The Best Legacy Decks Without Dual Lands | Death & Taxes vs 8-Cast

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  • čas přidán 16. 02. 2022
  • Jamin & ‪@PleasantKenobi‬ face off this week with the two best Legacy decks without expensive Dual Lands to find which is the best way to win in legacy with a Tier One deck without mortgaging your house for a mana base.
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Komentáře • 97

  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Před 2 lety +8

    💰🤖 Decklists: bit.ly/3oROTvi

  • @TheMathmath123
    @TheMathmath123 Před 2 lety +68

    Vince not being the one playing dnt? Damnn that suprised me lol

  • @MikeGeney
    @MikeGeney Před 2 lety +43

    Everything about this is gold. the gameplay, the players, Vince's amazing throwback 40K art shirt. Perfection.

  • @Alessandro-vv2fh
    @Alessandro-vv2fh Před 2 lety +16

    Happy to see Vince again!
    About suggested decks, the most interesting reformed decks for Pioneer after the first wave of Kamigawa cards seem to be Esper Vehicles (a completely new one with the legendary rat guy and Parhelion II) and both a reformed Azorious Ensoul deck (with the Lanter of the Lost as a meta-call against phoenix and Michiko's saga) and Rakdos Sacrifice with Oni-Cult Envil. I'll consider running more mainboard artifact hate in the coming weeks, things seem to go for an artifact-y meta for a bit.
    Pick your favorite and run with it!

  • @FPRobber
    @FPRobber Před 2 lety +9

    I haven't watched any of your gameplay videos yet, but that was so well edited. Especially with the hands always being displayed. It puts most paper magic gameplay on YT to shame.

  • @WingofTech
    @WingofTech Před 2 lety +12

    Wow this is a wonderful frame format to show us how the match is going. Nicely done!!

  • @bjornlohmander7431
    @bjornlohmander7431 Před 2 lety +19

    I'll be the one in the comment section that asks why @PleasantKenobi did't just counter the Solitude at 13:50 and win? 🤣 Great game and I love to see more Legacy here!

    • @Voidoath
      @Voidoath Před 2 lety +5

      Was just about to head into the comment section to ask as well. I guess part of it is that we have perfect knowledge but personally I play for a more "make them have it" playstyle when you have as a developed board as Kenobi had

    • @bjornlohmander7431
      @bjornlohmander7431 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Voidoath I think it was just a miss from his side. With only one plains in play the only card Jamin possible could interact with is a sword -but that would obviously be his first choice of removal (also chalice on 1) so there're no excuses not to force at that point. 😅

  • @Th3Felucius
    @Th3Felucius Před 2 lety

    Really appretiate the production quality :)

  • @travisc2127
    @travisc2127 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the content guys. Love seeing 60 card formats played

  • @filiproken
    @filiproken Před 2 lety +9

    Really fun, just got into pioneer. Would love to see a mono green deck, either stompy or devotion

  • @chicograna7797
    @chicograna7797 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice, legacy on cardmarket!!

  • @alexandersepa3037
    @alexandersepa3037 Před 2 lety +3

    the mulligan to six from the D&T player game one only showed 5 cards on screen.

  • @asiamsowiltthoube4081
    @asiamsowiltthoube4081 Před 2 lety

    I haven't seen a dab in a long long time. Beautiful.

  • @WitherFang
    @WitherFang Před 2 lety +2

    Gotta admire Vince's beard. Of course it's not as magnificent as Seth's but still quite spectacular!

  • @andrewpowers3730
    @andrewpowers3730 Před 2 lety

    Would love to see you play Titan Creativity! It’s indomitable creativity with Primeval Titan as the payoff

  • @schrottinator
    @schrottinator Před 2 lety +1

    Is it okay to post links to sites like Archidekt and Moxfield for suggested decklists?

  • @AcedSama
    @AcedSama Před 2 lety +3

    Vinceeeeeee bringing finally legacy to CM

  • @shardfire4469
    @shardfire4469 Před rokem

    Love seeing Vince in other videos.

  • @anthonybrainwood8015
    @anthonybrainwood8015 Před 2 lety +1

    Also Vince: I want to hit Urza with my car 🤣

  • @Lukas-qt3os
    @Lukas-qt3os Před 2 lety +2

    Why did pleasentkenobi not forced the solitude in game 1?

  • @oxy6082
    @oxy6082 Před 2 lety

    Around 26:10 the guy who has Death and Taxes floats mana after his draw step to cast Recruiter of the guards. Does after draw step mean beginning of main phase, or is a player still in their upkeep?

    • @MrMullen2001
      @MrMullen2001 Před 2 lety

      Untap, upkeep, draw, main. So yeah if you tap saga in response to its trigger you can use that mana in your precombat Main phase.

  • @durge12
    @durge12 Před 2 lety

    good quality video right there

  • @rotyboty7046
    @rotyboty7046 Před 2 lety

    So happy to see him after I asked

  • @cameronschindler7036
    @cameronschindler7036 Před 2 lety +2

    1st game why didn’t Vince just FoW the solitude?

