Buying a Karcher K4 Pressure Washer for Car Cleaning? Try these instead!
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Another fantastic and informative video Dave keep them coming mate 👍🏼
Thanks Mark more coming. Next video should be pretty interesting
Love the product line showing up in the video. I don't have a hose reel and I kind of wish I did. I didn't anticipate wear and tear on the hose from the guide like that though. Very interesting.
Thanks Brother 🙏 yeah these products are lovely I feel very proud of these ones
Nothing better than coming home after night shift, sitting down for breakfast and getting the notification from CZcams that your video is up.
Nice one again mate.
They look like good stuff. Wish I had a hose reel on mine coz they are absolute w*nk. Always curling and tangling, not good even for bondage ffs. The amount of time I tripped over and once landed in the bushes...
Anyway, GET THOSE PRODUCTS ON THE SHELVES!!!!!!!!!!:)))))
Thanks Adam, new products launch 17th August. Website link will all be revealed on social media. My day is about to begin. Thinks I'd rather work at night at the moment. Mind you I do work till 2am most days editing
@@epicautomotivedetailing Hard work will pay off 😀
Nice one , enjoying the vids and good luck with your products. Bit off topic , but where would valeters stand if there is a drought and hosepipe ban (looking likely) in the UK?
we are exempt from it mate. its business it doesnt count the ban only applies to domestic usage
Great work as always
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Dave, great video. I’m looking at starting my own mobile valeting business. Would the HD 4/10 be powerful enough and flow enough for daily use? Im thinking either the 4/10 or K5 compact and purchasing my own hose/lance. I’m put off Ava with the fuse issues I keep seeing crop up when used with an extension. Thanks for the great vids 👍
New "Easy!Lock" connectors in my opinion are pretty comfortable but you're right with too high price. There is also possibility to buy quick "click" connection set but again is a problem.
Hi Dave, huge fan of your videos. Very helpful as I am going for a old car to a brand new one that I intend to keep clean and shiny always. Do you have a link where I can buy the Epic car cleaning products?
Thanks very much that's very kind. On the 17th I'll be releasing website details etc. I will post it everywhere 🙏
@@epicautomotivedetailing I will be definetly be getting some as a birthday present to myself, I'm exited to use the products!
Enjoyed your presentation. Bought today the pro version for £149.99 and the retailer offered a £9.00 discount if you spent over £100.00
Great video! 👍🏴
Thanks very much 🙏
I've just bought a Nilfisk on your recommendation , 1st wash tomorrow
Thank you for this, really informative and helpful.
Thanks Geoffrey
Pleasure’s all mine, Epic Car Show Detailing ⭐️
@@geoffreyacquaah272 🙏
What fitting do you need for the foam cannon with the new lance with HD 4/8?
Great video Dave as always..but hooe we can have nice video of you products in action 😁
100% mate loads coming I didn't want to overdo it
@@epicautomotivedetailing Thanks Dave can't wait
So, I've ordered one of the HD 4/8 from the outlet you advised but I want to know which snow foam attachment I should get... can you recommend some please.
Have a k4 as a backup, cost £200 I think in halfords, feels a bit flimsy but then again my main pressure washer is a kranzle, thanks for the advice.
Nice one love a Kranzle
Hi dave another great video quick question are you products going to be available in only 500ml bottles or can we buy bigger
Sean
Hi Sean 5 litre will 100% be available soon. For the first month we have to launch with the 500ml only because we need to gather data on customer satisfaction to find out what they like etc as it's all new for me. I want to give people the chance to try it first. See how they get on then we can launch 5litre
Do a review for the Karcher Mini next! I have one and honestly it’s great for it’s size.
@epicautomotivedetailing which model patio/surface cleaner did you use?
Looking at buying the nilfisk 180 after the review you did, been using nilfisk for years 145 150 and the 160, do you have a discount code for clean store, you seem to have one for everything else lol
Awesome review
Thanks very much 🙏
Could you provide a link to the foam cannon
Any idea what connector to buy to fit the 4/10 x so I can fit my autobrite snow foam lance which has quick connector on it. Thanks
Can the hd series be converted to quick release with adapters
Great video Dave. Could I easily connect a MTM Hydro SGS35 Stainless Steel stubby gun to this or would it need a special fitment?
You can do but my best advice is to contact someone like carscope or cleanstore and explain the set up you want as there are many options 👌
Amazing videos you do mate! You recon Karcher HD 4/8 or 4/10 is better than K7 Compact? Seriously considering between those ;) Any advise appreciated!
