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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • #orchestrallibraries #orchestralibrariescomparison
    In this video, I play LIVE REALTIME and compare my favourite top full-orchestra libraries.
    The libraries :
    Eastwest Hollywood Orchestra Opus: astoundcommercecorporation.sj...
    Steinberg Iconica Sections & Players: new.steinberg.net/vst-instrum...
    VSL Special Edition: www.vsl.co.at/Synchronized_Sp...
    Spitfire BBC Orchestra: www.spitfireaudio.com/shop/a-...
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Start
    04:08 - Violins
    06:48 - A little bit about the orchestras
    12:32 - Layering the violins
    12:59 - Violas
    16:55 - Cellos
    21:32 - Basses
    23:03 - Flutes
    26:38 - Clarinets
    28:56 - Bass Clarinets
    29:54 - English Horn
    30:51 - Oboes
    32:59 - Bassoons
    34:26 - Contrabassoons
    35:50 - Harp
    36:57 - Timpani
    38:53 - Glockenspiel
    39:56 - Celestas
    41:18 - Trumpets
    44:37 - Trombones
    47:02 - French Horns
    53:42 - My thoughts
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Komentáře • 405

  • @DarkSideofSynth
    @DarkSideofSynth Před 2 lety +252

    Shall we stop for a moment, and appreciate and applaud Dom's brilliant playing skills? Without which, we would not be able to hear how libraries react to real playing instead of programming. Bravo!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +18

      ♥️♥️♥️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @DarkSideofSynth
      @DarkSideofSynth Před 2 lety +4

      @@DomSigalas OK, now you can wire me the sum we agreed upon :))))

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +6

      @@DarkSideofSynth it’s already in your PayPal 😂😂😂

    • @DarkSideofSynth
      @DarkSideofSynth Před 2 lety +2

      @@DomSigalas It is, indeed! ευχαριστώ!

    • @macdaddybender
      @macdaddybender Před 2 lety +1

      Hear hear. I've had a great time just sitting back and listening to his playing.

  • @ViennaSymphonicLibrary
    @ViennaSymphonicLibrary Před 2 lety +32

    Thank you for your kind words and great presentation of our product, Dom! 💙

    • @bartbannister394
      @bartbannister394 Před rokem +1

      I will buy your product if and when I find out whether it can be installed on a Mac Mini and is compatible with Digital Performer. Please advise.

  • @Torulv
    @Torulv Před rokem +48

    04:27 Steinberg
    05:12 Eastwest Hollywood
    05:45 Spitfire BBC
    06:18 VSL
    11:40 Steinberg
    11:48 Eastwest Hollywood
    11:56 Spitfire BBC
    12:04 VSL

    • @martytables
      @martytables Před 7 měsíci +2

      You're a hero, thanks for the timestamps!

    • @Torulv
      @Torulv Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@martytables Hehe no problem. I like to A|B test the samples by pressing the timestamps ;)

  • @LearnWithStephen
    @LearnWithStephen Před 2 lety +3

    Great in-video zooms and layout. Fantastic info! Wow! Comprehensive ...and you are like a painter the way you transform the attack and volume. (And you have the link? Amazing!) Such a pleasure Dom! Thank you!!

  • @TheSaboteurLT
    @TheSaboteurLT Před rokem +2

    dude the quality of this video is insane, the music keeps your attention in the background too, and the way you speak is just so good at keeping peoples attention too.

  • @jumpcut3
    @jumpcut3 Před 2 lety

    Awesome demo! Thank you for taking the time!

  • @yuulian4776
    @yuulian4776 Před rokem +4

    Your staccatos/spicattos playing skill is giving me goosebumps. Great work

  • @mralextan1
    @mralextan1 Před 2 lety

    I came here for demos and reviews and got emotional listening to your playing! Thank you!

  • @OrlandoAponte
    @OrlandoAponte Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for making a video like this. Anyone with great skill can make all of these orchestral sample libraries sound incredible, especially in a fully produced mix that caters to the strength of the samples, but this gives you the truest "out of the box" impression you can get.

  • @karelhoogendoorn
    @karelhoogendoorn Před rokem

    I really enjoyed this video Dom. The first one from your channel, but I will watch more. Great editing, great playing skills and a good vibe!
    This look into all the orchestra libraries made me even more enthousiastic to have my own studio. Thnx!

