Yeah reminds me of my relatives, and he holds his hands next to his waist like they did too! He's a relic, great to hear his stories before he's gone ( and others).
I remember when these first came out. You couldn't help but look at it. It's one of those designs that was so different and appealing. The car just commands attention.
These Sevilles were honestly high quality car inside and out (shame about what's under the hood), and experiencing a nice example in person is a special experience.
I was disappointed when these cars came out because I like the previous generation so much better but then it grew on me like anything else now I totally get it
Amazing that Cadillac still had to use so many shims to put their car together.I restored a 65 and couldn't believe how many ships there was on the car.
This car not only has the beautiful two-tone paint scheme which was offered but it has the very very rare Touring Suspension option too. Very few of these cars were ordered with that upgraded suspension. Probably because the average age of a Cadillac buyer back then was 71 so few wanted the car to handle better versus the cushy ride. To be honest, i don't see many of these driving around anymore and i think it has to be due to the fact that many were junked early in life due to the HT4100 shortcomings.
I wonder how many were replaced with 4.5s, 4.9s and Olds 307s. It would have behooved GM to offer, without a lot of fanfare, a different V8 as a choice when these were replaced under warranty.
Front looks much better than first generation you can tell it's a Cadillac. And it must be nice to have cars that You've designed so cool mr. Kady bought them to have in his collection.
I was just knee-high to a grasshopper when this came out, so I didn't appreciate it then . . . but I appreciate it now. Such a daring, yet stately design. The bustle back and the A-pillar crease are wild! And those features! Wayne and Cadillac are amazing.
It's nice that Mr. Kady shares his personal car. I really enjoyed the walk around. The discussion was fascinating. Ha, the old dark trunk joke got just a little darker with, "whole or ..."
@8:32 - “You sure as hell don’t want any dripping injectors.” These videos with Wayne are pure gold. What a gem! Thanks for making these and sharing them with us, Adam.
Always a treat to see the designer of the car provide commentary -- thank you Wayne and Adam! FYI, the Eldorado, Rivera and Toronado also had that sharp feature line on the A-pillar. And Adam -- "whole or dismembered?" I'm dying! 😀😀😀
My dad had a 1984 Eldorado. The interior is almost identical, especially the dash, except his was burgundy. The door panels were different, but it had the same door handle that would have looked good if it hadn't had that giant exposed screw. Dad's didn't have the owner's manual and I didn't have the Internet to learn about the diagnostic mode, which I would have loved then and now. I don't think the fuel economy/trip computer worked right because we could only get it to show the instant MPG. It was one of the vehicles I learned to drive in and I loved the fiber-optic tattle-tales on the fenders and the ones for the brake lights above the rear window (you could see them in the rear-view mirror). I miss the cornering lights and wish more cars still had them. The trunk is amazing; the spare tire can even stand straight up. In the Eldo, it was angled back because it couldn't stand up under the parcel shelf and I always (even as a kid) thought it wasted space.
ALways loved this 2 tone Black over Silver on the Sevilles. I remember all the fuss when this style came out and I thought finally a car in the 80’s that has some real class about it. The Lincoln Mark VI coupes didn’t do it for me. Chrysler only knew 1 letter “K” for and continued to shrink the New Yorker making it look cheaper, and cheaper. But the Bustle Back Seville and Eldorado’s still had Class.
That is a great looking and well preserved Seville! I have always liked the unique design of this Seville. Sadly, I missed a recent opportunity to buy a diesel powered 1982 Seville D'Elegance in near perfect condition. I’m still kicking myself. I owned a white on red 1981 Eldorado Biarritz with the V8-6-4; never had an issue with the cylinder deactivation. I still miss that car. Despite the reputation of American malaise era cars, I believe Cadillac designers still did an excellent job with the Seville and Eldorado.
The diesel was really good by 1982, my parents had a good 81 Riviera diesel and mom drove it for years but getting parts for the diesel because a problem, and she finally after 20 years replaced it
John M I also owned a 81 coupe deville with the same engine and never had any issue with it at all it was to this day still one of my favorite cars of the many I have owned.
@@scottogan3182 yes my parents car was fine. I left out something on my comment, about 2000 the car was going to need new glow plugs and the part was not locally stocked and Mom was afraid part's were going to be a problem, so she bought a used Cadillac Seville SLS, she figured at 78 year's old she didn't need a new car she would never wear out
I saw a Hooper body Rolls on the freeway in LA and was completely taken with the bustleback, so when this debuted I was already a fan. I had friends with these cars, and my favorite by far was this color combination. Very elegant.