Yes I'd say personally this is better. It has more durable internal components
Just bought a hd 4/8. Looking at getting a new hose and stubby. Can I buy any M22 item? I've seen it's says 14mm or 15mm internal?? Any advice, please
Another good one mate. Just wondering if you could do a similar video with just the ava ones?
Cheers Rob, I think Ava may be doing commercial machines soon.
What fitting do you need to be able to attach the foam lance to the hd 4/8?
Kranzle 1050 plus mods or karcher HD 4/10 X Plus ? mostly for car wash and sometimes pavement wash
Hi, Thanks for the tutorial. I own a 9 year old K4 Eco which has just started to fail yet again. Can I use any of my fittings like the patio cleaner or the flexible nozzle to the HD 4/10
I dont think so unless you change the fittings which should be easily possible
Wich connection the hose uses i would like to get a short trigguer gun for it
Thank you for the video Dave. Those new Karcher professional pressure washers are definitely keenly priced. Like the universal fitting too 👍. Only problem for me is that I can't use one at the moment due to a hosepipe ban.☹️.
yeah its not great at the minute but i totally understand we need to save water
Fill a bucket of water. Stick your pressure washer supply feed in the bucket. Use pressure washer. Repeat repeat.
One way around the hosepipe ban.
Hey good video. Would you recommend getting mjjc with m22 female fitting to screw straight onto the 4/10 as I would need to screw the lance back on anyway? Have you got any links, prices seem to be shooting up. Thanks
Hi Mark. The only thing with screwing on the cannon all the time is the fact its really time consuming. When your working on cars you need to be as efficient as possible. Honestly karcher almost made the perfect machine for beginners in the Business
Hi Dave I'm looking for your products, looking forward to trying them out. Do you have a link to were I can buy them please, keep up the great work my friend. Epic is as epic does.
Hello Iain. I'll be posting the links to the new website in Tuesday as it's just a holding page until I press publish
@@epicautomotivedetailing excellent bud, followed your highs and lows thought out the years and loving the next step for yourself and family. Good look with everything and look forward to seeing what is yet to come.
Excellent video!
I’m thinking of buying the HD 4/8 rather than K4 or K5.
Can you tell me which snow lances are compatible with HD 4/8?
For example, the MJJC? Or would you recommend other lances with the HD 4/8?
As a newbie, I’m not sure about compatibility of snow lances or connector types needed with the HD 4/8!
Any guidance would be much appreciated!
Any snow foam lance with an M22/14 fixing will do the job or try and find a new stubby with a quick release connection as the screwing on and off is a bit tiresome
Hi Dave I see you are launching your own brand for cleaning products? where/when are they available to purchase?
Hello they are available on 17th aug 🙏
What about Ryobi pressure washers and patio cleaners
I've had 2 karchers and they didn't last a sniff! So went to nilfisk and they lasted for years recently got the P180 and it's an absolute beast!
Yeah mine is absolutely solid
Same here except I took the Kränzle route and never looked back. My Kränzle has cost me less than all the replacement kärchers I've had!
@@user-mq1hn3dw8l I've had various karcher equipment, the wee window van, steam mop etc and they all broke after no time at all, they didn't even get much use and were properly cared for. Shame as they used to be a good company
@@cedric1138 Gary, my thoughts exactly👍
You can get karcher q lock adaptors to fit to m22 fitting from other powerwashers , no issues
you got a link for connectors for HD/10x gun?
Dave, love you work! Keep it up👌. An idea: with chunks of the UK in a Hosepipe ban situation could you do a video showing effective 'bucket method' car washing without the use of pressure washers or handheld hose sprayers?👍
Yes I will cover this asap 🙏
@@epicautomotivedetailing nice one, bud!👍👌
Hey thanks for the review! The HD 4/8 seems like a great option for the price for a home car cleaning system.
One question, since the only thing that puts me off is the lack of quick release attachments, can these be modified with quick release adaptors? (From eBay etc)
Thank you!
you can basically customise it any way you want hose and gun coupling are M22 and the nozzle is M18, I bought a 4/10 and have quick connects on the hose and gun also got an 8m extension hose for £30 off ebay
I’ve bought two packs off Amazon and they are male not female to go on the nozzle. It’s a mind melt to find the right one. Can you advise on what’s the right connection? Save me crying.
