What Happened To Lyman?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2020
- Lyman was a pretty major character in early Garfield, so why did he suddenly get written out? And why are there so many conflicting reasons for it? This video will probably tell you haha I don't know.
Various music sources: Myuu, Garfield's Scary Scavenger Hunt, Garfield Kart, and Xanadu.
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I love how everytime someone does a video like this, they use my photos of my 20 Years and Still Kicking book. It makes me smile to see how a simple Tumblr post I did spread so far, that those images are practically integrated into Garfield trivia at this point. 😅
I guess that's really the only way to find those pages, since I'm sure there's probably not a lot of those books left and I don't think there was a reprinting or digital copies made, lol. The binding was terrible, by the way, totally disintegrated after about five years, my book is held together with tape at this point. XD
I realize I'm pretty randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released movies online?
@Samir Ford I watch on FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
@Watson Esteban yea, I've been using flixzone for since april myself :)
@Samir Ford You are welcome :)
@Samir Ford You are welcome :)
The fact that there was a official garfield game with jumpscares in it is absolutley insane to me
that game was the shit when i was little
@@olliegoria exactly
Loved that game sm
It was really fun! You had to find donuts of different flavors scattered around a castle. It also had a sequel
It was pretty cool
Lyman was Jon's roommate, I always presumed he eventually moved out, and possibility forgot his dog.
If that was the true reason he left I don't think he'd forget his own pet dog, the place he was moving into probably didn't allow dogs so he just gave it to Jon.
yea but in the garfield show speacil they find where lyman went and he is wearing a monster custom to protect a jungle and he also met oddie and they were happy
@@avmadigan..6784 You mean they aren't canon to the comic strips, righy?
He didn't "forget" Odie. Odie was a gift. You can give people pets.
@@Tree_e888 when my ex and I broke up and she moved out, I ended up taking care of her cats for about two years. So that's as plausible an explanation for why Lyman left but Odie stayed as any.
Lyman is the W.D Gaster of the Garfield universe
I hate that i got this reference
@@N-Azp i hate that im here 16 mins after u are
I would like to introduce you to the fact that one of the actually artists who draws the Garfield comics drew a picture of Garfiels and sans the skeleton in the same image. Toby Fox even talked about it.
It’s funny how you mention this before a Garfield artist Made a picture of Garfield vs Sans
Comic number 6-17
When I was a kid Lyman’s disappearance inspired me to make a new comic where he was the owner of a pet cobra who loved to work out
Thats cute!
Do you still have any of those comics? Could you scan them up?
Cute!
Cute
Which one worked out, Lyman or the cobra?
Ok how about this.
Due to the happy nature of lyman and his little ability to talk to jon's depressed ass, he became a therapist talking to other people's depressed ass.
There. Thats the obvious answer
That's nice actually
@@ijustlikebees yeah, it sounds so wholesome
He died
@@kirbking8074 we’ll all die one day
@@walnutalpaca8608 yes, and in Lymans case, a few years ago
Eerie that Jon became goofier when Lyman left, they say killers sometimes take on personality traits of their victims.
Oh gosh....
So the basement thing might be true.
So the Kira Yoshikage association I have with him might be justified
Eerie. Really eerie
STOP!!! STOP!!! Please can we keep it sweet and goofy.
@@lifeiscats1337no
I like to think Jon noticed Lyman being abusive so he kicked him out and took ownership of Odie.
This is by far the best idea.
Granted seems like it was jons idea to swat odie in the first place
Happy ending :3
@@Randomd0g well yeah but you typically were only supposed to do it once, quickly and swiftly. Nothing serious. Nothing that… went on for a while.
Kicked him out of existence… *cough cough* he’s dead in Jon’s basement *cough cough*
Every picture of Jon from the Garfield Show is absolute gold
True
I use one of Jon looking disgusted as a reaction image on Twitter often
I remember watching that show on Cartoon Network
Why do people hate that show?? It's gold.
@@N.I.A23 ikr, I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been any memes spawned from that show.
