All Doped Up Documentary
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2017
- A student documentary about the story of the 1976 USA Women's Olympic swimming team who battled against the steroid-riddled East Germans culminating in a race and story that will be remembered forever.
I saw it on TV at the time, and I was never prouder of a U.S. team. It was thrilling how much heart and fighting spirit the U.S. women still had after losing race after race to doped-up mutants. Most people would have given up by then, but not Peyton, Boglioli, Sterkel, and Babashoff.
I highly respect West and live in the Western world , but USA is the least clean nation and proven to be doped to the gills . they for example never send US team basketball on OI if they are going to be tested . Croatia vs USA in Barcelona OI , how Croatian players felt when they played against ( like you said ) - mutants who were obviusly twice as big compared to skinny Croatians ? and guess what Croatians never complained and made documentaries about how USA had advantage in every aspect .. and Croatians and other teams congrats USA team .
East Germany was nothing special , from where they get doping ?! From West , in Western part of Germany and world labs were developed to produce those drugs , that's the fact . It's highly immoral to accuse one nation and whole eastern bloc for cheating , while you are cheating yourself , and it was known among players that in West Bloc doping was more prevalent . Do they use doping in Cuba today ? Coaches need to mix sugar and water due to lack of money to give them proper glycogen replenishment . Still Cubans are winning because they are talented and have good sports system from childhood selection etc .
I am totaly against communism and other totalitarian regimes thou , but they had superior sport system and invested a lot of money into their sports back in the day . Those athletes risked everything , they could even get killed if not winning . Best of athletes didn't even received any privileges and salaries like in the West . They all dreamed about moving to Western Bloc and having better life as champions . Give them proper respect , they are heroes , not villains .
Both teams were on the juice....East Germany just did it better
USA und sauber,danke für Ihren Humor.
American women were usin ' stuff , just not as much and they knew alot less about what they were doin ' . Plus the Rooskies and Eastern Bloc cunt trees didn't care about individuals, as long as they won. Just look up Heidi Krieger .
That 4×100 relay brought tears to my eyes...them 4 women I hope were so proud of themselves...
Sad that Kim Peyton died as a result of a brain tumor in 1986 at the age of only 29.
Absolutely
Oh my God the age of 29 poor lady. Rip
10 years after
@@thekornreeper she is missed
the best ever,,,best...love the ladies...awesome..gives me chills watching this over and over now in 2021...xx
What a 3rd leg by Jill Sterkel! Wow.
So THIS is why the name "Babashoff" is familiar to me. Always recognized the name, but couldn't remember where from. This explains it. Great anchor leg by Shirley.
Off the record East German coaches had a saying regarding steroids in women's swimming:
"We are able to make women into men, but we can't turn men into fish."
But now you have "manly " trans in women's sports and backed by US law, isn't this just like what happened here? Call it by a different category?
@@sriddle3569 but the trans are actual men so its even better than doping women with steroids because we can dope men with steroid then stop for a month or so and put a wig on and call him a woman. But honestly most of these trans women probably cant compete at an olympic level anyway.
@@sriddle3569Sure bro
The GDR messed those little girls up...
sad
Very sad, the swimming clubs had total control over the girls who swam. Not as if they could go home after training like everyone else. In sports like Gymnastics, girls were given drugs who were as young as 10- talk about coaches abusing trust and how could doctors live with themselves.
As a matter of fact Heidi Krieger shot put thrower of G D R got to choose to stay as a man after many years of doping....turinabol of Jenapharm was one of the drugs that eastgermans athletes use to take....
That relay was awesome
15 year old Jill Sterkel blew the opposition away! What al relay leg she delivered. After that Babashoff just maintained the lead that was given to her. Wonderful!
Nobody blew anybody away between the USA and EG.
Janet Evans blew away the East Germans in 88.
The 1984 Olympics had many failed tests that were not made public. The huge amount of money that would be lost was loud and clear
The American women also had imposing musculatures in the 1970s. Members of the relay, also had deep voices.
Cut to almost 50 years later, Katie Ledecky also has a very deep voice! When she won her first gold medal, she improved her time by over 10 seconds.
At the 1978 worlds, Cynthia Woodhead of USA beat the GDR swimmers, then vanished by the early 80s?!
The USA has never been clean, either!
Warning, Warning, Nut Job Alert!
There are government documents in GDR proving the East German women were doping?