@@shortrandomvlogs3675
The links are from ebay but it’s everything I’ve used so far from the lance jet to quick connect
1/4 quick connect to make gun stubby
3/8 quick connect from gun to hose and 3/8 male and female quick connect for hose couplings
Hope this helps 👍🏻
@@davidbrown2026 I've been looking but im not sure which is the right fitment for Karcher HD4/10x gun, could list the links?
@@davidbrown2026 I'm sorry Dave great video but the only links I can see are for KARCHER itself or your merchandise not for eBay. I'm trying to fit a surface cleaner to the gun with a 1/4 connection wand
Dave I’m so frustrated. I watched this video and bought this. But I can’t get the right connection to quick connect to my snowfoam lance. Can you advise on what I need to connect to the screw hose?
I'm in the same boat just now
This is well off topic but wow, your channel has grown in the last few months, well done dave, you definitely deserve it, all the best for your future endeavours.
Thanks mate, The Sad reality is that if i spent more time making non talking, relaxing therapy style videos id probably have 100k by now. CZcams being very harsh on creators like myself who are trying to spread awareness but instead they reward the boring stuff.
@@epicautomotivedetailing Your welcome and I didn't know that.
All mine have broken just outside warranty. Bought a Kranzle. Awesome.
how does this compare to something like a Big Boi?
So just a quick query to make sure im understanding correctly. Im looking to get a foam lance and surface cleaner because these dont have proprietary connection could i buy 3rd party Accessories?
No that's the downfall with them. However they are practically giving them away right now
Does the nilfisk have a steel braided hose ? Pretty sure they are the same as my stihl, only thing with the stihl, you don’t have that metal bar for the hose to run against, just the reel, think I’ll still be going with a nilfisk p180 next , they have an excellent track record for reliability, the stihl was fantastic at first but now 7yrs later constantly blows fuses, and the lance design (older type) wasn’t the best and if you want say a stubby gun you have to buy a nilfisk one as no one makes stihl ones, but they use same parts etc etc
Nilfisk actually white labelled their machines out to Stihl so it's identical. My p80 has mtm stubby gun and it's great. You definitely need quick release
@@epicautomotivedetailing yes I bought a autobrite qr with nilfisk adapter, plugged straight in, seen works great with my autobrite foam lance too, maybe not the best out there but it was a decent starting point for my needs,mtm will deffo be a be my next investment, especially with the lance you can add on 👌👌
Hi I’ve just bought a kranzle what’s the best garden hose for it and do I need different attachments
Any hose will do mate 👌
As a weekend warrior I have just had to replace an old K2 with the latest K2 universal. You should warn people that when Karcher upgrade not all their lances will fit their new machines.
Quote from Helpdesk "The new machines are not compatible with the older lances, this is because the connectors have been changed and there are no adapters for this."
I realise I should really have added this to your K2 video but I am guessing they will do this with other models as well. They quote the replacement for the lance which I bought for £80 will now cost me £48.94 which is about what I paid for the K2.
I liked the K2 because if fitted in a wheeled bucket under my workbench. Needless to say I used to buy a lot of Karcher kit (floor cleaners, hoovers, wipers, T Racer etc). That ends now!
They are changing again soon
Would you choose a hd4/8 or 4/10 over a Karcher k5? Great vid. Thanks
yes i would it has better internal components
Cool, which would be better the 4/8 or 4/10? Can you swap out the hoses on both? Would want a 15m hose and stubby gun. Not much information online
Suttner make a quick release for this. It is comparable and it has high quality stainless steel
It is I think 25$
Did anybody find affordable third-party accessories foam gun and patio cleaner for the HD4/8? currently, they are priced at over £150 each!!
I'm looking for a robust cleaner mainly for home use. thanks in advance.
my uncle have karcher k7.80 for over 15 years works same as first day and he does washed tons of cars with it
Yeah the k7 is one of my favourites. It's actually a very reliable machine. If they sort the design out it's one of the best
Have been using a K4 for a few years but the Achilles heel on them are the plastic cylinder head pumps and control heads which eventually end up with hairline cracks causing pulsating on off pressures, ok £55 quid to replace them (DIY) but they used to be ally cast which lasted. This was probably a deliberate design fault to make you buy new machines. What are the head pumps made of in these new Karchers ?
These are metal pumps
Thanks for letting me know 👍
Which foam cannon did you use on the hd 4/10 and 4/8
I’d like to know aswell
What is the snow cannon you used on the HD 4/8
That’ll be the hd foam gun @ £154 from Karcher.