  • @rafik2910ify
    @rafik2910ify Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Dom, Hope U’re fine.
    I can’t stop listening that Lacrymosa, dude it gives me tears !!!
    We can obviously see lots of emotion, and that great satisfaction you feel when playing it.
    Since my youngest age , from the day I heard Mozart Requiem I knew I wouldn’t find peace until being able to reproduce that masterpiece, so that anybody can do it…
    Listening to you playing orchestral with closed eyes is no more hearing but feeling the music !! BRAVO 👏

  • @NikolayVysochin
    @NikolayVysochin Před rokem

    Thank you Dom! Great overview of the libraries!

  • @Pianistec
    @Pianistec Před rokem +4

    Years ago I started with EastWest Composers Cloud which allows Non-billionaires to use extremely good libraries for monthly fees as much as Netflix, but you're investing in your dream, not in time waste. High recommendation at this point. But as soon as I started to buy more libraries, I become addicted to buy more and more, so watch out xD

  • @buzzdx
    @buzzdx Před 2 lety +4

    it's really nice to see how much you enjoy playing these =)

  • @BigMTBrain
    @BigMTBrain Před rokem +4

    Wow! If you're new to orchestral composition and orchestral libraries, like me, and thought orchestral libraries were all quite similar, what an eye-opener! Multiple libraries is definitely the way to go, if you want and can afford the added versatility and coverage in sound. Thank you so much for producing this fabulous educational video. Your feel and passion shines.

  • @AliAlZayer
    @AliAlZayer Před 2 lety +3

    Iconica for most of demo I heard gave me live feeling . I start to love it more after this video thanks Dom

  • @ReptileRaptureRR
    @ReptileRaptureRR Před 7 dny

    Thank you,
    I think I’ll download the BBCSO in the morning. This is the comp I needed.
    BBCSO is super clean and natural!!!!

  • @reziahamed6654
    @reziahamed6654 Před 2 lety +2

    Exceptional showcasing Dom.. these companies REALLY ought to sponsor you.. Amazing talent as always.. Above all library options- I stand with your skill and ability to make anything sound better.. In proper hands any of these would excel, especially yours !!! Cheers & God Bless... 😍😍🥇🎆👍

  • @victornoagbodji
    @victornoagbodji Před 2 lety

    Thanks for doing this comparison. Very fun and instructive 😊 🙏 😊

  • @Torulv
    @Torulv Před rokem +6

    17:05 Steinberg
    17:41 Eastwest Hollywood
    18:33 Spitfire BBC
    18:56 VSL
    19:20 Steinberg
    20:01 Steinberg
    20:06 Eastwest Hollywood
    20:19 Spitfire BBC
    20:32 VSL

  • @TakahashiJones
    @TakahashiJones Před 2 lety +51

    Would love to see a guide to orchestrating in Cubase, creating/setting up expression maps, basic dos and don'ts.

    • @costinvaly1
      @costinvaly1 Před 2 lety +2

      what's the mod slider he's using above his keyboard mod/pitch wheel?

    • @Notmehimorthem
      @Notmehimorthem Před 2 lety

      See my post above

  • @connollytunes
    @connollytunes Před rokem

    WELL!!! This was one of the most enjoyable videos I have watched in a while. Thank you. Never seen any of your videos before, and you are so approachable and believable. Will probably be watching your piano comparison vid next. I now just have to somehow find thousands of pounds to buy each and every one of these libraries...

  • @Frontier2000AnoDomin
    @Frontier2000AnoDomin Před rokem +1

    Another great video Dom, and nice to see you playing too. We recently tried creating a Kontakt string orchestra patch by layering various of these libraries together. The idea was to create a huge sound but with a relatively low, CPU, RAM and loading footprint. In reality you get to a point where you don´t benefit much from layering… there´s like a sweet-spot peak beyond which it doesn´t really get any better.
    What we actually found more useful was to layer in a few solo strings, just enough to pick out on the higher velocities or hard vibratos. That actually did a lot to bring a bit more life and less repetitive sound in the patches.
    Thanks for the vid.

  • @aspyccias
    @aspyccias Před 2 lety

    Very good video indeed to explain how each library has its own goods and bads and any of them isn't perfect, just different. Thank you so much for confirming that the way you did! Just a simple and natural presentation in which we feel so much your passion :) It reminds me the time when I tried different libraries and I decided to make a choice of one and not mix them together... Maybe it'll change my mind about that. But anyway, I'd need so much free time (and money as well) to explore them that way.

  • @Gawkie
    @Gawkie Před 2 lety +1

    thank you so much for taking the time to make this! i was looking to replace bbcso core with a different package, while i love the sound of bbcso it feels a bit limited dynamically, but your video showed me its definitely my fault not using the Expression properly with CC1, so thank you for saving me the money and letting us watch you play magnificently ^^

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +2

      You are mostly welcome! I got more of these coming up :)

    • @costinvaly1
      @costinvaly1 Před 2 lety

      what's the mod slider he's using above his keyboard mod/pitch wheel?