Bet you feel pretty STUPID right now.
@@RK-um9tuWait 75 years, and we'll see the same from the US.
Cycling?
You feel stupid now, yankee??
I think sometimes it's just natural masculinity of such women, who because of it have an advantage in early teenage years already. The women tend to be taller and generally more masculine appearing than the average woman. Ledecky is 6 ft tall and basically since childhood had a pattern of male baldness.
GOD BLESS YOU
Nice video
Very well done. This was made before the current doping scandal happened (2022 Beijing Team Figure Skating event, where a *minor* from Russia tested positive). If that minor had been American, that coaching team would have been investigated for child abuse, but in mother Russia, the ends justify the means…
I have a good friend who swam and won a Gold medal as part of the US Olympic team. She said the East German swimmer were monsters. Their voices were very masculine and they had hair growing on their backs and faces. Sound like a red flag. They beat the system but were most definitely dirty.
Wow that's some experience your friend had. Women transitioning into muscle monsters.. now we have this transgender issue with still biological males that haven't fully transitioned and measuring a lower testosterone count but how could they still allowed them to participate in women sports. It's very confusing.. how do we put that in perspective is there an analogy here with drugs turning women with more male traits. And today in the year 2000s men are transitioning into women but still have the same muscular structure as men it's a real mind blower and it doesn't sound fair. Well on that note why don't they drop the mail and female swim team all together and just have a unisex swim team see how many women are going to win the sports. I'll bring a lot of brouhaha to the issue instead of being steamrolled by The advocates
Документальный фильм «Все в допинге»
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Студенческий документальный фильм об истории женской олимпийской сборной США по плаванию 1976 года, которая сражалась против пронизанных стероидами восточных немцев, кульминацией которых стала гонка и история, которая запомнится навсегда.
And NOT ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE ARTICLE ABOUT THE EAST GERMANS. NOBODY QUESTIONED THEM ABOUT ANYTHING
Nobody wrote anything about the East Germans because the virtually lived in a world of their own called the communist bloc. And nobody had any solid evidence of doping until the E German secret police files were found after the fall of the wall. Even then, like some notable athletes in the west, none of their stars were connected to doping on the files although we know the Statsi doped children as young as 12 who they thought were athletically gifted so it is highly improbable that Koch and the others did their times unaided by chemical enhancers. Honestly I don’t know why they have not found a way to take back their medals and erase their WRs
soooooooooooooo not true, ppl made all kindz uv commentz about their appearancez.just b-cauz u didn't hear about it duzzn't mean it didn't exist
@@mahalkita7351A bit like the English language.
Talented youth is still getting supplements and enhancers to be abled to perform better. Nothing has changed.
KUDOS TO YOU!
WADA needs to get rid of the statue of limitation for doping violations. This way as medical technology and analysis improves, they can check the blood and urine samples of all athletes, even 20 years later.
Yeah, I completely agree.
they already do test samples for at least 8 years
pay attention more
its 10 years
@@analcommando1124 hey you dumb @ss, yes I know they go as far back as 10 years. If you read my comment I said they should get rid of the statute of limitations, i.e. no time limit as to how long back they can test samples.
Doping will be always a 'gray area' in sports. It is quite interesting that the Kornelia Ender's body at 15:32 is very similar to currect bodies of elite female swimmers from many countries. ¿Is this an outcome of training, sports science ans approved nutrition supplements evolution?
I know optimism is mandatory in the US and realism is frowned upon but that last sentence "the clean athletes will always find a way to win" is just such obvious bullshit...
Years ago, Olympic sprinter Lillie Leatherwood likened the locker rooms to drug stores.
Lol I know trashing on America is mandatory, especially when on social media platforms, so please explain where you get “optimism is mandatory”?! It’s almost comical how this is about how notorious E Germany was for doping, yet so many weirdos in the comments keep saying “nuh uh….America bad too”.
@@isitoveryet9525 also as an asside America basically accuses anyone who beats them on a grand scale in the olympics of cheating in some way and we are almost always right. How can we tell that every country that systematically beats us is cheating? Because we're cheating. If they cheat more than us its too much for us to bear. Why is it that only the russians and chinese who have had inhumane gymnastics training camps are able to beat US gymnasts when our gymnasts are just free and happy and do gymnastics by choice because we like it? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?! Ive watched olympic gymnastics as long as i can remember and this has never been answered.