I live in Spain, and when that car debuted, a very rich neighbour, the owner of a big paper/cardboard company named SAICA, had lots of cars, and the one that he used most was a Seville like that, of course chauffered. I loved that car! 😍😍
I currently have a 1980 Seville Elegante 5.7 gas in the same color combo (just reversed. black on bottom, silver on top) I much prefer Mr. Kady's interior to mine. I always liked the tufted interiors. I also wish I had touring suspension. As much as I love my Seville I have never gotten used to the floaty, cushy feel it has. Anyway hats off to Mr Kady I can't go to the grocery store or even put gas in my tank without someone complimenting the car, or it sparking some type of conversation.
As a young teenager, I remember my neighbor few houses down owning a similar two tone Seville. The car stirred up my imagination then and why, as a 54 year old man, I purchased another classic, my 2011 Maybach 57s.
My Dad worked for Cadillac for over 40 years, not sure if you knew him Mr. Kady. Mom & Dad came to visit me in 1982 when I worked in San Francisco. Cadillac had an 82' Seville waiting for him when they arrived. We did the 17 mile drive in Carmel, and I felt so cool as my Dad let me drive. My only disappointment was that I couldn't shake the Rolls Royce that followed us all the way! lol
@@klwthe3rd I do recall it was 2 tone, and believe it was Bronze. I'm not sure who hooked Dad up with the loaner, but recall he got a chuckle that they thought he was a Vice President. Perhaps a local dealership?
12:18 I love that vertical spare; such a relief from the fragmented trunks of the 1970s, and you might even be able to get it out without completely emptying the trunk the way you have to on most current cars.
These have aged well. I can't fault the design. They are pretty in two-tone. The interior was very nicely done. This was a really great video, to have Wayne go through his own car in this way. Thank you, Adam.
From Australia , thanks guys , I watched part one , then noted on the screen that this second one became available to watch , so watched both episodes . It's a shame that the 2 big petrol engines from the 1980 year were not offered every year as the survival rate of these great cars would have been way, way higher. GM Holden here in Australia brought them into the country as unfinished cars , tooled up and made all the RHD equipment and RHD dashboards. These FWD Sevilles were sold in limited numbers at selected GM dealerships. So in 1980 we received both a 350 ci California spec engine ( i guess an oldsmobile like in the '76 to '79 models) and a debored Big Block Caddy 368cube 6litre engine. To eliminate any warranty issues, GMH-A made all 1981 468 cylinder deactivation engines run on 8 cylinders permanently whether on RWD Fleetwood Brougham or a FWD Seville, after a short while in 1982 Aussie Cadillacs were no more , a GM Holden dealer said that even as a new car the HT4100's were a nightmare so GMH-A management canned them from their range . Interestingly from 1980 to 1985 for 6 model years GMH-A made what was basically a "homegrown" Cadillac , the WB Holden Statesman Caprice, 80/82 was the series 1 , 83/85 series 2. In 1971 Holden Introduced the new HQ Statesman range, available in 2 models the basic Custom , and an upmarket de Ville version, thru to mid 1974 . Then came the new HJ versions which introduce the first ultimate "Caprice" range topping version, followed by a HX, HZ & SL/E updates as years rolled on. To look at these are like a smaller "baby brother" to a big rear wheel drive 1971 /72 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. However the body style after a decade needed a freshen up. the new WB' of 1980 , a MAJOR change. Leo Pruneau the GM designer tasked with the make over really went way way upmarket with the premium Caprice version creating a car longer that the Seville . WB Caprice's were to sell for maybe $10,000 more than the prior Caprice the final desiign had both an American and European look and feel to the car with a rich quality premium interior, French Marshal big rectangular Euro style headlights, a burnished aluminium grill made to the same exacting standards as a Rolls Royce one. Plus these WB Caprices shared many Cadillac division components right throughout the car, eg ABS brake system, power window lifts, electric door locking mechanisms. the complete whole Caddy' cruise control system, even the red and cream door illumination lights and modules , same with all internal lighting, as well. However , the big Holden's seats were way way more expensive than any of the Cadillac ones , Holden had bought elaborate German, Scheele front high backed leather bucket seats & twin rear leather bucket seats as well. I bought a brand new GM Holden Caprice in 1980 , then updated it with another , that I still own now 40years later in 2022. Was interesting that GMH-A had 3 similarly priced luxury cars all in dealers at the same time in the early 1980's, the WB versions of the big Aussie Statesman's had 2 chassis , a front 2/3'rds one and a rear 50% one so they went past one another, strange , instead of having one complete front to rear chassis to which the body bolts on, so even on that tack , all 3 were full body on chassis cars. I also own both a RHD GMH-A 1972 & 1974 pair of Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham's so it is interesting to see all the shared Cadillac componentry in my big WB Holden Statesman Caprice. ..
My '84 I bought someone put one of those faux RR grilles on. OMG what were they thinking. I had to use the '80 front end chrome trim to cover the hole they drilled into the front header for the hood ornament. The 2 tone Elegante's looked the best. Mine is 2 tone with a blue vinyl abriolet roof and the lower is a sand grey which looks more like a creme color. Blue velour tufted seat interior.