  • @cats-and-robots
    @cats-and-robots Před 2 lety +5

    I feel like I've watched and listened to so many of these orchestral comparison vids and STILL can't decide! Thanks Dom

    • @TomSeeryCreative
      @TomSeeryCreative Před 2 lety +1

      I'm in the same boat lol. So hard to decide!

    • @Superduperond
      @Superduperond Před 2 lety +1

      I got BBCSO core as my first complete orchestra. Couldn't be happier with it!
      Especially since they give you complete templates for free 😊

    • @cats-and-robots
      @cats-and-robots Před 2 lety

      @@Superduperond great suggestion, thank you!

    • @matrixate
      @matrixate Před 2 lety +1

      I remember those days. Good luck. Talk to people. Don't buy blindly. It will all depend what music you want to compose and how quickly you need to have the song done.

    • @apfelnymous5367
      @apfelnymous5367 Před 2 lety

      @@Superduperond But no solos with the core version ?

  • @shockdog0784
    @shockdog0784 Před 3 měsíci +1

    All libraries are Amazing! Fantastic video.

  • @AustinSchend
    @AustinSchend Před 2 lety

    What a value-packed video. Thank you.

  • @MathieuPrevot
    @MathieuPrevot Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video. I wished I saw it before I acuired my first orchestra. I must say, the Spitfire BBC, is very qualitative and realistic. Yes, please, a dedicated woodwinds video !

  • @cguzelli1
    @cguzelli1 Před 6 měsíci

    Beautifully played passages that shows your musicianship on how each instrument is to be played with passion and within the context of an orchestra. I also have a Monogram for expression, fade, etc. As a classical pianist (and former musician in bands of various genres) I have now written several classical compositions in the framework of the Masters for piano and various orchestral groupings. I know what you mean - one library isn't enough to get a full palette of sound one needs to create different sound stages. Thank you Dom, for this video, it has made my decision making a lot easier for the first library.

  • @vts404
    @vts404 Před 2 lety

    Great Video! Thank you Dom

  • @mtgstudios1556
    @mtgstudios1556 Před rokem +2

    I've been trying to get back in to making my own music due to taking a large motivation hit.
    I always tended to like Orchestral music and wanted to make high quality songs because there really is a huge difference between a quality sound and a sound that doesn't have the right feel.
    Before I would end up giving up because no matter what I tried the sounds wouldn't end up being adequate for me.
    These sounds were perfect though. So, may try to get one of them and see if I end up being able to get back into it and maybe even try to see if I can revive a dead passion of mine.
    Thanks for posting this video dom. I'd come up on a difficult time and have been struggling to keep hope alive for the future due to unfortunate circumstances. So this gives me something to have some drive for. Thanks for that.

  • @lexcalistion6806
    @lexcalistion6806 Před rokem +1

    Incredible!!!! ❤

  • @dimitargadzhev3800
    @dimitargadzhev3800 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, super video!!!

  • @muziksculp2r
    @muziksculp2r Před 2 lety

    Hi Dom,
    Thank You Very Much for this great Orch. Libraries comparison video. You did a fantastic job.
    Cheers,
    Muziksculp

  • @anancha4665
    @anancha4665 Před 2 lety +1

    Dom! You have no Idea how much this helps me. I myself have been looking out for a good orchestral library but it is so hard to find good comparisons to make the right investement. Thank you so much!

    • @sanjkarunakaran1788
      @sanjkarunakaran1788 Před 2 lety

      Hey, out of curiosity, which one did you like the most - and for what reason?

    • @anancha4665
      @anancha4665 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sanjkarunakaran1788 it's hard to say which one I like the most. I was positively surprised by the Hollywood orchestra because it has a very big sound which is very useful for action. I like the strings of the spitfire, but brass is lacking a bit of that epicness which is good for classical music though. Overall I sink the VSL Orchestra had the best quality but I don't like the interface that mich and it is very expensive. I Ultimately bought the spitfire bbcso (core) during black Friday because it was 40% off and only 280 € which is incredibly low priced imo for it's package overall. You also got a really cool synth library extra if you brought some stuff together with it.
      In the end, it kind of depends what budget you have and what U want to compose and score. I think the BBCSO is a great entry point. But if you want to have very big and epic sounds without too much extra work, the Hollywood orchestra probably is the best. If U have a big budget maybe the VSL Orchestra would be the best as long as U are fine with it's interface. I also wouldn't forget orchestral tools. Dom only showed a library they worked on by cubase themselves which I didn't like, but orchestral tools has some really great (and also expensive) libraries like the Berlin series. But both orchestral tools and VSL are the most expensive I think.
      For me the spitfire bbcso is definitely enough for now. Although, the legatos are sometimes lagging a bit, I love the interface and it's convenience. The sound quality itself is also very good, especially the strings