@@isitoveryet9525 He literally quoted the idea of the American Dream - anyone can make it, if you just work hard. That is the pinaccle of optimism, cause statistically untrue.
When American team wins they’re ‘clean’ when other teams win they are doping’ wow!
Well in this case it was true, so… lol
Idiotic comment - too idiotic to deserve an answer.
sorry, but I have forgotten it already
at 13:54 that's the 100m Backstroke podium with Nancy Garapick from Canada winning bronze behind Brigitte Treiber and Ulrike Richter of East Germany. 4th, 5th place were Wendy Cook-Hogg, and Cheryl Gibson of Canada...If the East Germans were disqualified for doping, Canada would have had a 1,2,3 sweep!
And Nancy Garapick would have been a double-Olympic champion.
If someone doped me without my knowledge, I win Olympic Gold, later I learn I unintentionally cheated, then I would mail, hand deliver or somehow give my gold medal to the next finisher who did not cheat.
None of the East Germans have done that. That's amazing. None of them have the personal integrity to return what they wrongly won.
@@Ranger4402 liar
I imagine that, the EMOTIONS and PRIDE generated by Their winning in ‘76 was reminiscent of the 1980 Men’s Hockey win against the USSR. Historical!!!!
Yes not as good as when russia beat the US in baskey ball in the last second d
@@sage6336 Russia got to keep inbounding the ball until they made the winning basket. A different form of cheating.
In any country gym you will surely find some random guy selling steroids it is so common now.
Why does Ben Johnson lose his gold but this shit is allowed???
Because he failed a drug test. As the documentary explains, the East Germans didn't admit it until 1990.
He was the scapegoat
East German women athletes certainly were all doped but thinking the US girls were all clean is naive... Just other not so obvious methods
what other methods?
larciabella female androgens, blood doping, HGH therapy, cardiovascular enhancement drugs such as kyno or sus, gene therapy the list goes on when money and political motives are on the line anything and everything will be used.
East Germans and Americans were clearly ahead of the rest, but only the east Germans were roided 😂. Gotta love how always everyone who beats USA athletes is the only one who is dirty.
The East Germans were well ahead of their time with their doping system since it was government/state sponsored. The US never had anything remotely close to that level; their success was due to numerous swim clubs throughout the country and collegiate level swimming. Those athletes were considered amateurs and pretty much had to find their own funding during their swimming careers (unlike today where athletes can obtain corporate sponsorship).
Four Seasons Dude, please. You can’t really believe this. This has been happening for years. It’s mostly about a nation’s prestige.
@@_M_V_ Yes, doping is more prevalent now. But, I am referring to the 1970's and early 80's when the EG doping system was 2nd to none. The obvious signs showed in their muscular and over bulked athletes particularly the female swimmers and track athletes. They clearly had bodies similar to males. During that time, you just didn't see that with US athletes. This isn't to say doping didn't exist within the US, but not on a national scale similar to the Eastern Bloc nations.
Four Seasons With all the respect, you are too naive. First of all, you don’t need to look like the hulk to be on steroids. Second, USA athletes almost always have had almost the same results as the athletes from other nations that have been caught “cheating”(I don’t know if it really is cheating since everyone is using anabolics). Everyone is using them, they have been invented since the 20s(early forms of testosterone, not like nowadays). It’s just a matter of who’s being caught using them or, better put, who they want to be caught using them.
@@FourSeasons04 Exactly. Athletics are entirely different in a free country and a communist country.
This was a great mini documentary
Why doesn’t it have any comments
True
these poor children got bashed by the stupid press. just want to give them all a hug 😢
I dated a East German Girl athlete once! I was happy after a couple of minutes but she wanted to go all night! I always thought she was on something 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi David, Lol!...
Did she leave you with your willy intact? ;)
@@Logans3Run I couldn't handle it 😭😂😂😭
Death by snu snu
Show have some links to some actual studies about mood swings.
He said “ Longue dureé “ . Clearly he read French historians in grad school.
Greed , manipulation,lies ...the sad aftermath.
very fitting along side the current debate on trans women in womens sport
As if the Americans were totally innocent!
If we're talking about just Kim, Wendy, Jill, and Shirley themselves, then yes they were.
there was no state sponsored doping in US.. individual doping yes but was punished.....