Tons of those optional E&G grilles were added to these cars and i have to agree that to me, they looked ugly as sin. But as you mentioned, when installed, they would drill into the sheetmetal so you were atleast lucky to be able to cover it up with the 1980-1981 chrome header bar.
@@klwthe3rd It was the hood that had the 3/4 inch hole. Also the E&G hood chrome wrapped up over the hood and I could see a paint color difference. No fading under the chrome. I may have the car repainted.
In 1985, I bought a new Eldorado. It was black with a camel cloth interior and no vinyl roof. It cost $23,500. I purchased and used it in Queens, NY. Back then, stealing front bumpers was a big thing, sort of like catalytic converters today so the dealer welded the front bumper bolts and I never had a problem. In the winter, the wire wheels would get pretty nasty and the only way to really clean them was to remove them and run them through the dishwasher. I washed it in the underground garage of my apartment building. It never saw a car wash. That car had the HT4100 V8 with a big 150 hp. It wasn’t very quick but would cruise up the NY State Thruway at an easy 90-100 mph with no issues at all. What a beautiful car. I was single and 34 at the time.
Another great video. The Delco GM/Bose sound system is easily identifiable by its silver faced head unit - all others were simply black. It was a $1600 option back in the day (over $4500 in today's dollars).
Absolutely right about the Bose radios having silver face units. As you mentioned it was a super expensive option back then. My guess would be only 10% of the cars were ordered with that option.
It amazes me to this day that this design was actually made. It is so elegant, so well done. I know a lot of people hate this design, and I can never understand why that is. (This is where people on both sides of the design debate dismiss each other with "There's just no accounting for taste!") 🙂 Anyway, this particular car is beautiful, and it makes my heart glad that the designer has such a great example for himself.
I don't know whether anyone noticed it but the Seville script is missing from the front fender. From 1981 to 1985 it was located just aft of the cornering lamp lens. The decklid badging of Touring Suspension plaque and Seville script have also been relocated from their original positions.
We had an 81 Seville with the 864 engine in the 1990s. Dark blue over light blue. It was wonderful and we got it because of the rear end design. And even though the tail was the famous aspect of the design, the car got many comments on the elegant looking front too. I loved the distinct noise of the starter. It had the wire hubcaps, but I really liked the turbine vane wheels too.
Adam, your plethora of knowledge of these cars and MANY cars astounds me. I don't know how old you are ( I have a feeling you're older than you look) but for a someone your age it blows me away. I'm 47 and consider myself to have a very broad knowledge of lots of cars but no way close to yours.
To your question to Wayne @15:30 about the redesigned spoked wheel covers, I'd read GM actually redesigned them for aerodynamics -bringing the center of the cap towards the vehicle for fuel efficiency. The old style apparently stuck out too far against the wind! I always thought the older ones looked better though, good luck finding either style nowadays -$300+ in good condition🙂
@@RareClassicCars A family friend had a 1979 Eldorado with wire wheel covers. They protruded so much that he couldn't send it through an automatic car wash line.
From Australia , we received the first 3 years worth in low numbers . The bullet proof year to buy is 1980 . There are TWO petrol engine options the 49 stated debored 368 cube inch Big Block Cadillac engine was prior the 8 litre engine , now 6 litre engine, OR , for California there was a 350 cube, 5.7 litre engine , which I believe is the same Oldsmobile engine as fitted to the earlier 1976, 77, 78, 79 Sevilles. After this doesn't matter whether it's a HT4100 , or one of the "weirdo" 468 random fire cylinder deactivation engines they will all give trouble, I have been in the Aussie Cadillac club now for 40 years and for 40 years , ever since new I have witnessed owners despair when one of the engines from the five horrible years breaks no matter what Cadillac it is in , rear wheel , or front wheel drive. The only good year for the Bustle back Seville was its first year 1980 and even then, I'd go with the big block Caddy 368 cube, 6litre engine. I have a mate who now lives in Brisbane , he has 2 Sevilles , a rare RWD 1979 Gucci version in white with a Gucci Tan vinyl roof his low mileage weekend car , plus he has a nice 2 tone 1980 Elegante in sand beige and bronze metallic paint , which has the original debored big block Caddy 6 litre V8 with 384,000miles!!! on it and still going strong!! As this "light weight" car has the same running gear as the heavyweight giant 1968 to 1978 FWD Eldorado's that in 1980 was fitted into a car that is well over half a tonne lighter .