    • @sanjkarunakaran1788
      @sanjkarunakaran1788 Před 2 lety +1

      @@anancha4665 wow thank you, this is perfect!
      I figured I prefer the BBCSO for the style of music I'd want to compose (for reference, I really love the Nier and Violet Evergarden soundtracks) and found all the others too "epic" sounding and maybe even a bit generic. That black Friday deal looks like an absolute steal - guess I'll wait next year and bulk buy VSTs haha

    • @anancha4665
      @anancha4665 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sanjkarunakaran1788 glad I could help :) right now I think there is also a winter sale at spitfire audio also with 40% off. But you won't get an extra library with other things together. I think there also spring sales and summer sales so basically this is almost every time on sale haha (but without the extra library deal I think)

  • @IroLidorikioti
    @IroLidorikioti Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice and detailed video! You can get a good idea for each one of them!

    • @peterpeper4837
      @peterpeper4837 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes it is really very detailed...unfortunately.
      When I blissfully thought that I could just upgrade my eastwest to the new opus and call it a day, here comes Dom with his excellent points and forces reality, that you need at least two of them.
      Oh, the Horrors!

    • @IroLidorikioti
      @IroLidorikioti Před 2 lety

      @@peterpeper4837 Hahahha!

  • @synthinator375
    @synthinator375 Před 11 měsíci

    Great channel ! Thanks man 🤘😎

  • @BeatMax2023
    @BeatMax2023 Před 2 lety

    Very nicely played!

  • @MaxTooney
    @MaxTooney Před 2 lety +1

    Nice breakdown; greatly appreciated. Enjoyed the 'Die Hard' chord (maj7 #5) @ 53:09

  • @Torulv
    @Torulv Před rokem +3

    Bass
    21:35 Steinberg
    22:03 Eastwest Hollywood
    22:26 Spitfire BBC
    22:42 VSL
    Woodwinds
    24:07 Steinberg
    24:34 Eastwest Hollywood
    24:59 Spitfire BBC
    24:34 VSL

  • @tomaszwielechowski6824

    What a great t-shirt :) Thank you for your videos :)

  • @araliman6318
    @araliman6318 Před rokem +2

    thank u mate u r the good musician !

  • @jdavidojeda
    @jdavidojeda Před 2 lety

    What a nice video thanks to your good taste to playing

  • @TheNCGardener
    @TheNCGardener Před 6 měsíci +1

    you are a genious. bravo!

  • @Zaleskee
    @Zaleskee Před 2 lety

    Bravo Maestro!

  • @matsolsson4978
    @matsolsson4978 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing! You got yourself a follower!

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios

    Yes PLEASE!!! Libraries with sections.

  • @twtobin941
    @twtobin941 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks, excellent comparison... I heard things I did not realize before between these libraries. I have BBCSO and agree with many commenters that it does not have enough FF, but is beautifully round sounding and I like that it is in a bit drier/smaller hall so I can add ambience as needed (I am using EW Spaces II). I have some VSL, but not the full Synchron, just Big Bang and some individual instruments.. In this comparison I found VSL rather thin and edgy sounding compared to the others in many ways, but some instruments are great. Always wondered about EW Opus and though it sounds great for some things, some instruments do not sound as good as I expected. I also have some 8Dio, so if BBCSO brass isn't brash enough, I can use Century Brass, or Legion 66 Trombones and Tubas, which are all VERY big sounding. Really like your style of reviewing.. subscribed!

  • @Shane-music
    @Shane-music Před rokem +13

    Picking an orchestral library has got to be the hardest thing I've done my whole life! They all sound so good!!
    ...I haven't had a very hard life.

    • @marcusstrymon693
      @marcusstrymon693 Před 7 měsíci

      Uff nice
      I mean its always awesome when there is mostly good choices

  • @marklholloway
    @marklholloway Před rokem

    Beatiful playing! I really like Iconica as best all around value for the money. Sounds incredible and VST Expressions is a real differentiator. Love the folks at Spitfire. That’s a rabbit hole of libraries 😅

  • @Progmium
    @Progmium Před 2 lety +1

    Great comparison! Awesome playing as well! EastWest and Orchestral Tools are my favorites. I think you can cover most bases with those. But BBC is great as well.