Hi does this karcher has a european plugin or a classic uk plugin? Thanks
Great vid as usual, I wouldn't change my AVA P80 evo for anything lol what a machine bang on new karcher range though 👍👏👏👏👏👏👌
thanks mate
Not even a KRANZLE 😉😏🤔👌👍
The thing is, for the price you aren't getting very much... You can get a Nilfisk 145 for 60 quid less than the 4/10. I have got the AVA (my 3rd one).... Now it works as it should i absolutely love it. I wish it had a power control option.. Blasting door shuts sometimes can get a bit messy.
Your getting a commercial built machine. That comes with commercial warranty. The build quality is fantastic. I think it's perfectly priced. Yeah you can buy domestic models which give you more things like cannons etc but durability will never compete with a heavy duty model as I found out with my Ava p80
@@epicautomotivedetailing does this mean that the p80 is inferior build quality wise to the professional karcher units from this video?
?
is there a difference in the two when jet washing patios?
Both same
Your local farmfoods stores have these on offer ATM 4-3-23 I paid £222 ( hd4-10x ) with there vouchers in downloaded.😁💰
thats very good value
I got mine for £215 with vouchers thanks to the very nice young lady at the till great buy.
Also really easy to customise
Just seen those machines in my local farmfoods. Crazy deal 🤯
HD 4/8 on clearance in Farmfoods for £99.99 and if you can find one the lady says the the 4/10 is the same price (Sept 28th 2033)
You need to try a kranzle there small compact and heavy duty
I want to mate. Trying to borrow some for a video
Fantastic and informative video, thanks! How would this compare to the AVA P50 in your opinion?
Thanks Rob. I've got all the Ava's heading to the new studio in a few weeks so I'll be able to give you my thoughts. One thing I would say is the karcher is for commercial and Ava is domestic so it depends on your workload if you're a business or just an enthusiast
@@epicautomotivedetailing Ahhh lovely, I look forward to seeing it! Just a weekend enthusiast looking for something nicer than my current old refurbished K2 compact. I do like that Ava comes with everything in a bundle!
@@VersesX33 so Ava comes with more kit. The bundles are very good value for money. Also karcher accessories for Ava too. Whereas the karcher commercial you would need to buy all the fittings to make it beneficial. Stay tuned on my channel as I have an announcement regarding Ava which you may be interested in. Should be sharing the news next week
@@epicautomotivedetailing oh good to know! Thanks for letting me know I'll definitely be keeping an eye out 😊
Hi, what do you think about HD 6/13 C model pls? I'm getting confused with these numbers for them
i had one for about 8 years it was very good. maybe too powerful for car cleaning
@@epicautomotivedetailing thank you very much for your reply
I was in the mind of purchasing a K7, would you say this hd 4/8 is the better choice from the two?
depends on the purpose business or just for at home. k7 has more choice for accessories that are ready to go
Hi where can I get your cleaning products from as they look really good
17th August the website will launch will post links on the channel about us page and on social media
@@epicautomotivedetailing great I can't wait
🤔 Maybe if it’s no as powerful as others it would put out snowfoam better on the car because there less amount of water coming through the lance so would give it a more concentrated snow foam when applied
My snow foam is better with pf22 cannon on the p180. And that's really powerful
I've just bought an HD 4/8 based on reviews and terrific price but I'm finding it next to impossible to source a snow foam lance as apparently there's two different models of guns with different fittings on them .... looks like it'll be going back to the shop if I can't find one
Update .... I managed to find one albeit I had to buy an adapter for the snow foam lance .... Funnily enough a new trigger gun just screwed on to the hose and has a quick release connector so I might treat myself to that for Christmas as swapping the bottle off is a bit of faff
Hi, do you mind sharing where did you buy the adapter and snow foam lance from? Karcher's own brand costs as much as the machine itself!
@@jahan024 ... I bought two snow foam lances one was from a local branch of Auto Car Parts and the other was an online shop
Is the 4/8 M22 14mm or 15mm do you know?
@@ItsWillly .... I'm pretty sure it's M22/14 as the 15 tends to be petrol powered washers
Do you know where those machines builded ?
Probably parts from China
WOW HD 4/8 is 255pounds but in Australia the country of rip off its $699 FFS ....Please explain ? lol
Got a old karcher b402 ,twenty yrs old still going strong,got a karc her k2 for use with a snow foam gun,packed in within a year,the difference with the new models,the motors are plastic,modern cheap crap .