I like the inverse paint scheme. The black-over-silver color looks very rich. This body style still looks beautiful and unique in 2022. Having said that, we probably won't see anything like this for a long long time, if ever again, as today's style is the 'aerodynamic blob' that has been pre-creased to look like they have been in a bad accident😂
I had a 1984 Eldorado Biarritz...basically same interior black on Black ...wire wheels with the red center cap ...cosmetically a beautiful car. Shined up real nice. Mechanically it ate fuel pumps. Starters and transmissions. I sold to a scrap yard for $1,600. Many years ago...miss it though
I always loved the squared off trimmed down tidy and elegant 76 to 79 Sevilles. The rear bustle ones I had mixed feelings on, but now I like them so much better. Even more elegant and eye catching. Love it or hate it reaction. Art. Art is designed for reaction. That car is pure rolling art. Excellent info from two in the know. Would love a 300 mile cruise in one with good friends. Diesel clatter would be even extra neat and unique.
I’d love to see a traditional full sized sedan Cadillac before they go ev. Don’t need crazy HP, but sufficient always worked for Cadillac. A retro 50’s looking Cadillac would really be nice
At the time I didn't think too much of the design. Now I find it quite attractive. Wayne and you, Adam, bring the car alive. Thanks. I have the memory of my new bride's godfather and his wife tooling away from our modest home in St. Paul after dinner in their yellow Seville. "Uncle Jake" was Alan Jacobsen, CEO of 3M Company at that time and an old and dear friend of my wife's family. That was their personal car.
I remember when these first came out, I thought they were quite unique. I loved everything about them. I remember the first job I had while I was in high school was at a ladies clothing store in Birmingham MI. One of the girls I worked with, her father was with G.M., and he dropped her off in a new Seville at the time. One day, her dad was driving a different Cadillac. I asked why the switch. She told me her mother was driving the Seville, and a girl driving home from school plowed into them. The Seville was totaled. Her mom was very upset and yelled at the girl “you just totaled a $20,000.00 car!”. All these years I wondered if that price was correct, and you confirmed it with your video. Another time I was watching t.v., they were covering Princess Diana arriving in Canada. They sent a new Seville with a chauffeur, she exited the car with ease and made the Seville even more elegant.
Wayne has such a wonderful, dry sense of humor. I enjoy the videos Adam makes with him.
Yeah reminds me of my relatives, and he holds his hands next to his waist like they did too! He's a relic, great to hear his stories before he's gone ( and others).
He does have that sense of humor and I was wondering if Adam caught that about the "Oldsmobile" 🤣
@@sableminer8133GEEEZZ😬😬😬
" _Relic, ☠ before hes Gone_ " Lol
My God, how u coming along with his Eulogy? 🤣
That two-tone combo really looks stunning on this and the car has such a presence.
My Dad had a 84’Elegante Version Same Color I miss Those Days The early 90’s
I like that Wayne kept a fine example of the cars he designed 👍🏽
I remember when these first came out. You couldn't help but look at it. It's one of those designs that was so different and appealing. The car just commands attention.
I also remember the debut of this car. The owners said that they would count the thumbs up compared to the thumbs down. Single digits were ignored 😂
How cool is it to see the people who designed these cars do a walkaround with them? Great stuff.
It must be really nice to be appreciated after most people have moved on and forgotten the work that you spent your life on.
I can’t agree more it’s definitely priceless to talk to the people who actually designed theses cars.
@@AntoineMiller " _Priceless_ " (perfect word) I could pick the brain of the person who designed my cars for DAYS
Yup. What they said.
Indeed.
Right? GM would be wise to license this from Adam. Great historian of their product.
This was my favorite color combo on this Seville, so beautiful
Grandpa always refered to that particular rear end, as the Daimler rear end.
These Sevilles were honestly high quality car inside and out (shame about what's under the hood), and experiencing a nice example in person is a special experience.
@@H.G.C.-ys9xn 1980 368 was fuel injected on Eldorado and Seville, carbureted on other models.
I like Wayne so much that I like these Sevilles now!!!
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I was disappointed when these cars came out because I like the previous generation so much better but then it grew on me like anything else now I totally get it
I feel the same way.
Saturday morning with Adam and Wayne. That's a good thing.
Great video!
The 75 to 79 Seville was my favorite... with the 350 V8 Gas ⛽️ engine. The 92 Seville that my parents owned was an elegant design as well.
Agree
The 92-94 was still an elegant looking car.
As the current owner of a 2011 Maybach 57s, the Seville was the epitome of class for a kid like me in junior high back in 1984.
So wonderful to document these great men of General Motors along with their history and stories. Thanks Adam.
Again, it's an optioned Chevy II.
Amazing that Cadillac still had to use so many shims to put their car together.I restored a 65 and couldn't believe how many ships there was on the car.
One of my all-time favorite Sevilles
This car not only has the beautiful two-tone paint scheme which was offered but it has the very very rare Touring Suspension option too. Very few of these cars were ordered with that upgraded suspension. Probably because the average age of a Cadillac buyer back then was 71 so few wanted the car to handle better versus the cushy ride. To be honest, i don't see many of these driving around anymore and i think it has to be due to the fact that many were junked early in life due to the HT4100 shortcomings.