I wanna come clean with this man. Garfield's scary scavenger hunt was played at my school in the computer lab every Halloween week. And it scared the absolute hell out of me, I was so scared of it, I was told to play a different game at the front of the class where I can't see anyone else's screens. And to make sure I didn't see any gameplay that scared me, I stacked my classes lunchboxes around my computer to prevent seeing any of the game.
But then like, in freshman year of high-school. On the day before Christmas Break. I played the entire game on my own in my video class, and I can now say proudly that I not only overcame a big childhood fear but ALSO beat the game and had fun!
He did it, boys
What a chad.
Same here friend! As a child I couldn’t finish playing it but at 17 I went back and finished and it was a bucket list cross off😆
Brave confession. Nicely….played….
I PLAYED IT ON MY FAMILY MAC HOLY SHIT
Oh Jim Davis, so innocent and pure. Thinks the people with anxiety about characters from the 80s are children
What anxiety?
@@TheKillerEmcee about where Lyman went lol
@@TheKillerEmcee the anxiety of the sudden disappearance of a character, especially if they are well liked, I dunno that's just my two cents
garfield's scary svanger hunt.... oh my god.... that just unlocked hidden memories from my childhood
Welcome to the club dude.
Let’s go back and replay this game, for the memories
@@ajward9112 hell yeah
@@ajward9112 we cant, flash is gone
Oh god me too
I felt that lyman was a good character to not have any knowledge on cats, allowing him and jon to bounce off each other well when garfield was up to something wacky. Like the strip you show where garfield is asking for the wine list
Actually he had 6 cats as a child if I remember. There names were cat, cat, cat, cat, cat and cat. He thought why should you name them, if they don't come when they are called.
Nice name lol
10 minutes of English class: 💀
10 minutes of obscure Garfield lore: ☺️
That's me but opposite
And pay attention in school
@@silvervr5911 thank you silver, very cool. I am now motivated to pay attention in school
Oh wow thanks and your welcome!
Literally same
"What happened to Lyman?"
Dissected by Dr. Garfield, that's for sure...
No
OH yeah! That "Lumpy touch" video!
But what about the good ending
the lumpy touch video???
My personal in-universe idea of why Lyman left is pretty simple. He simply got enough money while being Jon's roomate, and just left.
I feel like he would've taken Odie, but then again he was kind of mean to him.
@@nobodytheowl i think that's Jon's personality in his goofy bud
Or he got chaine-
When asked about what happened to Lyman, Jim Davis said, "Don't look in Jon's basement!" He was joking, but it still makes you think...
This video adresses that
I realize I'm pretty randomly asking this but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released movies online?
Thank you! 😁
Your welcome 🤗
Actually when you play scary scavenger hunt and go to the basement you'll see Lyman there chained up and asking for water
I remember playing Garfields scary scavenger hunt when I was 8-9 and it was genuinely a good game and scary game. I still can remember that eery ambient music being used, the paintings that would switch and the “look closely” jumpscare
The look closely jumpscare was so fucking scary lmafo
I only learned about this game today; how can I play it??
The reason Garfield talks in the Garfield Show is explained that he communicates with other animals, however humans cannot hear him unless magic or high-tech science is involved, such as in the small witchcraft saga when Mrs. Cauldron's niece uses a spell to understand Garfield. He talks to other animals, but humans hear Garfield in his low meows, along with other animals in their own respective sounds. They don't hear Garfield speak with words. Odie is incapable of talking normally though animalese without help though, so it's typically other animals translating for him, most of the time: Garfield.
I'm not sure what sounds a turtle makes to speak, but then again I'm not sure how a cat lives off lasagna.
Edit: I just remembered that the only time this rule is broken is when they are actively on the set for the Garfield Show, AKA when they're filming the show...within the show. Aside from that though, Garfield can't be heard.
My guess is that the Garfield show isn’t canon, but their explanation of what happened to Lyman is.
That doesn't make much sense...
5:19 I'd like to hear you discuss more about that game. Do you think you'll ever make a review/retrospective video?
