interest with performance there are better cars out there for that money .... but again like you say, all preference. At the end of the day I love it that we as auto enthusiasts have so many options!
That’s a uniquely American viewpoint - nobody in Europe would consider spending more than 75k (pounds or Euros) on a Lexus, hence as cars have gotten more expensive the brand has virtually disappeared from European markets. Their cars simply aren’t good enough to overcome Lexus’s fundamental lack of desirability.
Fantastic! Great review and what a great car it seems to be.
Isn’t it a bit like a 2-door Giulia Quadrifoglio with AWD, air suspension and extended leather? I say this as a compliment 🔥
Cant wait for these to be 50k in 3 years.
Love the switching between camera angles in this one. Great video Matt.
So let me get this straight…..someone in marketing at Maserati said we should price this car $80k more than the last one that we couldn’t sell unless we threw $50k rebates or crazy lease deals at it 🤔
I mean do they realize you could have a brand new Lexus LC500 Coupe ……AND an LC500 Convertible…..AAAANNNNDD about $15k leftover for the price of one of these 🤦🏻♂️🙄
Ok but its a lexus, not a maserati. Stop talking like a brokie.
The Lexus is no where near as sporty in terms of driving dynamics. Yeah it looks great but it's kind of a big couch.
@@ahmedxkhan haha! I love how you act like Maserati is some prestigious brand despite leasing Ghibli’s for $399/mo to all the bust out wannabes to say they have a Maserati and how majority of dealerships are shared with Dodge/Jeep/RAM 🤦🏻♂️
@@elnyoutube123 yeah I owned one and I don’t disagree, I just used that as an example because I feel like the majority of the target buyers if that segment won’t appreciate that the Maseratis slightly more performance. There are plenty of other equations of cars that could be used obviously as well depending on your needs/preferences
Yeah but which one feels more special on the road.
I just love the clinical and concise approach to your reviews. Great watch!
With Maserati depreciation this thing will be in the $60's 2-3 years from now.
And falls apart 1 year later
@@ricksmith7659I really hope that isn't the case. I don't care about the depreciation but I do care about the reliability
Great Matt, now I want another car you’ve reviewed!! I’m having trouble saving up for these machines 😂
Will be a great car to buy used after it depreciates heavily
and soon after, it won't be worth repairing.
Only a moron would buy one of these used
I will buy it for 8000$ in 2030
You’ll need it professionally cleaned to avoid a fentanyl OD. Just from sitting in it.
The way Maserati depreciate.. It'll be $8000 by 2026 😂
Maserati has become a one stop shop. Has better cars than Mercedes, Audi and BMW in all segments.
That shot of the engine bay is crazy, with the motor so far to the rear.
Anyway, reversed "GUM BALL 3000" patch on the jacket is quite an uncomfortable 😂
Hey Matt, what kind of watch are you wearing on this video? Omega?
To be fair considering the discounts on MSRP Maserati dealers are openly offering this is more like a $150- $170,000 car.
Great used car to buy for 150k
Still nothing worth it for the price. Porsche and Austin Martin vantage over this thing
I love when you do videos alone bro. I dont know why, but Zach can be off putting quite a bit, maybe it’s just me…. Anyways, stoked for this one
You could buy this...or a corvette, truck, trailer, and small bass boat.
Yes if you are fat and white a vette is the way to go
Love it. I would choose another color though, as they do have some really nice ones. And of course we miss the Ferrari engine, but Maserati GT is an iconic model and carries that new Maserati engine in a chassis that is made to cruise and flow through curves. It has remained consistent in styling and by now is very well developed. My brother had a deep wine colored Ferrari V8 engine Quattroporte which was very nice and quick as well, so I can imagine the GT being that sweet step up in handling and form and a classy drive as well. A solid luxurious build. I also wish it were priced a bit lower, but seeing all the competitions pricing, Maserati probably had to slot it in there. Still, if they decided to lower it a bit, they would have so many more customers who might not want the standard cars we see to much from other brands. Always nice to see a sweet Maserati GT! Cue Blue Oyster Cult "Maserati GT(I Ain't Got You)"
I saw one of these cars at the Atlanta Motorsports Park race track in North Georgia on Sunday and it's a stunning car. If I had the cash I'd buy it over the MB SL AMG, and BMW M8. Prob take it over an Aston Martin Vantage. It would've been great if they made it sound like the old V8 Barry White inspired engine.
Anyone know what watch Matt is wearing? Love the blue faded strap too.
Looks like the GS Carl Ruiz LE
I remember when most car manufacturers didn't even make SUVs, I hate them. Im excited for any small, engaging, coupes made for drivers. The E82 135i, the Alpine A110, for example
I’m liking the full-beard look. Great review, as always!
Dunno. I’m thinking Ming the Merciless from the Flash Gordon movie…
Good review...always drive a car to know what its really like...I've driven two cars that when moving my foot from accelerator pedal to brake pedal I've touched the steering column so they were a no no!
Hey Matt.