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob2275 Před 2 lety

    How do I order from card market if I’m in the USA?

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před 2 lety

      Registration on Cardmarket is limited to the available countries. If you cannot find your country in the list, you cannot open a user account.
      If you would like to buy on Cardmarket from a country that is not supported, you may do so via a buying agent (i.e. a friend that lives in Europe and can buy for you), or using a mail forwarding service like for example: Mailboxde.com or myGermany.com.
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  • @le314u
    @le314u Před 2 lety

    14:33 why not chalice ?

  • @socalacura1338
    @socalacura1338 Před rokem +2

    Funny thing: since putting Yorion into your hand for 3 is a special action, you literally cannot respond to it once it is announced :p

  • @badatmagic5042
    @badatmagic5042 Před 2 lety

    Modern fun deck: jund fattys
    A janky deck created by me to barf out fattys over and over, blisterpod makes actually casting all the fattys a little bit easier (sac the blister to groff, the token can be sac’d on the opponent’s turn to cast wanderer, the token can make mana for myr). Dryad arbor is for tutoring to sac to groff or as a creature based mana for superion. Kari zev+ groff gives you a way to kill off a pesky creature that doesint wanna die. The rest of the deck is pretty self explanatory
    Open to suggestions.
    Lands (21)
    3 Overgrown Tomb
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    2 Blood Crypt
    1 Forest
    2 Swamp
    2 Mountain
    2 Stomping Ground
    3 Bloodstained Mire
    1 Yavimaya, Crade of Growth
    1 dryad arbor
    Artifacts (4)
    4 Aether Vial
    Instants (7)
    4 Lightning bolt
    3 Collected Company
    Sorceries (6)
    2 Kari Zev's Expertise
    4 Claim // Fame
    Creatures (22)
    4 Blisterpod
    3 Dark Confidant
    4 Ignoble Hierarch
    4 Bayou Groff
    4 grim Wanderer
    3 Myr superion
    Sideboard:
    Lurras of the dream den

  • @crovaxtube
    @crovaxtube Před 2 lety +1

    Try bring kappa cannoneer on 8 cast.

  • @aeddonlukens2442
    @aeddonlukens2442 Před rokem +1

    Shouldnt grafdiggers cage have shut down the last ability on saga that grabbed shadow spear?

    • @OtherSideLLC
      @OtherSideLLC Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry to respond to an old comment but Urza's saga doesn't cast the artifact it puts it on to the battlefield, like aether vial.

    • @aeddonlukens2442
      @aeddonlukens2442 Před 4 měsíci

      @@OtherSideLLC saga puts it from the library onto the battlefield, which graf diggers shuts down

  • @gruscate7
    @gruscate7 Před 2 lety

    8-Cast has a Grafdigger's Cage in Side... but you can't use Emry ability if Cage is on the battlefield.
    So what decks is Cage against?

  • @alexandersepa3037
    @alexandersepa3037 Před 2 lety

    @1:45 there is an audio overlap

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 2 lety

    Surprised that PK wasn't playing D&T, but it didn't really knock him off his game at all.

  • @albertrossodivita6635
    @albertrossodivita6635 Před 2 lety +1

    This is kinda interesting that PK isn’t the one playing D&T 🤔

  • @marc-antoineboudreau2317

    Man vince is so funny

  • @hoodwink325
    @hoodwink325 Před 2 lety +43

    Modern with Jamin and Carl please. Time to get back to it. Love the content, but those are the best videos on this channel. With that said, I do enjoy Kenobi. Good guy.

  • @eduardonavarro525
    @eduardonavarro525 Před 2 lety

    We need recruiter of the guard in modern

  • @kuolonviikate
    @kuolonviikate Před 2 lety

    So no duals stip.. What about about r g lands? But no taigas..

  • @VzDeath
    @VzDeath Před 11 měsíci

    Jamin forgot to play a land for turn three at 24:20

  • @qwteb
    @qwteb Před 2 lety

    that yorion turn kinda sus, you know there's gotta be constructs after that turn

  • @Jeff13mer
    @Jeff13mer Před 2 lety

    Modern slivers! Let's goooo!!! (Pre-play it otherwise you'll be lost)

  • @christophergaultier5725

    Wrong Karn on screen at 19:37 😅

  • @ccaaarrlll2609
    @ccaaarrlll2609 Před 2 lety

    I don't see high tide being played or goblins huh...

  • @owithalineybutitsupsidedow923

    There’s an error in this. After the first mull for jamin in game one, he draws 6 cards then puts 1 to the bottom, starting him with 5 cards after 1 mull instead of 6

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      I make these on a pretty big tike crunch 😅 I'm sorry for the little overlay mistakes here and there

  • @alexandersepa3037
    @alexandersepa3037 Před 2 lety +3

    Bruh, Why did vince not just force of will the evoked solitude for to win at 13:54 smh

  • @yeeticusmaximus326
    @yeeticusmaximus326 Před rokem

    Great games but urzas bauble doesn’t reveal the card to everyone, just kenobi should know which card it is

  • @ThePhantomphan11
    @ThePhantomphan11 Před 11 měsíci

    Game one why not Force the
    Solitude? Thats game right?