That game was the bomb when i was a kid, dang
i like to think the reason Jon became more goofy and visibly unstable as the years went on is because he misses Lyman and is now suffering from crippling lonliness. sure, he has Liz and is thankful for her dedication, companionship and love, but she ultimately can never fill in the Lyman-shaped hole in Jon's lonely heart.
I remember a similar story happening in Foxtrot where the oldest son Peter had a blind girlfriend named Denise whom was slowly phased out of the comic strips over time. Although the reason given by the creator was a lot more simple, "I simply forgot to include her for a while and by that point I wanted to bring her back but I kept feeling anxious that if I did I'd be alienating new readers up to this point who didn't know who she was".
The character still exists in theory, they are still dating Peter but it's strange to forget a character who was fairly nuanced for a few years.
Damn that sucks, Denise was great
when i saw the "you have no idea how alone you are, garfield" i got chills
I think we all did
can't believe it took me until now to watch this masterpiece, never even knew about the whole xabadu storyline
i'm stuck between either desiring a good future where Lyman realizes he's not the best with pets and leaves Odie with Jon, or that Jon got tired of him not paying the rent and now he's a captive in his basement... dungeon... thing
Lyman feels like a ceeepy pasta from a unreleased comic or game
Someone should make a game like that that plays out like a comic
Lyman’s still with me, we love cooking together!
*He makes a good ingredient for my lasagna. Garfield seems to love them!*
@@AndyPlays130 I most definitely don’t believe in that supernatural gobbledygook! However, I never said anything about *killing* him…
@@AndyPlays130 there’s different way other than murder to getting fresh meat for my lasagna, and I’m gonna just leave it at that. :)
hamilton you don't have to kill someone to feed parts of them.
jon is amogus imposter confirmed???😳😳😳😳??
Best comment so far dude.
Kind of like Shermy in Peanuts. He was originally Charlie Brown's best friend then dissapeared. Eventually Linus would become Charlie Brown's best friend, with Schroeder as a close second.
Lyman's absence is the sole reason I will be boycotting Garfield Kart
Stop
👌🐔
I remember a day where I somehow glitched the game. The scared meter broke and I could look at everything without losing, and Garfield wasn’t colliding with stuff
I like to imagine that Garfield talking is actually just what we see, and its actually the words he is think, and Jon just understands him
That’s canon, actually. Garfield’s “speech” bubbles are actually thought bubbles.
Lyman in the basement literally looks like something out of a creepypasta. I can't believe it's in an official Garfield game
Oh my god that scavenger hunt game was my childhood. I think there was a second one but the first one was the best. I completely forgot he was in the basement waiting for donuts.
I think Lyman wouldn’t protect animals and would beat them telling how he beats oddie
Yeah
@@coemcoem7070 maybe Jhon was tired of that ands murdered him and kept odie
he's just punishes odie when odie does something bad, he loves odie
@@internet_user975 He's just so fierce about it though. Jon has swatted Odie a time or two himself, but I don't think he damn near choked him out though.
@@mikec1222 Maybe Lyman notices he is letting his anger out on Odie and that's why he joins the Peace Corps and leaves Odie to John.
To me, Lyman is still chained up in the basement of a haunted mansion.
I know im gonna comment here 10 months later but now that i realize, who chained him and how did he get in that mansion? 🤔
@@beni3463 probably Nermal
@@beni3463 I don't think the mansion is real. It's just the normal house transformed into a mansion in Garfield's mind.
I’m pretty sure the cartoon and the comics take place in separate continuities, in the comic Lyman joined the Peace Corps while in the show he lives in the jungle protecting the animals (kinda like Ace Ventura), that’s how both explanations can be canon but also not.
Not sure why this thing kept appearing my recommended feed, but I finally watched it and it was very engaging. Good job Tad, good job CZcams algorithm, good job Lyman, good job everyone!
Lyman is basically the Garfield version of Shermy from Peanuts. Someone who is a popular character in a comic but eventually fades away.
I remember playing Garfield’s Scary Scavenger and its sequel when I was a kid. They were pretty well made. Poor Lyman. Well, at least he’s found a new life.
oh my God seing Garfield's scary scavenger hunt is such a nostalgia trip for me. Used to love that game as a kid.