  • @seanpowell1895
    @seanpowell1895 Před 11 měsíci

    Awesome vid!

  • @io2012
    @io2012 Před 2 lety

    Very good video. Thanks.

  • @tigerboy4516
    @tigerboy4516 Před 2 lety

    a demo like this is no doubt the only way to compare

  • @Kris_jellybeard
    @Kris_jellybeard Před 2 lety +1

    Just discovered your channel. Great share of knowledge!

  • @switterbeet
    @switterbeet Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice comparison dude! Its really interesting how the hollywood orchestra reeally sticks out with its hollywood movie type sound so it really does justice to his name! Will you buy and make a review of Orchestral Tools librarys someday? I plan on buying on of theirs someday

  • @AndraDare
    @AndraDare Před 2 lety +4

    Wow, great demo. Tough choice between Iconica and Hollywood Opus. To my ear Iconica has better string sounds, but I greatly preferred the woodwind sounds on Hollywood and on the BBC. I'm about to buy but what a tough choice!

  • @RenevolutionAccount
    @RenevolutionAccount Před 2 lety

    brilliant ! 👍🏽

  • @switterbeet
    @switterbeet Před 2 lety

    Nice to know im not the only one whos really into synth and classical instruments

  • @Notmehimorthem
    @Notmehimorthem Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Dom, thanks for the videos, big fan here. I have been playing around with EW Hollywood Opus's Orchestrator. I am finding it an astoundingly good learning tool. Here is a bit of a run down:
    It's an "orchestration engine" . In a basic way one can press a few keys, and it can play back a whole arrangement. Before people switch off and call it a "cheat", I want to point out that many master orchestrators studied the scores of others. There is no shame here. The outputted score is not only very analysable, but its also very customisable.
    One can start with the presets - these are all composed full orchestra (or part orchestra if you wish) ensembles playing in a certain style. I can hear they are based on famous masters and hollywood style arrangements. You can, if you wish, simply play in a few simple notes or chords and the whole orchestra will follow (use a bit of mod is better) giving you a fast impressive arrangement. But there is MUCH more.
    In the original orchestrator using Cubase or any sequencer, if you looked at your MIDI recording, you only saw the notes you played on your keyboard - on a single instrument track. Not very educational! In it's latest incarnation EW have added a powerful hand icon. This is how it works. After you have played a passage (using single notes and simple chords) you can simple drag the hand across to Cubase, then the exploded score is put into Cubase, one MIDI track for each instrument all labelled correctly. You know have the whole score viewable in CUbase. You can of course select all the tracks and see the notation.
    One adjustment is required before playback. For each MIDI track, one has to select your target Opus instance as the MIDI output, in Cubase's Inspector. After this, go back to the orchestrator and hit the bypass button next to the hand (bottom RHS) and this mutes the original instrument track. Now only the expanded MIDI tracks will sound.
    This is an incredible learning tool, it's much better than simply importing a MIDI score, its soooo flexible, one can change anything. It's also a great way to learn how modern composers orchestrate. It will give you orchestration chops. It's not just MIDI too, the presets have tweaks like keyswitch articulation lanes, mod lanes etc. Such a great way to learn!
    Even THIS is not all! Not only are there over five hundred customisable presets, but there is the ability, in a key edfitor, in the app, to change notes (you could also do this in Cubase if you have dragged the MIDI over),
    You can even make your own preset from scatch. Here is an overview of this process. In the Orchestrator instruments are arranged in score order. You can Select your instruments, then allocate a range for it to operate in (for example a Cello might copy a bass in lower range an octave above, or it may carry a melody in it's high range). For each instruments you do this. Then in the key editor in the Orchestrator you put in the desired notes of your melodies. You can save this as a user preset and it will play back just like the provided orchestrator presets.
    This is very useful for creating your own ostinatos for example. I could imagine a custom preset being used to signify a particular character entering a stage for example.
    I know you have an interest in orchestration. I find this so stunningly good. I hope you could do a comprehensive video of this feature. Check it out :)

    • @theodoreleon2882
      @theodoreleon2882 Před rokem

      Hey is there a guide video about the hand icon? the drag the hand across to Cubase,
      then the exploded score is put into Cubase, one MIDI track for each instrument all labelled correctly
      Im about to buy EW Hollywood Opus's Orchestrator but i was skeptical about the midi information of all instruments not being in cubase, I'm used to seeing what everything is doing so this feature is exactly what I was looking for.
      Thank you

  • @Kingchord2000
    @Kingchord2000 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Dom, Love your new tune Futile We Are!👏👏👏👍👍 So mysterious and sad.

