How the Honda Chimney Engine Works in 3D. 🧠
Vložit
- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In this video we analyze the rarest Honda engines of all. Was he a madman, or a genius?
#Honda #porwer #horsepower #turbo #4stroke #2stroke #3danimation #engine #motor #piston #combustion #race #vtec #chimney #repariman22 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The 3D models help a lot to visualise what's going on inside these engines.
An important development for Honda automotive engines was the CVCC engines or stratified charge engines. This allowed street cars to get excellent drivability with improved gas mileage and pass emissions tests. It worked so good that Honda thought that they would license it to other auto manufacturers. This worked absolutely great. I had a 1981 Honda Accord that had a CVCC engine. It was near perfect for it's time. Good gas mileage, excellent drivability and as reliable as a brick. Brilliant engineering.
Yea in the begging of emmisions control, these engines passed with no catalytic converters, an amazing feat!
I frigging love old Hondas.
Had a Accord (1987) with a million Miles on it.
I had never heard of the chimney engine thats an interesting design
When Honda revealed the GX series of industrial engines, it almost immediately replaced the old, inline style single cylinder engines in go-karts. It was more compact, ran smoother and fitting much better to the constraints of a go-kart. Basically anything "mini" was powered by a GX or its clone derivative. I dabbled in them for a couple of years, hopping up a clone from 6.5HP to 13 HP. Until the clone crankshaft broke and I threw away basically everything below the head. But the fun thing about these engines is: you can source pretty much any part for them. You dont have to waste money on a clone engine and have a box full of parts you wont use. All you need is a fresh block, side cover, a genuine honda crankshaft, high quality main bearings and the cylinder head. Everything else is pretty much aftermarket hop up kits. And the only investment I highly recommend for your build is a genuine honda crankshaft. Its much much stronger than any cheap clone one. Everything else is basically how much you are willing to spend...
bit like the pit bikes.
my first pit bike, ten minutes, wheels going all wonky. axle like a noodle.
shoved some honda axles in, i was taking that thing of 10ft jumps...
so then it was the swingarm shaft.
ditto. honda.
got an old side valve honda here i think is so old its simply a "G"... been a while since i looked.
The GX motors had really weak pressed tin rocker arms that 'folded' at the pivot.
I found main reason was that plant fitters using them on generators, pumps and other industrial equipment were trying to run old cast iron side valve type valve clearances (0.008" to 0.016") instead of almost zero valve clearance (I set them same as motorcycle valves, 0.002" to 0.003" as I had run motorcycle dealer workshops until I found industrial equipment paid far far better)
There were 32 non running GX engines at the place I worked, (UK Plant) when managing director visited I was introduced as 'The Honda Expert'
That 6 cyl 250cc sounds and goes like a beast. I'm pretty sure I was stiffed on my 1979 CB250T 2 cylinder.
I owned a 1971 Honda CB500-4 for several years. Not any sort of racing bike, redline was only (IIRC) 10,500, but in street trim with a cheap fairing it would still bust 90 mph and ran out of revolutions before it ran out of power. A longer front sprocket might have gotten the century. And when I rode it as a courier in downtown Seattle, I got 52 mpg day after day. I replaced it when the clutch started slipping and I couldn't afford to pay to get it fixed (I'm not motorcycle mechanic) -- but the CM400T I got wasn't at all the bike that four-banger had been.
One fun thing, my CB500-4 was stolen once -- parked in the street in front of my apartment, I got up one day and it was gone. Police found it a couple days later, five blocks away at the bottom of a hill (pushed into a blackberry thicket). The thief had tried to hotwire it by cutting all the wires to the ignition switch and twisting them all together. When I got to the impound yard, I untwisted the wires, replaced the blown main fuse, traced which wire went to ground, and left that one out of the bundle when I twisted the wires back. Two kicks and the bike started; I rode it for two more years with a toggle switch for the ignition (and by that time, I also had replaced the diode pack for the 3-phase alternator with a pair of full wave bridge rectifiers from Radio Shack).