I wonder how many were replaced with 4.5s, 4.9s and Olds 307s. It would have behooved GM to offer, without a lot of fanfare, a different V8 as a choice when these were replaced under warranty.
@@pcno2832 I agree that GM should have done more.
Wayne cracks me up! Thank you for the bustle back Seville too!
Another great video. Two icons. The designer you are speaking to. And the Bustleback Caddy. So nice
But not you, Adam! Haha.
How well I remember those Caddies.Just beautiful.
Thank you Wayne and Adam
Front looks much better than first generation you can tell it's a Cadillac. And it must be nice to have cars that You've designed so cool mr. Kady bought them to have in his collection.
Beautiful car
80-85's were my favorite Seville body-style. They only needed better power-trains.
I do like the paint scheme on that
Beautiful!!!
I think this iteration of the Seville has an elegance and upscale aura that Cadillac never again matched with either the Seville or Eldorado.
I was just knee-high to a grasshopper when this came out, so I didn't appreciate it then . . . but I appreciate it now. Such a daring, yet stately design. The bustle back and the A-pillar crease are wild! And those features! Wayne and Cadillac are amazing.
Looks better to my eye now then it did back in the day.
It's nice that Mr. Kady shares his personal car. I really enjoyed the walk around. The discussion was fascinating. Ha, the old dark trunk joke got just a little darker with, "whole or ..."
I did enjoy it. Wayne is quite the gentleman.
I love the scheme on Wayne’s car.
Beautiful car….I was a kid back then and I love the design of this Caddie
@8:32 - “You sure as hell don’t want any dripping injectors.” These videos with Wayne are pure gold. What a gem! Thanks for making these and sharing them with us, Adam.
A Classic in it's own time!
The reverse color scheme that Wayne has definitely makes the difference with the car lines here
Wayne rules! It's Wayne's World when he does an interview with him! :)
Thank you Adam & Wayne for the in-depth look at this gorgeous Cadillac Seville!!! 👍🙂🙂
Always a treat to see the designer of the car provide commentary -- thank you Wayne and Adam! FYI, the Eldorado, Rivera and Toronado also had that sharp feature line on the A-pillar. And Adam -- "whole or dismembered?" I'm dying! 😀😀😀
My dad had a 1984 Eldorado. The interior is almost identical, especially the dash, except his was burgundy. The door panels were different, but it had the same door handle that would have looked good if it hadn't had that giant exposed screw. Dad's didn't have the owner's manual and I didn't have the Internet to learn about the diagnostic mode, which I would have loved then and now. I don't think the fuel economy/trip computer worked right because we could only get it to show the instant MPG. It was one of the vehicles I learned to drive in and I loved the fiber-optic tattle-tales on the fenders and the ones for the brake lights above the rear window (you could see them in the rear-view mirror). I miss the cornering lights and wish more cars still had them. The trunk is amazing; the spare tire can even stand straight up. In the Eldo, it was angled back because it couldn't stand up under the parcel shelf and I always (even as a kid) thought it wasted space.
ALways loved this 2 tone Black over Silver on the Sevilles. I remember all the fuss when this style came out and I thought finally a car in the 80’s that has some real class about it. The Lincoln Mark VI coupes didn’t do it for me. Chrysler only knew 1 letter “K” for and continued to shrink the New Yorker making it look cheaper, and cheaper. But the Bustle Back Seville and Eldorado’s still had Class.
That is a great looking and well preserved Seville! I have always liked the unique design of this Seville. Sadly, I missed a recent opportunity to buy a diesel powered 1982 Seville D'Elegance in near perfect condition. I’m still kicking myself.
I owned a white on red 1981 Eldorado Biarritz with the V8-6-4; never had an issue with the cylinder deactivation. I still miss that car.
Despite the reputation of American malaise era cars, I believe Cadillac designers still did an excellent job with the Seville and Eldorado.
Well said.
The diesel was really good by 1982, my parents had a good 81 Riviera diesel and mom drove it for years but getting parts for the diesel because a problem, and she finally after 20 years replaced it
@@califdad4 Wow, i didn't realize they had gotten that much better in the 1980"s(the diesels that is).
John M I also owned a 81 coupe deville with the same engine and never had any issue with it at all it was to this day still one of my favorite cars of the many I have owned.
@@scottogan3182 yes my parents car was fine. I left out something on my comment, about 2000 the car was going to need new glow plugs and the part was not locally stocked and Mom was afraid part's were going to be a problem, so she bought a used Cadillac Seville SLS, she figured at 78 year's old she didn't need a new car she would never wear out
16:08 I love that comment about the extra wreath and crest that the customer bought. WK seems to take his work seriously-but not TOO seriously.
Wayne Kady rocks!