  • @SteveTheRooster1
    @SteveTheRooster1 Před rokem

    I'm in love with the french oboe from VSL ! Amazing😵

    • @DopeyFish
      @DopeyFish Před rokem

      VSL is so pricey though ;_;

  • @Dmitry_Perelekhov
    @Dmitry_Perelekhov Před 2 lety

    Good big job, Thank You ☺️

  • @Markrspooner
    @Markrspooner Před 2 lety +18

    Would love to know your thoughts on modelled libraries like Sample Modeling, Infinite Series by Arron Ventures and SWAM by Audio Modeling. These type of libraries try to give you more of that feel of playing the instrument rather than samples and keyswitches. They also work very well with Divisimate where you can have Midi routed to various instruments at the same time.

    • @costinvaly1
      @costinvaly1 Před 2 lety +1

      what's the mod slider he's using above his keyboard mod/pitch wheel?

    • @PaulEvansRahal
      @PaulEvansRahal Před 2 lety +1

      @@costinvaly1 Search for Monogram midi controller

  • @f.joaquinrevilla
    @f.joaquinrevilla Před 2 lety

    Ok ok, I'm looking for some "mates" (Latin American infusion) and I watch the complete video ... that's why I met you Dom, youtube showed me your video of Mozart's Requiem, as splendid as this one. Greetings from Argentina!

  • @JordanpUK
    @JordanpUK Před 2 lety +16

    To my ears, BBC and Hollywood are the best sounding. Awesome video!

  • @G-Doggy
    @G-Doggy Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the practical demo. I always enjoy your videos. The faces you make when you play need to be made into part of the GUI for a library, so they appear when using expression. 😀

  • @George.SoundVelocity
    @George.SoundVelocity Před 2 lety

    Was about time man!!! Amazing video as always.. i want more of this :)

  • @Po1itica11yNcorrect
    @Po1itica11yNcorrect Před 2 lety +5

    When I first started earlier this year, EW Hollywood Opus Diamond was recommended by Sweetwater so I went with that, along with Hollywood Choirs. Then Spitfire had their Summer Sale and I went completely overboard because the prices were simply too good to pass up. BBCSO, all the Abbey Road One's, all 6 Albion's, HZ Percussion, HZ Strings, Hammers, Eric Whitacre Choirs as well as some of their smaller libraries. After that sale had ended, I added Damage 2, Nucleus, as well as a few other libraries. Of them all, I tend to use the Abbey Road's and BBCSO the most.

    • @anancha4665
      @anancha4665 Před 2 lety

      What do you think about the brass of bbcso and can it be used for epic scorings as well? I'm thinking about buying it on black Friday sale :)

  • @chrisstaubyn774
    @chrisstaubyn774 Před 2 lety +11

    Steinberg's Iconica was consistently great. EW Hollywood was also fairly consistently great. I especially liked the close mic sounds of the VSL, but the brass section was distinctly not as good as the others. The BBC was nearly last place in every category, but I think it did shine well in brass, harp, timpani and glockenspiel. Just my two cents.

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +4

      Yes I was also surprised by the results when I played them side by side for the video. I like all of them for different things although every library has some weak spots for sure :)

    • @GuyVignati
      @GuyVignati Před 2 lety +3

      I suggest you to check the new Brass Library from VSL, it sounds very good.

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +3

      @@GuyVignati this is coming up in a future video :)

    • @GuyVignati
      @GuyVignati Před 2 lety

      @@DomSigalas thank you so much, even if I was referring to Christofer since he wasn’t satisfied with the brass sound from VSL 😆. Anyway talking about video requests it would be awesome to see how you organize your expression maps.

  • @owenlimjiajun4518
    @owenlimjiajun4518 Před 2 lety

    Nice ! Another gold again!
    Just wondering what is the best quality solo string in your opinion, hopefully can make a video about this in future 🙏

  • @DDIII3
    @DDIII3 Před 2 lety

    To me, the I don't have sounded most realistic: Steinberg. I love the rounded sound of BBC and that one and EW Opus usually came in 2nd to my ear. The VSL library sounded like I was hearing it through a tube. Distant. Great demonstration. Sub'd and Liked. Will watch more. Thank you.

  • @jonathan_audet
    @jonathan_audet Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Dom, great video that needs to be seen at this time of year (Black Friday deals on). I already own EastWest and BBC Core and with what I have I totally agree of picking and choosing between libraries which depends on the actual composition. One thing I started to do is creating my own expression maps for Hollywood Orchestra Opus in Nuendo and I stopped when I watched this video saying it can be "imported". Is there a specific setting needed for this to work? (Rack or Instrument track?, single instrument loaded per instance?, Omni channel selected in VST?) As I can't see the option to import when I select my track that is connected to the VST. Thanks again for your videos, great work!