  • @WingofTech
    @WingofTech Před 2 lety

    I wish I could order cards in the U.S. from Europe. :[

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 Před rokem

    8-cast vs 8-plow

  • @michaelmcdonough446
    @michaelmcdonough446 Před 2 měsíci

    No legacy burn? Its the cheapest burn deck around and is very consistent in legacy

  • @HZAres
    @HZAres Před 2 lety +1

    Hummmm don't know what irks me more keeping batterskull in opening hand, or keeping a do nothing hand in a 8 cast deck...

  • @WilhelmScreamer
    @WilhelmScreamer Před 2 lety

    Feedback: actually use the colorless symbol in the editing

  • @Aaackermann
    @Aaackermann Před rokem +2

    Why did he mulligan down to 5?
    Seems like a mistake, right?

    • @creeddennis3590
      @creeddennis3590 Před rokem

      Idk maybe legacy has different mulli rules. Tripped me out though

  • @marcellojacopobiffi9954

    UR wizard faeries in modern?
    Creature (16)
    2x Brazen Borrower
    4x Faerie Seer
    2x Mistbind Clique
    2x Snapcaster Mage
    4x Spellstutter Sprite
    2x Vendilion Clique
    Instant (16)
    2x Archmage's Charm
    4x Counterspell
    2x Fire / Ice
    4x Lightning Bolt
    4x Wizard's Lightning
    Land (22)
    7x Island
    1x Mountain
    2x Mutavault
    4x Scalding tarn
    4x Spirebluff Canal
    4x Steam Vents
    Sorcery (6)
    2x Expressive Iteration
    4x Serum Visions
    Sideboard (15)
    2x Abrade
    2x Aether Gust
    1x Anger of the Gods
    1x Echoing Truth
    1x Hurkyl's Recall
    2x Mystical Dispute
    2x Ratchet Bomb
    3x Soul-Guide Lantern
    1x Spell Pierce

  • @MrMcPezza
    @MrMcPezza Před 2 lety +2

    Why did the DnT player only have 5 cards in hand in game 1 even though he only mulliganed once?

    • @jdazzani
      @jdazzani Před 2 lety +3

      yeah he only drew 6 from him mull, when he should have drawn the full 7. he mixed olfd and new rules in a way that was the worst possible for him

    • @MrMcPezza
      @MrMcPezza Před 2 lety +1

      @@jdazzani Haha exactly

    • @gersonmoura3284
      @gersonmoura3284 Před 2 lety +2

      Wrong, you realize later that when vince cracks urza's bauble urza's saga was not registered on the side

  • @thomasa3394
    @thomasa3394 Před 2 lety

    Is it me or Vince miscalculated his constructs powers every time ?

    • @d_andrews
      @d_andrews Před 2 lety +1

      Seemed correct to me. Did you remember the +1/+1 from the spear?

  • @douglasbender7807
    @douglasbender7807 Před 2 lety +1

    Vince isn’t the one playing D&t what is this world

  • @alexandersepa3037
    @alexandersepa3037 Před 2 lety

    Bruh, D&T is Vinces deck

  • @Cudcudcudcudcuscuski
    @Cudcudcudcudcuscuski Před 9 měsíci

    Glad to see Vince on the channel but I’m ashamed to say he was kind of a dick at points in this matchup

  • @igleteli
    @igleteli Před 2 lety

    The audio is terrible!!!

  • @SickOfItAll1988
    @SickOfItAll1988 Před 8 měsíci

    When is Vince coming back? Did he swear to much? 😅

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  • @matteobagni1235
    @matteobagni1235 Před 2 lety

    Ban the saga so it gets cheaper for edh :)

  • @matiasc003
    @matiasc003 Před 2 lety

    And that's why urza's saga is a shit card

  • @Chivajd
    @Chivajd Před 2 lety +2

    It would be nice if you play Jund food with Karn and Bolas's Citadel for pioneer. Here is my list: www.moxfield.com/decks/Np_jv-fgzEOPsHZqXzUC4w
    4 Blightstep Pathway / Searstep Pathway
    4 Cauldron Familiar
    4 Cragcrown Pathway / Timbercrown Pathway
    4 Darkbore Pathway / Slitherbore Pathway
    4 Deadly Dispute
    2 Elvish Mystic
    2 Fabled Passage
    4 Fatal Push
    1 Forest
    4 Gilded Goose
    1 Hive of the Eye Tyrant
    3 Karn, the Great Creator
    4 Mayhem Devil
    1 Mountain
    2 Overgrown Tomb
    4 Prosperous Innkeeper
    2 Swamp
    4 Trail of Crumbs
    3 Witch's Oven
    3 Woe Strider
    SIDEBOARD:
    1 Bolas's Citadel
    3 Cindervines
    1 Damping Sphere
    1 Experimental Synthesizer
    1 Oni-Cult Anvil
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
    1 Soul-Guide Lantern
    3 Thoughtseize
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Witch's Oven
    Thanks for all the videos!