I saw a Hooper body Rolls on the freeway in LA and was completely taken with the bustleback, so when this debuted I was already a fan. I had friends with these cars, and my favorite by far was this color combination. Very elegant.
11:38 The earlier door chime (real) bell sounds so much better in my opinion
I live in Spain, and when that car debuted, a very rich neighbour, the owner of a big paper/cardboard company named SAICA, had lots of cars, and the one that he used most was a Seville like that, of course chauffered. I loved that car! 😍😍
I currently have a 1980 Seville Elegante 5.7 gas in the same color combo (just reversed. black on bottom, silver on top) I much prefer Mr. Kady's interior to mine. I always liked the tufted interiors. I also wish I had touring suspension. As much as I love my Seville I have never gotten used to the floaty, cushy feel it has. Anyway hats off to Mr Kady I can't go to the grocery store or even put gas in my tank without someone complimenting the car, or it sparking some type of conversation.
As a young teenager, I remember my neighbor few houses down owning a similar two tone Seville. The car stirred up my imagination then and why, as a 54 year old man, I purchased another classic, my 2011 Maybach 57s.
Great video. Love my Cadillacs
One of my favorite cars from childhood. Thank you Adam for the unique experience of hearing from its designer.
My Dad worked for Cadillac for over 40 years, not sure if you knew him Mr. Kady. Mom & Dad came to visit me in 1982 when I worked in San Francisco. Cadillac had an 82' Seville waiting for him when they arrived. We did the 17 mile drive in Carmel, and I felt so cool as my Dad let me drive. My only disappointment was that I couldn't shake the Rolls Royce that followed us all the way! lol
Awesome story! You dad must have been pretty high up at Cadillac if he gave him that loaner car on his trip. Do you remember what color it was?
@@klwthe3rd I do recall it was 2 tone, and believe it was Bronze. I'm not sure who hooked Dad up with the loaner, but recall he got a chuckle that they thought he was a Vice President. Perhaps a local dealership?
This was very enjoyable and informative. Thanks Adam.
Absolutely beautiful Cadillac
12:18 I love that vertical spare; such a relief from the fragmented trunks of the 1970s, and you might even be able to get it out without completely emptying the trunk the way you have to on most current cars.
Beautiful car! My favorite color combo. I think this design has aged well.
"call your attention to that extra wreath & crest that you paid for"...correct sir!
I always liked this design
1980 is the best year because you weren't stuck with the 4100. I love the Seville Bustleback. What a beautiful car & so 80s. Great stuff Adam.
These have aged well. I can't fault the design. They are pretty in two-tone. The interior was very nicely done.
This was a really great video, to have Wayne go through his own car in this way. Thank you, Adam.
These were real popular in Big D at the time what with JR Ewing, woman with big hair, and a shiney new, two toned Seville! I love wire wheels too!
From Australia , thanks guys , I watched part one , then noted on the screen that this second one became available to watch , so watched both episodes . It's a shame that the 2 big petrol engines from the 1980 year were not offered every year as the survival rate of these great cars would have been way, way higher. GM Holden here in Australia brought them into the country as unfinished cars , tooled up and made all the RHD equipment and RHD dashboards. These FWD Sevilles were sold in limited numbers at selected GM dealerships. So in 1980 we received both a 350 ci California spec engine ( i guess an oldsmobile like in the '76 to '79 models) and a debored Big Block Caddy 368cube 6litre engine. To eliminate any warranty issues, GMH-A made all 1981 468 cylinder deactivation engines run on 8 cylinders permanently whether on RWD Fleetwood Brougham or a FWD Seville, after a short while in 1982 Aussie Cadillacs were no more , a GM Holden dealer said that even as a new car the HT4100's were a nightmare so GMH-A management canned them from their range . Interestingly from 1980 to 1985 for 6 model years GMH-A made what was basically a "homegrown" Cadillac , the WB Holden Statesman Caprice, 80/82 was the series 1 , 83/85 series 2. In 1971 Holden Introduced the new HQ Statesman range, available in 2 models the basic Custom , and an upmarket de Ville version, thru to mid 1974 . Then came the new HJ versions which introduce the first ultimate "Caprice" range topping version, followed by a HX, HZ & SL/E updates as years rolled on. To look at these are like a smaller "baby brother" to a big rear wheel drive 1971 /72 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. However the body style after a decade needed a freshen up. the new WB' of 1980 , a MAJOR change. Leo Pruneau the GM designer tasked with the make over really went way way upmarket with the premium Caprice version creating a car longer that the Seville . WB Caprice's were to sell for maybe $10,000 more than the prior Caprice the final desiign had both an American and European look and feel to the car with a rich quality premium interior, French Marshal big rectangular Euro style headlights, a burnished aluminium grill made to the same exacting standards as a Rolls Royce one. Plus these WB Caprices shared many Cadillac division components right throughout the car, eg ABS brake system, power window lifts, electric door locking mechanisms. the complete whole Caddy' cruise control system, even the red and cream door illumination lights and modules , same with all internal lighting, as well. However , the big Holden's seats were way way more expensive than any of the Cadillac ones , Holden had bought elaborate German, Scheele front high backed leather bucket seats & twin rear leather bucket seats as well. I bought a brand new GM Holden Caprice in 1980 , then updated it with another , that I still own now 40years later in 2022. Was interesting that GMH-A had 3 similarly priced luxury cars all in dealers at the same time in the early 1980's, the WB versions of the big Aussie Statesman's had 2 chassis , a front 2/3'rds one and a rear 50% one so they went past one another, strange , instead of having one complete front to rear chassis to which the body bolts on, so even on that tack , all 3 were full body on chassis cars. I also own both a RHD GMH-A 1972 & 1974 pair of Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham's so it is interesting to see all the shared Cadillac componentry in my big WB Holden Statesman Caprice. ..