  • @nomorebushz
    @nomorebushz Před 2 lety +1

    The beginning theme in the movie Prometheus had a wonderful French horn sound

  • @kayceparkinson9018
    @kayceparkinson9018 Před 2 lety

    Very good video. I had written off the Hollywood orchestra too hastily. I was going after VSL or BBC. I think BBC is still my favorite because I’m more into the warmer sounds vs. more aggressive sounds. I didn’t like the VSL quite as much as I thought. I noticed that you said that the expression mapping was a perk of the Steinberg library but I’ve been able to do it with a BBC discover template easily. They do all sound great!

  • @shamcra
    @shamcra Před 11 měsíci

    A very interesting and insightful view on the differences between these libraries.
    I have the EW Hollywood library and loving it (apart for the GUI :) ). VSL really impressed me. Some brass had a tad of synthetic distortion but over all it sounded fantastic.
    I don't know if you used the default settings on the libraries, but I was surprised how bad the BBC SO's short strings sounded. Not responsive at all.
    Thank you for making this video. I will look into the VSL products.

  • @mrdali67
    @mrdali67 Před 2 lety +3

    What a great video. Does not make it easy to choose, cause all of them have places they shine and some where they are not so good. Only thing I miss is the actual feeling in how they react to your playing, but there is 2 parts to the agility in the fast and short notes. there's the latency you feel when actually playing them and the agility of the samplings. It's not a clear win on every instrument, but really many of them I feel the agility of the samplings, East West have a couple heads to the rest of the crowd, and It has this beautiful Epic sound. All very nice libraries.... give me 1 of each 😘 Been listening to a lot of the VSL lately and I really like them too. I love the grid there is in the VSL and Dorico Libraries. Dorico especially sound absolutely right in your face, the BBCSO is so soft laid back beautiful like a romantic movie and East West is WoW .. what an update they got. Absolutely Epic big sounds in between the BBCSO and VSL. Right now I would probably go with East West. think they give a lot for the money at half the price of Dorico which could use a bit of finishing touch at that price tag. Good entry Steinberg. It really shows potential, but with everything from Steinberg always comes at a premium price tag. Now I'm not a professional composer, but I really want to get a library that does a little of everything, both some patches for fast laying down the basics but also have the solo instruments with some decent legatos

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety

      I totally agree with you. I don't think there's a definite ultimate library. Depending on your needs, it could be that you might lean more towards one of them but the other ones will definitely have something amazing to offer!

  • @worshipstudiojd
    @worshipstudiojd Před rokem

    I know what you did Dom, in a galaxy far far away, I know what you did 😂😂😂 this presentation was breath taking 🔥

  • @jcatrillo
    @jcatrillo Před rokem

    Gracias, abres un abanico de posibilidades. Saludos desde México!!!

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate Před 2 lety +3

    Yes...layering has always been a best kept secret. Not so much on pianos though. Lol.

  • @DrProgNerd
    @DrProgNerd Před rokem

    All around ....I gotta go Hollywood. Wasn't in love with the harp sound on it - but everything else was great. Excellent playthrough. Beautiful playing.

  • @wayneallenjones
    @wayneallenjones Před rokem

    Excellent video, very informative. May I ask which controller you are using? It resembles one of the Komplete Control keyboards, but I don't recall those having sliders above the pitch wheel and mod wheel.

  • @MarkusLeander
    @MarkusLeander Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, Dom! First of all, can you tell me where I can get that cool t-shirt?
    To my ears, the clear winner is Hollywood Orchestra; at least for strings an brass. I would love you to include Orchestral Tools and Cinematic Studio Series in your next videos. I think that the flagship orchestral libraries from those two companies, together with Eastwest are in a complete different level. Keep it up!

  • @liamgovan2905
    @liamgovan2905 Před 11 měsíci

    That thing you use on your keyboard makes the sound of the strings sound realistic. I wish I could get other composers to use it.

  • @Guttalaser
    @Guttalaser Před 2 lety +1

    Great video as always Man. Can you name those little "addo-on" controllers on the N.I. keyboard you use for expression?

  • @composingtips
    @composingtips Před 2 lety +8

    Even though I have a bazillion libs, I still use Iconica quite a bit. Unfortunately, there's a bug in the basses: they don't answer to CC11.