If I ever get another bike, I hope I'll be able to find a Honda I can afford and enjoy...
Their variety in motorcycle engines is legend! From the multi-million mass mover C90 to flat-6 Goldwing they left almost nothing imaginable unbuilt. Kudos!
In 1998 Honda had a great idea of putting their integra derived drivetrain in a family wagon... 8400rpm rev limit, limited slip diff, 124kw NA in a 1200kg wagon... yeah, i still love mine after 5 years of owning one, proper sleeper material
Which car are you talking about now?
@@acvn-hg9gy civic aerodeck VTi, only sold in EU/UK, closest thing to it is either a Domani, or a mix of 5g/6g civic/integra GSR in a different body shape
Non-stop information, and great visuals and 3d animations. Awesome video, hope to see more like this - thanks!
Way too complicated. Too many moving parts. Go electric and simplify.
Much respect for Honda engineering.
The B16 ... so nostalgic about this ... I miss you EK9 ...
You actually understand the engines you make videos of, not just 'this part made this number and that one made that number' like some other youtube folks. And that's why I like your videos so much!
Very good explanation of Honda technology. My motorbike riding in a serious way began in 1966 as a 14 year old riding a honda 90. I always appreciated their quality and simplicity of repair and maintenance. Owned quite a few and cannot remember any issues with them.
I waited for the triple NS 2stroke engine and was dismayed to find it deleted.Almost the sweetest handling 2stroke raced. Magnificent in the wet racing too.
I fell in love with Honda engineering back in th 60's. Such an innovative company.
They lead the way in small engines for decades and are still the go to brand.
I think the secret of the 'big bang' firing order was that it was to do with the psychodynamics of riding a bike. With even power, the smooth power delivery would be more likely to produce a 'cliff edge' loss of grip so, it could lose grip with no warning which made it very difficult for the rider to back off the throttle in time as everything happened too quickly. With a lumpy 'big bang' firing order, the power comes in pulses and the rider gets warning of when the bike is beginning to slide so they can back off in time in stead of the bike letting go before they've had time to react. This means the rider can keep the bike closer to the edge of its grip capability and therefore use more of the power available.
that makes sense
Nah, I don't buy it. Riding along the knife edge of traction is difficult, but far from impossible. Modern tech does slap a bandaid on the issue, though.
nah sorry this makes no sense. The grip and the engine pulses are uncoupled. riders dont judge the edge of grip by the engine power pulses. that makes no sense. How many times the engine hits per tire revolution is different for every gear and gearing combination, and every tire size. Many parts of this video I take at face value, but this part smells like bull
@@jasonadams2264 it absolutely does make sense because of striction. The coefficient of friction between most materials is higher when stationary compared to when already sliding. That's why you can get a 'cliff edge' loss of grip. Applying power in pulses means you start to get lots of micro losses of grip which gives you an early warning you are right on the edge. This is what energies you to back off the power - It's a feedback loop. Furthermore that exact same technique is used by some shunting engineers to be able to apply maximum pulling power without spinning their wheels
Im still not buying it. Been riding and studying motorcycles for the vet 40 years, and I have just finished tony foales book „motorcycle handling and chassis design“ for the third time and not a single sentence implies engine firing order had fuck all to do with grip. If you can provide some actual scientific research for this, I am all ears. One cannot feel engine pulses through the back tire, they happen entirely too fast together to be physically aware of. Any idea how fast engine pulses happen at even 1000rpm? This doesn’t hold water.
Nothing beats Honda, with volumetric efficiency from there V-tec car engines period.
Mr Honda was a genius.
Australian Mick Doohan was one of the world Champion riders of the "Big Bang" bikes; and a gentleman as-well !.
I think Mick might have went back to the screamer after he came back from an injury, ,,, ?
God. The exhaust note of that Honda 250-6 gave me *Chills*. Pure Music
Great story on Mr. Honda, engines. he was a revolutionary engine designer and Builder with lots of success and very few failures
Mr Honda was a true Genius and an inspiration.