Would you prefer the ava p80 over those?
2 very different machines. They are so far apart in their own ways. These would be comparable to something like a karcher k4 to be honest
@@epicautomotivedetailing Thanks for replying. Would you as a car detailer with lots of experience recommend me getting for just home usage one of those or a p80 with all those features it comes with?
Still prefer the Ava you reviewed. When my current Bigboi pressure washer gives up, that’ll be next for me.
100% that's the thing with domestic pressure washers they are built to offer a bit of everything which makes them practical
Hey you dont need all tgat foam. Use ionised water pump
So I've only used this pressure washer one time. czcams.com/users/postUgkxfQauTxLT0JLSvqkq10rD79TU4k0Vz8zP The one time I used it, it worked great. I recently had new siding installed but kept the old gutters and small areas surrounding my house that weren't replaced so they looked horrible and dirty because of the new siding. I needed to get it cleaned asap. When I used the pressure washer, man it just melted all the dirt and grime that was on those areas of my house. I used that krud kutter soap and it was over after that. Easy to assemble, feels durable, very simple to use. Also, I purchased a used one to save money and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I want to get more use out of it so I think I'll be washing the cars and update this comment as time goes on.
Just purchased an hd 4/8 for £99 from farmfoods 💪🏻💪🏻
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Great video
Thanks Mike
Please I want to start my own car wash business karcher professional is good for the business please i need your advice help me
I think I'll stick with my Karcher K4, 15m hose from Hoses Direct, MJJC 2.0 Snow Foam Canon, MTM SGS35 Stubby Gun all on quick connects.
Nice one good set up 👌
Thanks for washing all my cars dave I really appreciate your hard work. Did your eye make a full recovery from when you sprayed yourself in it for the extra tenner?? I hope when you give up the pressure washing game your hairs grow back on your legs. Ps do you still have the tattoo of the smart car on your ass??
I’v not have a piss for 2 weeks because of the hosepipe ban! Lots of love derik
Just bought the hd4/8 for £99 in farm foods worth a check at your local one
That's unbelievable value for money. I don't need a pressure washer right now but even I may go buy another one for backup
How have you got on with it as I picked up one the other night for the same price but I've noticed it doesn't seem to take a standard quick lock hose connector but a screw on one and I've no idea on where to buy a foam lance as I'm not paying Karcher £145 for one
Nilfisk is simply the best!!!
can't argue with that. my nilfisk p180 was amazing
Farmfoods selling the HD 4/10 £149.99 minus the £12 vouchers they give, total price today £137.99. Absolute bargain!
HD 4/8 99.99gbp and HD 4/10 X classic 149.99gbp at Farmfoods, absolute bargain!
That's unreal go for it seriously
👍😊👍
thanks
Now, if i could get a Karcher that was 'hosepipe bam exempt' 🙂
Some Kärchers can draw water from a waterbutt so if you're lucky enough to still have water stored that could be an option.
Many ways to avoid the ban. The ban only means you can't wash your car by connecting it to a tap. Water butt, water tank, or even draw water from a Bucket. Pressure washers use upto 80% less water than a hose so technically there's nothing stopping anyone carrying on really
@@epicautomotivedetailing Thanks for.your reply, i agree that it could be technically ok, but neighbours might not see it that way. Knowing my luck, ill get mug shots and jail time for washing my car 😂
since 2022 Nilfisk offer 5 years warranty - game changer
They not fix if broke tho mine did after 7months and just did nothing to fix it shocking
Literally just bought a k6...rip
Sorry to hear that. It may be ok
Mac Allister blow the competition away.
Just picked up the 4/10 £229 from farm foods of all places 😂
That's a great deal 😀
Just bought the karcher 4/8 from my local farm foods for £99, bargain!
Seriously that's a Bargain
Got the 4/10 today for £90.99. Farm Foods with a £9 sign up voucher.
Farmfoods believe it or not is selling these for £199 and £229
You can't buy a commercial washer (at least one which lasts as it should and can be run all day every day). That simple. #kranzle
Kranzle still have their problems like any machine if not properly cared for
Most supermarket machines are designed to be run for no more than hour maximum. Why don't you get Karcher to give you one of their motors and display that in your video.
@@CutMowShearClear because they probably hate me lol
Marcher are pish never buying one again.
There still badly built karchers old stuff was way better built
I totally agree karcher have had some bad ones as Ive said in hundreds of videos lol. But these 2 do feel so much better 👌