  • @user-zs8yl3uf6w
    @user-zs8yl3uf6w Před 2 lety

    Thanks for such a detailed review! And with what volume wooden instruments and glockenspiel does VSL have? The whole package is very expensive, unfortunately, but I would buy wooden and glockenspiel

  • @Ahmad-Mounir44
    @Ahmad-Mounir44 Před 2 lety +2

    Opus sound is jaw-dropping and it's on 60% off discount now. The only drawback is its freaking big size. Don't know what to do lol. Great vid bro :)

    • @Batzz01
      @Batzz01 Před 2 lety +1

      Just took advantage of that 60% off, couldn’t resist lol. Ordered an external source of 1 TB storage for the beefiness

  • @revup67
    @revup67 Před 2 lety

    Dom - this was rather interesting. You've illustrated many good points. However, after watching this, I'd like to add to the ambivalence in user decision making, be sure and check out the 4 Cremora string instruments by NI and Native Instruments collection of Pro Session strings, you may be pleasantly surprised. By comparison, I thought the Hollywood Strings was disappointing in comparison.

  • @snarf1504
    @snarf1504 Před 2 lety +5

    BBC SO 'sounds' the best because of the large hall, but has the fewest dynamic layers (especially noticeable on the brass), is inconsistently programmed, and has the obvious legato sucking effect when writing at faster tempo's.
    VSL has always sounded sterile and lifeless to me. Also, dry recordings + reverb never sounds the same as actual hall recordings. The woodwinds are decent, though.
    Steinberg is similar except not as dry as a bone. Never paid much attention to this library.
    Hollywood Orchestra is probably my favourite of these, especially since the OPUS update. It's still one of the most deep sampled libraries (some patches have 5 dynamic layers + vibrato layers + 3 types of legato depending on velocity/speed, some short patches have 14 round robins, lol) with a great dynamic and expressive range. Fairly dry, but with enough impression of a room. The strings, brass & perc are still very good, the woodwinds are a bit more mixed (although they sounded fine in these examples).

  • @markusleb
    @markusleb Před 2 lety +2

    Nice comparison, well done! But did you by any chance mix up the English Horn and the Oboe on Iconica? Screen video seems to indicate so.

  • @celthyan-music1118
    @celthyan-music1118 Před 2 lety

    Hey Dom! I love all your videos! Could you tell me what hardware you are using as a modwheel on your left hand? (the green, red and blue sliders) I'm looking for something similar instead of having to buy a new midi keyboard. Thanks and keep up the good content, cheers!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety

      Thank you! This is the controller I use : czcams.com/video/v1A0raV_Xcw/video.html

  • @brianthomasmusic
    @brianthomasmusic Před 2 lety

    Dom, brilliant video as always -- thank you! Can you tell me how you mapped the EW strings expression CC to your mod wheel? Whenever I use EW the mod wheel only controls vibrato (on most string sounds), and CC-11 controls expression. I don't have a CC-11 on my Launchkey-37. Any suggestions?

  • @AndreChasseur
    @AndreChasseur Před 2 lety

    Seriously good review Dom. Obviously hard to mimic feel of real instruments through a keyboard, but these all came very close. Wasn't too impressed with BBC until the cellos, but the rest shone as a great rounded sound. The East West expression was sensational. Oboes very difficult to reproduce as any player is constantly adapting the reed. Thanks, you've given me lots to think about. Would welcome your opinion on the best Soul/Motown brass section achievable.

  • @therainmaka6455
    @therainmaka6455 Před rokem

    Dope ✊

  • @greedokenobi3855
    @greedokenobi3855 Před 2 lety

    11:24 Yes! Please let us have this for all orchestral libraries!

  • @plamentsvetanov
    @plamentsvetanov Před 2 lety +2

    I'm a film composer and I use Logic. However, I'd love to have key expressions. Preferably as a VST it AU plugin.

  • @kevinstefano8654
    @kevinstefano8654 Před 2 lety

    Hey Dom, great video!! I’d like to know what modular faders etc you are using. I’m in the market and didn’t see it listed amongst your gear. Thanks so much!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve made a video about it :) czcams.com/video/v1A0raV_Xcw/video.html

  • @Sashman077
    @Sashman077 Před 2 lety

    Very well done. Best approach to compare libraries. Just wish you compared more, such as Nucleus and Cinematic. Maybe a separate video?

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety

      Thank you! I haven’t played Nucleus yet - sounds like a great library! Which one is the second one you mentioned ? :)

    • @phoenixrising4995
      @phoenixrising4995 Před rokem

      Cinematic Studio is great.