Honda designed some of the most revolutionary engines ever created.
Your uploads are super and your understanding of the principles gives you the "heart of a teacher" Thanks, Tom
I miss every vtec Honda and Acura and loved them 💚💜💙❤️💛 and very good video 👍👍
Please keep these videos coming, very informative
Haha I love the part where the competition used microphones etc to discover Honda's engine configuration
Not really into bikes, but that RC166 is something I would love to ride, the sound is just incredible.
I'm sorry to hear that you're not into bikes.
Not into bikes that’s quite the shame for u
The plane in the photo is not a zero plane, but a T-6 Texan pretending to be a zero.
Don't forget to leave your feedback!! 😎😎
My first Honda was a 1967 305cc Dream in 1968. It was an amazing bike with overhead cams, electric starter and completely oil tight. A revelation after my previous BSA B31 350cc.
The only problem was my friend wouldn’t ride with me as the pressed steel Dream was so ugly.
That bike is beautiful.
but it's beautiful lol., your friend must have had an epileptic seizure or crossed eyes or sumth for him not to want to ride with you riding that beauty.
That’s TOO funny but I can see it happening !
Seems like Honda has their fair share in manufacturing unusual yet unique engines. This is what they mean by "the power of dreams"
First impression Gen 3 Prelude. Loved to rev, felt smooth all the way to red line. Gen 5 Prelude, what a roar when the Vtec kicked in! Next will be 474CC bike.
4:08 that thing literally sounds like and F1 engine. Not as tuned, but damn, is it sound close.
Honda is definitely one of the best engine manufacturers out there.
This video deserves a more accurate title. Theres lots of cool 3D engines on display here! very well done
Great concise and informative video with wonderful graphics...
Keep up the good work... I wish all videos were like this... 👍😊
Thank you so much 😀
Love the avalanche of technical information. Keep it coming!❤
A young channel like this will skyrocket in subscribers. 🎉
The photo is not of a Mistubishi Zero , but of a North American T6 Texan painted to look as a Zero.....
That 6 pot engine noise is awesome .
The photo of the Mitsubishi Zero at 2:50 is another plane for a movie shoot.
The Honda we used to know and respect
Great Video! Informative.
really good vid!!
Interesting to see that they dabbled with Rotary engines too. Wish they didn't give up on it so quickly.
3:55 .. when I heard that sound.. we need to go back in time guys!
Great insights 🐱👍🏿
Please keep making these videos, I'm an engine enthusiast and I love them. if you could do a video on f1/racing engines and how there designed that would be cool, keep up the good work.
L pop pool 0
0pppppppppp0ppppppp0
I like how you inserted the roatating cad model into the photos
Seen an NR750 in a motorbike shop, 20-ish years ago. Oh God, that one was expensive. The leage of "ask the owner of this bike shop, if you dare". Riduculous. But shure was a unique bike.
This video is golden for me when i found it. I love to think about engines and technical engine stuff. Can you make one with other manufaktur
Next one will be Mercedes benz.
Great Video ❤
Honda Motors in are indistructable, i love honda motorcycles😊
Nice info and great graphics make this easy to follow, even for a non-gearhead like me. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@repairman22 The Rotax ETEC direct-injection, voice coil 2-stroke engine that Skidoo has been using to power their snowmobiles for more than a decade has very low oil consumption, lots of power, good fuel economy, quite low emissions (for a 2-stroke) & is virtually smoke-free. Welcome to the 21st Century!
Loved my vfr 400 took off like a rocket and would do 130+ great sound aswell
Thank you E. Honda. You're a real street fighter!
That RC166 sounds wild!
What a fantastic video …. Honda are so innovative .
Great video - I love Honda!!
Great! Thanks a lot!
I love Chimney mx bikes 😂
Essentially just a bigger bore (or huge engine with a short stroke). You don't need "oval" shape, unless you're trying to squeeze a V12 into a V8 space.