Happy New Year. All the Very BEST to you, your family & loved ones in 2024 and beyond🙂
Thx for the post (again). You bring us along on opportunities that we simply don't have the connections for, time or canyons to test out these cars & vehicles the way you do.
Sincerely - TY TY TY!!!
I'm seeing some interesting comments about the sound of the previous gen Maserati GranTurismo. Here's a clip to remind everyone of how AWESOME that v-8 sounds.
czcams.com/video/Sn2e-24cVng/video.html
Also, you often use the phrase "Heads Up Display", Just a reminder that it's a Head Up Display.
Cheers from Vancouver, Canada.
Finally, Maserati is making some impressive, competitive cars! It’s been a long time since they were up to the performance of all the other cars you mentioned. I really can’t afford one now but great job to Maserati for really upping their game with this and the MC20.
Always like the look but the price is silly. However, the fact that its now AWD makes it much more viable 911 alternative in Canada.
Honestly if I want a front-mid engined car that costs less than 200-300k, I’d buy the Gen 1 AMG GT R. Diff car yes, but if it’s a drivers car with bootspace, that fits the bill imo
Sooooo stifffff though. - ZK
I like how the styling hasn't changed much... still a very beautiful car. Some of the styling on other vehicles is getting a little to angular and oddball aggressive Japanese chimpokomon or whatever that crap is.
Anyway, not sure if I've ever heard you say or not, but how do you prefer paddle shifters? Wheel mounted or column mounted? I myself like the mostly Italian way with column mounted paddles so they are always in the same place while making tight turns.
I think in terms of induction noise in cabin the V6 sounds pretty exotic. I am sad about the V8 going away, but it seems like a different car, modeled around a more peppy drivetrain. Would be cool to see a 2019 V8 model One Take if you haven't done one already. As for reliability, I know the V8 wasn't known to be dependable but surely a turbo, direct injected, cylinder deactivated italian engine will be worse.
The V8 was reliable, they took an engine designed to rev high with very high tolerances and made it rev much lower and produced less power. They were very under stressed for what they were.
I'd wait for the Folgore!
Can't wait to pick this up for 25K in 2030
yes u should take Maserati seriously!!!! one of the best luxury sounding GT cars on the road!!!!
Should've been a TTV8 or better at that price
Hey Matt I dig the GS! And of course the driving!
I used to have a Maserati Grandturismo with the 4.7...sure it had its faults...but I also bought it knowing it wasn't designed to be the fastest GT, I knew it's intent was to generate an emotional response from the driver. In a world on porsches, which I consider it to be its direct competition...saying you drive a Porsche and saying you drive a Maserati...invoke very different responses from the individual you're talking to.
It's like showing up in a Lamborghini or an Aston Martin...pretty close to the same price..not the Aventedor. I had an Aston Martin DB9 and it was the slowest in the group..but the reaction I received after saying I owned an Aston Martin..was from what I can see, better than my friend that owned a Lamborghini
Prefer the looks of the outgoing GT, which still is the best looking GT of the 21st century and it has aged so well.
Those pedals are meant for pointy italian shoes
I look forward to seeing these for sale used in a few years, with 80% depreciation.
Swap out the exhaust use magnaflow mufflers ittyl prolly sound amazing
Another great review Mr Farah
Pricing is crazy, bought my wife the same drivetrain, chassis and interior in a Grecale trofeo for half the money and twice the practicality. For the money it needed the real nettuno engine from mc20, glass roof and ceramics at a minimum
Good analysis; the street price now is sub $150,000 for a current year model. Free Market reigns!
That engine is waaay back there! I remember someone making a comment on a previous video saying you should invest in corner scales so that you can verify the claims of these manufacturers.
That Grand Seiko is gorgeous!
Price is just insane. Can pick up an amg GTC for 100k. There’s no shot this is twice the car to the amg. It’s awesome but that msrp is absolutely outrageous
You can buy a great used AMG or Maserati GT for under 25k.
No way in hell I would pay 150k. They depreciate like a rock
What’s the point in comparing a new cars’ worth against the used price of one of its rivals? You could apply your logic to pretty much any model comparison and keep coming to the same meaningless conclusion. The new GT63 will be around $190k plus options, so there’s your actual comparative basis. Now try again.
@@neilturner6749 Exactly
@@neilturner6749 The point is the depreciation of this specific vehicle which is precisely why I stated it.
No you can't use that logic because other vehicles don't depreciate as fast as this Maserati.
I think this car will depreciate hard (at least I hope it does lol) but when it does it will be an absolute bargain. Can’t justify sticker price for it but around or just under 100 grand used, this car would be an ideal pick. Very excited to see the direction Maserati is taking & I’m sure a good tuning company like AWE can bring the V6 exhaust note to life.
P.S. - Love the jacket! Very cool, especially with the patches. Need that Gum Ball one.
Happy new year I-Guess?🤣😎👍🏼
Yes, it doesnt sound as good as the outgoing V8 but c'mon, this is a good sounding V6.