I always assumed a guy who was John's friend from Highschool, who was nicknamed 'Wheezer', was supposed to be Lyman. He showed up a bit later in the strips for a short while.
Love stumbling randomly upon the works of incredibly niche and specialized microcommunities on the internet. You KNOW you're about to learn somethin when you pull up a video like this
Honestly, I just can’t see why he got back on his feet and moved out, but wasn’t financially stable enough to take care of odie and gave him to Jon, not everything needs to be a horrific secret you know?
This channel is so underrated
And so is GarfieId!
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@@niteroger805 sus
Lyman has one of the creepiest faces to me. It took me forever to realize his weird “teeth” were his mustache.
while itd destroy the mystery i really wish lyman would at least make cameos every now and then, or show up in a special comic like the weeklong arc where garfield met his 1978 counterpart
I had a lot of these original books as a kid (5-6 years ago) and always wondered- why no Lyman in the newspaper?
As a kid I always imagined Lyman and Uncle Max from 'Calvin and Hobbes' were the same character. Both are dark-haired males with mustaches, both abruptly dropped out of their respective comics due to their creator hitting a block on what else to do with them, and we've never been told what Calvin's last name is so, for all we know, it could be Lyman. There's also Calvin's dad hinting that Max may or may not have done jail time in the past so that could explain the disappearance.
Yeah I was a bit of a weird kid.
WAIT THATS REALLY COOL I WANT TO KNOW MORE
The Scary Scavenger Hunt was so fun! I loved playing it as a kid!
Lyman moved to a faraway farm where he could live happily and play with other humans
This makes Meatcanyon’s video all the more terrifying…
Feels weird to find that Lyman was abusive to Odie when in the Garfield show Jon says "He couldn't get him to kill a cockroach"
Thank you for reaching into my subconscious and making me realize that in some point in my life, I DID play the Garfield flash games.
tad: "but... something strange would happen" in a focused voice
the image on screen: buff garfield
🦀 Lyman is gone 🦀
I never knew I needed this in my life until right now. Also, those clips of the Garfield computer games opened up some deep memories I never knew existed...wow.
Scary scavenger hunt is my favourite flash game like this, and I looked up lyman because I remember him in the basement and I was watching a vinesauce Joel stream and someone mentioned the fact he was removed and I wanted to know more! A great video, thank you
Damn... i never noticed that Lyman left the comic strip... i always thought that he was still there! How did i not notice that?
I played Garfield scary scavenger hunt when I was a kid. In first grade. I was terrified and haven't given it much thought until I watched this actually...
He should've been in Garfield kart Furious Racing
Strongly agree
@@TadIGuess sus
Lyman is 1 of my favorite characters. I sure do miss him.
Maybe John got tired of seeing Lyman kicking his dog, and friggin killed him.
The fact that he's chained up in the basement in the scavenger hunt game scares me, I can't stop thinking about it😢😭
he was just into kinky fun time with jon
4:42
i unlocked a hidden memory in the thumbnail already, then you had to do this to me. hit with a truck of nostalgia
Jim Davis: don’t look in Jon’s basement!
…
*”W H A T?”*
The scary scavenger hunt game was the shit when I was 7. Every Friday at school, the teachers let us have one hour to do whatever we wanted, it was called friday fun. Me and two of my friends used to use the schools laptops and would play the game all the time, I remember being really excited whenever we found items on the list or discovered clues, and just getting to do something fun with my friends. That was nearly ten years ago… I don’t talk to any of them anymore, but I’m glad we were able to make such fond memories over something as simple as a Garfield game, even if they most likely don’t care now. And I still love creepy things! It makes me kind of sad now, but change is a part of life, it’s inevitable.
Lyman took up a job in the city as as an lawyer, and moved to an apartment to be closer to the law firm that employed him. He was so successful that he started his own firm, and made millions of dollars off of it. He retired young, and is currently living in a luxurious mansion in Beverly Hills.