The women back then had hair growing under their foot, on their backs and had the voice of Darth vader
What would happen if it was a level playing feild
Mood swings, how would you tell the difference
Some thing needs to be done about it
21:40 best point
At least the United States won the team swimming olympic gold medal in Montreal.
Do a lot of people dopo? Yes. Does that mean we should let everyone do it? NO!
Well said.
I have to laugh at all of the finger pointing in this comments section, as if anyone's (successful) athletes weren't/aren't using something. People pretending like East Germany or the Eastern Bloc were the lone pioneers of doping when the 1970's Pittsburgh Steelers are known to have been all gassed up are being intellectually dishonest.
USA girls Montreal 1976 win over GDR's best doping team. There you go:
13:03 "...on the clean side" 13:17 "without using any enhancements", 13:20 they did it out of "pure talent and adren... adrenaline"! (;
And off-screen narrator: 13:34 "It was a victory well earned (...) 13:46 feeling that in the end the light does hold off the darkness."
*U S A !* (:
Yep good ole US of A never ever dopes
Such a beautiful sport we have to make this stop.
OPE....TOO LATE! That Pandora's box is FLUNG WIDE.
Griffih Joyner
what....GRUGS?!?
You marched into the bathroom......marched? Marched?
00:24 one of the US girls looks bold like Mr. Burns o_O
Because money is not every thing creed
Make that 15000
Why have the Germans not been stripped of their medals and re-awarded USA the Gold for all those Silvers? Others have, especially the USA Track & Field athletes.
not to mention Canada.
why havent the USA been stripped of all the medals and world records of Flo Jo, Jones, Carl Lewis? are you really so naive to think the Eastern Bloc were ahead of the West in anything during the Cold War with all that was at stake? The USA are still at it as is Russia, only a few years ago top US athletic training programme the Oregon project was exposed for doping including multiple Olympic champions and medalists from last few Olympics.
Did it never cross your mind the west boycotted Moscow and the Eastern Bloc boycotted LA84 as they knew they couldnt prevent their athletes being tested? the IOC failed to publish the test results of many top athletes at LA or Seoul including the 2 most successful US gold medallists to avoid scandals exposing western gold medallists.
It's a good question. The IOC is messed up and conservative--they are hesitant to go back *that* far (IMO) and strip medals from 40+ years ago and set a precedent. But the East German program was *so* egregious--they flouted the law *so* flagrantly (FS, one of the EG women ended transitioning to be a man, and not really by choice) that I kind of think they should.
@@saints16o5o87 many others had their medals stripped, though. You should read the book
They hold on their medals…..VERY strong ;-)
I blame the IOC for allowing the GDR to even compete past the 72 Olympics , let alone not sending them packing when these science projects got off the plane in Canada . GDR was the size of NJ with 17 million people, yet had 90 medals with 40 gold? They should of done to then what they are finally doing with the Russians.
stf
I don't know if that's really what they're doing now with Russia. To prove that they really mean it, they need to keep Russia out of all Olympics for as long as Russia cannot positively prove that they're done with the doping (meaning, that they don't encourage it anymore, and that they do their very best to catch dopers). Oh, and the IOC should ban for life any athlete caught doping, and any coach/administrator caught helping an athlete dope.
There wasn’t a lot of public awareness in the ‘70s.
win clean
what a concept
So now, we call these sports folks transgendered now? Very bulked up in women sports now breaking records
It's an absolute travesty. Ridiculous and infuriating. But say anything against it and you're "transphobic" (and probably racist too)
13:02 LMFAOOOOO !!! This is just hilarious ! Pure my a s s ...
That woman is pure gold! They got first in front of a GDR-Team with female athletes fully on roids. And they did that all out of talent. Sure! You can see she is lying about it.
So Caitlin (Bruce) Jenner would compete in the female or Male category?
Whatever, East Germans sucked at 1972 Olympics. They got bigger within one year. It was obvious and to this day i dont understand why hardly anybody knew about this and they got to keep their medals and changed NOTHING in the records. Too much paperwork i guess?
Haha so they cried about getting beat but they beat the cheaters but done it NATURALLY...hahahahahahah
Exactly! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sucks to lose even when you dope :)
Yeah, would love to see that statement once again without the black sunglasses… 🤨
very sad stuff, they doped those poor kids, long-term side effects..
Tremendous leg by Sterkel.
The moderator has no freaking clue on how to read the winning time. He said "3 point 4482 seconds". What in the hell is that? Is this another product of the American edumacation system?