Completely agreed. Avoids the rasp of the standard V6 and goes for a clean, deep baritone sound. That said, a twin-turbo V8 would have been better.
good to see, built on the Giorgio/Giulia/Stelvio Quadrifoglio platform and drivetrain, with nettuno heads and mods on the engine. apart from the wet fart exhaust sound.....
I have a 2017 Gran Turismo MC and honestly i think if Maserati would sell the new GT around $90-100k they would sell it like pan cakes
What's that wooshing sound? That's the sound of this car depreciating!
I don't know if I'm feeling these videos with 80% of the time the camera looking at you driving. The dash view doesn't add much either. POV style or even a cockpit camera looking at your inputs would be a lot more interesting to watch for a 20m video.
For $170K there are just so many other options where people don't have to worry about reliability and sourcing parts.
Thanks for the video! Really liked it
We need to start printing Maserati fan shirts that read, "I REALLY DEPRECIATE A GOOD MASERATI."
Where is the cyber truck?
Is that a Seiko Samurai? fuego my guy
Do you have any idea of that German military badging 😂
Looking well keep up the fitness 💪
Nice jacket Kramer.
Matt, you're looking good, bud!
150 I could of got behind but not at this price, I would even think about a turbo or M8 comp over this
Huge improvement!
Goes, sounds great, nice interior
This guy’s old videos with people’s rides were so much better.
Easiest fix for your foot hitting something between the gas/brake is to use left foot braking. When I'm not driving a manual, I use left foot braking to keep my foot busy. No, I don't ride the brake. No I don't constantly hover over or rest my foot on the pedal. Much faster response time, and with a paddle shift, it's a good way to go.
I can't stand people who do this. Driving with the brake lights constantly on. I know you specified "you don't hover over the pedal", but it'll still happen regardless. You won't know it, but all of us behind you surely do! Maybe you're the best two foot driver out there, but I definitely wouldn't suggest to people that they do this since it's a very unsafe habit (for the people behind you) to have.
@@jeffs6090 I'm not a fan of people who assume without ever seeing me how I do it, but especially when pointing out exactly how I don't do what you assume I do. So does everyone driving a clutch automatically ride it no matter what, since clearly by your assumptions they have to rest their foot on the clutch like you assume is being done with the brakes? There's a dead pedal/flat spot to the left of the pedals for a reason. The technique I use is a valid one. Not touching the brake pedal except when applying them. Go learn how to do it, appreciate the extra control you get once you learn and thank me later.
Very nice wrist watch. Is this maby a Grand Seiko SBGX337
Great review. And a really nice car.
Currently pipedreaming about a zero performance/all luxury version of this car badge engineered into a Citroën/DS, Stellantis sister brands of Maserati
better than FCA
Couldn’t live with that exhaust sound
Maserati knocked it out of the park with this car, learned from their (few) mistakes with the last gen GT, another timeless design. You gotta figure that its target consumer is someone who already owns a bonafide supercar and this is more of a daily driver, so I am not the least bit surprised by the price tag, but as you said it makes sense and is reasonable when put into perspective. I think the more surprising fact is that the MC20 is priced so low, wouldn't be surprised to see that rise in the near future.
I had to double check the release date of this video. Thought the MC20 replaced the Grant Turismo
What watch is that, Matt? Very striking dial color.
Thank you 🙏 man that reely
Beautiful. Lease it or 50% depreciated,1 year old CPO .. Hell Yesss plz.
I own an M8 and recently started thinking about getting something different. There’s no way I will trade it for this car. Even if it was cheaper. $229 is insanity! New AMG GT looks promising though.
How does cylinder deactivation work? if we're not spraying/sparking the deactivated cylinders, aren't those cylinders just engine braking? unless they can somehow open the valves of deactivated cylinders? but wouldn't the cams continue to turn?
Bloody hell, that’s one monster of a question that I’m not even going to attempt to answer my friend, as I haven’t got all day! All I’d say is that, having it on my 4.0 718 (and Porsche generally do technical wizardry better than most) it sucks, making weird noises as it switches cylinder banks and generally not giving the smooth, uninterrupted power delivery you’d expect on an expensive car.
Whether it delivers the 3% to 5% efficiency improvement claimed I can’t tell you, because thankfully it has one great redeeming feature - an OFF button. It’s a bit like engine start/stop - great for the official CO2 figures but a pain to live with.
In the Nettuno engine the deactivated bank is always the right one.
It is deactivated the injection, the ignition electrical system and all the valves put in closed position. The trapped air acts as an air spring.
They save about 7% of fuel.
@@donkeymarco that really sounds like it’s just creating more resistance for the other side to overcome
One thing about the weight, Italian auto makers often list the weight of their cars without fluids, so no oil, transmission fluid, etc.
I can’t wait until these are worth the same as a CPO Camry 😂
The maintenance costs don’t depreciate
hold your breath
Wait, didn’t he say it had a V6 at the beginning of the video? I know, I know, everybody makes mistakes, but how about a subtitle at the bottom of the screen stating so?
Beautiful car, but wish it was still a V8 RWD. That motor sounded so good.
Saw a white one today. looked really nice
$150k max driving experience we will see ya on the carmax lot