He seems like such a super guy and he designed some awesome cars!
I owned two of these an 80 and an 85 ,love the body.
My '84 I bought someone put one of those faux RR grilles on. OMG what were they thinking. I had to use the '80 front end chrome trim to cover the hole they drilled into the front header for the hood ornament. The 2 tone Elegante's looked the best. Mine is 2 tone with a blue vinyl abriolet roof and the lower is a sand grey which looks more like a creme color. Blue velour tufted seat interior.
Tons of those optional E&G grilles were added to these cars and i have to agree that to me, they looked ugly as sin. But as you mentioned, when installed, they would drill into the sheetmetal so you were atleast lucky to be able to cover it up with the 1980-1981 chrome header bar.
@@klwthe3rd It was the hood that had the 3/4 inch hole. Also the E&G hood chrome wrapped up over the hood and I could see a paint color difference. No fading under the chrome. I may have the car repainted.
In 1985, I bought a new Eldorado. It was black with a camel cloth interior and no vinyl roof. It cost $23,500. I purchased and used it in Queens, NY. Back then, stealing front bumpers was a big thing, sort of like catalytic converters today so the dealer welded the front bumper bolts and I never had a problem. In the winter, the wire wheels would get pretty nasty and the only way to really clean them was to remove them and run them through the dishwasher. I washed it in the underground garage of my apartment building. It never saw a car wash. That car had the HT4100 V8 with a big 150 hp. It wasn’t very quick but would cruise up the NY State Thruway at an easy 90-100 mph with no issues at all. What a beautiful car. I was single and 34 at the time.
Very early Bose car stereos are excellent quality.
I'd love to hear Mr. Kady's comments on the Diesel engine option...
Great enjoyable video!!! Amazing car!!!! Sheer beauty!!!
Every man in his lifetime should own a Cadillac. Standard of the world...
Another great video. The Delco GM/Bose sound system is easily identifiable by its silver faced head unit - all others were simply black. It was a $1600 option back in the day (over $4500 in today's dollars).
Absolutely right about the Bose radios having silver face units. As you mentioned it was a super expensive option back then. My guess would be only 10% of the cars were ordered with that option.
This was the very beginning of premium audio in cars. I bet it sounded amazing for the early 80s.
It amazes me to this day that this design was actually made. It is so elegant, so well done. I know a lot of people hate this design, and I can never understand why that is. (This is where people on both sides of the design debate dismiss each other with "There's just no accounting for taste!") 🙂 Anyway, this particular car is beautiful, and it makes my heart glad that the designer has such a great example for himself.
I don't know whether anyone noticed it but the Seville script is missing from the front fender. From 1981 to 1985 it was located just aft of the cornering lamp lens. The decklid badging of Touring Suspension plaque and Seville script have also been relocated from their original positions.
We had an 81 Seville with the 864 engine in the 1990s. Dark blue over light blue. It was wonderful and we got it because of the rear end design. And even though the tail was the famous aspect of the design, the car got many comments on the elegant looking front too. I loved the distinct noise of the starter. It had the wire hubcaps, but I really liked the turbine vane wheels too.
What a delightful walk around.
I had a new 85 Seville. It was the nicest car I ever had, I really liked it!
Adam, your plethora of knowledge of these cars and MANY cars astounds me. I don't know how old you are ( I have a feeling you're older than you look) but for a someone your age it blows me away. I'm 47 and consider myself to have a very broad knowledge of lots of cars but no way close to yours.
To your question to Wayne @15:30 about the redesigned spoked wheel covers, I'd read GM actually redesigned them for aerodynamics -bringing the center of the cap towards the vehicle for fuel efficiency. The old style apparently stuck out too far against the wind! I always thought the older ones looked better though, good luck finding either style nowadays -$300+ in good condition🙂
Not sure if believe it. The 85 Deville was the first Caddy that really went through aero testing.