I rode a factory honda race bike. 37hp. Was actually 43horsepower! Pretty dang nice for a factory CR250R!!
the late `80s/early `90s crosser CR250R,...?
I've ridden an ex-Works Honda UK `91 bike a few times, an fun loving animal, the lightness of the bike whilst remaining trackable & agile to thought/control inputs made it feel like 50bhp, unofficially it was the fastest crosser at over 110mph too.
Soichiro Honda is the modern Edison
His dream is still passed on to all HONDA employees today.
Keep making dreams come true He is a true genius who has made great strides in motorization
Except Honda didn't steal anything
Yes it was a good trip .
Say the word Repairman . The VTEC kicks in .yayyyy!!!!!!!
Good explanation , NO normal aspirated engine can beat a TWO Stroke engine !! Diesel or self ignition engines 25-30 hp/ L , gasoline 4 stroke engines max 260 hp/ L and 2 stroke ( actually 2 at the same time = 4 str.) more then 400 hp/ L !!! Kreidler 50 cc and 21 hp in 1970 year .
It's too bad two-stroke emissions suck so badly, eliminating them from any real future development. The same thing happened to rotaries.
👍 Thanks!
Yes 2 stroke engines burn oil but our brand new cars burn a whole lot of oil
Right they make the rings so loose we might as well run 2 strokes
You guys are both wrong.
Only idiots who drive vehicles with direct injection and/or cylinder deactivation have those issues and it’s from not maintaining them on the DI side and Cylinder deactivation is almost always a bad idea. People buy cars based on looks and features instead of reliability. Toyota Direct Injection uses both port and direct injectors because they knew direct only would be terrible on intake valves and cylinder washing. People are buying garbage like Mitsubishis and Nissans because they look cool despite both companies being on the verge of collapse and making unreliable garbage.
@@_..-.._..-.._yeah even Mazda, a very reputable brands started using DI only and cylinder deactivation, I wanted to get one but that ruins it for me
I'm only buying Toyota
@@_..-.._..-.._no one buys Mitsubishi for looks😂 they're the ugliest car, people buy them cuz they're cheap
Fantastic Video. Wow!
Thank you very much!
"Honda V-Tech delivered 160 hp while others of the time hardly delivered 80!" -Nope! The non-V-Tec Honda 1.6 in the ED9 was a good average with its 124hp. The contemporary VW Golf GTI had 115hp, limited for the insurance classes in power in Germany back then. A 160hp engine back then cost the same in insurance as a 300hp Ferrari here.
Honda provided motorcycle drive chains protected by a case
which also serves as a safety guard. This is a great feature
useful to extend chain service life and extends the interval
between needed chain slack adjustment. Especially when
off road riding, the chain case prevents sand from quickly
destroying chains and sprockets, reducing maintenance.
If a motorcycle has a chain drive, a chain case is good to
have, and Honda shows having that wisdom. Do others?
In fact that's a detail where others lead the way. Others being CZ, Jawa, MZ... (the 2 stroke king). Pretty much all of the so called Eastern brands. Inclusive many Western brands.
Or in other words brands more concerned with durability than aesthetics. ;-)
@@crpth1 When you see motorcycle couriers in India
you see chain cases on many high use motorcycles,
usually see smaller displacement high fuel efficient
engines also. If the bikes didn't come stock with the
encased chains they would be an aftermarket part
everybody would put top of their list to add what
is missing.
my 1913 sunbeam 6hp has.
The 3D animations are out of this world. Gargantuan amount of information here.
Now, not to be nitpicking, but you saying that "central timing" is what is used nowadays sounds incorrect.
Maybe my english isn't good enough.
If you're talking about where the timing chain/gears are, those have been - on in-line 4 liquid cooled engine - located on the left side, not on the center, for many decades.
Since in-line 4 liquid cooled engine is by and large the most common internal combustion configuration, both for cars and bikes, it seems to me you're talking about air cooled engines from the 70's.