4:05 omg LASAGNA CAT! This clip is from the lasagna cat channel! It's because of that channel that I no longer watch or read anything relating to Garfield, mostly because the whole channel made me feel unsettled.
it's a shame that Lyman was taken out of the comics because despite him being violent towards poor Odie, I actually liked how goofy he was when speaking with Jon.
He's definitely my favorite, with Gar Of da Field at a close second.
i want to make a creepypasta about lyman now where jon goes into the basement to see his rotting corpse chained up and jon says "hey... lyman.. how are you?" and just talks practically to himself
Do it 😊
I never thought ill watch an Garfield lore video yet here i am
i thought it was confirmed that lyman just moved out and left odie with jon cause he couldnt care for oddie??? man garfield lore is weird
When I was in 4th grade, I got a Garfield comic book and I saw Garfield Odie and Jon And this character yawning. I didn’t know who the character was, but thanks for telling me the name of the character after 15 years.
You are so underrated. You need more subscribers.
Garfield's Scary Scavenger hunt scared the daylights out of me when I was a kid, I completely forgot it existed
nah ima take jon killing lyman as the canon
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3:16 number 5 here made me suddenly realize how horrifying it would be to only exist as a drawing
I loved that scary scavenger hunt when I was little. I used to play it over and over every halloween
I'm honestly shocked that no one seems to have posited the theory that Lyman just left Odie with Jon, at that point a proven decent pet owner, and gotten back together with his old girlfriend.
Garfield scary scavenger hunt is the first flash game I’ve ever played so that’s why it’s one of my favourites 👍
Man, I remember that one flash game where Garfield had to explore a haunted mansion. Very good game. 9/10
I remember playing that game. I recognized it in your thumbnail but had completely forgotten it and had to know where I remembered it. Then the memories flooded back
It just seem funny when Lyman left John started to go mad and talking to his cat
So we basically watched Johns evolution into a crazy cat person.
Dude holy shiz!
I loved Garfield but randomly stumbling upon the Scary Scavenger Hunt game scarred me for life just because of the jumpscares
I didn't even last 40 minutes
THE GARFIELD HORROR GAME BRINGS BACK SO MANY MEMORIES, I FEEL BLESSED TO FIND THIS VIDEO
3:32 *Dim Tavis*
I like how you used the same collection of music that ScareTheatre uses, almost as if Lyman's disappearance is in the same boat as a creepypasta or a serial killer's manifesto.
4:40. I actually played that game on a stream. It’s a really good game.
I remember the spooky scavenger hunt game. I used to play it all the time as a kid, and I honestly forgot about it. Thank you for bringing back old memories lol.
This video reminded me of the garfield halloween game, a thing i completely forgot existed, i never got to complete it fully cus the websites i played it on were shit. I used to be very scared of it, just cus of that one clown in the attic that would scream at you, i had nightmares for days after that. Also amazingly done video
The scavenger hunt game is bringing back some real nostalgia from elementary school
I had always wondered about this, being a huge Garfield fan myself. Thanks for the explanation.
That scary scavenger hunt game was actually a game i used to play every now and again as a kid. Never got far as i was not good at it and couldnt speak english but i do remember it
Garfield was a Doctor, put him on their table and cut him open - "Dr Garfield" Reference...
I assumed that he transitioned and reemerged as Liz, hence her longtime reticence at dating John...
Hey, friend of Levy here. I'm not even subbed on this acct but I'm still seeing this video. Let's see this blow up!
The case of Lyman mostly disappearing from the comics reminds me of how shermy dissappered in the peanuts comics
I didn’t realize this was a 10 minute video when I tapped, neither did I expect to stay. Quality video man
Although lyman did appear in a few episode of garfield we still barely see him as I only saw lyman in 1-2 episode
Spooky
The newspaper smack oof
Sandwiched between 2 other characters damn yea that'd remove him
Wait so Odie wasn't Jon's until after?
Damn Jon brutal keeping him in the basement
Ah a less spooky reason, f
Yo potaaaaassium
The classic conflicting reasons trick 😎
The ending bit lol that was good