@@RareClassicCars A family friend had a 1979 Eldorado with wire wheel covers. They protruded so much that he couldn't send it through an automatic car wash line.
I always admired these for that great interior, and the distinctive exterior (fan of the bustle!) but despaired the mechanicals.
From Australia , we received the first 3 years worth in low numbers . The bullet proof year to buy is 1980 . There are TWO petrol engine options the 49 stated debored 368 cube inch Big Block Cadillac engine was prior the 8 litre engine , now 6 litre engine, OR , for California there was a 350 cube, 5.7 litre engine , which I believe is the same Oldsmobile engine as fitted to the earlier 1976, 77, 78, 79 Sevilles. After this doesn't matter whether it's a HT4100 , or one of the "weirdo" 468 random fire cylinder deactivation engines they will all give trouble, I have been in the Aussie Cadillac club now for 40 years and for 40 years , ever since new I have witnessed owners despair when one of the engines from the five horrible years breaks no matter what Cadillac it is in , rear wheel , or front wheel drive. The only good year for the Bustle back Seville was its first year 1980 and even then, I'd go with the big block Caddy 368 cube, 6litre engine. I have a mate who now lives in Brisbane , he has 2 Sevilles , a rare RWD 1979 Gucci version in white with a Gucci Tan vinyl roof his low mileage weekend car , plus he has a nice 2 tone 1980 Elegante in sand beige and bronze metallic paint , which has the original debored big block Caddy 6 litre V8 with 384,000miles!!! on it and still going strong!! As this "light weight" car has the same running gear as the heavyweight giant 1968 to 1978 FWD Eldorado's that in 1980 was fitted into a car that is well over half a tonne lighter .
I like the inverse paint scheme. The black-over-silver color looks very rich. This body style still looks beautiful and unique in 2022. Having said that, we probably won't see anything like this for a long long time, if ever again, as today's style is the 'aerodynamic blob' that has been pre-creased to look like they have been in a bad accident😂
He designed a beautiful car
always liked that design. I would like it better if it was rear wheel drive. but it's still a great looking car
A full frame and no freak wheel drive.
I really appreciate this archeology. Shout out to Wayne for being willing to do this.
I had a 1984 Eldorado Biarritz...basically same interior black on Black ...wire wheels with the red center cap ...cosmetically a beautiful car. Shined up real nice. Mechanically it ate fuel pumps. Starters and transmissions. I sold to a scrap yard for $1,600. Many years ago...miss it though
Love this color combination .
This is a fantadtic video. Thank you Wayne and Adam! Please continue to make many, many more of these.
Very nice color package. I thought it was the "pillow top" seats, it isn't but still a beautiful interior. Thanks for the tour.
I had one of these back in 1984.. except it was in Matchbox car form.
That's a clean Hogg, Dawg!!!😍👍
I like the inverse color. I think it looks better this way instead of the silver over black.
I 've just bought this wonderful designed car, Thumbs Up ,Wayne !
Handsome cars.
Beautiful Seville bustleback.
I always loved the squared off trimmed down tidy and elegant 76 to 79 Sevilles. The rear bustle ones I had mixed feelings on, but now I like them so much better. Even more elegant and eye catching. Love it or hate it reaction. Art. Art is designed for reaction. That car is pure rolling art. Excellent info from two in the know. Would love a 300 mile cruise in one with good friends. Diesel clatter would be even extra neat and unique.
Thank you for creating another great video Adam! Please keep them coming. Especially the Cadillac themed ones!
I’d love to see a traditional full sized sedan Cadillac before they go ev. Don’t need crazy HP, but sufficient always worked for Cadillac. A retro 50’s looking Cadillac would really be nice
At the time I didn't think too much of the design. Now I find it quite attractive. Wayne and you, Adam, bring the car alive. Thanks. I have the memory of my new bride's godfather and his wife tooling away from our modest home in St. Paul after dinner in their yellow Seville. "Uncle Jake" was Alan Jacobsen, CEO of 3M Company at that time and an old and dear friend of my wife's family. That was their personal car.
I remember when these first came out, I thought they were quite unique. I loved everything about them. I remember the first job I had while I was in high school was at a ladies clothing store in Birmingham MI. One of the girls I worked with, her father was with G.M., and he dropped her off in a new Seville at the time. One day, her dad was driving a different Cadillac. I asked why the switch. She told me her mother was driving the Seville, and a girl driving home from school plowed into them. The Seville was totaled. Her mom was very upset and yelled at the girl “you just totaled a $20,000.00 car!”. All these years I wondered if that price was correct, and you confirmed it with your video.
Another time I was watching t.v., they were covering Princess Diana arriving in Canada. They sent a new Seville with a chauffeur, she exited the car with ease and made the Seville even more elegant.
We had the 83 in our family, I was 13 years old at the time and ours was burgundy and what a ride. It was so smooth and quiet and stunning to look at.
I love Cadillacs best American cars