As for your mention about Yamaha's engine, I'll first need to check into the shop manual downstairs.
I remember the first time I rode a Honda DOHC 4 cyc in the 1970s. I was amazed how it just kept on winding past 6, 7, past 8 then past 10k RPMs. Amazing first experience for that. I think the red-line was 12k RPM.
बहुत ही सुन्दर चलत रेखाचित्रण।
Anyway the Big Bang engines was a milestone in racing and we have to give that to Honda.
RC166 had valves the size of a roofing nail.
Maybe that inspired oval loudspeakers.
Central Timing yes, but gears Rarely...only in the Honda V4s, some of those...
Make a video on TB48
It turned to 200200km at 12:20
could flat engine work with oval pistons being done in vertical position so that engine could be shorter and way more boxy shape? or boxer...
12 cyrinder F1 engine is not with 12 carburators but with 12 injection ports!
It's just Coupled-up V-8, that clamp same timing of pistons together (as twin). By chance, they got more working Area of pushing pistons and Lesser Valves complex, (8 sets of valves become 4 sets) also inlet/outlet ports/manifolds reduced. Only the CNC must work on extra-shape milling, looked like 4 elliptic cylinders, but not quite. (Also nearly elliptic, 4 pistons)
Nope
About the 250 hp per liter is not a problem with turbo today. Yamaha Apex with turbo has about 340 hp per iiter in their highest kit /like MCX/ the race engines are up over 500++ hp per liter or more.
ホンダの問題は、高回転でエンジンの特性が急変し、コーナーで車の制御ができずに追突してしまうというのが、社会問題となった。
過給エンジンは、だいたいどこで踏んでも同じ様に瞬時に立ち上がるが、NA はそうは行かない。
低回転時は、アクセルにほとんど応答しないので、アクセルを開け気味になる。
運転しているとこの領域が99%なので、コーナーで高回転を使うといきなり立ち上がる。
バイクだけでなく四輪でも死亡事故率が高かった VTEC 問題があり、安全を優先するユーザーは過給を買っていた。
実際にアクセルあけてからの反応は、過給の方が圧倒的に良く常に一定の反応を楽しめるのに対し、VTEC は常にかったるさを我慢しなければならなかった。また事故が多い。
これではね。
いくら出力が出ても、ダメなんだよ。
If you can imaginge it, Honda can build it
3:37 most high preformance motorcycle engines dont now due to better material tech used for camshafts. a side driven setup needs less bearings for the camshafts resulting in less friction and other small advantages. but in fairness it wasnt untill the late 90s that the change happened and there are still plenty of engines that use a center drive cams still in use today (mostly decended from older engines)
Edit: just to add really enjoyed the video :)
4:52 rotary engine 125cc for one chamber, but there are 3 chambers...
So 375cc for 13.5 ch.
Imagine that a 50ccm engine like in a Scooter provides 16 hp (12kw) at 21500 rpm that's 360 rotations each second. 😈
Thats a power ratio of 320 hp per liter.
Even with today's turbos and with downsizing this is nearly impossible. 4:10
Honda the best, mass production engine manufacturer in the world.
This I referred to was candle heating garbage
Large multi cylinder motorcycles of today employ a camshaft drive from the end of the crankshaft, saving a bearing surface in the center of the crankshaft.
Also the NSR750 wouldn’t reach speeds of 200 mph
True
Honda are number 1
I started in a Honda/Yamaha dealers in 1978, first time I've ever heard of the Honda Wankel motor
Is is just me or do I see always these combining numbers: at 12:23 you can see 200200km driven with a trip of 2000 km xD
About GP500 cc, Yamaha had twice the wins from 1975 - 1995. If we take the span to 2000 they where even. So I doubt that the Honda Race Engines was outstanding. I know that much of the wins are depending on the driver but you must have a good motorcycle too.
PS,Youve also passed over the 5cylinder 125cc.
I think i got unsubscribed, or i thought i already subscribed on the 1st video i saw.
❤ honda