I think that's part of what they called the 'new math' that we missed in the late sixties in Brooklyn. But it didn't take off until the early 70s right
the americans never doped, they are all super clean all the time. marion jones, lance armstrong, ben johnson, carl lewis, tyson gay
Ben Johnson is Canadian you simple twat. And this video is talking about the US swimmers of this era. Not track and field of the future. Feel good to be so far off the mark and clearly displayimg irelevant ignorance ? FFS.🤦♂️
Ben Johnson is not American and Jones, Armstrong, and Gay were punished.
They shud test all the frozen samples from the past ,testing is way more advanced now ! There will be a hell of a lot of gold medals have to be handed back !
This is interesting and informative but ridiculously partial. As if no US athlete has ever doped - please.
There’s no way you will figure out who’s doing it or not, make it legal, otherwise your kidding yourself everyone is on something
6:58 Wait, so the media being made up of idiots isn't new? Here's my "surprised" face....
Test splitz
Or Mark Spitz?
Ah yes, the US has never doped... Nope, nope, nope...
no state sponsored doping
She died in Greece 👽 @tesla
I highly respect West and live in the Western world , but USA is the least clean nation and proven to be doped to the gills . they for example never send US team basketball on OI if they are going to be tested . Croatia vs USA in Barcelona OI , how Croatian players felt when they played against ( like you said ) - mutants who were obviusly twice as big compared to skinny Croatians ? and guess what Croatians never complained and made documentaries about how USA had advantage in every aspect .. and Croatians and other teams congrats USA team .
East Germany was nothing special , from where they get doping ?! From West , in Western part of Germany and world labs were developed to produce those drugs , that's the fact . It's highly immoral to accuse one nation and whole eastern bloc for cheating , while you are cheating yourself , and it was known among players that in West Bloc doping was more prevalent . Do they use doping in Cuba today ? Coaches need to mix sugar and water due to lack of money to give them proper glycogen replenishment . Still Cubans are winning because they are talented and have good sports system from childhood selection etc .
I am totaly against communism and other totalitarian regimes thou , but they had superior sport system and invested a lot of money into their sports back in the day . Those athletes risked everything , they could even get killed if not winning . Best of athletes didn't even received any privileges and salaries like in the West . They all dreamed about moving to Western Bloc and having better life as champions . Give them proper respect , they are heroes , not villains .
Bull excrement!
What dopophobia...
Lance Armstrong, the monster,😂 dady's doping 😅😅😅
This IS the greatest moment in sports history as we all now know the East Germans used drugs...our gals did it fair and square....makes these ladies the BEST ever xxxx
Muahaha..
Funny to hear American athletes complaining about other nations doping strategies.
We want to be the only ones doping. Sorry not sorry
@@danan9061we dont excuse you x wanting to be the only ones to get dopped 😅. Anyway its a bad attempt : actually the brittons & partially the russians are on your steps, the rostbeeafs since 20yrs, twenty years of cheats & robbed medals !!
Yeah!! You'rec right!!!😂😂😂
Ok…Lance definitely doped…..no one doped like the Eastern Bloc.
@@darbyheavey406 none is funnier than an american who claims his country win honestly in some sports -:) !! The eastern block got dopped since middle of 70s till end of 80s ( Russia postcommunist is another matter ) and mainly on womens competitions, the USA since 1983 to present time, both men & women ( UK started from 2008 Olymp). Can you do your maths and count how many victories cheated the communist block and how many the US sport ??🙂🤔
I would rather just let them do whatever they want, since it seems like too many are already doing it anyway. Even today I look at top level athletes and many do not even look human, especially in the NFL.
It's like saying Shaq does not look normal and imply he used PEDs. NFL players are big, women are not supposed to sound like men. Dumb statement.
There's no actual drug testing in NFL. All players are juiced because the league does not inforce any credible drug testing protocols.
USA not drugs in sports! Clean was the motivation !
Marion Jones
😂 😂
LANCE ARMSTRONG
but no state sponsored doping..get the difference
@@reallifehack4790 Flo Joe, Carl Lewis, Randy Barnes...
The girl at 13.10 sound like she's on dope.
Just let women dope .,,, what’s the point anymore.
Just have open competition
Women Sports unfortunately always feels like people have tried to game or cheat for years.
Lia Thomas clear advantage… just let women dope to match her advantage.
all males...